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Jerzferno
05-05-2010, 03:25 PM
I like statistics, so I will keep this up to date. Here are the single lap records for each class. Leaving out full last names incase anyone is opposed to it? In the event of a tied record, ill just add the names. So from left to right is longest to shortest time with the record.
Novice
Shayna M. 12.2
Open Monster
Brian C. 25.1
Slash Spec Oval
Matt Sm. 11.9
1/10 Truck Off Road
Matt St. 25.7
1/10th Buggy Off Road
Derek Z. 27.0
Sprint Car
Brian C. 9.6
Short course Mod
J.T. 24.2
1/8 Nitro Buggy
Steven Fo. 23.6
1/8 electric Buggy
Nick D. 23.2
1/10 4WD Buggy Off Road
Tobey H. 24.0
Late Model
Adam Z. 9.5
EDM
Brian Sr. 9.7
Slash Spec Off Road
Steven Fo. 29.5

solographix
05-05-2010, 03:31 PM
Woo Hoo I posted the single fasted lap on the oval this weekend!

I actually ran three 9.5's back to back in that race.

spikeitaudi
05-05-2010, 03:42 PM
I like statistics, so I will keep this up to date. Here are the single lap records for each class. Leaving out full last names incase anyone is opposed to it? In the event of a tied record, ill just add the names. So from left to right is longest to shortest time with the record.
Novice
Shayna M. 12.2
Open Monster
Brian C. 25.1
Slash Spec Oval
Matt Sm. 11.9
1/10 Truck Off Road
Matt St. 25.7
1/10th Buggy Off Road
Derek Z. 27.0
Sprint Car
Brian C. 9.6
Short course Mod
J.T. 24.2
1/8 Nitro Buggy
Steven Fo. 23.6
1/8 electric Buggy
Nick D. 23.2
1/10 4WD Buggy Off Road
Tobey H. 24.0
Late Model
Adam Z. 9.5
EDM
Brian Sr. 9.7
Slash Spec Off Road
Steven Fo. 29.5

Add some lines inbetween each class. Alittle hard to read like that.

Tug Speedman
05-05-2010, 03:44 PM
Bob pm

ta_man
05-05-2010, 03:46 PM
Woo Hoo I posted the single fasted lap on the oval this weekend!

I actually ran three 9.5's back to back in that race.

I don't think so. I've got the sprint heat sheet for the first qualifier that shows a 9.4 lap for my car.

BTW, sent you a PM.

solographix
05-05-2010, 04:05 PM
I don't think so. I've got the sprint heat sheet for the first qualifier that shows a 9.4 lap for my car.

BTW, sent you a PM.

I don't have the car with me, I will let you know when I get home. I can tell you I never temped the car because I could easily touch the motor and it was only warm.

Lap Traffic
05-05-2010, 04:06 PM
Bob pm

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Jerzferno
05-05-2010, 04:16 PM
I don't think so. I've got the sprint heat sheet for the first qualifier that shows a 9.4 lap for my car.

BTW, sent you a PM.

Well Im not privied to that information, so this is what you get. If the system can do that, we should turn on that function. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ you try to do something and POW.

Jerzferno
05-05-2010, 04:20 PM
Mains Single Lap Record

Novice
Shayna M. 12.2

Open Monster
Brian C. 25.1

Slash Spec Oval
Matt Sm. 11.9

1/10 Truck Off Road
Matt Stef. 25.7

1/10th Buggy Off Road
Derek Z. 27.0

Sprint Car
Brian C. 9.6

Short course Mod
J.T. 24.2

1/8 Nitro Buggy
Steven Fo. 23.6

1/8 electric Buggy
Nick D. 23.2

1/10 4WD Buggy Off Road
Tobey H. 24.0

Late Model
Adam Z. 9.5

EDM
Brian Sr. 9.7

Slash Spec Off Road
Steven Fo. 29.5

ta_man
05-05-2010, 04:22 PM
Well Im not privied to that information, so this is what you get. If the system can do that, we should turn on that function. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ you try to do something and POW.
The problem has always been that the results page never showed any lap times from the qualifiers. In fact, qualifier lap times are usually faster and lap counts are usually higher than in the mains because there is less traffic.

That might not be the case any more for off-road because of what I pointed out earlier. The short first lap gives an apparent advantage to race counts/times in the mains over the heats by about 18 seconds.

Lap Traffic
05-05-2010, 04:22 PM
Stepson PM

Grumpynm
05-05-2010, 07:05 PM
Woo Hoo I posted the single fasted lap on the oval this weekend!

I actually ran three 9.5's back to back in that race.

9.7 not bad for EDM...it is strange to see myself with the fast lap....I will enjoy it..till next week anyhow....

tobamiester
05-05-2010, 10:12 PM
DR folks, I got a stock Slash 2WD RTR ( Jerry WhelChel edition) RTR for sale.

Its been raced once indoors at Dirtrunners, and ran outdoors once in a car park. Selling for a friend.
Has a little road-rash on the roof of the body but in general is in new condition. Comes in box with paperwork and radio. PM me if interested. Retails around $220. Asking here first before hitting HT/Rctech etc.

All you need is a battery/charger and you can get in on a competitive/cost effective class at DirtRunners.

PM me if your interested.

Gary NJ
05-05-2010, 10:12 PM
I made a couple changes to the results and Wayne was able to get the TQ times and lap times included.

We had an issue in a few off road classes where the first few racers were not getting their first lap counted - after my short course mod main, this was corrected - there was a delay time setting for the first lap we shortened from 5 seconds to 3 seconds. There should be no more missed laps.

I did not adjust one of the short course mains because there were several short lap times and I do not what happened to cause them, so it is difficult to correct them. I believe I fixed all the other issues in the results, there were none after the short course mod main when we made the change.

Results: http://www.DirtRunners.com

For those lacking Flash (Buy a new computer ;) ): http://www.dirtrunners.com/documents/Mains%2005-02-2010.htm (http://www.dirtrunners.com/documents/Mains%2005-02-2010.htm)

Nick - The first lap time delay is set to work just the opposite of the way you have it set. It is there for a situation like ours where you start just before the loop, and would otherwise have short first laps. The delay is set so no one counts the first time over the loop - counting starts the second time you cross. If our first laps were always at least 3 seconds, and our fastest full lap was say 23 seconds, you'd set the first lap delay for something like 25 seconds. The loop wouldn't go live until 25 seconds after the horn sounds. If you want to count the short first lap, why have the delay set to anything other than 0 - the loop should go live as soon as the horn sounds.

B&B doesn't have a true short lap lockout like most scoring programs do; it has a feature call 'lap time check' that when set to 'auto' looks at a racer's laps and decides if there are irregularities and flags any long or short ones :rolleyes: I suspect we don't have that set to auto, because I never see any flagging in the lap times. You can also set it manually to flag below a certain time, and over a certain time. I suspect we also don't set that, again, because I never see flags. The program doesn't 'do' anything with the flags - the race director is supposed to look at the results after each heat or main and determine what happened to set the flag, and make any adjustments (add or remove laps) manually. Again - I suspect we don't take any actions on short laps or long (missed) ones. That B main in SC Mod had a lot of goofy stuff happen, and it altered the results and the bumpups - not good.

There is a reason tracks are buying RC Scoring Pro, or even J-Lap...

ta_man
05-05-2010, 10:30 PM
Nick - The first lap time delay is set to work just the opposite of the way you have it set. It is there for a situation like ours where you start just before the loop, and would otherwise have short first laps. The delay is set so no one counts the first time over the loop - counting starts the second time you cross. If our first laps were always at least 3 seconds, and our fastest full lap was say 23 seconds, you'd set the first lap delay for something like 25 seconds. The loop wouldn't go live until 25 seconds after the horn sounds. If you want to count the short first lap, why have the delay set to anything other than 0 - the loop should go live as soon as the horn sounds.

I get the impression people like the idea of a short first lap even though it invalidates any comparison of heat laps to laps in the main on the off-road track.

Jerzferno
05-05-2010, 10:35 PM
Nick - The first lap time delay is set to work just the opposite of the way you have it set. It is there for a situation like ours where you start just before the loop, and would otherwise have short first laps. The delay is set so no one counts the first time over the loop - counting starts the second time you cross. If our first laps were always at least 3 seconds, and our fastest full lap was say 23 seconds, you'd set the first lap delay for something like 25 seconds. The loop wouldn't go live until 25 seconds after the horn sounds. If you want to count the short first lap, why have the delay set to anything other than 0 - the loop should go live as soon as the horn sounds.

B&B doesn't have a true short lap lockout like most scoring programs do; it has a feature call 'lap time check' that when set to 'auto' looks at a racer's laps and decides if there are irregularities and flags any long or short ones :rolleyes: I suspect we don't have that set to auto, because I never see any flagging in the lap times. You can also set it manually to flag below a certain time, and over a certain time. I suspect we also don't set that, again, because I never see flags. The program doesn't 'do' anything with the flags - the race director is supposed to look at the results after each heat or main and determine what happened to set the flag, and make any adjustments (add or remove laps) manually. Again - I suspect we don't take any actions on short laps or long (missed) ones. That B main in SC Mod had a lot of goofy stuff happen, and it altered the results and the bumpups - not good.

There is a reason tracks are buying RC Scoring Pro, or even J-Lap...

I noticed the Short Course Mod B main "goofy stuff" too.

Gary NJ
05-05-2010, 10:38 PM
I get the impression people like the idea of a short first lap even though it invalidates any comparison of heat laps to laps in the main on the off-road track.

With IFMAR qualifying it never exactly maps anyway, but if you eliminate the short first lap it is much more comparable from the qualifier to the main.

Lap Traffic
05-06-2010, 11:01 AM
pre-regs May 16th.

May not run open monster.

Bob:
Sprint Car, Spektrum, PT 6197826
Late Model, Spektrum, PT 3587421
Open Monster, Spektrum, PT3844649
4X4 Slash Off Road, Spektrum, PT5500146

Stephen:
I/8 Scale, Spektrum, PT9522671
Slash Off Road, Spektrum, PT5500146
Late Model, Spektrum, PT6236878

Tug Speedman
05-06-2010, 11:14 AM
DR folks, I got a stock Slash 2WD RTR ( Jerry WhelChel edition) RTR for sale.

Its been raced once indoors at Dirtrunners, and ran outdoors once in a car park. Selling for a friend.
Has a little road-rash on the roof of the body but in general is in new condition. Comes in box with paperwork and radio. PM me if interested. Retails around $220. Asking here first before hitting HT/Rctech etc.

All you need is a battery/charger and you can get in on a competitive/cost effective class at DirtRunners.

PM me if your interested.

Looks clean Toby.

solographix
05-06-2010, 11:30 AM
I get the impression people like the idea of a short first lap even though it invalidates any comparison of heat laps to laps in the main on the off-road track.

I don't think that people "like" the idea, it just doesn't matter to some of us. I race within the circumstances presented to me and try to have fun doing it.

Jerzferno
05-06-2010, 11:40 AM
I don't think that people "like" the idea, it just doesn't matter to some of us. I race within the circumstances presented to me and try to have fun doing it.

Since its the same for everybody, it shouldnt be a big deal.

ta_man
05-06-2010, 11:48 AM
Since its the same for everybody, it shouldnt be a big deal.
But it is not the same for the heats and the mains and so the records don't reflect reality.

Jerzferno
05-06-2010, 11:50 AM
But it is not the same for the heats and the mains and so the records don't reflect reality.

Are we talking about this short first lap, time delay thing?

tobamiester
05-06-2010, 11:51 AM
Pre-Reg for May 16th :thumbsup:

Toby
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E1/8 Buggy Offroad, PT 9043551, Spektrum
1/10 4WD Mod Buggy Offroad, PT5741373, Spektrum
1/10 Short Course Modified Offroad, PT4743924, Spektrum
Slash Spec Offroad, PT4590526, Spektrum
1/8 Nitro Late Model Oval, PT9063036, Spektrum


Lucas
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1/10 Mod Truck Offroad, Club Transponder, Spektrum
Slash Spec Offroad, Club Transponder, Spektrum

Gary NJ
05-06-2010, 12:15 PM
Are we talking about this short first lap, time delay thing?

Yes. Actually, if we would set the first lap time delay to 22 seconds, and start everyone on the front straight after the jumps, but before the loop, the qualifying laps with IFMAR starting and the mains with a heads up start would be virtually identical - at least within two or three seconds of each other at most. For the pole position car it would be almost identical, I'd guess.

nicwald
05-06-2010, 12:44 PM
Yes. Actually, if we would set the first lap time delay to 22 seconds, and start everyone on the front straight after the jumps, but before the loop, the qualifying laps with IFMAR starting and the mains with a heads up start would be virtually identical - at least within two or three seconds of each other at most. For the pole position car it would be almost identical, I'd guess.


Gary,

I think that makes a lot of sense, and would avoid the inevitable collision on the front straight jumps on the starts. We origianlly were going to have a different starting point, but that didn's get implemented before the first heats. This is probably the best way to go with it. I could then set the records to the TQ times and we can go from there.

solographix
05-06-2010, 12:50 PM
Yes. Actually, if we would set the first lap time delay to 22 seconds, and start everyone on the front straight after the jumps, but before the loop, the qualifying laps with IFMAR starting and the mains with a heads up start would be virtually identical - at least within two or three seconds of each other at most. For the pole position car it would be almost identical, I'd guess.

Sounds familiar. I suggested this a few pages back and got shut down.

daz
05-06-2010, 01:12 PM
Pre-Reg for May 16th

1/10 4WD Mod Buggy Offroad
1/10 Short Course Modified Offroad
1/10 Mod Truck Offroad

all club Transponder

cleaned and fixed the stable today ....:thumbsup:

spikeitaudi
05-06-2010, 02:00 PM
Pre-Reg for May 16th

1/10 4WD Mod Buggy Offroad
1/10 Short Course Modified Offroad
1/10 Mod Truck Offroad

all club Transponder

cleaned and fixed the stable today ....:thumbsup:

Your up on me. I haven't touched them since Sunday yet. :)

Jerzferno
05-06-2010, 02:33 PM
Sounds familiar. I suggested this a few pages back and got shut down.

All you are good for is smoothing the track with a bag I guess?

Tug Speedman
05-06-2010, 02:35 PM
Toby, pm

tobamiester
05-06-2010, 02:51 PM
Toby, pm

got it. u got one now too.

solographix
05-06-2010, 03:19 PM
Steve PM

Gary NJ
05-06-2010, 05:17 PM
Sounds familiar. I suggested this a few pages back and got shut down.

It's always hard to be ahead of your time... ;)

stampede12
05-06-2010, 05:53 PM
hello! about 3 days ago i had bought a used slash then today i had noticed the front bumper screw were striped what should i do?

Lap Traffic
05-06-2010, 06:48 PM
hello! about 3 days ago i had bought a used slash then today i had noticed the front bumper screw were striped what should i do?

Congrats on the Slash purchase:thumbsup:

Which screw is it? Do you mean the threads don't hold or the hex in the head of the screw is stripped?

Go here: http://www.traxxas.com/products/electric/5805/trx_5805_views.htm

Look at Shock and Front assembly

Wayne Miele
05-07-2010, 05:47 AM
One of our guys is selling a platinum edition 4wd slash. Asking 380.00 with a lipo battery. If interested let me know.

Jerzferno
05-07-2010, 09:42 AM
Who could possibly be selling out of the hottest class at the track? We had an E main Sunday. When was the last time we had an E main? I dont think we had an E main at the last 3 Challenges?

tobamiester
05-07-2010, 10:06 AM
Guys, another SC truck if anyone in the club or reading this thread is interested. I have a NIB RTR SC10 with clear JConcepts body. PM Me. (Yes I am starting to feel like a Hobby shop....before someone says it :) )

It will be hitting RCTech/HT later today along with that Slash if no interest. Cheers.

Jerzferno
05-07-2010, 11:18 AM
One of our guys is selling a platinum edition 4wd slash. Asking 380.00 with a lipo battery. If interested let me know.

J.T...........................its calling you.

Kar Kingz
05-07-2010, 11:40 AM
i am interested in 4wd slash will he trade for a Factory team B4? Also don't need lipo.

Tug Speedman
05-07-2010, 11:44 AM
J.T...........................its calling you.

Money lol. so what's the verdict with the slayer in SC mod?

Jerzferno
05-07-2010, 11:56 AM
Money lol. so what's the verdict with the slayer in SC mod?

Electric or Nitro?

Tug Speedman
05-07-2010, 11:58 AM
nitro

Gary NJ
05-07-2010, 12:08 PM
nitro

No problem running it IMO...as long as you don't start the engine. ;)

Tug Speedman
05-07-2010, 12:11 PM
No problem running it IMO...as long as you don't start the engine. ;)

Why? worried about some competition?

Tug Speedman
05-07-2010, 12:13 PM
Bob, pm or at least I think it sent IDk.

Lap Traffic
05-07-2010, 12:20 PM
Bob, pm or at least I think it sent IDk.

Replied

Lap Traffic
05-07-2010, 12:24 PM
Money lol. so what's the verdict with the slayer in SC mod?

I run SC Mod and don't see a problem. We mix 1/8 scales. Plus the electrics have the advantage. But, what do I know.

Just my 2 cents.

Tug Speedman
05-07-2010, 12:35 PM
replied again Bob