Like Aaron said, li-po is the way to go with a 2s 7.4v set up for the 10th scale cars or at lease 4s pack (or 2 2s packs in series) for the 8th scales (the guys who ran it last year said the 6s was the way to go).

Also if you don't want to get a li-po right off the bat you could always get a few 6 cell stick packs to get you racing and upgrade to the li-po later on. (it would be better to get li-po's right away if you can as they will last for years as apossed to ni-mh of only having great perfomance for about 6 months to a year)

I just want to comfirm, but the addy put in to google maps points me to a spot north of the toll road (inbetween st rd 23, and anderson road). I just want to be sure that is the right area based on what that says.

I just want to comfirm, but the addy put in to google maps points me to a spot north of the toll road (inbetween st rd 23, and anderson road). I just want to be sure that is the right area based on what that says.

Yep, about 200 yards north of the corner of Bittersweet and Anderson roads on the West side. My dealership (The Car Place) will be on the frontage on Bittersweet. The track will be behind the back building to the West.

Hello again racers. With a mid-May opening in mind and racing every Saturday through the summer Granger Offroad RC Raceway is pleased to announce our signature races for the summer.

June 19 2010, Big Dog Short Course Shootout - who will claim the bragging rights at the end of the day!? All SC - All day!

August 7 2010, Trophy race. This one will be for everybody. Novice to eighth scale, electric and nitro. Trophies and door prizes too. Don't miss this race it is guaranteed to be a blast!

September 4 2010, Trophy race. Classes to be announced. Another SC race? Eighth scale only? Interest will determine classes for this one.

October ? 2010, Granger Raceway appreciation race. Reduced fees, cookout and door prizes will make this a fun day for all!

When we get a bit closer, flyers will be posted with specifics for each signature race.

Don't forget our regular Saturday races will tune you and your car up for the big events!


See Ya trackside :thumbsup::thumbsup:

The 1st few pics to share. While these don't look like much, to get the area to this point took a lot of work. Brush and Tree removal mostly (as you can see from the large pile of brush at the far end of the pictures). Also shows stakes where the track will sit. (Approx a little over 140 x 90 at the widest point, 70ish at the corners...sort of a "D" shaped configuration. This should make seeing the "far" corners much better then if the track were a true rectangle)
The 1st 2 pictures are basically standing at the west end of the track looking east. Where the guys are standing is the approximate location of the soon to be started drivers stand. The 3rd pic, is the view (from a bucket) of the track from the approximate location of the drivers stand.

I like those race dates, as they don't fall on a day that other tracks have a bigger race.

You guys did a nice job at getting it cleared out, now lets hope the temps stay warm and there isn't much rain to work on the track.

Also if I have tme after school today I will drive by to check out the location (just to see where it is, not to stop out to see the track as there isn't anything there yet lol).

I like those race dates, as they don't fall on a day that other tracks have a bigger race.

You guys did a nice job at getting it cleared out, now lets hope the temps stay warm and there isn't much rain to work on the track.

Also if I have tme after school today I will drive by to check out the location (just to see where it is, not to stop out to see the track as there isn't anything there yet lol).

Yeah, we thought the dates were pretty sweet too! Did you get by to check the place out? I've had an excavator in for the last few days hauling out the debris and giving us a finished grade. If I can catch a picture, I'll get it put up. This place is going to be a blast! The track is going to fast and flowing with a few pretty technical spots thrown in and it should be fairly easy on parts too.

See Ya Trackside :thumbsup:

I drove by, and seen lots of dirt. lol I also learned that there are people that can't drive at a 4 way stop sign or roundabouts.

It is easy to get to, but sure is a long drive though town for me when the traffic is high.

I drove by, and seen lots of dirt. lol I also learned that there are people that can't drive at a 4 way stop sign or roundabouts.

It is easy to get to, but sure is a long drive though town for me when the traffic is high.

Where are you coming from, New Carlisle?

Almost (same direction), as I am a little more west from there as I am Rolling Prairie (a few miles north of town since and almost next to the toll road)

Almost (same direction), as I am a little more west from there as I am Rolling Prairie (a few miles north of town since and almost next to the toll road)

If you know where Chicago trail is by Hudson Lake take it East and it turns into Bertrand take it to 31, jog south to Redfield, take Redfield to Conrad, turn South and it will bring you out by the Dairy Queen in Granger. You'll miss almost all the traffic that way and it's a pretty quick trip.

I know where chicao trail is, and what not as I would take that route to niles some times (I would only go to old 31 though). Sounds good, I will be sure to check that route out some time. It would be faster then taking cleveland and/or st rd 23.

Although I don't know I will go that way in winter all the time, as I know how bad some of the back roads get.

Any chance of a dirt oval built in the outside of the road course like at summit at Fort Wayne?

Wood

Any chance of a dirt oval built in the outside of the road course like at summit at Fort Wayne?

Wood

Do you have a picture of the track layout? If so I would like to see it.

I don't think an oval around the out side would work based on the size of the layout (unless you want to pin wot all the way around), but that is just my guess.

On the front page at the bottom of the page at www.summitrcraceway.com they have a SC race video posted, if you watch the video you can see how they incorporate the oval. Pretty cool idea really. opens another type of racing without doubling the space.

Wood

Keep us all posted. We are excited to have another track to race at.

Any chance of a dirt oval built in the outside of the road course like at summit at Fort Wayne?

Wood

It would have a huge runline based on our current plans. We do, however have plenty of space for an alternative track if there were enough demand. For now we are going to concentrate on the off-road track.

Keep us all posted. We are excited to have another track to race at.

I am glad to hear so many racers looking for a quality place to race. We will definately keep up-to-date pictures and info coming. In fact we will be working on layout this weekend and figuring how much dirt to bring in. Keep tabs on this thread for more info.

So no oval correct? :( W'ill keep looking Wood

Hi I am looking at some short course electric trucks and have it down to 3 the slash, blitz, or sc10. would all these trucks run in the same class? I tryied driving through granger to find the track today but was not sure of where it is at, coming from Elkhart I came out at a fire station and turned north on bittersweet? (should have looked at a sign) then drove to 23 and turned west, did I pass the track? Gary in new carlisle

Hi I am looking at some short course electric trucks and have it down to 3 the slash, blitz, or sc10. would all these trucks run in the same class? I tryied driving through granger to find the track today but was not sure of where it is at, coming from Elkhart I came out at a fire station and turned north on bittersweet? (should have looked at a sign) then drove to 23 and turned west, did I pass the track? Gary in new carlisle

Hey Gary, I am glad you are looking us up. Actually you did pass by our facility. From the corner by the fire station the property is about 200 yards north on the left side. There is not any signage for the track (or my car dealership) just yet but we are working diligently right now on both. As far as trucks go I know people that have each of the ones you mentioned. They will all run in the same class. We are going to have classes for stock SC, modified SC and 4x4 SC. Personally my son and I have SC10's. Of the three that would still be my choice were I buying a new one. We are working on an entry-level package using the SC10 and including a battery and a charger and will hopefully have them available a few weeks before we open. Feel free to post here or send me a PM if you have any other questions!
See Ya trackside :thumbsup: Michael

On the SC trucks, they are all good cars to drive and race.

The slash is better for backyard bashing, but does get around the track really good.

The SC10 is like my T4 (you got to drive that my T4 at your place last year), it handles really good. Although it is on the weeker side of the 3 since it is more of a full blown race truck (don't get me wrong, it still can take a hit and drive away). There will also be the most part suppot and set-up's from the local racers since a lot of people have them.

The blitz handles good, and is on the tougher side of things. The one I dorve had an 8.5 in it, and it was hooked up really good although I would have liked more steering (changing the set-up would of helped).

Also from what I have read the blitz has the best stock tires, the sc10 has the worst, and the slash has a good all around tire but works best on a high grip surfface.

Over all I would say go with the SC10 since there is more local support, and because it is a sound truck, but the blitz and slash are also good trucks as well.

BTW hunternaf check your pm's

did you have some orange construction cones at the track behind a couple of pole buildings. have you had any parts breakage on the sc 10's and have you seen the suspension setup on the blitz, then the traxxis is pretty popular, I have a couple of duratrax rtx's that I do like but want to try electics now Gary

I may be asking a question that there's not currently an answer to but i'll ask anyway.....
Is the stock SC class a box stock class and will the Blitz ESE be legal in that class considering it doesn't come with tires allowing a person to get the better than box stock tires and rims. just trying to get my ducks in a row to spend my money just once. I'm normally a dyed in the wool Associated fan but the ESE, Kyosho, and Venom rtr at $169.00 with a great looking radio with very good features look very interesting........

Thanks Wood

I may be asking a question that there's not currently an answer to but i'll ask anyway.....
Is the stock SC class a box stock class and will the Blitz ESE be legal in that class considering it doesn't come with tires allowing a person to get the better than box stock tires and rims. just trying to get my ducks in a row to spend my money just once. I'm normally a dyed in the wool Associated fan but the ESE, Kyosho, and Venom rtr at $169.00 with a great looking radio with very good features look very interesting........

Thanks Wood

The stock SC class is NOT just box stock, therefore the Blitz ESE will be legal. The reason we call it a stock class is because of the use of a stock, 17.5 motor. As far as tires go we just want to stick to SC wheels and tires instead of allowing 1/8th scale wheels and tires.

I personally run an SC10 and think it is great. The Slash would be hard to be competitive with since it is quite a bit heavier and was designed as more of a bashing vehicle. The non-ESE Blitz is decent from what I have seen but I feel the SC10 is still faster and from what I have seen has better quality parts. I don't know if the ESE edition is really going to be much different or not. Although I have not seen one in person the Kyosho seems nice and would be my second choice behind the SC10. Another consideration is that SC10 parts are likely to be easier to find in a pinch.

Hopefully that helps. If you have any more questions just ask.:thumbsup:

BTW stock sc can also mean a 27t brushed, but I don't know anyone who uses brushed motors any more. ;)

Like I said in my other post (and to add a little more)

The SC10 is the best over all when you are new to the hobby and want to race, although you have to make sure the diff' is shimed right.

The slash is more of a basher car, but does work really good on the track (it is hard to belive, but is does work quite well).

Blitz handles really good, and can race against the sc10 with no problems. It is also a bashing car as well.

I have driven those 3, and they all work really well on the track. The sc10 and blitz handle really good and are easy to drive. The slash can be just as fast on the track and people have proven it on the dirt, although over all it is a little harder to drive then the others.

The Kyosho is a nice truck to look into as well, but I don't know of many people in the area that have one or a kyosho 10th scale ele. car for that manner (execpt for me). It is a good car, but from what I have read the axle stubs might break with the plastic hexes so the alu hexes would be a must have (you might not need them, but from what I read they are well worth it).

For me the K-car is my #1 chooice and I will get one (that is if I want to get into the sc class). But I wouldn't over look the sc10 or blitz as I know how good they are.

did you have some orange construction cones at the track behind a couple of pole buildings. have you had any parts breakage on the sc 10's and have you seen the suspension setup on the blitz, then the traxxis is pretty popular, I have a couple of duratrax rtx's that I do like but want to try electics now Gary

Actually they are stakes painted with orange ground paint laying out the track and stand locations and yes, that was the spot. When we get ready to race there will be signage so everyone can find us. We have broken front arms on our SC's indoors where the boards are not so forgiving. So far this has been the only weak spot and it can be improved with the GT2 arms for about $7.00 for the pair and eliminated with the RPM arms and bulkhead for about $25.00.


I may be asking a question that there's not currently an answer to but i'll ask anyway.....
Is the stock SC class a box stock class and will the Blitz ESE be legal in that class considering it doesn't come with tires allowing a person to get the better than box stock tires and rims. just trying to get my ducks in a row to spend my money just once. I'm normally a dyed in the wool Associated fan but the ESE, Kyosho, and Venom rtr at $169.00 with a great looking radio with very good features look very interesting........

Thanks Wood

Stock SC can run any of the motors that come in the RTR SC kits, a 27 turn brushed motor or a 17.5 brushless. Any 10th scale speedo, Any servo, Any brand tire made specifically for SC trucks (no 8th conversions).

Mod SC will be the same rules except no motor limit - run what ya brung!

The biggest advantage for the SC10 over the other brands will be parts availability and setup help.

By the way, did you guys notice our June Short Course only trophy race?

If you need any help with the track building let me know.

Also, I would like to thank Aaron Cyrier for all of the time he has given me to pick his brain for a newbie like me into the sport. Can't thank you enough.

Well I guess as soon as I get some batteries and a charger I will be ready. I picked up a blitz with vermillion electronics in it so I guess I will not be in a stock class unless the stock esc and motor are cheap and save the brushless stuff for later. I do have the duratrax nitro trucks if they like your track and get over being shy (have never functioned proper when at a track):( Gary

Hi Gary,

As long as your running the BOX stock Motor, it wll be allowed in the "stock" class for short course. Even if you change the speedo, and run the box stock motor...you'll be good for the stock class. From our expierience, the box stock motors w/the RTR trucks, don't have much if anything on a 17.5 truck. Especially once the motor gets a few runs on it. That being said, once you change from the box stock motor (Unless it's a stock 27T brushed or 17.5 brushless) then your looking at a mod type class.

Were allowing the box stock 2wd SC's to run w/the "Stock" class to keep costs down. This allows somebody to buy a RTR for around $200 and be able race without buying a bunch of upgrade parts/electronics.

Our goal is to have Less classes, and more people in each class. I think right now for short course racing, we're looking at a Stock SC class (according to ROAR rules those can be found here... (http://www.roarracing.com/downloads/2010_ROAR_Rule_Book.pdf) as well as a MOD SC class. While we havn't written it in stone yet, the MOD class may be a combination of MOD 2wd and MOD 4wd trucks. That will depend on the number of people interested in Mod 2wd basically. At MRCR, there are a LOT of SC trucks already setup as 17.5/box stock, so that should be a pretty large class.

Hi Gary,

As long as your running the BOX stock Motor, it wll be allowed in the "stock" class for short course. Even if you change the speedo, and run the box stock motor...you'll be good for the stock class. From our expierience, the box stock motors w/the RTR trucks, don't have much if anything on a 17.5 truck. Especially once the motor gets a few runs on it. That being said, once you change from the box stock motor (Unless it's a stock 27T brushed or 17.5 brushless) then your looking at a mod type class.

Were allowing the box stock 2wd SC's to run w/the "Stock" class to keep costs down. This allows somebody to buy a RTR for around $200 and be able race without buying a bunch of upgrade parts/electronics.

Our goal is to have Less classes, and more people in each class. I think right now for short course racing, we're looking at a Stock SC class (according to ROAR rules those can be found here... (http://www.roarracing.com/downloads/2010_ROAR_Rule_Book.pdf) as well as a MOD SC class. While we havn't written it in stone yet, the MOD class may be a combination of MOD 2wd and MOD 4wd trucks. That will depend on the number of people interested in Mod 2wd basically. At MRCR, there are a LOT of SC trucks already setup as 17.5/box stock, so that should be a pretty large class.


Good times!

Agreed the kit motors/27T/17.5 are all close enough that they don't warrant an extra class.

Same with the 2wd/4wd Short Courses...I'm actually pretty sure my 2wd is faster and more consistent (but don't tell the 4wd guys, they'll get in a tizzy! lol)

So when is opening day looking like with all this nice warm weather lately!? I wanna plan a trip over there asap! Outdoor season can't come soon enough! :cool:

I would say May 22nd. We're going to be putting on a demo type thing at the 4H fairgrounds in south bend. There is a boy-scouts jamboree and they have asked for RC cars, plans, boats, model trails etc, so it should be an intereting time. More on that when I get more info from them.

Your 2WD Short Course is faster 'cause it's a Bernicky-Falkowski Frankenstein creation from the basement! The killer XXX-SCT, LOL!

He doesn't have the stock esc and motor, as he bought the truck used with the traxxas esc/motor set-up.


I would say May 22nd. We're going to be putting on a demo type thing at the 4H fairgrounds in south bend. There is a boy-scouts jamboree and they have asked for RC cars, plans, boats, model trails etc, so it should be an intereting time. More on that when I get more info from them.

That sounds like it would be fun, and I would like to play that day if it is all type of rc cars even though I will stick with off-road 2wd truck.

He doesn't have the stock esc and motor, as he bought the truck used with the traxxas esc/motor set-up.

While it "could" open a can of worms.... I wouldn't have a problem w/this as that setup isn't any faster/slower/better then the other box stock motor/speedo combos.

I would "GUESS" that as poeple get serious about this class if they like it..would upgrade their RTR with the novak havoc esc/17.5 combo for 160. Ya just can't beat that price for a speedo and motor combo. Especially if they don't have the extra coin for a better esc like a tekin, lrp etc. (where the speedo itself is $175+

Your 2WD Short Course is faster 'cause it's a Bernicky-Falkowski Frankenstein creation from the basement! The killer XXX-SCT, LOL!

...And I'm that good. :dude:

[QUOTE=carbon madness;3289710]He doesn't have the stock esc and motor, as he bought the truck used with the traxxas esc/motor set-up.



[QUOTE=acyrier;3289722]While it "could" open a can of worms.... I wouldn't have a problem w/this as that setup isn't any faster/slower/better then the other box stock motor/speedo combos.


My take is that it needs to be a stock (came with an RTR SC truck) motor. If you can buy any of the RTR's with a brushless then it can not be any hotter than a 17.5, any of the brushed "stock" RTR motors will do. The stockers seem to be pretty equal in performance so I would think that it wouldn't really matter if it were a traxxas motor in a blitz etc.

Ok ya got me itching a little bit... i think im going to take a drive by since its such a nice day...im going to have to see whats even running anymore...havent touched a radio in years! heck, i think its been since i ran with you at max's dayton lol. i might just have to go shopping yet lol.

Ok ya got me itching a little bit... i think im going to take a drive by since its such a nice day...im going to have to see whats even running anymore...havent touched a radio in years! heck, i think its been since i ran with you at max's dayton lol. i might just have to go shopping yet lol.

Cool. You are welcome to come by to look but other than a grade and location staked out there is not too much to see. The address is not posted on the building so look for a steel building that is painted grey with a bigger green steel building behind it. I am waiting on a quote from the pit for dirt mixed to my specs and then we will be bringing it on!

While it "could" open a can of worms.... I wouldn't have a problem w/this as that setup isn't any faster/slower/better then the other box stock motor/speedo combos.

I would "GUESS" that as poeple get serious about this class if they like it..would upgrade their RTR with the novak havoc esc/17.5 combo for 160. Ya just can't beat that price for a speedo and motor combo. Especially if they don't have the extra coin for a better esc like a tekin, lrp etc. (where the speedo itself is $175+

I know what you are saying, but it isn't the system out of a slash. It is traxxas's brushless system so there is no way that is stock. I will let you be the judge, but at the end of the day that system doesn't fall into the stock class rules and it is simple as that.

Although there is still the novice class where any system goes (I know he has never raced), but it will still be better legal to race the main class as I would guess there isn't going to be too many mod sc trucks out there (not counting 4wd sc).

[QUOTE=carbon madness;3290667]I know what you are saying, but it isn't the system out of a slash. It is traxxas's brushless system so there is no way that is stock. I will let you be the judge, but at the end of the day that system doesn't fall into the stock class rules and it is simple as that.


If it is a brushless and 17.5 or higher (numerically) and a 1/10th scale motor, it will fall into the stock class no matter who's motor it is. My SC currently has a tekin 17.5 and a tekin RS speedo and it would be legal for stock. Lets leave this simple so it works for the most racers!

I know what you are saying, but it isn't the system out of a slash. It is traxxas's brushless system so there is no way that is stock. I will let you be the judge, but at the end of the day that system doesn't fall into the stock class rules and it is simple as that.

Although there is still the novice class where any system goes (I know he has never raced), but it will still be better legal to race the main class as I would guess there isn't going to be too many mod sc trucks out there (not counting 4wd sc).

U didn't say it was the brushless system. Slashes also had a brushed something or other when they 1st came out. That's what I'm referring to. (This is what I meant about..opening a can of worms). But he would be able to race it in the mod class w/no problems.

It's good to see another track starting up close to home! I believe it will be a little closer for me than Rochester is. I've noticed some old names on this thread as well as new ones also & always like the chance to catch up with the old rc buddies along with meeting some new ones! Hopefully I can get enough of the old gas truck people together to have a class now & then. I know we're a dying breed but it's still a blast to run the 1/10 nitro trucks. I'm new to the short course deal but I'm getting hooked on them already! No matter what, it will be some great racing seeing that it's an experienced crew putting it all together. Pete & Travis have been telling us about this for a while & we can't wait for it to start! Oh ya, hey Conde, save us a pit spot!

U didn't say it was the brushless system. Slashes also had a brushed something or other when they 1st came out. That's what I'm referring to. (This is what I meant about..opening a can of worms). But he would be able to race it in the mod class w/no problems.

Any 10th scale brushless system is OK for stock SC as long as the motor is not any hotter than a 17.5!

Actually, I stand corrected.

It needs to be a "roar approved" motor for stock or mod. We will be following roar's rules. The exception will be that you can run any of the manufacturers stock (came in the SC kit) rtr brushed motors. Otherwise roar rules.

The velenion that is in my soon to be here blitz is rated as 10 turn, 3500 rpm/volt 50,000 rpm, is that more than 17.5 or less I guess I will try to find the roar rules Gary

Ok ya got me itching a little bit... i think im going to take a drive by since its such a nice day...im going to have to see whats even running anymore...havent touched a radio in years! heck, i think its been since i ran with you at max's dayton lol. i might just have to go shopping yet lol.

holy crap your still alive

You gonna get your SC10 back from Syd?

The velenion that is in my soon to be here blitz is rated as 10 turn, 3500 rpm/volt 50,000 rpm, is that more than 17.5 or less I guess I will try to find the roar rules Gary

A 17.5 is about the same as 27 trun brushed motor. So anything else is in the mod class, and if it is rated as a 10 turn brushed that that is a very hot mod motor.

You gonna get your SC10 back from Syd?

nope,she is going to race it