Death,, You can use a 6-cell KSG battery tray on a Mac Attack.
I have done it. You will need to sand a few thousands off the battery
tray on the screw hole side. I think you will need to drill 1 new hole.
I used the 4-cell battery tray mounting plate for the Mac Attack to hold the KSG 6-cell tray.

If you have the battery monting plate, you just need the 6-cell tray.

I don't know the part #'s

Call Dale Benton at AAA Model Supply 1-423-323-1513
tell him what you want to do, he has the parts.

If your talking rear pod, bottom plate. It wont work.

Dan

What is the deal with the new one piece chassis? Some guys I race with ordered new chassis plates for thier cars & it was ordered with the same P/N as the old chassis plate but they got one piece chassis. Are they not going to make the slider any more? It doesn't make sense to just stop making them with out notice. Does anyone out there know what is going on? :confused:

I'm The Person That Order The Chassi. At The Lease The New One Peice Chassi Could Come With The New Transponder Mount. Would Like To Know If I Can Get The Two Peice Plat Still. :(

i wish i could get my hands on a couple of the solid chassis plates.. are you guys willing to sale them?i just want the solid chassis plate and thats it..
chris

Our track owner has them & is seeing about getting the slider chassis. I can check with him & see if he wants to sell them. You would most likely have to pay shipping though.

please if yo udont mind let me know how much and it will be shipped to 28677 address in Stateville NC
Thanks
Chris

I'll check with him but I probably won't know anything till Monday. Send me an email Monday & I'll let you know then. :wave:

What is the deal with the new one piece chassis? Some guys I race with ordered new chassis plates for thier cars & it was ordered with the same P/N as the old chassis plate but they got one piece chassis. Are they not going to make the slider any more? It doesn't make sense to just stop making them with out notice. Does anyone out there know what is going on? :confused:

They still make the slider chassis. It is the standard chassis if you order the kit.

The solid one piece chassis is prefered when you are running on a track with a lot of bank, particularly one you drive wide open (or nearly wide open). The slider chassis is the hot ticket on flat asphalt (somewhere you spend a lot of time off the gas) or carpet (where you need to really tune the weight).

Is there a different P/N for the slider chassis then? Because the P/N on the package matched what we ordered but it also matches the original P/N for the slider.

thanks for the help guys talked to andy got it all staighten out.pn is 1010for the two peice and 1080 for the one peice :thumbsup:

was wondering 2 questions #1 how many people have went to solid chassis for flat oval and with what sucsess.#2 can the ksg kit be purchased with solid chassis together thanks tim :wave:

was wondering 2 questions #1 how many people have went to solid chassis for flat oval and with what sucsess.#2 can the ksg kit be purchased with solid chassis together thanks tim :wave:


You should be able to buy the solid chassis in kit form sometime early next month.

so that means that a person has to wait a month 2 purchaced one i will tell my friend that thanks :wave:

I am looking for a set-up for 19turn and 4 Cell Mod. Can anyone help? I have seen many people ask but no return. I know that there is one on the 2nd or 3rd page. I still think that people are sitting on speed secrets.....

R. Dornseif, what kind of track are you running on??? I'll be glad to help you out with set-up questions.

Also, anyone who has emailed me questions over the last few weeks probably should try again, I have been out of it with moving back to school and stuff, it should be settling down a bit now.

Danny,
We are running on a 144' runline. The track is flat Fanfare carpet. I seen the setup that you posted early on. You mention the use of a red spring how long do you cut it down to? Thanks for the reply. Also what do you recommend for motors I have heard that the Kr 4 Magnet makes great choice? What is your feeling?

R. Dornseif,

I cut the spring to rough 1 or 2 coils less than a std buggy springs. If you are going to run mod it would probably be best to run three pinks and a black RF, possibly a gray LF is the car is too loose.

Motor wise, I haven't personally run any of the 4-mag stuff in my own car yet, I would try the epic based stuff before the KR. Or try regular standups and std comm with the KR can. The epic stuff should be a little more suited to oval racing, From what I have seen runtime is really hard to make with the KR if you put rip in the motor it will dump. I have had real good luck running a full D5 set-up recently. and the Ti stuff is always reliable.

Team Assoc. has two different rates on the Red buggy spring depending on if its a front or a rear. Which are you recommending?

hello heveryone :wave:
i was wondering if anyone has a ksg for sale a used one of corse if so would you plz let me know i would like to get a newer car before the roar reagon 5 race in lansing in october

Danny, I need help on a stock setup for the KSG. Ive seen plenty of 19, 0 and mod setups but i need something for stock. I am way to glued to the track and can't seem to free up the car.

Raceway1... :wave: buy a APEX :devil: :D

I'm no Danny but what are you running now? Also by free up do you mean just unstick the car or actually free it up, meaning loosen it up? I have had the problem in 19t with my car of turning too much and having to take lots of steering out of everything on the car. After that it was super fast though!!

ha ha ha Tony!!!

vwal.....Yes , car is just too stuck in the corners, here is what I am running...front end, LF black, green wolfe spring, 0 castor 1degree camber, RF black tire, green spring 2 degree castor 2 1/2 camber, running upper arms in the lowest hole also, center shock HPI 60 weight,silver hpi spring, 3rd hole up, side shocks 30 weight blue spring on left, gold on right, shocks on bottom hole, I have 10.5 on LR, running stock t plate, black tire on RR white on LR, offset pod, no rear steer but have .20 shim under front tplate ball. It seems the mod setup is too sticky for stock, at lest for me. I have another racer with a KSG, he is having the same trouble.

My car was very similar to what you are experiencing. I ended up where you are with the front tires for 19t, paired up blacks. But I had to go to a pair of pinks in the back. I also ended up with a purple RF spring and I know I am running more LR than that, I can't remember how much though. I also had to move the LR out farther than Danny B recommends. Actually I race with him weekly and he is the one that was tuning the car for me the first time out with it!! He wasn't racing that day and he would just sit at my table and tune things for me, it was nice!! I would maybe try centering up the pod? Also more LR weight, mine is over the 11.5 that Danny recommends I believe, not much but I think it is higher. Also throw some stiffer front springs at it. I don't know where the silver spring is compared to the red associated we run so I don't know where to go there. Also is the back end stuck too much or the front, it seems as though your front may be stuck too much, the car is steering too much, and maybe the rear isn't stuck enough to drive the car off the corner?? If that is the case maybe that black RR needs to be changed. I know guys around here run paired up whites in the rear but some also run paired up blacks back there too. This stuff may help but it may be way out in right field too!! Try some of it and see what happens, maybe Danny will come on here and tell me what I said is wrong or maybe most is ok. Later.

cool, I'll be testing this afternoon,I'll give it a try

leave everything right where u have it, and try a grey LF. that is the first thing i would do. actually, maybe even a green LF soaked in paragon. i always end up using a super soft Lf at Depot, Rob. BTW, vwal, the track is 24 X 70. the car needs every bit of steering it can get, but the back end needs to stick to get off the corner, esp. turn 2 by the scoring area :thumbsup:

I didn't know what the track was nor have I ever been there. It sounded to me the car was rotating too much and the softer LF will make it do that more. But I would trust him, he is real quick at my track too!!! Thanks for helping Scott.

another thing that will help the car turn: what is the rear axle spacing from the centerline out? i would run the car as wide in the rear as possible, even width on both sides to start. that will make the car turn, big time.

for KSG owners heres what I would reccomend you try ..... Run the following on any flat track .

front springs [red wolfe] with .015 preload
run the HPI center shock with a silver ASOCIATED center spring run 70 wt oil and a number 3 piston [ shock placement 3rd hole from bottom]

Run 30wt oil in the sides and a copper LR spring and a Red RR spring
run number 2 ride hieght adjustors and a FINSIHSLINE soft sprung steel t-plate run the shock 1hole from top so you can get the digressive srping rates this car needs to turn .....

TIRES --- all JACO size 2.22 Black RF Grey LF
WHite LR Grey RR

HD protoform Montecarlo
THUNDER wing mounted to the body

This is the setup that seems to work really well on most flat tracks ....

SRM :thumbsup:

Run full offset pod

steve, you're kidding me, right? maybe that's where my lap is!

guys..thanks for the help, I am going to try your suggestions, remember I am running STOCK

smrocket...your setup sounds like what I need, I believe I have too much side bite and this may be the ticket. I will gather the parts and give it a try.

Scott....thank you for your input as well, it is always welcome, by the way I tried emailing you the other day and it came back, have you changed your email address? I was trying to email you to tell you we will start our normal racing schedule this Thur Oct 2 nd. Hope you can make it.


keep up the suggestions it will help others too I am sure!


Rob Black
Depot Hobby Raceway

PCTOM , that is the dealio , the car has digressive spring rates so the car will lean over as far as possiable .....I had a Engineering friend of mine do the roll rate cauculations and the cars works with digressive rates and thats WHY they have to run offset pod to get the KSG car hookup.........

SRM :thumbsup:

steve, i'm right with you on the offset pod, tire compounds and dampning.... i'm just not sprung so stiff. i guess i'll have to give it a try.

when you say left rear shock do you mean the one on the battery side

SMROCKET.......what are you running for left rear weight with this setup?

ROCKET your setup looks awesome, I am going to the hobby store today to buy the items needed to complete the setup (springs, oil etc). How crucial is the soft T-plate? I have a medium spring steel T-plate....Thanks!! Steve.

Always glad to help with any cars setups.....

You could use a .063 tplate and use all 3 screws in the t-plate....

I have been running 12 to 12.5 ounces with this setup....

If you need the mod setup for flat tracks I could also post....

I am sure Danny Pinkie B will have a great setup for flat tracks also ...

SRM

is that what you were running saturday night???

I would love to here your Mod Setup Steve!!

BRENTP , the only things I change for mod is tires ..I run JACO 2,20 inch tires and a pruple RF and the rest PINKIES....DANNY b would be proud ...the other changes are as the track bite come up I roll back the castor to smooth the car out ..I also change the side springs to 2 black wolfe springs ..... SRM :thumbsup:

Thanks Steve, one more ??? though. Where are you running the battery tray on these setup's?

Thanks,
Brent Pearcy

Get out of here Bob Cole!!! :D

Rob,

no, same email addy as always..no idea why it bounced back? i am thinking of coming over the night of the 16th, if not the 9th. working on a totally new ride...it will be radically different:)

SMROCKET,

Do u mean the car is supposed to have a digressive spring rate? if so, that seems very unconventional, especially for flat tracks. how would that be an advantage? seems to me the car should be linear, at a min, in spring rate, otherwise the car would center too slowly on corner exit, among other issues.

The KSG car has digressive spring rates in the upper 2 holes.... I can tell you thisd it allows he car to roll over as much as it needs to turn ..... I also would think that a linear roll rate would be optimum but the KSG has had great track results..... The ADX car [2000 version] has progressive roll rate and the car gets tight as traction comes up ..We have fixed the problems with the new design ......SRM :thumbsup:

What about that battery tray position Steve? :wave:

Brent run the battery all the way out and .0150 forward from bottom plate.......SRM :thumbsup:

Sorry Steve, but I gotta ask. Do you mean .150 or .015. I don't think it will go back far enough for the .015, will it?

Brent, I bet he runs it .150, that is where most people do I believe. Also Steve, so what is the KSg in the bottom holes, progressive or linear?? Also how do you determine this? I am trying to understand all this stuff. Any help would be great thanks.

the amount of spring rate progression increases as the outer ball stud is lowered. conversely, as it is raised, the spring rate becomes less progressive, until it becomes basically linear. and, if you continue to move the outer ball stud up, it becomes digressive.

The lower the outer pivot hole the more progressive the roll rate become ..... SRM

I did mean .150 forward from bottom plate ...SRM :thumbsup: