I decided KSG makes the best car out there! Now if only you could buy parts....

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Where are you trying to buy parts from? I have had little problem getting what ever I needed.

Out shop is trying to get them for the Assoc. Open and the ROAR Nats from KSG and they said "we have nothing to send". I just need a bumper right now. :(

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Have you tried any other places? I just got a new bumper last week from a guy around me. I am sure you can get about anything you want if you check around.

http://www.aaamodel.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=AMS&Category_Code=KSG2

what swat bars is every one running? :confused:

swat bars??? ;) i'm using a .070....the 'birds track was a tough gauge as to it's impact. at club shows i've run it and gone one spring softer up front. i haven't seen backflip type gains....but i also haven't had much time to play with it either. it's user preferance at the moment..but talbot seemed good with his in florida and knoxville....then again talbot could mount his body backwards and be alright.
dusty kemp

There's a couple of guys that run locally that bought KSG cars bailed on them since the shops and distributors can't get any parts for them. I believe they are still for sale if anyone wants to use them for parts cars...
If interested, email me and I'll try to put you in touch with the owners...

Getting parts from KSG is not a problem in the northeast ...I know of at least 3 hobby stores that carry every part and keep getting restocked every week.....

T to the P to bad for those guys ... They are missing out on a car that can make an average guy like ME make the biggest mains[SNOWBIRDS] for the year....I have no real claim to fame but the car works so well and the setups are shared by all TEAM members and non members [averagejoes like myself] to make our racing better....


I had only been running the car for a few weeks and the car is the best turning car on the market today ...


SRM :wave:

they sell parts for those cars?

SRM: I agree, the KSG cars are great cars. But it's no use to the locals who pay full nut for their stuff that have broken cars and haven't been able to get parts in months.
Please post the shops that are getting parts in the Northeast, so I can pass it on to these guys.
The (3) Local shops here are:

-Competition Hobby Supplies
-Racing City Hobbies
-Hobbytown USA

None have had parts for months, and all claim that their distributors are out of stock and can't get anything from Andy and Jim...

Even Buuuurrrrhart at Competition Products can't get anything. All he's been able to ship the local shops here is hubs,(no offset hubs though) the front bump steer bracket for the LF steering block, and (1) sway bar kit. This is all that was available through normal hobby distrbution prior to the 'Birds.
Many were turned off when I had stated that KSG had to have parts available, since right before the 'Birds Eric Anderson had just got (2) kits, Talbot rec'd (3) kits, and Ziggy and Pete rec'd kits/parts as well. The reason being is they still can't get parts, but the team guys are getting kts, parts, etc.
So please post who has this stuff in stock, and help your sponsor and these racers clear up this issue... Thanks SRM! :wave:

Fountain: Based on your post, I'm guessing you guys aren't one of the shops that has parts either? :confused:

Get Hold Of Dr At Msa He Has Been Able To Get Some Parts.

the 3 hobby shops are Trains and Lanes Easton Pa 1-610-2538850

Fountain RAceway in Rochester
Thunder Road in Limmerick Pa ....

I have seen the stock at FOUNTAIN and these guys had everthing KSG makes ...

TRAINS and LANES was getting 5-7 cars weekly to sell as well as parts ie Bumpers,Graphite,Aluminum etc.....

Hope this helps anyone who needs KSG stuff

On another note Murrdock and AAA model supplies have stock shipped to them on a weekely basis ......

SRM :devil:

Just to clear a few things up, KSG makes things as fast as they can to fulfill distributor requests. Andy does the majority of the work by himself: Jim comes in after a full day at his 9-5 job and works a few more hours in the shop and a couple guys come over to help with packaging, tapping parts when they can. Again you have to realize they make virtually every single part for the car with the expeption of the shocks and front end parts. For example, the center shock requires 7 material movements to make, then has to have 7 tapped holes, then anodized. Secondly from a business end, which would you put priority on getting 50 kits to a distributor or a few bumpers and other misc parts? And another thing don't put in a big order and expect to have it overnight(mainly putting in an order one week before snowbirds and expect to get anything) I wouldn't expect this from any company especially the smaller R/C companies we all deal with.

If you are really in need of a front bumper you could find a racetech or hyperdrive one and it will bolt directly to a KSG chassis.

P.S. Why is everyone so whiny these days? Has our society gone to such extremes that everything gimmie and gimmie now or i'll blast your ass on the internet?? I remember 5 or 6 years ago when i would wait 4-6 months like everyother skull to find out what happened at big races. Now we got dudes wanting to know who is fast in practice? "we talking about practice man, not a game, practice!" I think it is pretty crappy the way we treat some people involved in this hobby, whether it be manufactors, Sanctioning bodies or fellow racers.

YOU TELL THEM DANNY-B :thumbsup:

Where can I get them? I need a chassis. I am still running the broken one from the regionals in december. It is nice to have a spare bumper too.

www.ksgmotorsports.com call or email Andy, i am sure they will help you out.

Right on Danny!

When you make a product that is that good, demand will be high. The design and product quality are second to none and it got that way through countless hours of development and attention to detail.

In any business, when you introduce a product that the market views as significantly better than all competition, there is a demand curve that is very predictable. It starts with the introduction and if successful, moves to "pipeline" fill. Once the supply chain or "pipeline" is satisfied then you move into market stabilization. The duration of this phase is primarily driven by the degree to which new and better technology is being developed and introduced. Once technology advances beyond your product then you move into market decline and ultimately product discontinuance. One of the fundamental mistakes small business owners make in the US is misreading pipeline fill for actual demand in a mature market. They go out and ramp up capacity investing in capital and people to be able to 100% serve the market as they have misread it. They ride the wave thinking life is great then whammo, they hit the beach. Once the market stabilizes they no longer have the demand flow to support the equipment and staffing and find themselves in a situation where they cut back the staff and either sit on sunk capital hoping for a spike or they start selling off the capacity. A prudent business man will base all his plans on the sales levels anticipated at the mature point and do everything possible to meet the surge demand of the pipeline fill.

Jim and Andy and the whole family are doing everything possible to keep up with the explosion of demand for their product without sacrificing the quality. :thumbsup:

Danny, i need help understanding a few things. i just bought a ksg,and am looking through setups....

1: what does offset accomplish in regaurds to traction?
is it really worth 50+bux to convert?


2: i see most run rear track at like 7-7/8ths... mine is 8.5???
if you off set and get the longer right hub and 1/2 inch left, will that take away 5/8 of a inch?

I bought enough parts to build a second spare car from AAA.

Nobody out here on the West Coast has a good supply of anything for anybody's oval car. Showtime and Hot Rod try, but I've been both places and had to beg, borrow, and steal stuff to put cars back together.

Now, I just call AAA and carry my own inventory.

You guys who have a local hobby shop or run AE cars have it easy. I used to run a JRX-2 when nobody had one, and just got used to carrying my own spares, I guess.

Slim1, for me I feel off-set really keeps the weight planted on the LR. Most people will tell you the KSG car turns really hard. I think KSG or Hyperdrive cars made to turn on caps benefit from the off-set pod on foams because they will be more aggressive. If i were to run a L4 or assoc. based cars I probably run centered. I think it is a good investment but it might be worth trying first depending on you local track, centered pod might be just fine. As far as rear track width, mine runs between 8-8 1/4" depending on conditions. I think with the 1/2" LR hub and Off-set RR hub and both tires in as far as they will go you will get 8" or just under.

I really wish there was a tuning guide that told you about side shock angle,center shock angle,oil weight,spring compounds,putting more shock preload on center shock,lengthining center shock!What all these adjustments are for!I love my ksg car but they give you all these options but they dont give you a setup guide on what the adjustments are for!Or is there a KSG Forum that shows other ksg setup and discusses set ups and what they do!

http://www.hobbytalk.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=309&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

it gives some of my thoughts about side shocks anyway

On your front tires, greys and blacks, what durometer numbers do you look for??? Thanks..

help with setup question. i am going to redfox rceway this weekend. it is a tight carpet oval, bbanked. i have only ha this car for two races. bothe were flat tracks. i don't have the offset hubs yet. tires, springs, ect. thank you in advance.

Hey Wheel, at Glens Falls I run grey fronts white rears, I think
they are about 37 fronts, 32 rears. Once in a whille I will
try a black RF there but it never works there...I always end up
with grey fronts white rears. Hey man if you ever need
help there I would be more than happy to help!!!

i forgot something 4-cell stock

Geez,that sounds soft for the front, but you're a friggin' rocketship there so it's definitely working your way... what are you using for front springs???? Do you goop fronts that soft??? Saturday I ran old bsr blues, 30, on the back, and blues on the front, 38 left and 57 right..that was pretty hard, usually run around a 48-50 blue on right, I don't have any grey fronts, have run white rears before, have some black fronts, around 45-48, never tried them, maybe this week..

I goop all but about 1/4" outside the right front. Regular green springs.
48-50 is pretty hard for right front on a flat track, my opinion. I like to
get as much traction as possible without binding up the car. I've
actually only had the problem with to much bite at one track, K/N where
with a white RR it looked like I was hammerin on the brakes in the center of the turn, grey RR was a ton better, still not hard enough though. I have some grey fronts if want to give them a whirl.

Tommygun: I think:

(all TRC's)
LF:black
RF: dbl blue
LR: grey
RR: black

may work well at KN for 19t/stock.

or 3 greys and a blue RF for 19t may also work. (all Jaco)

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Yeah I'd pay for a tuning guide. I have been very "lucky" with set ups. I guess I would rather be lucky than good anyday...On another note, I have a KSG and I am happy to report this is the hardest turning car I have ever driven. I pull 3 ft. on every other car in the corners, totally AWESOME!

After being out of RC racing many years, due to RC Speedway here in Omaha NE closing down and my going back to the Army. Now that Hobbytown has finally built a permanent track in town, which is long over due. But I guess better late than never. I'm wanting to get back in to oval racing. Years ago I was racing a Composite Craft Lynx Predator II, loved the car, but can't seem to find it anywhere, must have gotten stolen. Probably a good thing as technology has change so me. I was looking at getting a RC10L4, but after reading these posts and the comments, I'm leaning towards the KSG. Now I just have to go out and buy one. Which is better, the solid or slider chassis? Thanks in advance.

The slider/solid chassis is a personal preference thing, I know some guys who like the solid, slider does seem to be more popular though.

i'm far from being all knowing... but i use the slider chassis on the new omaha track.. and am very happy.. if any questions.. or setups to get you started LMK..

cowboy :thumbsup:

Hey Cowboy, I will let you know as I will probably need lots of help in the setup of this car. Now I just need to go out and get one.

Yeah I'd pay for a tuning guide. I have been very "lucky" with set ups. I guess I would rather be lucky than good anyday...On another note, I have a KSG and I am happy to report this is the hardest turning car I have ever driven. I pull 3 ft. on every other car in the corners, totally AWESOME!

THE NAME SAYS IT ALL >>>XCS<<<< Extreme Corner Speed

Iam a convert myself.....switched from ADX to KSG Solid Chassis.

Danny B,

As I am patiently waiting for my new KSG slider to get here, i was wondering what a good baseline setu pwould be for Vinton, running 19 turn 'nothing' degree. any thoughts would be greatly appreciated :thumbsup:

Hey....Mobile Mike...How the heck did you become an elder statesman....
You dont even have a drivers lic.........

Scott, Are you coming to our Saturday night race this weekend??

Scott, I'll add you to my list of things to do! I'll try to shoot you an email today or tomorrow.

Raceway1,

most likely no. i think i need to get over to Vinton to get some track time before the 2 day race there. i was hoping to get my KSG before this weekend, but it doesnt look like that will happen. oh well, guess i will give the 0700 one last spin. at least i can test 19 turn 0 deg. motors out....

rcavenger, phil had one on his shelf last time I raced with him, might want to get a hold of him about one!!!

This thread is long i have not read every page so dont yell at me.

Does anyone have any set ups for flat asphalt tracks??

from the reading i have done i see carpet and high banked set ups. We run alot of parking lot races in central FL.

I use my KSG for carpet and my L4O for asphalt. I have ran the KSG on asphalt and it is just realy easy to get loose. I have tried so many set ups i cant even list them all. I soften the rear shocks and/or add wedge make it push like a truck. Then try to back it up to make it turn then loose loose loose.

After a few weekends of this I gave up and just use if for carpet where it beats my L4O hands down.

anyone know who has the offset hubs in stock? i would like to have them for this weekend. thanks...

Did you try Murdock?

Murdock, AAA Model Supply, LeftHander....

i just bought 1 off a guy at the track, wasnt a KSG, but still a 1/2 inch hub. and for the right side i just spaced it out. i have to run the pinion at the end of the shaft, but makes it easy to oil the bushings lol.

i tried murdock.mia i guess i'll hit up lefthander.

no luck @ lefthander they don't stock chasis parts.