Did it line up before when you looked at it in Notepad or a text editor? If it did, then it is puzzling. If it did not, then
I don't know what to say. Nil's the expert on this...

Using buttons to provide the coding when posting it puts the info in the text format. You just hit the button, type or paste your text in, and it will append it to the bottom of the posting...

RAFster
David

BRP Results
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 8 31 5:05.43 Chris Burrows 13 9.54
2 2 30 5:03.57 Kim Fortner 17 9.29
3 4 30 5:07.16 Don Weimer 30 9.18
4 5 26 5:11.31 Rick Morgan 8 7.85
5 3 26 5:11.76 Joy Fortner 18 7.84
6 1 21 5:14.40 Laura Burrows 15 6.28
7 9 18 5:13.78 Barb Morgan 9 5.39
8 7 15 5:11.27 Johna Simar 6 4.53
Hokay, it can be done.
This assumes you have the Racers Edge "Results" page open in a separate window.
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Yeah, I know, it sounds complicated. Not near as bad as starting a lawnmower, though, let alone racing a nitro.

Yeah, I know, it sounds complicated. Not near as bad as starting a lawnmower, though, let alone racing a nitro.

Isn't racing a Nitro similar to racing a lawnmower? They both handle about the same... :D :D

Ya know, the Speed 300 is somewhat like nitro racing. Nitro racers are on the edge of control when pushing hard. (Referring to on-road...no experience with off-road...) In the same way the Speed 300 can be this way.

RAFster
David

K1M sets new track record with SC18! Seems he's finally got the little BuRP running pretty well but canbquik showed us all the way in the main. :lol:


-- BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 1 32 5:04.62 Chris Burrows 17 9.88
2 3 31 5:01.67 Kim Fortner 30 9.66
3 2 31 5:08.55 Don Weimer 27 9.45
4 7 28 5:06.63 Johna Simar 8 8.59
5 5 25 5:03.29 Rick Morgan 11 7.75
6 9 21 5:10.16 Barb Morgan 12 6.37
-- 8 --- DNS --- Shane Hushon 38 0.00


The only micro was once again dead for the mains. The poor guy says he has way to much $$$$ in it now to give up and get a BuRP. :confused:

Special thanks to NIL for showing us the code tag!

Ovalman wrote:
The only micro was once again dead for the mains. The poor guy says he has way to much $$$$ in it now to give up and get a BuRP.

I hear this from many Micro owners. They don't see the reality until it is too late. Most people who want to race would prefer to do it cheaply and go fast. It eats them up when a another car with way less money can kick their car's butt. The high tech look is skin deep with the Micro.

RAFster

Canbquick's taxi service was just the faster car in the main, I passed him once on the back stretch and since we've been good friends for years, I said to him, "see ya!" He replied, "Oh Yeah? We'll see! And he proceeded to draft me around the next few turns so hard, I traction rolled and he got back by me! There's always alot of good natured track talk on the driver's stand during the BuRP race.
The SC18 is really starting to come around now, the orange fronts helped hook it up on the ozite, but the occasional traction roll at the end of the back stretch is still a problem. I think I may have had a major breakthrough tonight that will surely help. For now, I'll just say it has to do with there being 5 right hand turns and 2 left hand turns on our track. And next week I'll report on the difference, either way.
Thanx for posting results, Ovalman - nice straight columns too!
:D

To all mini racers - I hear there'll be a full moon this year
http://www.top-greetings.com/cards/87/santamoon1.gif

MERRY CHRISTMAS

K1m ... You funny guy!!!

DRIVER PROFILE: Joy Fortner
Location: Port Allegany, Pa.
Username:
BuRP PROFILE:
Chassis: SC18 Fun Won
ESC: Futaba MC230CR
Servo: Futaba 148
Reciever: Futaba FP-R122JE
Battery: "Kryptonite" 1200mah NiMH (ICEBOX BATTERIES)

Strengths: Joy is a veteran racer, definately "a force to be reckoned with".
Weakness: Feels bad if she takes someone out....she even uses her brake! ;)

I was beginning to wonder where the profile of the week was. Feels bad if she takes someone out? I bet it depends on the person, right Joy? :p

hey ovalman... we all feel bad when we tank someone, it's just some of us deal with guilt differently:D with that said, I'd like to appoligize right now for any " unintentional bumping" which may occur:devil: 'til tomorrow....bump ya' later

Originally posted by canbquik
hey ovalman... we all feel bad when we tank someone, it's just some of us deal with guilt differently:D

Haha.......true............true. The guilt of it all follows me home every week. :devil:

The guilt of it all follows me home every week.
Then you should have had quite a load of it in the back this week!
Ovalman found a way to defeat my rollover antenna....if he pins me against the pipe with his truck, I can't roll back over! I think I got back at him a few times, though. :devil:
Canbquick traded in his Fun Won for an SC18. One thing I've noticed now that I've raced both, is that the SC18 is more nimble and reacts quicker, but the Fun Wons (can be) just as fast and are much more stable. When push comes to shove, I think the Fun Wons come out on top thought. Definately two completely different vehicles, at least in the way they handle.
Congrats to Donalbain...run her til she smokes! (he knows what I mean ;) )

Last week I realized that most of my heaviest radio gear was on the left side of chassis, and most of my problems with traction rolling was when turning right. Now my ESC is on the right side, along with my transponder mount with my reciever on the left. The 2 left hand turns on our track are in the slower section so they're not a problem.
It does make a difference, even in a mini racer. :thumbsup:

Typical BuRP first turn:

I don't know what burp start your talking about? I thought the idea was to 'push' your way to the front(learn'd it by watch'n ovalman:lol: ) seriously thou, there was a lot of good natured rubbing going on today and that just plain equals FUN:roll: until next time 'keep your burp on the wheels and the mini's on the bench' :D

Originally posted by k1m
Then you should have had quite a load of it in the back this week!


Had a whole overloaded truckload K1M. Thought I was going to have to make two trips! :p

canbquik.....push my way to the front? Hell I can't throw it to the front it's so slow! :lol:

Think I have a combo going on of needing a new motor, new bats, and of course a good cleaning wouldn't hurt either. haha

And now for the results:


-- BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 3 31 5:03.31 Don Weimer 35 9.61
2 7 30 5:02.69 Kim Fortner 5 9.32
3 8 28 5:04.10 Chris Burrows 17 8.66
4 1 28 5:14.13 Johna Simar 9 8.38
5 6 26 5:04.64 Joy Fortner 7 8.03
6 5 25 5:10.08 Rick Morgan 2 7.58
7 9 23 5:06.93 Barb Morgan 3 7.05
8 2 18 5:03.73 Laura Burrows 19 5.57


Congrats to Donalbain for a good run in the main. I seem to be stuck on 25 now so nobody has to worry about me! LOL

DRIVER PROFILE: Don Weimer
Location: Portville, Ny.
Username: Donalbain
BuRP PROFILE:
Chassis: SC18 Fun Won
ESC: Novak Explorer II
Servo: Futaba FP-S133
Reciever: Futaba FP-R122JE
Battery: "Kryptonite" 1200mah NiMH (ICEBOX BATTERIES)

Strengths: Wicked fast, doesn't make mistakes very often. (A deadly combination)
Weakness: Often thinks he's Kenny from South Park and his hood blocks his peripheral vision. :hat:

ROTFLMAO.............Kenny.................... :lol:

Hehe...........when he does make a mistake though I imagine I'm in on it, right Don? :p

I believe I've been "cleanly" hacked by everyone in the class. Some more than others! Getting tangled with others (OMPA) and not having reverse seems to be one of my weak points.:)

I'm shooting for beefier front suspension this week. Finially found a counter-sink drill bit yesterday. Just gotta line everything up on the chassis half decent.:eek:

hey I RESEMBLE that cleanly hacked remark!!!! You know how hard it is to drive TAXI all week, then race cleanly, do ya', well, do ya':lol:

Well, it took alot of eye ballin' but I finished dropping in the 1/12th suspension. The front ride hight dropped dramatically. Now it's going to take some tweaking but I'm still concerned it's going to scrape the carpet. If nothing else, it looks tough! Real estate is at a premium too. Don't believe I have room for a transponder, or rather, a place to mount it.

Ovalman-> could you please bring your camera to the track tomorrow?

Cool, You did a 12th suspension!
The Fun Won has room for a 12th suspension...I don't think you can shoe horn one in for the SC18 unless you have micro electronic gear to put everything everywhere...
I eagerly await the pictures Donalbain.

back to the chores...

RAFster
David

Sure I'll bring the camera tomorrow. I've got to see this and I'm sure everyone else would too.

Originally posted by OvalmanPA
Sure I'll bring the camera tomorrow. I've got to see this and I'm sure everyone else would too.
i need to see this:D
Hey Don, What front suspension parts did you use 12L3 or 12Lw?

It's Team Associated #4401 - 1/12th scale new front end w/out chassis. Tag says $39.00 but I got a smokin' deal on it 2 years ago when the local HS was going under. You'll probley laugh when you see the pictures, the speedo and reciever are on their sides, reciever on the servo. I might have managed some room for a transponder, we'll see later today.:thumbsup:


The race went well today. Ride hight wasn't as much of a concern as I had expected. I used the top most hole in my servo saver to mount the inside ballstuds for the steering links and it gave the car an incredible amount of steering throw. Had to use another radio with dual rate to tame the beast. Perhaps a lower mounting point would have been a better choice. All in all, it's very exciting to be able to control castor, camber and toe-in. At least, more acuratly.:thumbsup: Still not sure if this kit is the 12L or the 12LW but it does have reactive castor. Hope to have pic's soon!

Here are a few pics of Donalbains creation. It looks a little unorthidox but it seems to work. Best part is, it's purple! :D

#2

#3

The setup looks great, but how did it run for you? You have been waiting to do this for how long now?

Well look who crawled out of the woodwork. :) Nice to see you back on the boards KSG. BTW, he won so I guess it didn't work to bad. :D

Ovalman...nice pics. Any of full chassis?

Donalbain...
Front suspension looks nice.
Purple eh?

I happened to have a bagged version of the same suspension I snagged off Tower's daily sale for about $18.
This works for the Fun Wons, but it would be too wide for the SC18...wouldn't?

Is winning 2 weekends in a row the beginning of a domination? :D
Next week will tell... :D

I've been messing with an adjustable front steering linkage but the digital camera is toast. Put together a swivel link steering linkage for no servo saver. Needs more design time to fit the servo saver...
I looked at the short turnbuckles in the kit but they are larger than 4-40. :(

Looking forward to some racing this week as I travel to Cleveland for Thursday night and Saturday night carpet racing fun. The Mini Cooper is getting dusted off to play Thursday along with the SC18.

This summer maybe a road trip to PA for a long weekend of fun and a little racing?

RAFster
David

KSG-> I've wanted to do this for about three years. Had plans drawn up before there was an S.C.18. Bud beat me to it!:rolleyes: The main difference was mine had this suspension.

It ran very well, better than expected! It had too much steering throw, though. It took all the dual rate I had to make it drivable/competitive. And if nothing else, it looks killer!:p

Thanks to Ovalman for taking the great pics!

Now I'll take it "out" an drop the stock parts back in, mods are illegal at our track. Perhaps if a 380 mod class opens up, we'll see this front end again.:wave:

RAFster-> post pics when you can!

droooooooool:eek:

youve got the 12L3 and looks nice:cool: Ill guess it is the setup to beat.:D
did you mantain the original front track dimension?
dou you have a complete car pic?



BTW LW FS look like this
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LX2463&P=7

No records this week but good racing all around.


-- BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 1 31 5:00.53 Don Weimer 15 9.70
2 8 31 5:06.56 Kim Fortner 20 9.51
3 4 28 5:03.62 Joy Fortner 21 8.67
4 7 28 5:06.35 Johna Simar 12 8.59
5 3 26 5:02.19 Chris Burrows 6 8.09
6 5 24 5:11.76 Rick Morgan 2 7.24
7 2 22 5:05.71 Laura Burrows 8 6.77
8 9 19 5:07.15 Barb Morgan 3 5.82
-- 6 --- DNS --- Shane Hushon 35 0.00

boy that suspention front end looks great looks like bud might be adding a couple holes in his chassis soon (hint) ( hint ) ok ok ill add one more (hint)(hint):wave:

Donalbains new front suspension does look beefy, I could catch him but not pass him. Leave it on, Don...we won't tell anyone... I'd like to give Canbquick a tip of the old antenna for actually using a lap car like a cue ball to inch me out once. :lol:
Sorry to see our last Micro drop out....his new penquin chassis didn't seem to help, but I loved the '68 Camaro body.
Ovalman: We're all running 6 cell batterys. You should too!
:o

How many cells is Donalbain running?
7? 5?
RAFster

RAFster: The suspension might fit, it might squeeze together another .400". I use 6 cell packs of 1200Mah NiMy's.

DSI: The track dimension is VERY close. I only eyeballed it and haven't yet put my calipers on it to even check how close. Sorry, I don't have a full chassis pic with the body off.

K1m: Promise not to tell?:lol: That camaro body was pretty sweet. Has Bolink been making 1/18th bodys for very long? Guess I should visit their site once in a while!

Originally posted by k1m
Ovalman: We're all running 6 cell batterys. You should too!
:o

Have a whole bag full of new green meanies ready to put together at the track but didn't make it last night by the time I got done cleaning up cars that were in MAJOR need of it. Hope to get them done tomorrow when we go to clean then we'll see if that helps in the speed department any. :p

That reminds me. What's everybody charging their green cells at? 1 amp, 2 amps? I think canbquik said last night he is using 2? I've always used .50-.80. Guess it hasn't helped any in the longevity department so I might as well get some JUICE out of them! :D

NiMH batteries are fickle beasts. You try and take care of them by not getting them too hot and they act like a lump and don't give the output. You overheat them and they start degrading to the point you can see it in no time...so you destroyed that cell(s).
Leave them not charged/fully discharged and after a few weeks they may not take a charge.
Ovalman are you finding they are dying or dropping in performance. I've looked at PowerEx's (MAHA) website white papers and battery data sheets and they showed that for AA cells the IR values of the cell (Internal resistance) goes up with time.
This is not like the NiCad batteries, they lose capacity due to increased IR but also to cell degradation.
So, NiMH provide a decent solution (light and high capacity) but they don't have what? 1/2 the life of NiCads.

The 2/3A matched cells I have recommended 1.5A and they were rated at 1000 mAH.
So a 1.5X factor of capacity might be a good rule of thumb to go by.

RAFster

hey ovalman, I have charged my 'older' cells at 2 amps and they seem to have a little more punch. But with my new cells I have been charging those at 1.5 amps. At 2 amps you only get about 2 years on a pack, my old ones are starting to show there age. Hope this helps.:thumbsup:

I've upped the amps for mine this year also. I'm charging @1.5 but thinking of 2. My batts are 2 1/2 years old now. Perhaps if I knew where to get the 2/3s A's, I might buy some seein' how the new SC18pro chassis is build/cut for them.

here is where i found a link where u can buy the 2/3rds aa cells www.promatchracing.com

Wish I would have known that you guys wanted some of the 2/3 AAs because I just faxed an order to Pro-Match last Sunday night. :(

Guys here is the ultimate sorce for 2/3 A cells. I have tested these and they seem fine. You will have to cycle them in about 3 times however.http://www.batteryspace.com/product.asp?3=204
I charge them at 1.5 amps let cool and discharge with 2 1157 bulbs thats about 4.5 to 5 amps. Do this several times letting cool. When you run them just keep recharging no need to discharge and store them with charge in them.
Thank 2sloww00 for finding this site :thumbsup:

This may be a little off topic, but I know you guys have the answers-
What is the best tire combination and setup tips for SC18 on a carpet oval? I just need the basics.
Thanks,
AEracer

aeracer>> We are running orange fronts and blue rears on all carpet tracks.

I bought a 2/3A 1000mah 6 cell pack on ebay last month for $15 shipped, and cycled it on my Tekin discharger twice/nite for 4 days. I charged them at .80A the first 2 days, then 1A last 2 days with discharge at 4.5A (Keep in mind my setup treats the cells as a pack, not individually like a Turbomatcher, but it's only for comparisons.) I kept track of charge time, peak voltage, and mah when charging and average voltage, time, and A/hr when discharging. I have done the same with the 1200mah NiMh AA's "Kryptonite" most of us have been enjoying for the last couple of years. So far, the two's average discharge voltage numbers are VERY close, with the 1200's holding their own for about 150 - 200 sec longer.(5.40V cutoff - .90/cell)
I also tested them on the track and although I think they ran as well as my AA's I couldn't honestly see a noticable improvement, even with the less weight. I also tried running the pack 3 times on the same race day, and I didn't keep track of numbers, but the pack seemed "mushy" on the 3rd run.
It may make quite a difference where they come from, I don't know. Promatch's batterys may be stronger due to pushing or blasting or what ever, they run about $3/cell + ship = $25/pack
Mine came from Racer Hobbies...http://www.racerhobbies.com/micro.shtml
Bud's right; http://www.batteryspace.com/product.asp?3=204 is the best price, 16 cells for $22!

Don't be fooled: 2/3A cells are what we're talking about, not 2/3AA which are smaller yet.

Guess whats in store for my 2/3A pack now???
He's cooking at 1.5A right now, and it'll probably have to endure alot more torture than that: ALL IN THE NAME OF SCIENCE!
:devil:

2/3A Update:
After increasing charge rate to 1.5A for several cycles and 2A for several more, charge time was down from 55min to 30min and peak voltages went up about .20v. But during discharge (where I think it really counts) average voltages remain virtually the same with about 30 sec less run time.

So increasing charge rate gets them charged quicker, but doesn't seem to increase their voltage. (but it doesn't seem to hurt either) What it does to the life cycle of the batterys remains to be seen.

DRIVER PROFILE: Barb Morgan
Location: Smethport, Pa
Username: Snookie
BuRP PROFILE:
Chassis: SC18 Fun Won
ESC: MC230CR
Servo: Futaba S148
Reciever: Novak XXL
Battery: "Kryptonite" 1200mah NiMH (ICEBOX BATTERIES)

Strengths: Snookie's delicious chili is the BuRP driver fuel of choice! :thumbsup:
Weakness: There's some talk in the pits that she too has some trouble with her pit crew.

Pit crew has it covered now............I hope. Pushin' the juice to the new cells as I type. :D

2 amps are just too much for my "old" batteries. My "good" pack began venting. 1.5 is the threshold of comfort for them. Perhaps if they were newer...:rolleyes: