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El Guapo
11-19-2003, 04:40 PM
Hey K1M-- Got your e-mail--How ya doin'? Question: any new bodies for the burps in your arsenal? Got a body (mudbus) from chris, but would like to put it on another burp when the money comes to buy another chassis.

Sugar Daddy
11-23-2003, 06:09 PM
Hey Kim, I tore the motor out of the burp and checked it without the axel touching and found out something. If I go from 0-100% throttle slow, the motor won't go full speed. But if I punch it, it will. :confused: I cleaned the motor, and reset the esc and it still does it. Any ideas?

Sugar Daddy
11-23-2003, 06:24 PM
I think I found it. It might be my speed control. It doesn't have a problem going full speed in reverse, so I reveresed the radio so that the motor goes backward when I pull the trigger and forward when I push it. And the problem reversed. When I go full reverse, the motor spins up to full speed in the right direction with no problems, but when I go forward, the bog apears. Do you see what I'm saying? It's like the esc doesn't want to go full speed forward unless I pull the trigger fast when trying to go forward, but doesn't have a problem when trying to go backward. Hope that makes sense!

k1m
11-23-2003, 07:45 PM
Sure was good to get back into racing and see everyone again! There were nine BuRPs to start out the season. Four bugs, 2 mudbuses, 2 trucks and a Vette....What a sight! The track has changed alittle, and we're all alittle rusty, but I'm sure there's a great season of racing to look forward to this year. One of our newest driver's Shawn AKA as Sugar Daddy made an impressive first run with his new Fun Won truck and I'm pretty sure the BRP "bug" has bitten him. I think Ovalman will post the official results, but I'm sure the 30 lap club will have a whole new list of members this year, once we get going.
The open oval class was pretty cool too. I think there were 2 mod entries and 4 stock and although the pace was down from last year ( about 5 laps) I look forward to some hot competition as everyone works out all the bugs (pun intended).
My big block is D.O.A. I guess as one of the terminals broke right off where the wire solders on. Damn shame! That motor really ripped! I'll probably order some more soon. Maybe I'll try one of Intelligentsia's 300's before the year is out. Those little cars are rockets with mod motors in them! Wheeeeee!

k1m
11-23-2003, 07:53 PM
Why DO they call him "Sugar Daddy"?

WARBIRD
11-23-2003, 08:46 PM
I recognize the purple/white bug, hope she didn't whip on you guys to bad.

Canbquik, are both of the mud bus bodies the same size, in the line-up the black one appears larger, or is this just an optical illusion. Hope to race with you guys in January sometime.

Andy

OvalmanPA
11-23-2003, 09:42 PM
Last lap pass on canbquik as he bicycled through the corner and I never looked back...........much. :D


-- Open BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 2 58 5:03.37 Kim Fortner 10 12.77
2 4 53 5:08.85 Chris Burrows 30 11.46
3 6 46 5:06.56 Laura Burrows S 16 10.02
4 5 23 5:04.61 Autumn Harris S 31 5.04
5 7 13 1:32.85 Johna Simar S 19 9.35
6 3 11 1:16.24 Joy Fortner S 11 9.63

-- Fun BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 5 28 5:07.97 Rick Morgan 28 8.05
2 4 28 5:08.61 Chris Burrows 14 8.04
3 3 27 5:04.78 Joy Fortner 12 7.85
4 6 24 4:26.63 Shaun Powell 7 7.97
5 9 23 5:02.17 Laura Burrows 15 6.74
6 7 22 5:01.03 Johna Simar 20 6.47
7 8 13 2:49.32 Don Weimer 23 6.80
8 2 11 5:18.41 Ariel Campbell 5 3.06
-- 0 --- DNS --- Barb Morgan 29 0.00

canbquik
11-23-2003, 11:17 PM
Andy, two different designs, the black one is a funwons and the blue one is my sc18 pro. The sc18 is narrower, other than that pretty close to the same. Look forward to seeing you guys, Chris :wave:

EvaderAndy
11-24-2003, 07:58 AM
as of last night all three brp's are up and runing but only two will be out this week

Hey K1m have you ever heard of having to dremle the front arms on the brp to let the front wheels turn full lock and have the wheels actually spin without hiting?

k1m
11-24-2003, 06:20 PM
S.D.- Sure sounds like it might be ESC trouble, I think you're on the right track. Do this...put a voltmeter on the motor leads and see if you're getting full voltage when the motor runs slow, but full throttle. If you get same voltage on motor as battery, but motor runs slow, it's a motor problem. If you don't get almost as many volts as you get when motor runs fast, them it could be ESC problem. If you don't have a voltmeter, I'll check it out for you next sunday. I can lend you an extra ESC if that's the case.

Andy- I have seen the Fun Won wheels rub on the front beam. Usually BuRPs don't need that much steering anyway, so if your radio has ATV adjustments you can just dial out some of the servo throw. (movement) If your radio doesn't have ATV or D/R adjustments, you'll need to mount your steering rod closer to the center of the servo saver. Usually there are several holes on a servo saver to pick from and the further from the center you go, the more steering you get. You can dremel the front beam to keep them from rubbing if you want, but you don't really need front wheels that turn like a shopping cart. :lol: Glad to hear you guys are getting your BuRPs ready to run again. Did the ESC you got at the swap meet work OK?

EvaderAndy
11-24-2003, 06:48 PM
ya K1m the esc did work just not reverse but he said he wasn't sure if reverse work anyway. I'm not sure to run oval brp or road course brp any sugestions? thanks for the tips

Sugar Daddy
11-24-2003, 07:55 PM
Well, it was a shot esc. I don't have a voltmeter to check it. I went out and got another one and it runs good. I called Futaba about it and they won't warrenty it because I took the stock connectors off. :mad:

Sugar Daddy
11-24-2003, 09:25 PM
Hey Kim, I saw that you were selling used burp packs at the meet. You wouldn't have one left would you? If you do, how much? I want one for practice that way I have one for practice and the others for heats and main.

OvalmanPA
11-24-2003, 09:36 PM
Since we have not yet started points I'm tweaking the rules a bit for Open BuRP. Since it was clearly pointed out to me that since the class is technically separated into stock and modified and that the winner in each class should receive a Racer Buck, I am making a change. Only the stock winner will be required to go through tech like all the other stock classes (excluding Pro stock truck). Might as well keep it a stock "theme" I guess. Not a big change but it will save us time also. Just an FYI.

BudBartos
11-25-2003, 10:24 AM
Looks like You had a good first race! We will be gettin out that way soon.

OvalmanPA
11-25-2003, 01:26 PM
I ment to post last night that I'm also going to be moving the classes around so Open BuRP and Fun BuRP don't run back to back like this week. Sorry about that guys. I never stopped to think about that when I was setting up the running order Saturday night. Open BuRP will probably either run right after Production or Stock truck from now on.

Sugar Daddy
11-27-2003, 08:12 PM
I worked on the burp a little today... I now have a secret weapon! :devil: You guys will just have to see it wait! :lol:

LLB
11-27-2003, 08:53 PM
I must say that it was a typical first day of racing with all the possible problems... loose diff, rolling in the corners, and batteries coming un-connected... BUT, I still had a blast!

Shawn... aka Sugar Daddy... Nice run and NICE hat! I promise that I knew all about it... he he he. :devil:

Joy... Girl Power!

Am rusty in that new road course and there was a lot of good competition!!!

Hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving!

Am sooo looking forward to this weekend! See you all on Sunday :wave:

Sugar Daddy
11-27-2003, 08:57 PM
Nice run and NICE hat!

Thank you! And thank you Joy and Kim again for the hat! :thumbsup:

canbquik
11-30-2003, 10:07 PM
another great day of foammy rubbin' :D Ran oval twice today, cause there was no need for the road course, that put alot of people out to pasture on the gearing end of it :cry: But all in all it was still an exciting day, a little embarassed that K1M smoked me in open BRP with a STOCK MOTOR but there is always next week...... :devil:

Sugar Daddy
11-30-2003, 10:12 PM
I didn't win today either, but I sure did have some fun! Even my co-driver enjoyed it! He still wants to do some driving! See ----->http://members.aol.com/crsvwdesigns/rc/drv.gif

Joy
12-01-2003, 08:20 AM
SugarDaddy: Just have to know who to watch out for. (LLB, Carpetburner, Me) We ladies won't hurt you to bad. Also, A+ on your web page. It's looking good. See ya next week in Stock Oval.

RAFster
12-01-2003, 02:06 PM
SugarDaddy,

I'll second Joy's comments. Nice web page SugarDaddy!
Good Pictures as well, nice clear, sharp.

Sugar Daddy
12-01-2003, 03:46 PM
Thank you for the coments about my web site Joy and RAFster. I get bored and need something to do so I sit down and do some work. It's a lot of typing to do that page!

And about the pics, I am suprised that they look good. That camera that I am using is about 3 years old. It's a Kodak, and it's only a 1 megapixel camera. I think it's time to upgrade.

OvalmanPA
12-01-2003, 07:03 PM
New track record in Open BuRP (modified) this week as Canbquik takes over the top spot from K1M. Record is now 61/5:00.53 Points to start next week.


Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - NOVEMBER 30, 2003

-- Open BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 8 57 5:01.03 Kim Fortner 24 12.65
2 3 57 5:03.59 Chris Burrows 8 12.54
3 7 51 5:05.27 Johna Simar s 11 11.16
4 0 49 5:00.53 Joy Fortner S 26 10.89
5 2 49 5:05.06 Laura Burrows s 5 10.73

-- Fun BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 8 60 5:00.79 Kim Fortner 23 13.32
2 5 57 5:02.28 Rick Morgan 2 12.59
3 2 55 5:01.59 Shaun Powell 9 12.18
4 3 55 5:06.64 Andy Eaton 16 11.98
5 4 49 5:10.41 Laura Burrows 4 10.54

-- Fun BuRP - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 3 51 5:01.82 Chris Burrows 7 11.29
2 0 48 5:01.36 Joy Fortner 25 10.64
3 4 45 5:05.13 Mike Button 22 9.85
4 7 37 5:07.15 Barb Morgan 3 8.04
5 2 28 5:15.24 Ray Eaton 17 5.93

EvaderAndy
12-01-2003, 09:42 PM
got to admit shawn nice pic's of the competition. Your going to have to get some pic's of my rally car after I get it :D

LLB
12-01-2003, 09:42 PM
Sugar Daddy... Your web page is very neat. I haven't figured out how to do all that neat stuff yet! And. I want to apologize for holding your car so that Joy could get by... I hope you know that it was just done in fun. Am eager to see how your speedy truck does in stock oval...

Had the mechanic do a little fine tuning and hopefully I willbquik in the stock oval myself!!!

See you guys at the races! :thumbsup:

k1m
12-01-2003, 09:46 PM
This weeks racing gave everyone a taste of the oval and I think most liked it but there's no substitute for all the action we get on the road course. CanBquick is right too, being geared for the tight road course makes for pretty conservative laps on the oval. Those little motors sure like to rev though, huh?

My mod BRP wasn't quite the same without the big block, but surprisingly fast if I could hold a good line. And that wasn't too easy considering the fact that I think my servo isn't centering right. I'll try another one next week and see, and I hope to be running a mod motor again. I got lucky in the main and won with only 57 laps because I drove canbquick's car and IT IS FAST! He's just gotta get it handling alittle better so he can open it up more. He may have the record for now, but like he said...."there's always next week"! :lol:

Sugar Daddy
12-01-2003, 10:10 PM
That's ok LLB! I know it's all for fun! :tongue: When you run stock oval... please take it easy on me!!! :jest:
Andy... bring that car next time and I'll get a shot of it!

EvaderAndy
12-01-2003, 10:30 PM
Andy... bring that car next time and I'll get a shot of it!

sounds good but it'll be a couple weeks before I get it

EvaderAndy
12-01-2003, 10:32 PM
Andy... bring that car next time and I'll get a shot of it!

sounds good but it'll be a couple weeks before I get It :thumbsup:

canbquik
12-02-2003, 07:24 PM
Got to see the new mini T today. :) Can't say that I'll be getting one anytime soon. The springs on the truck are so light that they could barely support it, and bounced awful bad when drove. I did get to take it for a spin around the shop, but the steering was very choppy, not really smooth and proportional. Just one guys opinion, but looks like they could do a little more R&D on the truck.

k1m
12-02-2003, 09:52 PM
canbquick: The mighty Losi has that all taken care of......it's called aftermarket hop-ups. :jest:

sugar daddy: I like the looks of your wheelman.
http://members.aol.com/crsvwdesigns/rc/drv.gif

RAFster
12-03-2003, 01:06 AM
What? They stole HPI's design philosophy? Are you telling me that Losi designed a Mini T in the same formula after the HPI Micro? You want a race durable, well scratch that, raceable, uh, what do you call a $500 to $1000 car or truck that started out around $100-150?
So, how much will you have to spend on aftermarket hop-ups for the Mini T?
Sorry. couldn't resist the parallel that came to mind.

canbquik
12-05-2003, 09:49 PM
well boys and girls, points start this week and did you all do your homework for the pop quiz on Sunday? I know I have something very interesting for show and tell, what's black on black and will allow you to fly through the corners? I'll show ya Sunday......... :devil: :devil:

Sugar Daddy
12-05-2003, 11:05 PM
what's black on black and will allow you to fly through the corners? I'll show ya Sunday......... :devil: :devil:
The Batmobile??? This should be interesting to see! :lol:

k1m
12-05-2003, 11:13 PM
I haven't done any homework yet this week, but that's what they make Saturdays for! I'm going to try another servo and hopefully the big block will last a few more runs.
Black on black?.....you been playin with your polycarbonate again, boy?
You're gonna go blind! :dude:

Donalbain
12-06-2003, 03:58 PM
I'm guessin' he's got exotic compound tires. Blind? He's already wearing glasses!! :dude: Got the ECM body mount fixed so I hope to lay the smack down Sunday. If my batteries last! :tongue:

canbquik
12-06-2003, 04:38 PM
I'm guessin' he's got exotic compound tires. Blind? He's already wearing glasses!! :dude: Got the ECM body mount fixed so I hope to lay the smack down Sunday. If my batteries last! :tongue:
Looks like I stopped just in time!!!!!! :eek:

k1m
12-07-2003, 07:59 PM
Well canbquick, it sure does fly, but ya need alittle work on those landings! :D :D That's the first time I've ever seen someone break a Fun Wons front beam. Leave it to you, huh? I have another one from a kit BTW.
Nice run in Fun BuRP Ovalman! That's a good record to shoot for. I felt quite rusty on the roadcourse. Maybe some practice time is due. We gotta get the whole herd out there at once one of these weeks.
SugarDaddy: so...., ya like the oval Burp? Looks it works pretty good for you.

Sugar Daddy
12-07-2003, 08:01 PM
Oh Yeah! I like it! I'll be running both Open and Fun BuRP classes from now on.

And Kim... remeber to charge your batteries before you race! :jest:

EvaderAndy
12-07-2003, 09:25 PM
I need a diff BAD! for 1: to make that corner near where K1m pits 2: I already have have the upgraded spur on the shelf and the upgraded pinion already, I need to go zoom zoom.
Also those like K1m,Ovalman,Sugar D how do you make your own site cause I have tons of pic's of last year,off-road,now ect.

Thanks :thumbsup:

Sugar Daddy
12-08-2003, 12:58 AM
Well Andy, it's not really that simple to make a web page. First you have to have a place online to upload your pics to, second you have to know HTML codeing. If you are looking just to make a simple website, and you don't mind ads popping up, go here: Geocites (http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/learn2/HowItWorks4_Free.html) It is a site that has a simple set up. You just signup, them choose a website template that you like, then you type in the things you want to say, and finally you upload your pics to them. There isn't a whole lot of freedom in doing "EXACTLY" what you want, but it's quick and easy.

If you are interested in making your own pages, you will have to learn HTML code. This is just one place I found that teaches you how. HTML code (http://www.davesite.com/webstation/html/)

If you want to find another one, just go to Google (http://www.google.com) and type in "learn HTML". I hope that helps!

EvaderAndy
12-08-2003, 02:46 PM
thanks shawn
I might do the html code and have my cousin help me he's in a computer programing class and knows this stuff a little more. :thumbsup:

OvalmanPA
12-08-2003, 03:38 PM
Sugar Daddy shows how it's done in the Open BuRP stock class! Who needs a mod motor to win this class when you can do it with a stocker? Ok so the two mod guys had trouble but you didn't hear me say that. :tongue: Great racing in the BuRP classes this week. Donalbain and myself had a great battle in the first heat of Fun BuRP. I don't remember when I've had so much fun. I just really like running the BuRPs on the roadcourse better than oval. Yea I know, this from a guy with the handle of OvalmanPA! LOL Three new records this week.

Open BuRP stock - Sugar Daddy 56/5:02.81
Open BuRP modified - K1M 62/5:02.07
Fun BuRP - yours truely 34/5:03.70


-- Open BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 3 56 5:02.81 Shaun Powell S 3 12.35
2 0 50 5:01.21 Kim Fortner 16 11.09
3 4 46 5:02.02 Laura Burrows S 9 10.17
4 6 40 3:37.81 Chris Burrows 12 12.27
5 2 39 3:50.42 Joy Fortner S 17 11.30
6 7 37 3:43.17 Johna Simar S 19 11.07

-- Fun BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 5 34 5:03.70 Rick Morgan 13 9.92
2 0 31 5:08.07 Kim Fortner 15 8.91
3 3 30 5:01.92 Shaun Powell 4 8.80
4 1 29 5:04.89 Don Weimer 23 8.43
5 2 26 5:09.14 Andy Eaton 7 7.45

-- Fun BuRP - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 4 27 5:00.53 Laura Burrows 8 7.96
2 2 25 5:06.60 Joy Fortner 18 7.22
3 8 19 5:00.56 Barb Morgan 14 5.60
4 1 13 3:08.10 Gage Campbell 2 6.12
-- 6 --- DNS --- Chris Burrows 11 0.00

k1m
12-08-2003, 09:37 PM
Great week of racing indeed! I think the carpet is laying alittle flater. Donalbain was able to give Ovalman a good run on the road course. And how about EvaderAndy landing a spot in the "A" with a pure stock Fun Won, and he doesn't even have the diff kit yet! Good drivin, kid! :thumbsup: Keep thinking...30 laps!
The 30 lap club is filling in fast: Rick, Don, me, Shawn...Who's next??
I think some of the ladies will be there soon too. LLB is getting her's hooked up and fast.
SugarDaddy:You're right...I checked my battery, it just didn't get a full charge I guess. :rolleyes: I'll bet you can run 60 laps in stock oval and I'm shooting for 65 in mod! :devil:

EvaderAndy
12-08-2003, 09:58 PM
And how about EvaderAndy landing a spot in the "A" with a pure stock Fun Won, and he doesn't even have the diff kit yet! Good drivin, kid! :thumbsup: Keep thinking...30 laps!
I'm hoping to get a diff for christmas (hint,hint) to my parents :D ................ :lol:

k1m
12-10-2003, 12:11 AM
How many other tracks offer a practice night during the week? How many of those let you play for free? I hope enough people here take advantage of practice night to make it continue. It's really cool to be able to try some different tires or settings and see if they help without a big crowd around. You don't have to wait for transponders or have to be sure you're ready to race. It's also a great time just to work on driving skills and find your groove.
We sure had a good time tonite, and it was even educational..... :D Not so much R/C related, but knowledge is power, right? Hehehehehe!

:eek:

EvaderAndy
12-10-2003, 07:47 AM
I would of been there but didn't have enough gas :cry: Just going to try again next week :thumbsup:

OvalmanPA
12-10-2003, 11:57 AM
K1M........I dunno about educational but there sure were some preverts there. :lol:

Andy............better have some chili next Monday. :)