Joemama- If the wire that was "donated" for the lights is 18 guage,there's a bunch of it left over in the driver's stand. I'll have to check the guage.
-George

Are the regular bunch of sunday'ers going to the track today? I may ride out later. Got some things to do around here(imagine that). Anybody up for a road trip to branford on one of our off sundays? Its about an hour and a half or so away so its not really traveling. I won some new caps on e-bay so I'm stocking up on those little rubber go fast wonders.

We are running this Sunday 1-11-03.We have rebuilt the drivers stand with a roof on it,painted the pit tables,patched the bumps in the track,and even cut down the dead winter grass.:p
I am guessing,but we should have about 20, 4 cell stock racers Sunday.:)
No ROAR membership required,$10 entry fee(each class).:thumbsup:
The shop will be open during raceday..We also run 4 cell Nastruck,fun class,all you have to do is through a Nastruck body on with the spoiler attached..
For any further info contact Scott @ (386) 935-0758 or scottshobbies@alltel.net

You can check out the pictures of the new drivers stand at my website www.kevinsrc.tk

I'm heading to the track today with Jason, and Greg. See ya there.

[QUOTE=rcovalracer]We are running this Sunday 1-11-03.
I am guessing,but we should have about 20, 4 cell stock racers Sunday.:)

Hmmm? Traffic, I like driving with traffic,Especially on a tight track, Its kinda like the old dirt oval days. But we also should be running up here on sunday the 11th and since I was pushing for sunday racing I feel obligated to race here unless the weather looks bad and it looks better over there. :cool:

Hey David,
Looks like I can go out and play next Sunday, is HW going to run 4-cell stock? if not were the heck is Branford ? I gotta go race soon and Friday at HW is out for me again ( I am beginning to dislike my employer in a really big way) so Sundays it for me till the carpet race!
Long Lost Lee :lol:

Lee The 4c stock class is totally dependant on whether or not enough cars show for it. Its on the list of classes to be run. I myself have been bitten by the 19t bug. A 7.0 lap is not much faster than an 8.0 on a watch but on the track its a whole lot more fun. Now that estimated 6.4 I ran friday night, Oh my was that fun! We are supposed to be racing this coming sunday so unless the weather is like it was two weeks ago, we'll be racing, Daytime is really fun to race at the big track. Now as far as Branford goes I can get you to the city and I think I know where to turn once you get there. Its been posted on here as well as their thread too. They are saying its a cap tire only track due to the surface.

you guys should really try to make it over to Branford this Sunday. I think Kevin's estimate is low by 10 drivers in stock. I think we are looking at more like 30 because the GA gang is bringing about 8 drivers. It will be nice to put some faces with the names. We are making a 4 hour trip so your drive is nothing. If you can't make it we will be in Jax the end of the month. I have one C2 about 4 ARCOR 19t and several C1's. Out of all of that maybe I can find something legal to run.

Looks like the C-2 is the winner,if you decide to run at hobby world!! :thumbsup:

you mean the c2 is allowed but the c1 is not? That makes no sense, the spec on the motor is the same, the can is the only difference and the timing is locked @ 24 deg. If I was running stock over there I bet I could run a monster horsepower or a green machine 3 and no one would care. Not trying to stir the pot, just a question

I bet that at this time everyone will run a C-2 if you race at HOBBY WORLD,if I am not mistaken you have asked this question before.Personnaly I do not care if we ran arcor type motor.But again they only allow C-2 19t motors!! :wave:

I understand that but the c1 is not the ARCOR motor it is the chamelion that was produced before the chamelion2 both are epic cans by trinity and have locked timing and laydown brushes one is just older than the other

except the c1 can be twisted because it doesn't have a locked arm. they had problems with that is the past from what I have been told so the c2 is the motor. and since the hobby shop doesn't carry tuned motors from companys like fantom putnam or kisby they keep the rule as a c2 only

So I can't run a Kisbey, I have to go buy a C2? plus foams,roar membership,entry fee... And the list keeps growing....:rolleyes:

And rcovalracer you and any one else has a choice.You can either follow their rules or not race.

ok cool, I will just get another c2

I will be racing,no matter what..:dude:
If it is there or somewhere else... :)

Rules,lets talk about rules. You guys went to ROAR this year and I know
for a fact that there are ROAR rules being broken at Hobby World,so how can you tell me go by the rules or go elsewhere,I have never broke a rule at any track I have attended.So if I want to go by the "rules" I shouldn't attend Hobby World,you are right,go elsewhere....

Hell all I was asking if I could run a Kisbey,and I get that kind of answer.
Nice answer :thumbsup:

Hell all I was asking if I could run a Kisbey,and I get that kind of answer.
RCOVALRACER,the answer you got was unnessisarry as it was a simple question.all the guys at hobby world run the chamilion 2 motors.so if you come to race that is the preferred motor,however if there are 3 or more cars they will make a class for you.so please dont be mad and come see us on a friday night real soon.thanks

[QUOTE=Echeconnee]
It will be nice to put some faces with the names. We are making a 4 hour trip so your drive is nothing. If you can't make it we will be in Jax the end of the month.
Hey Clifford. Some of our guys faces over here should problably remain unseen unless you have a strong stomach :tongue: :rolleyes:

I fell the same as xpss

Hey Bill,
Dont' be so mean.
Anyone that wants to race at hobby world is
welcome, if you don't have what you need,
someone will probably lend it to you.
It may not be the best stuff, but we want
all the racers we can get. It is more fun that
way.

i gotta ask this..

ARE YOU ALL GOING TO BRING UP ROAR EVERY TIME YOU DONT LIKE SOMETHING? JESUS LET IT GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

THE RULES YOU FOLLOW ARE THE RULES AS LISTED BY THE TRACK! NOONE IN THE COUNTRY USES ROAR RULES TO THE LETTER! THEY ARE THERE TO USE AS GUIDE LINES. WHEN YOU ENTER A NATIONAL EVENT THAN IS WHEN YOU WILL SEE 99% OF THE ROAR RULES INFORCED! MOST OF THERE RULES ARE COMMON SENSE..SOME ARE PUT IN PLACE TO PREVENT COSTS FROM CLIMBING..OTHERS ARE JUST PLAIN STUPID!THE BEST PART IS THE TRACK AND RACERS IN THE END DECIDE WHAT RULES WILL WORK FOR A GIVEN REGION AND TRACK!

why did they come out with a C2 motor if it was a copy of the C1 motor? answer: because the C1 was easily tweaked..not uncommon to see power numbers in the 120 range with a C1...C2's are sinkers and i also like my hand wound motors..but as long as everyone plays by the rules than the competition should be equal..sometimes even when you play by the rules you get accused of something else! lol

hey bear it was almost nice watching you and earl do some racing in central florida! you had tony covered! you need to race more electric!

RPM SPEEDWAY IS AT LEAST 2 WEEKS AWAY.... PEACE :thumbsup:

easy fishman, it's cool. What kind of average numbers are you seeing with the C2's? If I really try I can get about 89 watts with around 120 torque on the phantom plus it's about 60% efficient. My best C1 is 97 with 113 torque and around 60% efficient, but now they are legal uncranked motors too. My ARCOR T1 handwound 19t with stand up brushes set @ 36 deg runs in the 90 watt range with 110 torque and around 60% efficiency. The ARCOR motors retail for $65.00 as mandated by ARCOR. That ain't too shabby for a handwound mod motor. We sell them for 50 at our track, so it's a real good deal @ only 15 dollars more than a tuned stock motor.

I see a good old fashioned grudge race challenge brewing here. And its all good. I say bring on them handwounds and C1's for those of us that have'nt seen them run it can be interesting. Hey I've been beaten before many times and I still race. As mentioned before it only takes three to make a class.

i have 2 c2's that are mid 90's and I know that Phil Owen And Joe Malin have serveral over 105 power.

hey butthead

P dave
Dave P??
Hmmmm?
ahahahahahhahahahahaha?
hahahahahahah!!

Geez, my C2 is really starting to sound like a paperweight, lol.

I also have ARCOR motors at 108 watts to go along with those C-2s,see you all soon :wave:
Phillip

Phil what tires do you run at the carpet track?

John i am working on that list

I also have ARCOR motors at 108 watts to go along with those C-2s,see you all soon :wave:
Phillip

You know.................... Most everything that comes out of region 3 is BIGGER and BIGGER and BIGGER....... oh my! Their always BETTER, the second time around. :tongue: :tongue:

BTW.... David ran record with a 92 watt C2...........

set up, set up, set up!

Hell all I was asking if I could run a Kisbey,and I get that kind of answer.
RCOVALRACER,the answer you got was unnessisarry as it was a simple question.all the guys at hobby world run the chamilion 2 motors.so if you come to race that is the preferred motor,however if there are 3 or more cars they will make a class for you.so please dont be mad and come see us on a friday night real soon.thanks

well said ,, bear.

people should make it where they are more people welcomed to race ,, specially where they is only few people racing and glad more racers are coming to race, the growth of this hobby is racers and should be the main goal in any club or organization with out them you dont have a club or worse venue to run at all,, granet hobby world will seem to always be there ,, but wouldnt it be better with more racers? and then you have alot more racing goning on. i can remember when you went to hw and made the Amain you was doing real good years ago,, they was c and d mains back then,, when is the last time you hear the word c main. lets get it back to what it used to be like years ago , a hamburger (racing) is a hamburger on a paper plate (old surface) or a silver plate (new surface) but if you add lettuce tomatoe onion pickles cheese fries( trophies, plagues, gift certificates to use in the hobby shop) now you to a value meal and more people will want it,, some body is got to push the racing there like a promotor ,, sell it to the public and make it a number one product that people want to be associated with,,, look at katfish,, he is promoting and selling orlandos rpm,, that what yall should do on other threads about hobby world,, but hobby world is also got to pony up and make it something their selves also ,, its your track be proud of it and make something of it.. you build it and they will come doesnt work,,only in baseball movies.. make people have a desire to want to come and race so bad they got to be there every weekend even thow they live hours away or two minutes away. i hope yall dont take my post the wrong way ,, i love this hobby and hobby world and i want it to get bigger and better,, instead of maintaining on a slow heart beat ,,,,so let get the blood flowing and brains aworking to get racers coming and then worry about real problems like ,, where they goin to pit , who selling sodas, do we have the part we need on the shelf in the shop,, holly cow a h main,, until then forget the small sh*t and start racing and having FUN,,,, come on say it FUN,,, all together now FUN..

BIGDON

I think that the biggest thing that will help the racing grow is something for the begginers. right now there is nothing these new guys come out get there asses handed to them and they don't come back. is it really far for a new guy to run against me bear earl rook brad john and todd (when I show up) malone. on the oval side the spec class isn't for begginers anymore.

while on the subject if this sunday thing doesn't work out it is because ther is such a small core of racers that alot of us can only come once a week me included. the window of oppertunity was missed this winter maybe next winter we can learn from this winter. takle a break from friday nights race every sunday and grow.

I plan on racing as much as possible as soon as I get a little better, lol. I am just practicing as much as possible now so I can get where I can stay out of you guys' ways lol. I have 4 other friends that are starting (back) soon too. Some of you may know 3 of them, the other 2 of us are just starting but about as gung ho as you can get, lol.

I am sure that Chris, Dave, and Val will be running up there with you guys in a couple of weeks, Matt and I will probably start next month....maybe sooner but I doubt it for me.
Like Don said I am all about having fun I dont care if I get my ass handed to me I will still be having fun. One week, when I finish next to last instead of last then I will feel like I have accomplished something lol.

I just dont want to ruin anyone else's run or cause them to break something. When I feel confident enough that I am not going to screw someone up then you will see me there for every single race!

Gift certificates would be REALLY nice though....maybe one day I could replace a part that I won lol.


--Eugene

New 92
i understand where you are coming from. I am out there to run as fast as I can everyweek but I can speek for the other touring guys we understand that when people are new, things happen. and we want you guys out there. it is alot more fun with more cars then 4 cars like we have now and I know that it sucks to move over every other corner. maybe you and your friends could run stock till you get comfortable with the car.

Yea we are all planing on running stock...well, I dont know about Dave G and possibly Chris, but Matt, Val, and I will be running stock for awhile I think.....big change going from Nitro off road to electric on road, lol.

hey guys check out this legend car. Is it legal Bill

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3168154990&category=2565

hey guys check out this legend car. Is it legal Bill

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3168154990&category=2565
DaveP- I love the way that the owner incorporated the Assoc front end onto it! And it comes w/its own carrying case! Sweeet! Pro-Legends??? lol
-George

As much as I'd like to see gift certificates given out as prizes (even certificates for free track time would be great), I'd rather see a true beginner class or at least a B Main.

I'm out there to have fun and do some racing, but with half the field running 7 second laps in Street Spec and the other half running 8-10 second laps, it get a little dangerous out there for the beginner.

Unfortunately, oval track R/C racing is an expensive thing to get into and you don't know if you'll like it until you do it. That's why you don't see many newbies showing up every week. Also, there aren't any RTR oval cars, so that's another thing that keeps the newbies out. A guy can throw down $250, take the car out of the box and add batteries and he's ready to get on the track in touring class. And if he doesn't like racing, its still a fun parking lot toy.

The oval racer has to spend about $500-600, build the car, and then spend hours setting it up (thanks for all the help guys!! I'd be an even bigger traffic hazard without your assistance and advice.), and if he doesn't like racing, he's got a R/C car that only turns left!

So when you do get a beginner to show up with a car, and he's getting lapped by the leaders every four laps, its an uphill fight to keep him coming back for more abuse. IMO, anyone that breaks a track record should consider moving up to 19T and leave Steet Spec to the people who are still learning.

I don't mind losing races at this point in my "career", but I'd like to have the chance to do more than just try and stay out of the way of people that are driving 20-30% faster than I am in pursuit of this week's new track record.

But, with all that said, I'm still having fun and am looking forward to the day when I don't finish LAST.

Oh yeah, all the ROAR bitchin' is getting old!! Pay the $30 and go racing! 'nuff said.

As much as I'd like to see gift certificates given out as prizes (even certificates for free track time would be great), I'd rather see a true beginner class or at least a B Main.

I'm out there to have fun and do some racing, but with half the field running 7 second laps in Street Spec and the other half running 8-10 second laps, it get a little dangerous out there for the beginner.

Unfortunately, oval track R/C racing is an expensive thing to get into and you don't know if you'll like it until you do it. That's why you don't see many newbies showing up every week. Also, there aren't any RTR oval cars, so that's another thing that keeps the newbies out. A guy can throw down $250, take the car out of the box and add batteries and he's ready to get on the track in touring class. And if he doesn't like racing, its still a fun parking lot toy.

The oval racer has to spend about $500-600, build the car, and then spend hours setting it up (thanks for all the help guys!! I'd be an even bigger traffic hazard without your assistance and advice.), and if he doesn't like racing, he's got a R/C car that only turns left!

So when you do get a beginner to show up with a car, and he's getting lapped by the leaders every four laps, its an uphill fight to keep him coming back for more abuse. IMO, anyone that breaks a track record should consider moving up to 19T and leave Steet Spec to the people who are still learning.

I don't mind losing races at this point in my "career", but I'd like to have the chance to do more than just try and stay out of the way of people that are driving 20-30% faster than I am in pursuit of this week's new track record.

But, with all that said, I'm still having fun and am looking forward to the day when I don't finish LAST.

Oh yeah, all the ROAR bitchin' is getting old!! Pay the $30 and go racing! 'nuff said.

I agree with you on many of these points. with no begginer class it makes for a hard night for the new guy. when it come to moving up to 19t that is very big jump from spec there is alot that needs to be done and alot of money involved in that. some of the guys race spec because it is cheap fun for them and the budgets don't allow them to run 19t. my best advice to you is keep at it. keep coming out to the track there is alot of stuff to be learned for a new racer. like roll out. between run maintence. like cleaning the motor and re-oiling it checking the car. I look over my car really good look for things that might be out of place. on a car like the L4 it is a good idea to check all the screws that hold the rear of the car together loosen them like a 1/4 turn and re tighten look for broken rims and things like that. it is better to do this than wait for something to break.

I am almost always there every friday so if you ever need anything ask me. I have the white TC3 with orange and yellow graphics on it.

Dave Puliafico

all the guys at hobby world run the chamilion 2 motors

Thanks XPSS :thumbsup:

I think as of the past few years spec racing is not for the beginner. We here @ Echeconnee Superspeedway run what is called a break out class. Our break out lap time here is 7.0 seconds. If you run a 6.9 or faster, you lose the lap. This is the fairest form of cost controlled racing there is. You can't cheat the clock, you can run any motor or battery set up you want and things like weight don't matter either. This class would work well for you guys because a guy could start in this class with spec stuff and move to spec racing when they felt more comfortable. This is the biggest class @ our track right now. Almost twice the size of open stock.........just something to think about :thumbsup:

92- I believe they practice on Thursday nights. If they still do that would be an excellent time to come out for a couple of hours. These guys would have time to help you out even more because they are just playing around.Friday night really isn't the time to do all this.
If they are racing Sunday again come on down .I know it's easier for me in the daylight.Practice is the only way your going to get better.
If they set-up the heats for friday nights racing or Sunday then at least they could put the new racers in a seperate heat.Sometimes that is possible but it depends on the turn out?
They have, many years ago had drivers clinics for the new racers. Show them what they need to know to race.Maybe before a Sunday race ?

Dave on the legends- why not. When do you want to start??????

Unfortunately, I am starting an inservice series this Thursday that is every Thursday until the beginning or mid March. I am planning right now on going out on Wednesdays and every Saturday that I can. I was out this past Saturday for about 5 hours and the Tuesday before that for about 3 hours. I could definitely see an improvement from Tues to Sat. I know I have a lot to learn but I am not in a super hurry to get out there...I will be soon though =)

now would be an excellant time to start a sportsman class for both on road and oval.when a driver dominates he/or she will be asked to move up to the next class.santa brought lots of new cars this year and we need to get them out there having fun.and a class for the new guys yeilds them a chance to will a lot sooner.bear yarbrough,atomic motorsports

Da bear that went poof this sunday...................
I agree Now would be the time to start this. It's just hard to help these new racers when they only show up friday evening.I guess you guys would have to get together with the guys running the race about setting up these new classes.