aaa model has em'. thanks guys.

What are you guys running for track width front and rear? Also what does it do when you move the tires in and out? I believe that if you move the RR out the car will turn in better and if you move the LR out the car will tighten up coming off. Are these correct? How does that pertain to the front track width? Thanks.

Brian Anthony

What's up Brian? Good luck at the on-road nats.

You are correct about the rear track, we run our car from 8"-8 1/8" most of that comes from shimming the RR in and out for track conditions. Generally we leave the LR tucked all the way in on tracks with established bite.

For the front, Moving the RF out will take a little steering away and add a little from the middle off because you know have more leverage on the spring. I think moving the LF out again takes away steering turning in, you move the tire away from the center of the car is has less static weight. and once the wheels turn the LF castor will actually pick you up more weight with it out giving more turn off. That being said we have played with shiming the front tires in and out and basically concluded that it is a very fine tune adjustment and you most likely won't even feel it unless your car is really dialed.

later
danny b :wave:

danny. here is a question i havent seen the answer to, can you explain which tire should have the most traction. like for example, should the insides be a softer,(more grip) than the outside, because of the less wieght, as it transfers.

What's up Brian? Good luck at the on-road nats.

You are correct about the rear track, we run our car from 8"-8 1/8" most of that comes from shimming the RR in and out for track conditions. Generally we leave the LR tucked all the way in on tracks with established bite.

For the front, Moving the RF out will take a little steering away and add a little from the middle off because you know have more leverage on the spring. I think moving the LF out again takes away steering turning in, you move the tire away from the center of the car is has less static weight. and once the wheels turn the LF castor will actually pick you up more weight with it out giving more turn off. That being said we have played with shiming the front tires in and out and basically concluded that it is a very fine tune adjustment and you most likely won't even feel it unless your car is really dialed.

later
danny b :wave:

Thanks Danny.

Brian :thumbsup:

Anyone tell me the difference in the blue ones compared to the .063 straight and bias fiberglass ones, besides the color? Anyone have them in stock? Thanks

Mike, the blue material even though the same thickness has a slightly higher tensile strength. Therefore, you have 4 .063 solid t-plates but all slightly stiffer. Starting with the .063 45* bias - .063 straight cut blue

so is the softest blue stiffer than the straight fiberglass?

Hi guys, I just got hold of a pre-owned KSG One-piece chassis. I'am hoping that soemone will this thread and give a good starting point set-up for BMS oval in Blountville. I will be running ARCOR super spec class. I hope Andy Mc will read this and give a good set-up. Thanx :wave:

The setup for BMS is purple front springs the RF slightly preloaded,use medium dampening ..Castor is -4 RF and -2 LF the camber is -2 RF and +1.5 LF .....

the center shock is a HPI unit with 70etoil and a 25lb HPI center spring ///very important to use this spring so the car will not bottom out in the corner...

The rear of the car is 1 red and a gold side spring with the stiffer to the left rear .....

Run the wing to the body .the body of choice was the Bolink Monte Carlo ....I used a Protoform body and it was a little tighter ....

Ride Height is number 2s down in the rear and a .060 shims under the fornt end .....

This should get you in the ball park ...Good Luck and have fun on that track ....I loved it and will return this year for the 4th of July race ..SRM :tongue:

Hey Miller you're not coming to St-Rock this weekend??? There'll be 100 plus racers on hand at The Rock this weekend ...

Steve. :wave:

Thanx SMROCKET. Do you reccomend using the new left-toe corrector? How about t-plate, straight or biased, fibreglass or steel? Rearpod centered or offset? BMS will have the ARCOR TN state race this April 17th. I hope you can make it. If not, I will also be there in July 3 & 4 . Thanx once again :thumbsup:

Hi Racin Steve i will not be able to attend this year It comes at a bad time of year for me ...Belvie me I love th St Roche Race and wish it was in march instead of April.....Good lukc to you and your brother ...I am sure you are ready for the race....Say Hi to DaAnimal Sullivan for me ...


JEEPNY ...If you have your casotr block all the way up use the toe corrector ...I ran my pod offset for mod racing ... Run the .063 straight tplate ....April is out for me I will see you at the 4th of july race....SRM :eek:

Anyone else feel that the car is more agressive with higher roll centers (more angle to both A arms)? If so why do you think this is? I always thought lower roll center= more steering. This is on flat carpet tracks.

More camber gain in the corners. I notice flatter A-Arms give a quicker initial response but slightly less agressive cornering. when I run flat A-arms I usually will run a softer spring or less pre-load.

That sounds good because the car seems to be very sensitive to camber gain. Seems like one or two shims under upper A arm makes a huge difference.

what is the difference between straight & biased t-plate ? What does one do the others dont or vice versa? what will you recommend for hig-bank ovals like BMS ...will be racing in ARCOR super spec class ? Thanx

??? KSG front body posts ???

OK -- I have a mystery... I picked up a used chassis (eBay) and the front body posts are very trick. On person thought they might be from KSG...

the posts have a "fat" base that is hollow and tapped do that the actual body posts is sort of upside down and threads down into the base. to top of the body post is cut at an angle and has a hole for a body mounting screw that is also at an angle... These are not "home brew" -- they are clearly a manufactured product... It's a little hard to tell, but they DO seem to look like the front body posts on the pictures of the new chassis' on the KSG web site...???

Anyone recognize them from my poor attempt at describing them?

From the TRC disrupter...machined from delrin and until the KSG the best oval car made IMO...

Mr. Frahm,

the body posts i think you're referring to are made by Track Attack. they are nice, indestructable. of course, nothing beats drilling and tapping right into the black cobra style body mounts. that is the lightest option.

seadooo21 -- thanks! now I just need to find a hobby shop that carries 'Track Attack'... I couldn't find a web site for them...?

Lakes Region RC or Big Dog RC in the site sponsors.They both carry them.

Hey Tom, Gene carries track attack stuff. I beleive it is MSA's line of products. :wave:

Hmmm... The pictures of the Track Attack front body posts (on Lakes Region RC site) show that they are aluminum... the ones I got are all nylon... ????

I think mayem is right from the picture they look just like the ones that came with my disruptor.I havn't seen any one make these anymore.If you don't want aluminum the Darkside body mounts aren't bad there delrin with theaded inserts and you adjust height with plastic washers.I still think the track attacks are the best they keep the body real stiff no flopping around. :cool:

Is the deal at the chassis like a Trinity mount? If it is then they are from Raceway MFG. Other than that I wouldn't know what they are from....

www.msaracing.com

Cory -- it's sort of the Trinity UPSIDE DOWN... the big part is on the bottom, and the top part is just a 1/4" rod with theads on the bottom to thread into the base, with a predrilled hole in the top for the body mounting screw...

Also -- I realize I've gone "off topic" here -- sorry....

Who has a KSG for sale???

Did you look in the swap and sell?? Also Murdock has some new kits on the way in I read. Maybe start there.

I just ordered one from Murdock.From what Rob told me he should have kits in on Tuesday.

Danny B whats your best guess on which t-bar would be best at the Tri-Clone?

I do have kits on the way. At this time there is one slider, and two solid chassis kits left. I have chassis in stock for both so if one sells out and you want the other I can swap chassis in the kit for you.

What no KSG cars at ARCOR race?

Ziggy, tq'ed and won open mod with Greg Honeycutt and i think Frank Peachock got third( that would be a sweep of the top 3) Ritchie McDonald had a really good car in 19t not sure where he ended up in the overall, things got a little blurred with all the paint swapping in the last two mains.

As for my car it still has not come back from lunch.

Bob W, we are going to start with a .063 3/8 slot fiberglass. If the traction is good enough we might try a med-soft spring steel.

Thanks Danny, boy it sounded like no one was there on some of the other threads! Will you start with the max pre load on center shock with a green spring as in the past for the Tri-Clone?

Mike,

We will probably start with the standard stuff. Green RF Spring, Red LF, Olive sides, Green Buggy spring pre-loaded up good. Long wheelbase, off-set pod. Hard to say for sure without running first but moving the batteries in 1/4-1/2" always seemed to work well there.

BTW, there were 96 cars at the ARCOR race. about 70 if you just count stock, 19t and mod.

bumps

Anyone know where there might be sway bar kits in stock?

Hi Mike try AAA hobby in TENN.....


SRM

Mike I ordered some from BigDogRC this morning.According to their website they have them in stock,you'll pay a little more than Murdock though.

What length shock shaft are you running in your center shock and which mounting holes are you using for the shock mount?

my friend is looking for new a ksg car,any ideas ? thankyou

Yep! I got one, buy a Hyperdrive.

if you don't mind running second

Try Murdock R/C link on this page for new kit

Iv been running a KSG on a large flat track with Black Ozite...Been running Black fronts..white rears....Wanted to try 3 pinks and a purple...Is this overkill for 19T..
also...was thinking of putting on a front swaybar....what can I expect with a swaybar?
when would you use one?

BUD , I have LIl petes setup if you would like to try it in 19turn ......PM me if you need it ...SRM

Iv been running a KSG on a large flat track with Black Ozite...Been running Black fronts..white rears....Wanted to try 3 pinks and a purple...Is this overkill for 19T..
also...was thinking of putting on a front swaybar....what can I expect with a swaybar?
when would you use one?
I have been running 3 pinks and a black with good results in 19T. And i have found that with a front swaybar I have to go one to two steps softer on front springs.

my 2 cents
jason jackson

Most oval carpet guys have figured out that 3pinks and either a black or purle RF is the way to go .....You will find 1. they are faster and 2 they last forever ....very little wear....I take 3 sets to big races and just rotate the tries to keep them from Gumming up ..... SRM

what has everyone been running for tires in stock?

I usually run BSR white LR, gray RR, white LF, gray or silver gray RF
in stock.