Andy.....most popular classes are Stock truck and 2wd stock since you won't probably want to run Production. :) You can check out the info on our site (www.racersedgerc.com) to find out rules and check the results page to see what runs every week.

Also touring car:thumbsup: after someone comes with one I have one if you have one to race Andy.

Rick
Can you run 3 or whatever many C cells (like in a stick pack)in a any brp race?

You guys better bump up the track records!!!!! looks like we will have a real gang of guys coming out on the 25th at least 8 at this time.
Should be a blast.
K1m>> I need the directions again!!

HAPPY NEW YEAR :wave:

"When coming into Smethport go all the way through on Route 6 until you get to East Smethport. Make a right turn onto Route 46 (there is a restuarant on the corner called Myras) and go about 100 yards till you get to the McKean County fair grounds, (you will see a sign that says McKean Co. Raceway) turn right there and the track is in the large green and white building straight ahead."

I sent you a map, Bud and if anyone else needs directions to get to Smethport, send me an email.

We kinda miss putting those neat tire marks on SC18's with our Fun Won's! :p It will be good to race with you guys again. Bring all your toys, Like Ovalman said stock trucks & buggys run oval every week, but touring cars and 1/12 scale, mini-t's....whatever are welcome.

Rick
Can you run 3 or whatever many C cells (like in a stick pack)in a any brp race?

If you don't mind a 12 pound car, be my guest. :) Really Andy, I don't know if there would be any benefit to using sub c cells and like I said, they weight so much but if you want to, go ahead............anything up to 6 cells.

Andy, just remember you need to use at least 4 cells, for the electronics to work. Each cell is 1.2V and 4 would equal 4.8V which is the min. you can use.

Hey guys is the oval sc-18 sprint friendly?

We didn't try a sprinter body on an SC18, but they seemed alittle top heavy on the F.W.

k1m, left a comma out of my question. Have you guys ran the sprints there, and will there be any clearence problems for the sc-18's.

Andy

Depends on what kind of clearance you're talking about? :) If you're talking ground clearance then, maybe. The F.W. cars have a little easier time with things since they have larger wheels. Our track is a little "offroadish" for smaller cars unfortunately. :( Hope to replace the carpet next year and that should take care of that.

Warbird: Yes, and yes. :D

There are a few wrinkles in our carpet, you have to miss them or deal with them. :freak: I tested an SC18 last week with 1/4" clearance under front bumper and it worked pretty good.

thanks guys

hey Don,

I think Matt needs a "little helper" too :D

So, are you guys experimenting with cooling fans on the motors? If so, do they do anything beneficial?

Anyone used heatsinks that solder on or slide on?`

So, are you guys experimenting with cooling fans on the motors? If so, do they do anything beneficial

I am I've tryed a fan for 2 weeks now, I stole it out of an old AC charger.

on the oval with the stock motor for a 5 min race it keeps it to about 130 without about 180.

on the road course same time and motor keeps it about 97 without sum cars about 105-115

I like it and the one I have only take out 0.20 of an amp.

EvaderAndy has come up with a unique and custom "little helper" on his BRP. What's the verdict on it Andy? We know it keeps the motor cooler - is there a difference in power, that you can feel?

Today it was cold and slippery outside, but inside the racing was hot and the track seemed full of traction. Ovalman and I battled it out all day on the roadcourse. We leaned on each other pretty hard and it really seemed to come down to who could avoid the most trouble in traffic.
Our newest racer Matt Weimer is really having a really good time. He got a BuRP for Christmas and even though he's only 5 years old, he's been watching since he was a baby and he is developing contol fast. Several of us are going to go through our toolboxes and gather some old motors for final execution. :eek:

EvaderAndy has come up with a unique and custom "little helper" on his BRP. What's the verdict on it Andy? We know it keeps the motor cooler - is there a difference in power, that you can feel?


A difference? well I run the 52 spur and the 7 tooth pinion and as long as my batts good it and I stay out of the recks I keep up with K1m and ovalman some of the time. but as for power I can't really tell either that or my batts are getting old.

K1m & Ovalman are speed deamins of the fun brp course :thumbsup:

I'm goinng to have to fine tune mine :D

K1m- final execution, that'll work! 200+ degrees, who wanted theirs well done? :jest: Just dropped an old one of mine in there. Also cut a 6 cell pack down to 4, then I found the 230 manual that reads, "6 to 7 cell operation." :drunk:

Radio Shack has a small tube of heatsink compound, p/n:276-1372 A. It's supposed to conduct heat better than just having two pieces of metal touching each other. I've used it in 1/10th before, and the motorplate does get very warm. There, ya got one tiny secret out of me. :cool:

K1m >> can you fill us in on your classes oval/ road course???

hey RAfster

If you'd like I could post some pic's of the size and dezigne of the fan. :thumbsup:

EvaderAndy,

Sure! That would be great.

you got it!

Pic 1: That's it

Pic 2: The Fan and the screws I used 9/16th of an inch screws there a little bigger around so I had to dremel the holes a little bit bigger.

Pic 3: I had to dremel the top motor plate so it was square to get more air in. BTW RAFster are you coming on the trip to racers edge the 25th?

I almost forgot I use a conector that plugs into the battery slot in the reciever. :thumbsup:

Also the size fan I use lines up perfectly with the screw holes for hold down the top motor plate. Sugar Daddy say's "It's almost like it's made for it".

K1m >> can you fill us in on your classes oval/ road course???

Bud.......Open BuRP is strictly oval....98' centerline.

Fun BuRP is either roadcourse (primary) or oval, depending on if we get any other roadcourse entries (TC, 1/12)........130' centerline.

Only one track record this week. :)

K1M..Open BuRP modified..65/5:03.10


-- Open BuRP - A Main --
Pos Car Laps time name id avg.mph
1 8 65 5:03.10 Kim Fortner 24 14.33
2 1 62 5:04.96 Don Weimer 28 13.58
3 6 57 5:04.83 Joy Fortner S 26 12.49
4 2 56 5:04.20 Shaun Powell S 5 12.30
5 3 55 5:02.42 Chris Burrows 16 12.15
6 7 18 1:52.03 Johna Simar S 9 10.74
7 4 10 0:51.97 Laura Burrows S 17 12.86

-- Fun BuRP - A Main --
Pos Car Laps time name id avg.mph
1 5 30 5:01.79 Rick Morgan 6 8.81
2 8 30 5:08.06 Kim Fortner 25 8.63
3 6 29 5:04.23 Joy Fortner 27 8.45
4 3 26 5:04.11 Andy Eaton 12 7.58
5 7 26 5:06.27 Mike Button 22 7.52
6 9 20 5:08.12 Barb Morgan 7 5.75
7 2 8 4:01.66 Matt Weimer 29 2.93
8 1 3 2:17.00 Ray Eaton 14 1.94

Fun BuRP
"This is designed to be a FUN class so let's all not go overboard with trying to spend a bunch of money to go fast or take it too seriously! Find some cheap radio equipment and have a good time."

Stock BRP 1/18 scale cars.
Stock BRP motor.
Up to 6 cell battery packs made of your choice of cells (AA, AAA, 2/3A, etc.).
No points or trophies awarded.
Road course class/oval as an option on days there are no other road course classes.
$2.00 entry fee.

You can expect to be pushed, shoved, rear ended, cut off, and generally run into. There may be cars stopped or going the wrong way at each turn....One minute you'll be nearly run over by a much faster car, and then the next minute you find yourself way too close to another car even slower than you! The neat thing is it's all just for fun and no losers, everyone is welcome. We've included everything from HPI micros to Mini-T's and it's always a good time.

Open BuRP

"This is designed to be a more serious class than the Fun BuRP class since points are involved."

Stock and modified BRP 1/18 scale cars.
Stock and modified motors.
Winner of heat and main signing up as "stock" will need to have motor and battery teched after races. Stock BRP motor and up to 6 cell battery pack of cells your choosing (AA, AAA, 2/3 A, etc.)
Points class with trophies.
Oval only class.
Regular entry fees apply.

This class is oval racing, with a twist....both mod and stock compete in the same race. Stock means stock BRP 16d motor and stock SC18 or Fun Won. Mod is everything else I guess, Big blocks, american arms, and 6 cells. I had my doubts if this would work (running both classes together) but it seems to work very well.

The other regular classes include touring cars and 1/12 scale on the road course with production, stock truck, 2wd stock on the oval.

you got it!

Pic 1: That's it

Pic 2: The Fan and the screws I used 9/16th of an inch screws there a little bigger around so I had to dremel the holes a little bit bigger.

Pic 3: I had to dremel the top motor plate so it was square to get more air in.
BTW RAFster are you coming on the trip to racers edge the 25th?

You can breath a sigh of relief...I won't be there. :D
Still out of work, so I can't afford the trip. I spent some money I was given at Christmas for the Classic Hangover race.

Thanks for sharing your experimentation with the fan and the photos.

How many CFM of air is the fan capable of and what is the voltage it is designed to operate at?

If it didn't cause problems with motor adjustment or removal I think I would suggest a small copper heat sink to be attached on the magnet sides of the can to help keep the magnets cooler. They are a large thermal mass that can serve as a heat sink for the motor, which causes temps to climb as heat of operation is added. With some small finned heatsinks attached to the magnet sides of the motor I think your fan would be more effective. If you try a clamp on design, then the thermal paste Ovalman suggested would be adviseable.

RAFster,

The HP of the fan is 120 and the MF is 4. It's a twelve volt fan that uses 0.20 of an amp

Thanks K1m :thumbsup:

Ovalman/PA , K1M
looking at the map and it seems it will be a 6-7 hr trip for us southerners, I'm thinking Monday off may be a safe bet with the drive or weather related problems. About what time do you finish up? Also what tire sauces can be used at your place?

Andy

Andy.......lately we've been finishing up between 4 - 5:30 depending on how many people we have. From the sounds of it, things might start taking a little longer though as we might have 1/12 scale starting up again. As for tire suace, we allow any kind you'd like to use. :thumbsup: Most use either Paragon or Paragon FX2 (my favorite).

Thanks, sounds like a vacation day :thumbsup:

How's this sound?

Racers Edge Winter BuRP Challenge

January 25, 2004 Racing starts at noon. Double points and Racer Bux

MORE INFO (http://www.racersedgerc.com/schedule.html)

Be There!!

Sounds good to me I will be working on my SC18 Pro Fun Won today I hope!!!!

sc18 PRO funwons???????? Bud, you didn't sell-out on the sc18 Pro for the trip to PA didja? :D

:D :D :D

It is done speed 300 and all. Will test the walls sunday. :eek:

Walls win!! But new car was good. can't wait till the 25th :wave:

Thats cool Bud, how about some spy pix?

Strange day at the races today. Normally I don't spend much time wrenching because I'm too busy running my mouth. Today I had trouble keeping the right rear wheel on my oval car. It came off the first qualifier, it came off again second qualifier....finally I replace the whole right hub and it held together for the main. Sugar Daddy has had a taste of that sweet big block power and I think he's hooked!
In stock oval we welcomed yet another new racer Mark, he's struggling alittle to get a full fuel tank, but a new charger will help that.
Coincidently I broke a hub center on my road course car and that wheel fell off too. That was a quick fix but a first for me. Ovalman was Da Man again on the road course, he's pretty darn smooth and was even able to avoid Canbquicks wrath which is more than I can say! :freak:
Canbquick is pretty smooth himself, and I can see a real battle heating up there.
Strange day indeed.....maybe it was a full moon or something....uhhh, don't go there!

Does that blue moooon ever shine on yooouuuu.............. :lol:

I keep trying to up that track record to give Bud something BIGGER to shoot for when he's here but things just aren't working out quite right. Had a great run going in the main today but a slip up with Canbquik and I figured the record was spoiled so I started dinkin off.............still ran a 33 so I guess I shouldn't have been dinkin around! Great raceday guys. I'm really liking BuRP road course.


-- Open BuRP - A Main --
Pos Car Laps time name id avg.mph
1 8 64 5:00.25 Kim Fortner 25 14.24
2 3 58 5:02.38 Shaun Powell 5 12.82
3 2 57 5:02.83 Laura Burrows S 12 12.58
4 0 57 5:04.46 Chris Burrows 9 12.51
5 7 55 5:04.12 Johna Simar S 3 12.08
6 4 52 5:03.45 Joy Fortner S 27 11.45
7 1 46 5:00.75 Mark Tilley S 20 10.22

-- Fun BuRP - A Main --
Pos Car Laps time name id avg.mph
1 5 33 5:09.33 Rick Morgan 1 9.46
2 0 30 5:08.50 Chris Burrows 11 8.62
3 4 29 5:01.45 Joy Fortner 28 8.53
4 8 24 5:13.08 Kim Fortner 26 6.79
5 3 19 3:36.03 Andy Eaton 16 7.80
6 9 18 5:10.67 Barb Morgan 2 5.14
7 1 8 3:06.62 Cody Seth 18 3.80
-- 6 --- DNS --- Logan Tilley 13 0.00

Hey Canbquik,

What was that site you told my dad about for batts. space batteries or something?

Hey Canbquik,

What was that site you told my dad about for batts. space batteries or something?

Andy.........not to but in but I imagine it was www.batteryspace.com I have some of their AA 2000s I'm running in radios and a pack for each of our BuRPs. They seem to be holding up well. Can't beat the price of 60 cells for $59.98. :thumbsup: I just got some of their 3000s to try in my Maxx next summer. Just a hint...........if you want to get some of their cells, check Ebay. I got the 3000s cheaper on Ebay than I could their site. ;) Look for a handle of All-Batterys I believe is what they use.

Ovalmanpa / k1m:
stock truck and stock touring car are they on rubber or foams?

Warbird: Foam tires work best on the carpet in both classes. I used to run purples & pinks in TC and greens or blues on the truck. The BuRPs seem to tend toward orange & blues. Hope your work can spare you that weekend, although LA sounds better than PA this time of year!

Ovalman, hope your batt's work well, the ones I got for Jerry were great out of the gate, but they petered off in a hurry!!!! :(

Warbird

I was runing slicks that I loaded With "love lotion"

Worked pretty good. But K1ms right foams are the way to go :thumbsup:

Ovalman, hope your batt's work well, the ones I got for Jerry were great out of the gate, but they petered off in a hurry!!!! :(

As long as they work better than the 1700s I was using last year I'll be happy. :)

how true, how true....... :D

I love the things people come up with! This was a SC18 that was on ebay the other nite. It had a rear swaybar and center shock, but it was not a PRO....dunno if it worked or not, but it's ingenious if nothing more!
Hope the pic works:
http://i9.ebayimg.com/02/i/01/26/3d/1e_1_s.JPG