the rain was gone,at least for a little while,and we got in some very fun racing! The first night of the points series is in the record books,last night made it worth working in this junk all day today. Good to see Joe Malin racing with us,he has gotten faster too,even though he is still complaining about his car,but we know,.......he just hasn't gotten used to racing without shocks and graphite yet. A good crowd turned out,and it was tough to pick a 4-cell qualifier to want to run in,for there were fast cars,and good drivers spread out everywhere. First time I've ran there this year,I'll be back,.....next week! :thumbsup:

Nice racing guys. I think this is going to be a good year from Street Spec. Let's keep it up. Good see the turn out. Welcome back Joe and Joe. Great race with Jay pulling it off in the final two laps!!

I updated the Street Spec Website today. Everything is on there as far as I can tell, points, and results. email me at shawnleary@attbi.com with any files, pics, articles etc you want posted to it. Take care and see you all next Friday.

Shawn
http://home.attbi.com/~shawnleary/streetspec/spec/

what classes are run at Hobby World?

what classes are run at Hobby World?

oval-
The classes being run @ Hobby World are Street Spec,1/10 4-cell 19-turn & Touring stock. Come on out sometime!

Shawn-
It is good to see the "Joe & Joe" show back into Spec! My truck was crap Friday night. Apologies goes out to those I accidentally took out! Also,kinda strange to win 19-turn "B" main by myself! It was kinda lonely out there! :lol: I think I've figured out what was wrong w/the Spec truck (besides a crap speedo!),so I should have a good one next Friday night!
-George

George,your truck wasn't that much slower than I was,I remember having a hard time getting around you in the front straight,however,I too wasn't up to par in the handling department. The whole car was just a little too tight,but for the first run on it,and no practice time with it,I didn't fare too badly.I saw some sunshine sunday morning late,and started to toy with the idea of running the 4-cell stock car,but as I was writing this,it clouded up again,so.......I'll just be fortunate that I ran friday night,I did clean and organize my race box,and found out that I too,have had to employ the much celebrated,"cardboard box" to carry the extra stuff! I guess it worked for Shawn and Jay,so why not? :confused:

I couldn't overcome a 23+ second first lap. My front tired locked in the left position. I thought that a screw and piece of plastic would have already solved that problem, but I guess not. Oh well. I think last night will be a throw away, I hope : ) Maybe we will have two mains in the future and we can hope that Jay and Joe Malin will be apart of those B-Mains ;) We can only hope!!!

I didn't get a chance to come out and practice during our two week absence from racing. My bad.

What do you guys think? Should I go back to my wide body monte carlo? It ran 29 laps the previous week.

The second heat I couldn't race because my car wanted to go backwards at the start, also during the first race my car was glitching big time. Live and learn eh? I think putting some more capacitors on the motor helped in the Main, thanks to Bear, Tom and John Hart for the help. Great seeing everyone out there in Spec. I bet by summer we will have two Mains.

Shawn
http://home.attbi.com/~shawnleary/streetspec/spec

what classes are run at Hobby World?


There is also a 6-cell stock class that races every once and awhile. Get in touch with Shannon about what nights they run. Street Spec class is a good class to get into if you are just getting started, we are always looking for more drivers!!!

Shawn
http://home.attbi.com/~shawnleary/streetspec/spec

The problems you had is something that can and does happen to all of us at one time or another,you came back in the main,and ran well! And I have to further emphasize with you,the benefits of spec racing. For all who might read this thread,when you look into the cost of R/C,it is alot cheaper than alot of other hobbies,....and when you think about racing,the only class that has not been influenced by inflation over the period of years and technology is street spec! $20 dollar battery packs,$30 motors,limited chassis enhancements,cheapest tires on the market,.....you can't lose! The racing is close,and even the new racers with 6 months experience,can compete with the veterans of several years,and be competitive. I would like nothing better than to have 20+ racers out there,every friday night,in spec! The racing is always better if you have to drive around alot of people to get to the top,at least for those who like competition. In all honesty,Hobby World is a place that provides a venue for all the popular racing disiplines in the area,and a big thank you goes out to Big Don,Greg,and all who keep us racing! I had a great time last friday night,racing against you,and all who ran our class! I have other irons in the fire,possibly 4-cell mod,or 6-cell stock truck,but the spec class will be the mainstay in my racing program,........hey,I got a cardboard box now :thumbsup:

Joespec-
Yes,R/C is a helluva lot cheaper than playing in a Metal band! :devil: Yikes! 16 guitars,4 Marshall stacks and no albums later & I'm still broke! :lol:
-George
BTW-I think Tuffy's is open this weekend! Are you coming out???

Joespec-
Yes,R/C is a helluva lot cheaper than playing in a Metal band! :devil: Yikes! 16 guitars,4 Marshall stacks and no albums later & I'm still broke! :lol:
-George
BTW-I think Tuffy's is open this weekend! Are you coming out???


Tuffy, can I come? Please? I have a second Spec car and live off of Collins. I would be running Spec, what are the rulez. Thanks in advance.

Shawn

Shawn-
You'll have to ask Tuffy if he stops by HW Friday night. I don't think he'll mind! The more,the better! I'll run Spec w/you,Joespec & Greg if you bring them! That should be enough for a race! :thumbsup: Bring Jason,too!
-George

Shawn, George and Joespec I will have my second spec car this week and will set it up for tuffy's on sunday!
Greg :thumbsup:

Are we running the same spec rules as HW? If so, that is cool. Let me know. It doesn't matter to me.

Shawn
http://home.attbi.com/~shawnleary/streetspec/spec

ps. I don't know who Tuffy is, so it would be hard to invite myself :)



Shawn, George and Joespec I will have my second spec car this week and will set it up for tuffy's on sunday!
Greg :thumbsup:

Scince everyone who's going to run runs with those rule at HW I don't think there will be a problem. You can follow me out there sun. and I'll intoduce to tuffy. He might even be at HW friday night.
Greg

Street spec would be a fun class at Tuffy's! The only thing that would possibly change would be the gear ratio,it should be fast too! It would be fun to get the speedway boys on a short-track for a change,since we can't get them to run the short-track at HW. Bump and run passing is an art form,and it can't be appreciated on the super stretch. Each one is a different disipline,the speedway being that where you have to extract the most out of each aspect of your car,....motors,batteries,chassis,aero,etc........T he short-track,handling! The ability to stand in the gas the longest into a corner,and be the first one to jump in the gas coming out,without over-driving the car,or the batteries. If I had my pick,it would be short-track,just for the reason that it's fun,and it makes for better drivers! The people who might read this,can ask Tom,or Bear,about all the great battles we had on the short-track that used to be HW,sometimes I wish that was all that we still had,.....could you imagine racing today with 2000mah packs,and being competitive? :eek: Yes,spec racing at tuffy's would be great! :thumbsup:

Street spec would be a fun class at Tuffy's!.... It would be fun to get the speedway boys on a short-track for a change,since we can't get them to run the short-track at HW. Bump and run passing is an art form,and it can't be appreciated on the super stretch. .........If I had my pick,it would be short-track,just for the reason that it's fun,and it makes for better drivers! The people who might read this,can ask Tom,or Bear,about all the great battles we had on the short-track that used to be HW,sometimes I wish that was all that we still had,......Yes,spec racing at tuffy's would be great! :thumbsup:

Joespec-
Heck,I even remember the short track battles we used to have in the big oval! Where's Pless when you need him! :lol: Me,Greg and a bunch of others were practicing one Sunday and got him hooked on the short track deal! (I think you and/or Tom were there,too?) It would be a treat to see Shawn & Jason run Spec on the high-banked oval! Heck,they might even like it so much that they'll be dying to come back!
-George

i think spec would be a great class at tuffys.the more class 's the merrier!we need more class's to get more people showing up on race day.we also do a nascar pool so bring some extra money if ya want to play.bear

Seeing how the small oval in the center is not being used or has been used.. is it possible to redo that area and make it part of the touring track. Maybe a S instead of the hairpin before you dump onto the front?

i think spec would be a great class at tuffys.the more class 's the merrier!we need more class's to get more people showing up on race day.we also do a nascar pool so bring some extra money if ya want to play.bear
Bear-
I think it would,too! Especially with everyone running the new 1600 Spec packs,those "dump trucks" would really fly around the banked oval! BTW,anybody pick Kenseth to win last week? Seems like Bean picked all of the "winners"! :lol: I'll have to play this week!
-George

Seeing how the small oval in the center is not being used or has been used.. is it possible to redo that area and make it part of the touring track. Maybe a S instead of the hairpin before you dump onto the front?
Jay-
May not be a bad idea. We originally put up a small oval up hoping to get some Legends & Spec to run it but nobody showed up or wants to run it! What a waste! Oh well! :(
-George

i think the whole track needs to be re done(the road course that is).that design is gay

Just bought another spec just for tuffy's! And I have plenty of blues and oranges.

Show of hands for everybody going to tuffy's and race spec I'm in. :thumbsup:

i think the whole track needs to be re done(the road course that is).that design is gay

i agree with Bear

If everyone who has a spec car,will want to go and run them at Tuffy's,I'll bring mine too! Now,for the road course at HW,......there were a few people who worked on this track,.....while everyone else was racing at CPT,the HW track was pretty much forgotten,by most,if not all,for anyone to come in this now,and say that it is lame,is not fair,especially since the one who did the majority of the work on it,doesn't even race road course! The track design was made with one thing in mind,......simplicity! The people that are new to the sport,don't need the kind of track that some of the really good drivers want,plus,the fact that the pipes are somewhat worn added to the more simple design. We can't expect the track owners to go out and buy more pipe,especially since all of us turned our backs on the track that supported us long before there ever was a carpet track. Now,if there are some who want an improved design,I would suggest that all of the road course racers get together on a race night,and talk over some changes that would be beneficial to all concerned. We can shout and cuss about the way things are all we want to,but unless we are willing to work on better things,it's just crap. By the way,......Bob,his son,and George worked on the track for all of us,so they deserve a "thank you"from all of us,....not criticism.

wait a minute man nobody said that Bob did't do a good job we are just saying that there is a big portion of the track being tied up for that small oval that nobody uses. it would be nice to incorprate that into the track layout. also i race oval and turn 1 of the oval where the touring cars come out is breaking alot of oval cars. and since you mentioned it I think that it is the owners responsibilty to fix the track not ours. hell i drop alot of money at the place as well as alot of other people. it would be nice to see them give something back to us. like a little more lighting and some new pipe. that is my 2 cents

Dave has a good point. Doesn't seem like the owner of HW puts much back into the track. That light in turn three has been out for months. The surface needs to be redone. I also drop some hard earned cash at HW but I will/would definitely go to a "newer" track if no improvements are done to the Super Speedway soon. I've heard that these problems are going to be rectified in the near future, hopefully soon, or Trains and Planes may have to pay their rent : ) My 2 cents

I wouldn't mind running the inside oval. For a night.

Shawn
http://home.attbi.com/~shawnleary/streetspec/spec


wait a minute man nobody said that Bob did't do a good job we are just saying that there is a big portion of the track being tied up for that small oval that nobody uses. it would be nice to incorprate that into the track layout. also i race oval and turn 1 of the oval where the touring cars come out is breaking alot of oval cars. and since you mentioned it I think that it is the owners responsibilty to fix the track not ours. hell i drop alot of money at the place as well as alot of other people. it would be nice to see them give something back to us. like a little more lighting and some new pipe. that is my 2 cents

Interesting........

........ We can't expect the track owners to go out and buy more pipe, especially since all of us turned our backs on the track that supported us long before there ever was a carpet track.


Ohh wait 1 minute buddy. Sorry to burst your bubble but the racers SUPPORT THAT TRACK EVERY TIME they PAY THE RACE FEE. And seeing how Hobby World has hosted a track for 10+ years, which i will add you had to pay for 10+ years of racing then, WOULD BE CALLED SUPPORTING THE TRACK....

The carpet track offered something new to the R/C COMMUNITY. But you call us un-supportive when a better track was available? So we are to stay in the same place as always and not take advantage of the opportunity that some spent a lot of money on just to bring YOU, the racer, a better race track to race on? Did you not upgrade to 1600 spec packs when they where available? Or did you say no because that’s not supporting the manufactures who made the original 1400's?

So its safe to say we wont see you at the Summer Sizzle carpet series, because its not supporting Hobby World? Maybe that’s why I never remember seeing you over at NFLRC's track, because we don’t support Hobby World?

East vs. west, business vs. business, attitude vs. attitude...
Get over the crap and just race and SUPPORT THE R/C COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.... There’s over 1 million people here in Jaxs, 5 - 8 hobby shops, SEVERAL race venues now, and only a core of what, MAYBE 250 racers. Where’s that support you say don’t exist?

I show my support whenever I can at just about every track here in JAXS. I show up at my competitors race, pay the race fees, ENJOY MY RACE, and be very thankful they are willing to host such a kick BUTT hobby as this one. The day HW re-sets that track and im NOT doing my own "track" thing, I WILL be there to help set it up. Unfortunately I missed the last re-set of the track even after I told Joe I was going to help, but NFLRC needed help with resetting track as well on that same weekend.

So anyone who calls ANYONE un-supportive is only fooling themselves… There is a lot of support in this town and it shows when EVERYONE races at any event in Jaxs. :thumbsup:

I wouldn't mind running the inside oval. For a night.

Shawn
http://home.attbi.com/~shawnleary/streetspec/spec


I think thats a point someone missed as well..... "For a night." Lets try for a whole point series?

I think thats a point someone missed as well..... "For a night." Lets try for a whole point series?

I would not be interested in running Spec for an entire series on the small oval. I vote to give the space back to Touring so they can have a better race experience. I guess Legends would use the smaller track for little kids, but until some youngins start racing Legends, you know.

Going down to Daytona this weekend, will be at HW if no rain. See ya'll tomorrow.

Shawn

woa! rule #1 if the track charges for you to race..never help wit set-up or tear down! if you want me to build the track than race on it i need a free entry! otherwise it would be called hobbyclub...imagine a burger king or mcdonalds that never upgraded over the years? some of the money taken in from entries should go back into the track? lights new pipe amb system re paved? but my single largest hobby world gripe ever is...you race on friday nights? only locals get to attend that type of schedule. errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr i would have paid 25.00 or more to keep that indoor carpet track alive! worth every penny and thats with me still having to bring a chair and table! has anyone seen the old owners of cpt at the local races in j ville? :freak:

katf1sh,I can understand your views,and they seem to be big-time commercial ideas,.........so this is what you are used to,.....let me tell you of what you do not know here.......for a long time here,it was more of a family situation,here on the westside of Jax. which is a lower income scene,our racers were not all consumed with sponsorship,and "making it to the top" we just wanted to have fun and race! That's all. We all pitched in to set-up,and tear down,to dry,and to help each other out when neccessary.You could come and set a blazing run,and you would be welcome,but your performance would not change the collective mind-set of the group.......what have I illustrated? The local racing scene,which varies from track to track. I have seen you race,Impressive for sure,but I have no desire to run against you,for there are other things that are important to me,R/C is supposed to be fun,I'm not going to chase an elusive victory over you,and miss all the fun I have racing against all the other clowns that I have grown accustomed to racing with. But to identify with your point,we also have had the encroachment of high-tech here too,whan people felt that it was more important to stay in their trailers,than to help set-up the track,this was a set-back,no matter how well they ran. Know what I mean,Vern?

For what I understand from the few people that did still show up to race at HW after CPT opened up,......there was no racing at HW! So you can take that support issue,and pack it back in your race box,for it doesn't fly! If people want to take the extra space that the unused Legends short-track takes up,and use it for the touring cars,........fine! I have no problems with that. But for those of you who want to argue,here it is,......this town will not support more than a couple of racing venues,Period! That's the facts,proven by time,.....and when First Coast was operational,they would not come over here,and we didn't go over there,more proof to the point! I have lived in this town since 1967,and have been involved in R/C racing for almost 20 years here,and most of the guys I see racing now,I don't remember being here a few years back,except for Tom,Bill,and myself. You can ask the old dinosaurs like me,about how it was back then,......if you care to. Bottom line is,HW is what it is,and if you want to make changes for your benefit,then you had better roll up your sleeves and help,for this is the way it is in this community. I'll be glad to help you too! Look at what is in front of you,....CPT closed down,tragicly,for lack of support,and the last carpet track here,before CPT,closed down for the same reason,HW is still in business,for they have a business outside of R/C cars,so if we are to have a better scene for all who race,then we have to work on it ourselves! I have sundays off,and I will sacrifice a race day at Tuffy's,to help anyone re-design the HW track for road course,let me know friday night. Coming or going,HW is what we have had ,don't slam it,let's work on it!

katf1sh,the race fees mostly go to pay for the extreme light bill that HW pays,for all of the crap that everyone feels they need to bring to the track,all of the "technology" that everyone just have to have,to race at a "fun"track? How much fun is that? Speedways hurt everyone,in one way or another,........we used to have a short-track,that's all we had,but we could be competitive with old batteries,old chassis,etc. There were no motor guys,no battery guys,all you had to do was handle well. The camel got his nose in the tent,and we will never go back to the real"fun"days,but we just have to use what we have,and enjoy it,as much as we can,......or as much as we can afford to,that is. Where's the "whip"? The same place HW will go to one day,.......extinction,due to people burned out on the cost of being competitive.But the spec cars will still be running,because they are cheap FUN!

I will state my view, If I goto a permanent facility/racetrack that charges me to race, you should'nt expect the paying public to set-up the track. Now a CLUB event is alot different story, we raced in daytona for years as a member of a club... it was me, bill and a couple other guys who set-up and tore down the track for everyone every week, we helped out all the time...because it was club, not someone's business. Does that mean I or anyone who showed wouldnt help out if the situation presented itself....no, of course we would anyone who had ever met me or bill/katfish knows we would help them out.....but it shouldn't be expected by the track/race facility is my point. A permanent track that charges for people to race should put some of that money into upkeep of the facility, lights, make sure the surface is good etc as best they can.

our racers were not all consumed with sponsorship,and "making it to the top" we just wanted to have fun and race! That's all.

Well, I certainly am not and I don't believe Katfish is either.... do we want to run the best we possibly can?... you bet we do. We try our damndest to do so, if we don't we had fun trying.... we usually have more fun talkin Shiz-not in the pits and hanging out with our buddies than actual on track racing....lol. so why that comment was made for I'm lost.

But to identify with your point,we also have had the encroachment of high-tech here too,whan people felt that it was more important to stay in their trailers,than to help set-up the track,this was a set-back,no matter how well they ran. Know what I mean,Vern?

Like I said earlier ... we've been there and done that, meaning been the guys setting up and tearing down the track every week .... it was bad enough when we were all in a club and the same 5 guys did it. So you can see kinda why if I go to a track that charge $10 or $15 bucks, I don't think it should be expected for the racer to prepare the track as well. If you goto race @ superior hobbies in orlando.... they set the track up in the parking lot and don't ask the racers to do so, because its a for profit deal thru the hobby shop. my.02 :D

joespec: for all of the crap that everyone feels they need to bring to the track,all of the "technology" that everyone just have to have,to race at a "fun"track? How much fun is that?

What "technology" are you talking about ? :confused:

has hobbyworld ever run on saturday nights? ... friday nights makes it hard for us outtowners to get up there and run once in awhile and see george, greg, dan and the crew.

To everyone,.......I'm not trying to start a battle of wills here,.....I love to race,and enjoy the company of many who come to race at HW too!! I have even changed my mind about Bullfrog,he really is a nice person,even if he is somewhat strong-willed about what he wants out of his hobby,.......this is it right here,what we want out of our hobby,and each and everyone of you have desires as to how you want your racing career to go,.......admit it! Now,that being said,......if we want to have what we want,as with anything else in life,we must put forth effort to get it.I'm willing to help anyone who thinks of a way to make things better,but I also know that I'm not going to turn my back on the one consistant thing that has been there in this town for R/C racing,....HW,see you friday night! Happy racing :thumbsup:

Anyone from out of town,has not had to set-up the track,ever. The locals have done this,but not for the benefit of anyone other than the locals that run here on a regular basis. If you foriegners want to submit ideas,.....great! I can agree with you on the Legends track,that does not get used,but the hobby store felt that they should include this track,for those who might go out and buy a Legends car,.....it's not getting used,so,.....let's change it. But this decision will not be made by those who don't race here on a regular basis,for the track does not get changed frequently either. My "technology" reference applys to all the electronic junk that has spoiled racing in general,.......dyno's,lathes,zappers,matchers,etc. ....all of the stuff that makes it prohibitively expensive for most to race competitively. Why do you think there is a Legends car? A street spec car? Because at one time,at least in this town,that was all there is. Cheap racing,all that most people will willing to afford at one time. The technology thing has indeed corrupted even the spec class. And if anyone was willing to spend the time to research my posts from a long time ago,you would see that my position on speedways has alway been that they price most out of the hobby that they love,it's a shame,but no one is going to say that they would rather race on a bullring,..........except me. :lol:

To all who have taken issue with me,on anything here,....I like you,....I have either met you,perhaps raced with you,or have conversed with you on this forum,another blessing for us,......Hobby Talk! However,I would rather take my lovely bride out for a night of enjoyment,than to spend whatever I needed to on R/C parts,just to have a chance to beat one of you,.......maybe? But I love to race too! I dabble in 4-cell 19turn,I whole-heartedly support street spec! I have raced several touring cars,1/12 scales,off-road,pan-car touring,drag cars,and so on.......oh yeah,we used to have sunday races at HW,but no one showed up. Now we have Tuffy's,so ya'll come on UP and race! I'd be honored to rub fenders with any one of you,.........in spec :lol: :D

joe, i never said a word about the legends track or anything else..... just gave my .02 on tracksetting up and stuff. To me flat oval racing in whether it be carpet or asphalt is a helluva lot more fun than the high banks of first coast (raced it) or Whipporwhill (raced it and won on it) especially for the $$$ spent.

.dyno's,lathes,zappers,matchers,etc

As far as any of that stuff goes, I own a lathe.... circa 1991, old style twister lathe... joe, you don't NEED any of that stuff to be fast except maybe the lathe to keep the motor fresh evey couple runs or 3 a decent battery pack and good car set-up. The stuff you mentioned is "nice to have" but not absolutely neccessary to go fast.

cneyedog,........you got that right! :thumbsup: Wholeheartedly agree with you on the flat-track racing! "makem' drive for a change" my motto. There is not anywhere,more fun than bump-and-run racing where no one gets crashed or broke,everyone can afford to run! There's nothing like taking a position from someone where you just got a lucky break on a corner,but that guy is still on your six,and looking for his spot back. Alas,if more people could see this as real racing,then it would be alot better for all. The trend of the super-speedway has provided speed,but more expense along with it,so what did we gain from the desire to go faster? " Speed is relative"Short-track speeds are not what it is on the speedway,but it's still fast in relation,......and all the rookies would do better to learn to drive,than to go faster than they can comprehend. I would love to run a points series on the short-track at HW,we did an alternate ,....bullring,speedway thing for one series back when,with one road course thrown in for good measure,........it was one of our most fun series ever. Now,......just all out speed!! And several trips to the motor man,......yikes! :freak:

I agree 100% with the out of towners. about the friday night racing thing. sat or sun would be nice. but you know what would really rock being able to see my car. now aI just got back from trying to tune in my L4. I run a 6mm ride height and it is still dragging the track. the place is way to bumpy hell the fastest way around most oval tracks is the bottom. but not at the dreeded HW you have to run high into 1 come off 2 in the middle and be a little low or you car hits the big bump that makes you do a wheelie then throw it into 3 (if you can see it) and not try and turn under sombody in the middle (big bump). this isn't fun. I am going to give oval a couple more weeks at HW to try to have fun. if it is like it was last week then I will be racing some carpet maybe 6 cell stock.


Bottom line it would be really nice to see the car out on the track. the touring car track could use a make over and the place needs the bumps sorted out.

Joe

to address you comments about the whole technaligy thing. I would rather spen the $ 180.00 on the com lathe then give someone else money each week to cut a motor. plus the fact that I can now cut a motor every 4 runs and bring it back up to speed again rather than hammering the thing into the ground by putting 10 runs on it before paying somebody to cut it.

as for the charger thing yes I do have a turbo thirty why
1 great charger
2 discharges my 60.00 batteries at 30 amps so I don't kill them to
3 cycles packs so when it rains out 3 weeks in a row I don't kill my packs
4 runs a motor so I can cut and breakin motors rather than paying somebody to do it.

as for the whole cost crap the new spec battery is like $25.00 a new GP 3300 matched by new wave cells $60.00 but that 3300 pack will last twice as long. I have seen what you guys do to those spec packs after a month there junk.

the motors for these spec cars are like 30 bucks new monster stock motor $35.00 not much difference in cost but a ton in performance . I just want to set you straight on this you can go fast have fun and not spend a bunch of money. hell i bought 1 pair of tires and that is all the whole last point series.

Joe onto the track thing if someone opened up a exact copy of HW (minus bumps and with lights) you bet your but that I would go race there. Lets face it the the only reason that people race there is because it is the only perminant one in Jacksonville it needs help. until something better that is perminant comes around than you will still see my smiling face there. and oh yah by the way to anybody out there if you ever need anything come ask I will help the best I can.


Dave Puliafico
:wave:

Where there’s a track, there’s a setup for it, and if there’s a setup for it there’s a race to be run. JUST RACE. ( And love doing it.) :cool:

Where there’s a track, there’s a setup for it, and if there’s a setup for it there’s a race to be run. JUST RACE. ( And love doing it.) :cool:


i don't think that the problem is in my set up. it is just that with the track being like it is the cars are always on the edge. and one little bump from somebody or you bump somebody all hell breaks loose.


see tonight


Dave


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Resurfacing would bring racers out and definitely creat a more loyal following. By my calculations resurfacing would pay for it self in 10-18 months. Not to mention what they added racers from outa town would spend inside. It goes back to the old saying you gotta spend money to make money!
Greg

I personally broke 3 times last night. Mostly my fault for scrapping the walls along the back stretch where there are 3 COUPLINGS that stick out to "grab" your tire.. Then again my fault that i am not able to keep a clean line.

One of the breaks was in the right side sweeper, right where 2 peaces of pipe are DUCT TAPE together and have a place a touring tire can grab and RIP THE ENTIRE right touring car arm, shock, shock tower right off the car.(Yes, the final break of the night)

Then again, that’s my fault for not running a clean line. Granted my parts are a bit cheaper because i own a hobby shop..... But what about the other guys who don’t and pay full price. I figure 50 bucks will fix the 3 places in the touring track that NEEDS it now....

I HAVE 10 10' lengths of track I can "donate" if that’s what it takes to get that fixed... not that I’m trying to "support" the track or anything stupid like that.

:mad:

Ill even put the damn stuff in myself.

i don't think that the problem is in my set up. it is just that with the track being like it is the cars are always on the edge. and one little bump from somebody or you bump somebody all hell breaks loose.


see tonight


Dave


oh yah jiggy jiggy stomp stomp slide slide hop hop slide jiggy wiggy wiggy
Dave-
I think it's your line that you're taking around the track. There's a little "sweet spot" in turn 3 that kinda increases your speed in that turn. I'll have to show that to you tonight! (maybe!) Turn 1- enter mid to low,cut down low in middle & come out in the middle of 2. Turn 3 (little more banking)-stay in middle of turn 3 (sweet spot) & exit in middle of 4. Drift out (carefully!) to front wall & you'll be set up for turn 1 again! Ask John Pilgrim-I showed him this line & he lowered his personal lap times! Strange,but it works!
-George
BTW-Stay off backstretch wall! There's a drainage "ditch" that will punt you into roadcourse if not careful!

Darn Touring guy, quit turning RIGHT!!!LOLOLOLOLOL :jest: :lol: :D