I hear ya dave someone had to have donated under the table for the track and it could not have cost 10,000.00 might be worth that but it couldnt have been paid out that there no way in hell (me being self-employed) that I would spend that much without justifing it(By not trying to promoting being rude not caring etc...).Solution is so simple all of us r/c racers not show up for two weeks then we can really see whats what.There rude, I went in there to buy some stuff(sunday) and I felt like my money was nothing,I couldnt buy a smile in there.

never happen tim there are a few die hards that will be there every week because they just want to drive there toy car.


New92 you have pm

bryan and all others I have said this before tTHEY DON'T CARE AND NEVER WILL. if it is aftermarket they don't carry it. even for the t-maxx they don't carry shat. they just don't care. hell they hired Rob and Dave Kennedy

for the guys that just want to race, come to branford. great group of racers, great hobby shop with owners that enjoy racing also. parts for all the cars, if thay don't have it they will get it and also start stocking it. i don't know how ya'll put up with it. so just come to branford, and i bet you will be back. if not look forward to meeting all you guys in daytona

i would love to come up to branford but I race touring cars so my only other option is once a month on the rug @ rpm but thanks for the invite

I am with Dave P on that one. Even though I have only raced 3 times I am hoooked lol. And it is hard enough waiting a week between races let alone a month . But I do want to go to Orlando soon. We really need another track around here for variety and just to give some competition to HW powers that be.

Posted By parrott88: great hobby shop with owners

I have to agree that Scott is proably one of the best shop owners I have dealt with,just like Parrott88 said he has a huge selection of oval parts for alot of aftermarket oval cars also and if he don't have it he will
get it for ya.
The racers in Branford are some of the greatest I have ever raced
with,if you need help,there is always a helping hand from a fellow racer,
if you need a part, a racer there will usually have it so you can race and
have FUN.
I usually pit out of my trunk of my car,but the other racers will let me use their scales,lathes,dynos,etc.Great guys/girl.
I have not hit the lottery so I don't have a
trailor yet. :tongue:


Kevin's RC Oval Site/Branford RC Speedway (http://www.kevinsrc.tk)

For information, Art Hobby Shop in Neptune beach has some TC3 and Losi parts hanging on the wall out there, I was there this past Saturday looking around. Just thought I let everybody know.

As far as Exxtreme R/C on Beach Blvd. It is near the Memorial Hospital Heli-pad, It sits diagonally across from it, next to the old gator stuff store, for those who know where that was. I will get their number this week and post it for everybody.

new 92 you have pm

I wonder how much you all really want to change R/C racing in Jacksonville? You can do something about it, but it takes a commitment. I don't think anything will change at Hobby World just because you stop racing there or stop buying from them. The amount of stuff they sell to racers is quite small compared to the rest of their product line. Just look at the amount of space they allocate to it.

From my perspective, you can put up or shut up. Get together as a group and do something about it. I know that the club thing hasn't worked in a long time around here, but it has worked in other places. You could even do R/C co-op. Most suppliers require a 3,000 to 5,000 dollar initial order.

Dave is right, there is a group that races at Hobby World that is quite content with the way things are.

All the griping about things at Hobby World is getting old. I say put up your time and money to do something about it or shut up and race. To sit around and say this really makes me mad does no good with out giving a solution.

-John Meadows
john@meadowz.com

John and Dave is right, we the racers need to make a change or try to change things the best we can.

Any Idea's let hear them?

Yea, just skipping a week or 2 isnt going to do anything. I dont see them complaining when everyone was gone to the Birds or it rains. If there were another close by track to offer any kind of competition then things would be different I am almost positive. The same way that they have a lock on business on this side of town. No competition. I actually would go to Autohaus more often to pick up quick things because it was a LOT closer to home and I hate Blanding traffic.

sorry to say it man but Autohaus is closed. right on John I hear what you are saying.

yea thats why I used the past tense

=P

guys listen they dont care they never have and never will.i have raced there since 97,they were the same then and dont care.it will never change.did they complain when we all raced cpt and no one raced there?no they didnt.it doesnt mater to them.if anything is gonna get done we the racers will do it till something else opens up.most of us just want to race with all the bull----!bear

So I guess that there isn't much of Friday night touring crowd at Hobby World these days?

Over the last few pages I've read nothing that wasn't posted about 8 months ago. The lighting still sucks, that's part of the mystique... yea that's it. :) I need my fix weekly so I'll have to do with what I've got for now. Even with all this we still get 20 - 30 racers every Friday. Imagine what a well run/organized/funded program could do.

Nothing will change. I have known HW for along time . They have always been this way and have been in business 4-ever. For some reason no hobby shop has ever stayed here for long. We always end up at HW spending our money. I think to form a union or club (whatever) vote a president and have him and HW working things out is the only real solution. If they don't want to listen then everyone pitch in buy pipe find a parking lot and go race. What sucks the most is they know none of this will happen and we'll all be there Fri. handing them more money to race IN THE DARK!
2-cents

oh and does anyone have a trinity pro spec car they want to sell. looking for a low price lefty car..lol

So I guess that there isn't much of Friday night touring crowd at Hobby World these days?


J. There has been a pretty good touring car turnout lately comparitively speaking. There is always enough to run but not always enough to run both stock and 19t so everyone just plays it by ear as to what class to race. There is a touring car thread in the onroad section here. Oh yeah, sorry I mispronounced your name at the last carpet race. :devil: My bad. Sundays are still better for racing as far as my opinion goes. The sun makes much more light than any incandescent light ever will.

Hey Shawn or George, When am I gonna get my name on the new unofficial website as the 4c stock record holder? I want my 15 minutes of fame and I want it now. :eek: Actually guys if y'all haven't looked at Shawn and George's work your missing out on it. You guys are doing a great job.

Hi dave!!

Hi dave!!
WWWaaaasssuuupppp? Jess'ay

Thinking aoubt what John had mentioned earlier on this thread. Would there be 10 guys who would be willing to make a commitment and form a R/C co-op? This way the expense is spread to the 10 involved, about 300.00 a piece. It might soud like alot, but considering how much we have in these little cars now, 300.00 is a drop in the bucket, right?
This way we could be the ones in contol of what goes on by listening to the racers also. Is there any other thoughts on the matter, lets hear them, ok?

Henry

oh and does anyone have a trinity pro spec car they want to sell. looking for a low price lefty car..lol

I have a 10LSS rolling chassis. I used to run two oval classes at the old Arlington track, so I always had two cars to prepare. I'll bring it Friday if your interested.

BTW it still has four capped tires not the foamy things. LOL

Eugene

If your looking for a LTO (left turn only) I got and old 10LSS and a Hyperdrive, dont ask which modle the Hyperdrive I can't remember what one it is, sorry.

i think whatn John was trying to say was he has a hole bunch of carpet doing nothing.

Would the 10lss be good a HW

Would the 10lss be good a HW

That's what I used my first time back and currently using now for pro-spec. I just added the battery holders and has more adjustment than the trinity street spec.

shu 99 you have pm

Henry, we should form a club first and see how that works out. If its successful and enough members stay active, then we could upgrade the club to a co-op. I think a decent sized club with a solid membership could work with HW to really improve the hobby here in Jax. But, we can't go in there with a chip on our shoulder. We need HW as partners, not as adversaries.

Dave Thanks check PM's

Check out the Ormond Track tread. Pic of the track available

David, give me the numbers so I can update. I still haven't got all the time sheets from the last race in order to post, so I havne't worked on it. Nice run by the way. you missed 32 by, mm's!! if that bump wasn't there in 3 and 4 you would have had it easy.
email me at shawnleary@comcast.net with those pics too that you had of the dirt action.

rcgen, what is the link for the Ormand Beach track? TIA.

Henry, we should form a club first and see how that works out. If its successful and enough members stay active, then we could upgrade the club to a co-op. I think a decent sized club with a solid membership could work with HW to really improve the hobby here in Jax. But, we can't go in there with a chip on our shoulder. We need HW as partners, not as adversaries.


While I think a club can work at HW 3 things come to mind. 1 does HW want a club??? 2 do the other racers that never use this board want a club??? 3 who is going to run it???

the problem with a club is the comitment it takes from it's officials. while FCCR wasn't a club it took alot of time from me and john. I see someone starting a club making the rules then it falling off.

Like Dave says it takes time out of your life to run a club .If there were small yearly dues then the people running it or elected to run it for that year should do what they want with the dues. Some should go to better the club and some they should keep for their time. I would pay to be in a club that takes care of alota B.S. that needs to be delt with.

I saw that pic of the Ormond track. Anyone want to venture down there this Saturday? I'm up for it. Fresh asphalt, well lit. Sounds like something we deserve here in town and not 1.5 hours away. Jacksonville deserves and can support a track like The Grove (http://www.hobbystop.com/center.htm) up in Rock Hill, SC. Click on the VIDEO link at the top in green letters and turn up your speakers... its sweeeeeeet.

rcgen, what is the link for the Ormand Beach track? TIA.
http://daytona-rc.homeip.net/index.html

i think it can work but it takes time

I found a spec car by the way thanks to the guys that replied to my post earlier. Now I need to get with Mr. Butts to make it go fast..

David Butts you have a PM

I found a spec car by the way thanks to the guys that replied to my post earlier. Now I need to get with Mr. Butts to make it go fast..


Calling me Mr. will get you none of my help you little whipper snapper. :tongue: What you need to do good in pro-spec is the three M's. Marlowes handling, Malins motors and My steel toed shoes in front of the other cars :cool:

I saw that pic of the Ormond track. Anyone want to venture down there this Saturday? I'm up for it. Fresh asphalt, well lit. Sounds like something we deserve here in town and not 1.5 hours away. Jacksonville deserves and can support a track like The Grove (http://www.hobbystop.com/center.htm) up in Rock Hill, SC. Click on the VIDEO link at the top in green letters and turn up your speakers... its sweeeeeeet.

Sounds interesting but don't know yet...Trying to find out the different classes running

Calling me Mr. will get you none of my help you little whipper snapper. :tongue: What you need to do good in pro-spec is the three M's. Marlowes handling, Malins motors and My steel toed shoes in front of the other cars :cool:

That's all it takes...and I've been racking my brains thinking its the 1600 batteries, the spec motor and brushes. :jest:

A club would be good but, (no offense Dave) (notice no double tt in the word either). I agree with Dave P. I dont think HW would want it either. We do need them (HW) as a "partner" and not an adversary. As far as a club I would be willing to support it paying dues or what ever. Clubs come and go in this area, the interest is there. New people need to be brought in also to keep in going. A good example would be to set up at the Prime Osborne the first weekend in March. At this late date I dont think they (the promoters) would have any room for a group running R/C cars at the show unless somebody had a connection to the show who might be able to get some space down the to put the rug down and run it for 3 days. That would be nice! Granted its only an idea.

Any other thoughts on the subject?
Henry

I don't think a club for the racers will benefit from this, Hobby World owns the track,so I am assuming if you guys start a club Hobby World
would laugh at ya :lol: .A club member will not give you permission to hire and fire employees,nor does this mean you will get the keys to the track..Nothing there will change...
Just my opinion,everyone wants to throw out $300 a year to be a club member,why don't the drivers get together and buy some pipes :thumbsup:

$300 X 20 racers = $6000 big ones for some pipes,or better yet a new track... ;)

Kevin's RC Oval Site/Branford RC Speedway (http://www.kevinsrc.tk)

our track is a club owned track and it works great. but the unless hw gave the club total control of the operation of the track it wont work.

Donnie

I saw that pic of the Ormond track. Anyone want to venture down there this Saturday? I'm up for it. Fresh asphalt, well lit. Sounds like something we deserve here in town and not 1.5 hours away. Jacksonville deserves and can support a track like The Grove (http://www.hobbystop.com/center.htm) up in Rock Hill, SC. Click on the VIDEO link at the top in green letters and turn up your speakers... its sweeeeeeet.



WOW :eek:

I would buy an oval car in a heartbeat if we had a track like that lol. Touring course looked a little tight for my abilities right now but....hey it owuld make me a better driver lol.


That track is pretty amazing. Another nice one is http://www.tfbraceway.com/tracks.html
has indoor carpet...outdoor asphalt...and off road and all 3 are very nice. I am going to go visit some relatives in Atlanta for a week or 2 this summer and probably hit the tracks a few times each.

-Eugene

I am all for a club too but like they said I dont think it will change anything at HW. It would get things better organized....prizes to attract new people to race maybe? and possibly one day find a new location for a track. But I dont think anyone needs to go spend a ton of money right now on finding space for a new track until they know the commitment is there.

I do think something that would do very well here though is another shop with an oval, touring track, and off road track all on the premises. Then you have the off road crowd running...the oval guys...and the TCers....all of the possibilities for crossovers, etc. All of those guys buying T-maxxes could go out back to putter around the track then see some of the on road people running and say Wow that looks like fun!

More people is almost always a good thing. Plus I really want to start running my XXX-NT again too lol.

If i had 30 racers that would pay 30 dollars club dues a month(If was a fifth we would all be drunk lol). I would buy or rent a buildg and put a oval and roadcourse carpet track up and have someone run it (work schedule of mine has limits).The 30 will include racing fees and practicing anytime were open remember just a thought.I think like dave mentioned if will fade from time to time that could be a issue :wave: