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RAFster 10-14-2003, 10:07 PM I recall one race day at Da Track in Oval where Stock actually beat the number of laps in Mod because Mod had numerous wrecks whereas the winner of Stock had a wreck free race. Depending on your Stock racers and their skill will of course impact passing and other things.
Just a thought to inject...
canbquik 10-14-2003, 10:16 PM Give a guy MONSTER POWER in a BuRP, and he will use it all , on and off the track :devil:
I'd still like to see the BuRP "for fun" class be run on the oval occasionally. Just to give it some variation, it might even save having to change track 3 times/day. With touring cars pretty much dead and 1/12 scale sporadic at best, there may be weeks we don't need to set up the road course. Just a thought...
The GTP style oval racing sounds like fun, but I think it will be confusing to keep track of things. Not only would the race director need to keep track (and tech) each racers class, but so would the racers. Full scale racers know who's behind them by the body style. It could work, might be fun, but I'd just call it open class....then everyone could run whatever they want and see what they can do with it.
Keep it simple....one class pretty much stock "for fun" whether oval or r.c. and the other class everyone else on the oval. :rolleyes:
OvalmanPA 10-15-2003, 11:56 AM That's pretty much what it's coming down to now.
Oval BuRP - Open class (racers sign up as stock or modified)
1. $8 entry fee
2. Points class with trophies
3. Racers signing up as "stock" will need to have motor and battery teched after races. Stock BRP motor and up to 6 cell battery pack of cells your choosing (AA, AAA, 2/3 A, etc.).
Fun BuRP
1. $2 entry fee
2. No points or trophies awarded
3. Road course class/oval as an option on days there are no other road course classes
4. Stock BRP cars. BRP motor, up to 6 cell battery pack of your choosing (AA, AAA, 2/3 A, etc.).
It'll take me a little longer to do points with the open class but if this is what you guys want, I'm willing to give it a try. How do the above rules sound to you?
canbquik 10-15-2003, 05:13 PM sounds good, now just have to figure out how to get that 380 in there.... :eek:
Ovalman: Sounds like a plan to me. I knew you could do it. A+
WARBIRD 10-16-2003, 03:39 PM If schedules work out the Sugar Grove gang will be making the trip with Bud. Mapquest says 5.5 hrs, still not to far to race Brp's with some good people. Hopefully see you all in december. :wave:
Warbird: That sounds great...we look forward to racing with you guys again. I think we're gonna have a hot season of BuRP racing here in Pa. even if it does get cold outside! :eek:
OvalmanPA 10-16-2003, 06:30 PM Just to clarify for anyone that might not be clear on how the points are going to work in Oval BuRP. It's basically going to be two classes run together, stock and modified. First place stock will get 175 points and first place modified will get 175 points and so on.
Glad everyone is happy with what I've come up with so far. :)
EvaderAndy 10-16-2003, 08:35 PM I have an old 280 turbo tuned motor out of my boat think of the possiablities hhhhmmmm....
EvaderAndy 10-16-2003, 08:38 PM sounds good, now just have to figure out how to get that 380 in there.... :eek:
who needs a 380 when you can SQUEEZE a 10 turn in there :D :lol:
EvaderAndy 10-17-2003, 08:22 PM btw k1m what do you need to put a 280 in a burp you said the metal motor mount plates is that all or what else
Andy: BRP makes a "Big Block" motor mount #352 that allows you to put a speed 300 sized motor in a BuRP. I'm not sure about the 280 motor you have....you could probably redrill the motor mount to make it fit, but I'm really not sure if you'd like it better than your BRP motor. What size is the shaft? I'd make sure you can fit pinion gears on the 280 first.
CanBquick: The motor in your Pro is a Watt Age 370, AKA Orion Big Block, Gnauper Speed 300.
Here's more info:
Sounds like I'm not the only one gettin alittle antsy to run the BuRPs again. Anybody wanna play next sunday (26th)? We're thinking about checking out CanBquicks turf at the park in Bradford. There are tennis courts to run the BRP's on and I hear there's a good sized dirt pile just asking to be tore up by some Maxx's. Long as the weather holds out, we're planning on going over around noon.
EvaderAndy 10-21-2003, 05:48 PM Sounds like I'm not the only one gettin alittle antsy to run the BuRPs again. Anybody wanna play next sunday (26th)? We're thinking about checking out CanBquicks turf at the park in Bradford. There are tennis courts to run the BRP's on and I hear there's a good sized dirt pile just asking to be tore up by some Maxx's. Long as the weather holds out, we're planning on going over around noon.
Dirt pile.............Can't...............Rezist....... ....must tear up! :lol:
to bad my dads working not sure on my mom yet.
OvalmanPA 10-21-2003, 07:35 PM Dunno if I'll make it because we kind of made plans to go to Spragues on Sunday. Have to see how things work out. Sounds like a good time!
EvaderAndy 10-22-2003, 06:54 AM nop I'm out darn it!
BudBartos 10-22-2003, 03:35 PM I thought I saw snow on the radar for you guys!!!!!
Take a drive out to Cleveland for the Halloween classic, lots of top drivers will be there!!!! Including SG1, 2slow00, orange racer, micro-racer, and others :eek:
You're right, Bud...I had alittle snow on our deck this morning! When I called for a play day, the forecast was 60's and 10% chance of rain...now it's 50's and 40%. :(
We are a hearty bunch though and will hope for the best.....I've driven with gloves before!
How bad have you got it?
:lol:
canbquik 10-23-2003, 11:08 PM have no fear, in the constant pursuit of r/c'ing, I have a plan ;) There is a pavilion that is right next to the basketball courts, also has power for chargers, all that is needed is a table and your chairs for a day of r/c maheim!!!!!! If I just knew someone with racing cones...... :rolleyes: Anyway hopefully, all will be able to come to one of the last FUN DAYS of the season, see you all sunday!!!! :wave:
Thanks to the big pavilion, we were still able to have some fun on a rainy day in Pa. We blew off the concrete with a leaf blower, set up some traffic cones, and had a good ole time! It wasn't cold, but alittle wet around the edges. CanBquick's mud bus bodys look sweet in motion.
We even ran the Maxx's.....reverse spin 180's and cyclones are fun too!
Good plan, man....we'll have to go back there again someday for sure! :thumbsup:
OvalmanPA 10-27-2003, 06:43 PM Sorry I didn't make it but the deep fried french toast and sausage was pretty good too. :)
Nov 23 is the date of the first race of the carpet season at Racers Edge. We're looking forward to a hot season of BRP racing with two classes of 1/18 scale, the BuRP class on the road course and the new oval course class that will include stock AND modified! Come and join in on the FUN!
More info:
http://www.racersedgerc.com
Less than 6 days left until we get the carpet season underway here in Pa. The carpet is down (no thanks to me :( ) and I'm sure Rick & Johna are getting things ship shape. We start out every season with a prerace swap meet at the track where you can wheel & deal and get in a few practice laps the night before the first race.
We've really had a ball racing BuRPs the last few years at Racers Edge, with a pretty steady following of about 10 BuRP racers/week.
For pics and specs on most of them, check out the Driver Profile Page:
http://pennswoods.net/~fortner/burprofiles.html
It should be interesting to see if anyone likes running the BuRPs on the oval. Normally, we run them on the road course but we're also gonna try some oval racing this year.....We enjoyed running on the oval at BRP World Headquarters so much this summer, we wanted to give it a go.
Now for the Smack Talk ...
There are a few who think the Mud Bus bodied BuRPs are going to be the ones to beat. They've even resorted to some pretty archaic mods to gain any slight advantage! I won't go into details here, there's a long season ahead. But then there are a couple who think the sprint cars are going to dominate! Time Will Tell!
All I can say is there are alot of racers around here just itching to bang some wheels and swap alittle paint! :eek:
canbquik 11-18-2003, 01:18 AM They've even resorted to some pretty archaic mods to gain any slight advantage! I won't go into details here, there's a long season ahead.
I wouldn't say ARCHAIC, maybe CUTTING EDGE INSANITY???? :devil: :devil:
Sugar Daddy 11-18-2003, 06:48 PM Everyone should be careful! That "CUTTING EGDE INSANITY" may be contagious! I think that Kim might have caught it! We will just have to see this saturday at the swap meet.
EvaderAndy 11-18-2003, 07:04 PM there's nothing like bumper to bumper racing and making a K1m,Canbquik, and myself sandwich :thumbsup:
Andy: You said it! You'll have to try being the bun instead of the meat sometime! :jest:
"If he hadn't had another car to bounce off of, he'da wrecked!" - Darrell Waltrip
scoutout02 11-18-2003, 08:21 PM can I get the PRO chasis with front end and rear end? or do you have to buy the sc and the pro?
Scout: Glad to see you made it. BRP makes the PRO chassis conversion as a hopup for the SC18. As far as I know, Bud doesn't sell the PRO in kit form. I think you would be happy starting out with a stock SC18 or Fun Won because they are FAST & TOUGH. There are some hopups like a ball differential you can add that will really improve handling and you will have just as much fun. You can always save the PRO upgrade for later when and if you feel the need for more power like a mod motor, etc. If you really have you heart set on a PRO though, I'd look for a used SC18 and then get the PRO conversion.
One of the neat things about the BRP class is the fact that you don't have to spend alot of money to have a whole lot of fun. :thumbsup:
Sugar Daddy 11-18-2003, 08:53 PM If your looking for BuRPs, you might want to try eBay. There are a few on there right now. eBay (http://search.ebay.com/ws/search/SaleSearch?sokeywordredirect=1&ht=1&sosortproperty=1&satitle=brp&from=R8&sacategory=220&catref=C1)
EvaderAndy 11-18-2003, 08:57 PM Andy: You said it! You'll have to try being the bun instead of the meat sometime! :jest:
"If he hadn't had another car to bounce off of, he'da wrecked!" - Darrell Waltrip
I'll try my best too just hope it's not the bottom bun :jest:
scoutout02 11-18-2003, 09:08 PM SHHH!!! sugar daddy, i got i'm bidding on right now w/ 5hrs. left don't jinks me. :lol: lol dirt cheap so far w/ ball diff. i was bidding on a charger, and somebody outbid me by 50cents and 30 sec to go. :mad: thanks for the info though.
If your looking for BuRPs, you might want to try eBay. There are a few on there right now.
Yeah, and that one dude sounds familiar.... :D
One tip when shopping for a used BuRP....rather than go into a whole lot of details, just ask them what color the chassis is. The new chassis (SC18) is blue, the old chassis was black.
scoutout02 11-18-2003, 09:13 PM here is a pic, the chasis is black (older) is that bad? :confused:
El Guapo 11-18-2003, 09:50 PM Hey Scout: That is the older model. Canbequick gave me a bunch of parts a while back to use. I cut one of those up to make body posts :rolleyes:
Sugar Daddy 11-18-2003, 09:54 PM Whoa! El Guapo lives! I thought that you were a victim of your job!
El Guapo 11-18-2003, 10:05 PM Sugar-D: Well I kinda' got bogged down with working on my Jeep Wrangler (Stinkin' money magnet) and it is finally on the road. I was at the track today with Rick and Johnna giving them a hand. I'm behind the scenes! :thumbsup:
scoutout02 11-18-2003, 10:09 PM so your sayin i'm throwing away $30. :jest: <-- thats me, a fool. :lol:
Sugar Daddy 11-18-2003, 10:09 PM I was wondering where the Jeep went. I was by that gas station on saturday and didn't see it there. I wasn't sure if you got it on the road or not.
Sugar Daddy 11-18-2003, 10:11 PM Your not throwing away $30. You don't need the best BuRP to have fun with it. (Boy, I should listen to my own advice!) Anyway, buy it and run it, if you like it, then upgrade to the SC18 Pro later. If you don't like it, it only cost you $30.
El Guapo 11-18-2003, 10:12 PM Yeah its all done, except for paint, that will have to wait. Can't race and paint full size cars with little cash. "Race now, Paint later" (in my best caveman voice)
Sugar Daddy 11-18-2003, 10:13 PM Good idea. Plus, you won't ruin a good paint job over the winter.
El Guapo 11-18-2003, 10:18 PM Scout-- I wasn't inferring that the car wouldn't be the shiznit, just lettin' ya know that it was the older model. Wait till you see the buggy I run in stock 2wd. Go "Team Old Lo'". Jr 2 buggy (Ancient stuff)
canbquik 11-18-2003, 11:43 PM Todd, they handle the same as the newer ones, their all handfuls, regardless of the type. The type you have has a lower center of gravity, which makes it handle well, it will get bounced around by the fun wons, but they have to catch ya' :devil: . I've driven both and as a matter of fact Laura's first one was the same as the one you bought, she had a ball with it. The only reason she got a new one was because it was easier for her to see the wheels on the fun wons (could see them turning ). I like to run the sc18, but with the rubbing I get involved in, I really need a fun wons to keep from going on the roof, of course I have TONS of help in that department!!!!! A ball diff, some kryptonite batteries and nerves of steel and your there man :thumbsup:
RAFster 11-19-2003, 12:00 AM If you break something on the Oval Outlaw you might have a hard time getting parts. You can fabricate some of your own replacement parts if need be...
I've seen it done in a crunch...
The Super Oval Outlaw may be a little slower and it will not handle as well as the SC18 or the Pro.
Even so, it can give Micros a hard run for the money in stock form.
Your front end parts willl transfer as will the Ball Differential. So, you could upgrade to the SC18 with the upgrade kit for $42 I think. Or go for the Pro upgrade at $70 for the Pro LTO to $80 for the Pro? Bud runs a LTO on either Oval or Road Course, so don't think the LTO would only be for oval.
Just a little info from what I've gathered about the older car...
squeeker138 11-19-2003, 02:39 AM Rafster,
You wouldn't be talking about me when you were making that statement were you? If so/not it was a treat making those arms out of a piece of fiberglass that I had in my tool box for a pan car. We had a good time while over there. Again I say thank-you for all of your hospitality. Hard to believe how much time has passed since.
P.S. I finally am getting one of my own it should be here in a few days.
Patrick
scoutout02 11-19-2003, 07:03 AM thanks for the info guys. but i got outbid at the last sec. again.
EvaderAndy 11-19-2003, 07:52 AM there's one thing better than rubing and that's flying... all ya have to do is hit the pipe holder at a slight angel and your off it's even better when you jump over some one to get ahead....for a moment
RAFster 11-19-2003, 12:24 PM Yeah Squeeker, I was thinking of you. You were quite handy with the dremel that night. I won't be racing for a while, had some hand surgery Monday. Great news on your landing the SC18 or Pro. Hopefully you guys can make it to Classic again sometime we don't have a snowstorm. I look forward to being able to race there again sometime but it will be a while before I can wrench on my car, much less race.
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