You can run any 540 can in mod, no rule against that, run a 21.5 if you wish. I'm saying if you're doing well in stock and running well in Mod with the 17.5.....it's time to motor up.

You can run any 540 can in mod, no rule against that, run a 21.5 if you wish. I'm saying if you're doing well in stock and running well in Mod with the 17.5.....it's time to motor up.

Kerby, I completely agree with you on this, but it is nice to be able to run two classes with the same truck like we do. we do have two trucks/esc/motor combos, but choose to run the same truck. the main reason I do it, is because it does give him a lot more track time, and let me tell you thats where its at. now if he was in everyones way in mod, I would not do it, but he is just as fast as most of the mod guys.

now is this unfair? nope, in no way, we are still considered a newbie as well mr blitz, so maybe you should consider running both stock and mod with the same truck, in turn giving yourself more track time.

I guess its only common sense, the more laps you turn the better your going to be, the better feel for the truck your going to have.

just my thoughts.

i have my own opinions as well but as you said with being in the way... that would be me. and im not afraid to admit it. ive only been racing for about 6 monthes. im know im not ready for 10.5 motor or more. im fine with the 17.5 i run now. im not telling you what to do but i do know it seems strange that someone can run the same truck in stock sc and mod sc.

im happy with the track time i get. i dont expect to come out here and win everytime but a fair chance would be nice

just my thoughts.

You need to earn it, that's why it's a competition

the biggest reason the stock trucks can run good in the mod class is because no matter how fast you can go strait you stiil have to turn. and as far as classes go as long the motor is equal or less than the class your in you should be able to run. as far as timing there are ways to beat guys that use timing. i personally have drive over 50 miles to get to the track so i will run as many classes as possible. win or loose and it will probably will be loose. after all these are toys and this is a hobby and if you think winning every race gets you something special you are sady mistaken.so lets have as much fun as possible!

I understand people saying that they think its nice to be able to run 2 classes with the same motor.
According to the rules, you can run any legal motor in the mod class and stock is one of them. HOWEVER, for us who enjoy running mod, a slower truck in the straight away and other differences makes it not so "fun" racing.

If you want to run the spec class, like stock, then do that (boost or no boost I don't care, just go with the ROAR rules to make it simple...)
If you want to run the class where controlling the power is part of the challenge driving around the track as fast as possible, then do that and run Mod.

We are not comparing lap time to see if you can run with other guys, otherwise why wouldn't you be running fast 2wd buggies against slow 4wd SC, if they are turning about the same lap time? It wouldn't make sense... To me it is the same to run your stock motor in a mod class...

I personally like to compete with people that are comparable motor wise, because we all know it is more difficult to handle a fast motor than squeezing it 90% of the time and running a stock...

Just my opinion... and I am not making the ROAR rules, but if it was up to me, I would definitely separate the stock and mod (i.e mod = everything else legal that is not stock).

The challenge in mod is to handle the power, that's where the fun in mod is...:thumbsup:

ROAR should be a guide. Not "THE RULE BOOK". Explain why you cant use reverse in racing, don't just yell "roar says no reverse!" I have reverse in all my vehicles, I just don't use it while I'm racing. I'll use it to line up, not while I'm racing.

When are we going to have a super cross track? LOL something that is all about timing!

I would like to see a stock and mod sc class. Stock class with no boost, no timing. Its pretty sad when someone takes a stock truck and can run with the mods. Mod class should be run what-you-brung. This will also let all the newbies have a fair shot at winning a race or two.


For once i agree with you Paul! LOL I like it how they do it up here. 17.5 brushless or rtr, no timing or boost allowed on motor or esc and rtr tires only. They do the tires to keep the cherry pickers out of it. Most dont like the rtr tires. anything else goes into mod class. We have 8-15 in stock and 15-30 in mod sc every weekend. It works great.

mod should be run what you brung with one exception. No 1/8th scale tires! LOL anything else 2 wheel drive motor size doesnt matter, esc doesnt matter, throw it on the track and lets do this!

Run what you brung sounds like a novice class to me....wait a minute it's Cook so that will work out just fine.......lol JK buddy

[QUOTE=blitZ355;3705958]but why should someone be able to run stock sc and mod sc with the same truck. to most of the racers out there it kinda seems like a 100% advantage. to some of us new guys. (i.e. me.) this just seems like a better style to race in my opinion. if someone want to race stock and mod then they should have 2 trucks or 2 motor/esc combos. just my opinion. what does everyone else think?[/QUOTE


One so you dont have to have 2 trucks. I already have enough damn toys dont need to have 2 of the same. Two If i can compete in mod with my stock stuff why shouldnt i be able to run both? I like to run multiple classes when i go to get the most track time. Up here we have a different set of rules for stock and mod than down there so i have to turn timing and boost off in between classes and change tires if i want to run both. Down there i dont have to do anything and can usually compete with most with my stock truck.

If you put the track time in ur speed will come. I dont know how many nights i was at the track late during th week practicing outdoors. I put in alot of hours and it helped alot. Also learn as much as possible about setting up ur truck correctly. And last but not least tires tires tires, tires are more important than motor and esc. WOuld rather have a slow truck that handles great than a fast one that doesnt because of bad tires.!

I can turn alot faster times alot of the time with a 17.5 and boost vs 8.5 or 10.5 in my sc truck or t4. Alot of the people will turn faster times with a stock motor vs mod motor in there cars. As long as the motor isnt over the class size anything should be legal.

When are we going to have a super cross track? LOL something that is all about timing!

I second the supercross track...be fun to have 2 different lines through a jump section and be all timing. Least like 1 track a year!!

I would like to see a stock and mod sc class. Stock class with no boost, no timing. Its pretty sad when someone takes a stock truck and can run with the mods. Mod class should be run what-you-brung. This will also let all the newbies have a fair shot at winning a race or two.

a big PLUS 1 from me on this one.. I can remember when stock was about skill, now it seems its about who has a novak and who as a tekin with a boost.. lol

Stock should be stock, thats it, everything else, goes in mod.

Beef your my hero!

lol I'm my own hero...

lol I'm my own hero...
Your a sandwich?

MAN, Revo's like a ninja. Strikes when you least expect it. Should call him lightning.

Now I'm not the fastest driver out there but let me tell you. I just pulled out the 17.5 in my sc last week just to go old school on everyone. Yes I could drive it, but my electronics were smoking at the end of my main. The following Wed, ran the same truck with a 8.5 and turned 1 more lap than with the 17.5. Just goes to show that if you get consistent enough running a mod, you will never be able to beat your lap times with a stock motor, plain and simple, the truck is just faster on all parts of the track. And cooler!

Love the staggered/inverted starts, improves everyone's driving skills. This crazy RC stuff is all about fun no matter where you finish.

don't matter where I start so I guess it doesn't matter. By the end of the first lap im always last


As far as stock and mod. I like to run mod. I don't do it all the times but when i am running my sc, but it sure is nice. I guess if the only skill for mod is to handle the power then I say handle it and go around someone slower.

And as far as stock being not about skill. Holy crap when is the last time you tried running stock sc. I dare say running stock sc at pg right now is more of a challenge than running mod. (could be that there are more of us)

Okay I've vented on all that. As for what we should run this summer. What I hate is every weekend there is a big race and you have to pay 40 or 50 bucks to race. It gets crazy, but I wouldn't mind having a nice points race this summer, but I am with kerby in saying that 5 or 6 is too much. Why not take the northern lights series and just extend it to all the other classes?

Okay I've vented on all that. As for what we should run this summer. What I hate is every weekend there is a big race and you have to pay 40 or 50 bucks to race. It gets crazy, but I wouldn't mind having a nice points race this summer, but I am with kerby in saying that 5 or 6 is too much. Why not take the northern lights series and just extend it to all the other classes?
Guess you havent seen the summer schedule that has been out for almost a month already?

http://www.teamvirusracing.com/sites/default/files/2011-PG-Schedule.jpg

Guess you havent seen the summer schedule that has been out for almost a month already?

http://www.teamvirusracing.com/sites/default/files/2011-PG-Schedule.jpg

Sorry Revo. You guys have a new thread going up every week I can't keep track of where everything is. Nobody said, "Hey we started a proving grounds 2011 thread on hobby talk."

Guess I better just put out a bunch of spider crawlers to try and keep up.

Sorry Revo. You guys have a new thread going up every week I can't keep track of where everything is. Nobody said, "Hey we started a proving grounds 2011 thread on hobby talk."

Guess I better just put out a bunch of spider crawlers to try and keep up.
Come on now spunky. All of these threads were started back in February and March. Nothing new here in months. :thumbsup:

I just found it yesterday. I guess nobody tells me about them cause they don't want me posting on them all the time.

I guess I will try to lay out better jokes like you do Revo or just give up posting

Oh man, don't be like me! I'm more of a smart ass than most people can handle. But your welcome to post anytime you want to.

I will be adding a couple new threads real soon though. For the Northern Nationals and the Michigan State Championship race coming up this fall.

I might have an idea on how to bring the electric and nitro guys together: Have a race day where electric guys have the chance to run a nitro car. I would be willing to have my cars available for a couple of electric guys to try out and I am sure that there are others that would be willing to do so to. It seems that there is such a high wall between the electric and nitro guys and maybe it is about time to start breaking down that wall. We are all in the hobby to have fun and maybe with more people that cross over from one into the other (both ways), we might be able to grow attendance at both types of events.

I'm not sure that the "wall" between nitro and electric is as big of a deal as it once was. We have had so many nitro guys break into the electric RC racing world in the last year and a half that many of the electric guys are open to nitro RC racing now.

But anything is worth a try.

I'm not sure that the "wall" between nitro and electric is as big of a deal as it once was. We have had so many nitro guys break into the electric RC racing world in the last year and a half that many of the electric guys are open to nitro RC racing now.

But anything is worth a try.

The idea kind of came about this past Sunday, where me and Terry were at PG for Nitro Practice and one of the electric guys showed up to clean up his workshop and volunteered to marshall for us for a little while, which was excellent. In return I offered him to have him drive my MBX6, as he had never driven a nitro car and he was surprised how much harder it was to drive a nitro 1/8th scale than he expected. By offering the option to run a nitro car, people might actually like to have the experience without having to purchase a nitro car without knowing if they would like it or not. :thumbsup:

I can only speak for myself so I will. Again this is only my feelings. I know some people cant stand the smell of nitro so that created the wall so to speak in the indoor season. I know I don't even want to smell it indoors. I went and raced nitro indoors once at the old dirtburners and my god was that aweful. But outdoors during the somer on saturday nights, if there is going to be a heat of elec 1/8th's I dont see a problem with the nitro's running too. In there own heat I mean. Some may or may not go for running them together, but if its out side , I dont see a problem. Hell some of you nitro sniffin tweakers might bring some electric stuff with you to run with the cool kids. :wave:

I have almost a full gallon of o'donnell nitro fuel i'd be willing to sell cheap.

I can only speak for myself so I will. Again this is only my feelings. I know some people cant stand the smell of nitro so that created the wall so to speak in the indoor season. I know I don't even want to smell it indoors. I went and raced nitro indoors once at the old dirtburners and my god was that aweful. But outdoors during the somer on saturday nights, if there is going to be a heat of elec 1/8th's I dont see a problem with the nitro's running too. In there own heat I mean. Some may or may not go for running them together, but if its out side , I dont see a problem. Hell some of you nitro sniffin tweakers might bring some electric stuff with you to run with the cool kids. :wave:

I can fully understand the disliking of nitro fuel indoors, but I appreciate that you are open to nitro being part of the program outdoors. The combination might actually bring out more people and create an even more family oriented program, as 'dad' might want to run nitro, but 'son' has a SC. By combining both, the chances that 'dad' and 'son' would come out will increase significantly! Great discussion! :thumbsup:

I have almost a full gallon of o'donnell nitro fuel i'd be willing to sell cheap.

Speed Blend (clear bottle with orange fuel) or the original (white bottle) O'Donnell?

umm the jug is white. I will be at PG on sat if you want me to bring it let me know

umm the jug is white. I will be at PG on sat if you want me to bring it let me know

Sorry, I switched over to the Speed Blend, but I am sure there are other guys that would be interested. Send Honda_Stuntboy a PM, he still runs the original blend.

What Len said +1

Hey guys in case you have not seen this video before, its pretty damn cool, check it out.

YouTube - World Record R/C Car Jump

Now my question to all of you. If we build a ramp and set up a spot to attempt to break this record, how many of you would like to be part of the attempt to set a new world RC jump record? We could open it to 1/8th nitro and electric. Also, why not see what we can do with our SC's, and 1/10th buggy and trucks? Why not try to establish world records with those also? So I am looking for an idea of how many of you would be interested in being part of an event of this type, let me know your thoughts on this idea, thanks.

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/attachment.php?attachmentid=133031&d=1305857729

Going to start up this thread for one purpose. To complain, bitch, and discuss anything that ticks you off in the world of RC, local or nationwide. Trust me there is plenty to discuss! :thumbsup:

Anyone feel free to jump in and speak your mind. Only thing I don't want is arguing. If you have a different opinion you can express it, just don't attack anyone if they feel different than you do. Convince us that your opinion is better if you want. Just keep it civil.

hahhahahahahaha

Haven't even said anything yet and Dart knows exactly what I am talking about.

Okay, Im going to start with a simple thing here that just makes my skin crawl every time I see it. Its a huge race, all the top drivers are there and you go to look at the images from the race and every time you stumble into the guy wearing black socks pulled up to his knees. What the hell is up with that? I can respect the bermuda shorts, but why the black socks and why pulled up as far as they will go? I know, someone is going to say, thats the style on the West Coast. Sorry dewwd, but the only place knee socks look good is on a female 20 year old stripper trying to work her way through college.

The image named "oldman" shows what these guys are going to look like in 40 years.

Okay, Im going to start with a simple thing here that just makes my skin crawl every time I see it. Its a huge race, all the top drivers are there and you go to look at the images from the race and every time you stumble into the guy wearing black socks pulled up to his knees. What the hell is up with that? I can respect the bermuda shorts, but why the black socks and why pulled up as far as they will go? I know, someone is going to say, thats the style on the West Coast. Sorry dewwd, but the only place knee socks look good is on a female 20 year old stripper trying to work her way through college.

The image named "oldman" shows what these guys are going to look like in 40 years.

dude that is the most awsome quote EVER on hobbytalk. thank you

I really get ticked off when people on the driver stand tells you to "shut it" because you are trying to get a marshall attention while he was not watching is corner, complaining that you are yelling into his ears, and then A MINUTE LATER in the sasme race DOES THE EXACT SAME THING because he crashed and the marshall wasn't looking.

So, it's OK for him to do it, but he has to tell me to "shut it" when I do it... Really ?????????

So first, I can understand it is anoying to hear somebody yelling at the marshall... => One solution to that is to WATCH YOUR CORNER WHEN YOU MARSHALL and PAY ATTENTION, because I am not going to sit there waiting for you to look at my car when you are not doing what you are supposed to do...

Second, if you are complaining that somebody does something you don't like, YOU BETTER NOT DO IT YOURSELF...

shut it champ....lol

The weather this year in West MI is really pissing me off..... It's about to June and my track is still covered in 2" of water.... I've only been able to race outdoors once this year and even that race got almost rained out.... :-(

Next its going to be 90 and real humid. No fun being out in that crap either.

Yeah the weather has pretty much blown this year so far..... figures the year I get back into racing Nitro!!!

i havnt had a chance to even touch the big track yet. sucks bad

I HATE PEOPLE BITCHING ABOUT TRACKS!!!!!!!!
ITS FFFFFNNNNNNNNNN OFF ROAD !!!!
IT CAN BE HARD PACKED OR LOAMY WHO THE F CARES
ITS OFF ROAD damn get over it allready.

I HATE PEOPLE BITCHING ABOUT TRACKS!!!!!!!!
ITS FFFFFNNNNNNNNNN OFF ROAD !!!!
IT CAN BE HARD PACKED OR LOAMY WHO THE F CARES
ITS OFF ROAD damn get over it allready.
Amen brother. When I hear someone cry that a track is to hard and they want to see a rooster tail, I just laugh. These same people say stupid stuff like, on a hard track you only run a couple different tires like barcodes or double dee's. Well duh, on a soft track you only run a few tires like goosebumps or step pins. Whats the difference? Want to be a great racer? You need to learn how to run on ALL track surfaces! The moral to this story, dont limit yourself. Winners train, losers complain. :thumbsup: