View Full Version : Dirt Runners 2010 Outdoor Racing Season - Oak Ridge, NJ



Jerzferno
12-30-2009, 09:35 PM
Thanks now its just a matter of what truck or car ill run.:)

What do you have?

rcworkshopp
12-30-2009, 09:36 PM
What do you have?

must be an echo in here. lol

Jerzferno
12-30-2009, 09:38 PM
must be an echo in here. lol

You beat me by less than a minute. Itll be closer than that on the track. LOL

rcworkshopp
12-30-2009, 09:42 PM
You beat me by less than a minute. Itll be closer than that on the track. LOL

What! No way man... It was a whole minute. LOL

tobamiester
12-31-2009, 12:07 AM
Steve, Late Models 2pm-5pm Speed Channel, Saturday 2nd :)

Jerzferno
12-31-2009, 05:21 AM
Thanks Tobey. DVR is set.

high voltage
12-31-2009, 05:43 AM
hey everyone, like to wish everyone a happy and safe new year, april is just around the corner,

Jerzferno
12-31-2009, 06:33 AM
Same to you Paul. Yes it is. Cant wait!!

Lap Traffic
12-31-2009, 07:40 AM
How about 1/8 scale, this class could be thinning.

Stephen will still run 1/8. Providing it is a class:o

Jerzferno
12-31-2009, 10:57 AM
Stephen will still run 1/8. Providing it is a class:o

Yea what a shame this class has turned out to be only one heat and main each week. 3 years ago we constantly got 3 heats and usually A/B/C mains. Dont know what happened to the class? Its not because of the E/8's. Paul and I are the only nitro buggys to convert to electric. All the others went electric from the beginning. Hard to understand the ever changing dymanics of this hobby.

tobamiester
12-31-2009, 11:05 AM
Yea what a shame this class has turned out to be only one heat and main each week. 3 years ago we constantly got 3 heats and usually A/B/C mains. Dont know what happened to the class? Its not because of the E/8's. Paul and I are the only nitro buggys to convert to electric. All the others went electric from the beginning. Hard to understand the ever changing dymanics of this hobby.

Yup. 1/8 Nitro Buggy is one of my favorites to watch/marshall. If ever I get into Nitro, it'll be this class (and Late models :rolleyes: ) . For now, I'll be running to E1/8 in 2010..Allready rebuilt my RC8e, sitting on the shelf.

Lap Traffic
12-31-2009, 11:05 AM
Yea what a shame this class has turned out to be only one heat and main each week. 3 years ago we constantly got 3 heats and usually A/B/C mains. Dont know what happened to the class? Its not because of the E/8's. Paul and I are the only nitro buggys to convert to electric. All the others went electric from the beginning. Hard to understand the ever changing dymanics of this hobby.

Yea, it used to be the premier class. If it's dead, Stephen has the world's most expensive shelf queen:cry: (paid for by the Bank of Dad of course)

TamiyaKing
12-31-2009, 02:03 PM
must be an echo in here. lol

I got lots mainly tamiya of course alot of them stock i got some old vintage trucks lots of stuff,my tamiya ta-02 runs well on dirt oval tracks.

TamiyaKing
12-31-2009, 02:06 PM
Almost forgot i got my hpi mt2 nitro truck with a new os .18 and it hauls :thumbsup:

Jerzferno
12-31-2009, 03:23 PM
So what classes are you planning on running? Unless you have a truggy, 1/8th scale buggy, or a 1/8th scale late model, thats about all the nitro that shows up anymore.

ta_man
12-31-2009, 03:46 PM
So what classes are you planning on running? Unless you have a truggy, 1/8th scale buggy, or a 1/8th scale late model, thats about all the nitro that shows up anymore.
Yes, it is getting to the point that the only break I will have is Novice.:lol:

Duck395
12-31-2009, 05:15 PM
from our family to all of yours. happy new year!
my son and i are grateful that we started with dirtrunners for its
full of first class people. enjoy and be safe.

radsnappy
12-31-2009, 05:25 PM
happy new year everyone!!!:wave:

ta_man
01-01-2010, 12:05 AM
Happy New Year!

Lap Traffic
01-01-2010, 12:11 AM
Happy New Year!

TamiyaKing
01-01-2010, 03:37 AM
So what classes are you planning on running? Unless you have a truggy, 1/8th scale buggy, or a 1/8th scale late model, thats about all the nitro that shows up anymore.

The nitro truck i got is 1/10 but i can run my evader st,or my tamiya ta-02 as well.

rcworkshopp
01-01-2010, 09:38 AM
The nitro truck i got is 1/10 but i can run my evader st,or my tamiya ta-02 as well.

I have tons of tamiya stuff like the ta02 and ff01 and others. Don't know how you would race them. But it would be cool to see them try.

tobamiester
01-01-2010, 10:13 AM
The nitro truck i got is 1/10 but i can run my evader st,or my tamiya ta-02 as well.

Wayne will usually find a class you can run in, no matter what you bring. Likely those cars would get run on 2WD Mod Truck Offroad.

Gary NJ
01-01-2010, 04:20 PM
Yea what a shame this class has turned out to be only one heat and main each week. 3 years ago we constantly got 3 heats and usually A/B/C mains. Dont know what happened to the class? Its not because of the E/8's. Paul and I are the only nitro buggys to convert to electric. All the others went electric from the beginning. Hard to understand the ever changing dynamics of this hobby.

It's not the dynamics of the hobby, Steve, it's the dynamics of DR. Everywhere else 1/8th nitro is still the predominant outdoor racing class, although the emergence of the 2wd SCTs is the real deal as far as a widespread trend. When you have a club that runs 15 classes (give or take a few) expect this kind of ebb and flow to occur regularly.

Is the date set for the rules meeting yet? Is it possible that it won't be on the same weekend as one of the biggest RC races in NE, as it has been for the past 3 years :confused: ? (Weekend of Feb 20th)

Happy New Year to all!

spikeitaudi
01-01-2010, 05:12 PM
Happy New years all.

Jerzferno
01-01-2010, 05:18 PM
Theres been a lot of talk about scale appearance of SC truck tires. Heres pics of a real SC truck, a Sotck Slash and a Slash with 1/8th scale wheels. You be the judge. I voet for the tries made specifically for short course racing. Those 1/8th scale tires are too BIG!

tobamiester
01-01-2010, 05:39 PM
Theres been a lot of talk about scale appearance of SC truck tires. Heres pics of a real SC truck, a Sotck Slash and a Slash with 1/8th scale wheels. You be the judge. I voet for the tries made specifically for short course racing. Those 1/8th scale tires are too BIG!

So Steve, you don't like the AKA Pro-5 SC Rims with 1/8 Buggy Goosebumps ?

Jerzferno
01-01-2010, 05:51 PM
So Steve, you don't like the AKA Pro-5 SC Rims with 1/8 Buggy Goosebumps ?

Me personally, No I dont like the look of 1/8th scale tires on a short course truck. The appeal of these trucks to me is they are one of the closest looking RC cars to a real life vehicle. Just as late models, sprint cars, and EDMs are as well. I think they need to remain that way. We cant have a class where costs are unlimited. Even in a mod class. Not everyone has deep pockets. A set of buggy rims and tires can run in the area of 60 bucks. Yes 1/8th scale tires are better than the specifically made short course tires. Better compounds, and way way more choices. So we let the one or two guys who want to run those tires use them. It most likely those two trcuks will be on the podium each week. And for the guys who cant afford those tires, I can see them getting tired of not getting a top 3 and fading away. Do we want that? No. The AKA rims look nice and are specifically made for short course racing. But it ends there. No one makes 1/8th scale tires specifically for short course racing. They are for 1/8th scale off road buggies. I believe the words specifically made for short course racing will appear in the rules. Seems to be the trend? But i can be wrong. Im only one of 9 (so far) and only get 1/9th the vote. Majority rules. We'll see how the chips fall. My vote is realistic looking vehicles run this class. If majority says 1/8th scale are allowed, then Ill just have to whoop you with SC tires. LOL

Duck395
01-01-2010, 07:20 PM
Theres been a lot of talk about scale appearance of SC truck tires. Heres pics of a real SC truck, a Sotck Slash and a Slash with 1/8th scale wheels. You be the judge. I voet for the tries made specifically for short course racing. Those 1/8th scale tires are too BIG!

i have to agree the whole point of this class is so it does look scale.

so that actually makes 3 out of nine. lol

besides why let the costs spiral out of control if you dont have to.

ill be honest, the whole reason i got back into this stuff is because auto racing has
gotten way too expensive.if we let this get out of control i might as well go back to that.that being said i dont think this should be a spec class either. i think if we all put our heads together well come up with an awesome class. just my 2 cents. if anyone disagrees with me its cool. we are all equal. i respect everyones opinion. its all good.

ta_man
01-01-2010, 07:34 PM
Me personally, No I dont like the look of 1/8th scale tires on a short course truck. The appeal of these trucks to me is they are one of the closest looking RC cars to a real life vehicle. Just as late models, sprint cars, and EDMs are as well. I think they need to remain that way. We cant have a class where costs are unlimited. Even in a mod class. Not everyone has deep pockets. A set of buggy rims and tires can run in the area of 60 bucks. Yes 1/8th scale tires are better than the specifically made short course tires. Better compounds, and way way more choices. So we let the one or two guys who want to run those tires use them. It most likely those two trcuks will be on the podium each week. And for the guys who cant afford those tires, I can see them getting tired of not getting a top 3 and fading away. Do we want that? No. The AKA rims look nice and are specifically made for short course racing. But it ends there. No one makes 1/8th scale tires specifically for short course racing. They are for 1/8th scale off road buggies. I believe the words specifically made for short course racing will appear in the rules. Seems to be the trend? But i can be wrong. Im only one of 9 (so far) and only get 1/9th the vote. Majority rules. We'll see how the chips fall. My vote is realistic looking vehicles run this class. If majority says 1/8th scale are allowed, then Ill just have to whoop you with SC tires. LOL
While I understand and accept your point about realism, the point about cost is not as valid. The J-Concepts Rulux wheels with J-Concepts Goose Bumps tires in the 2.2/3.0 size is $52.88 from Tower vs the mounted Pro-5 City Blocks being $59.98. The difference is $7.10. Unless you run what is on the truck until they wear out the difference in cost, while it exits, is not that much. Sure you have to add in the cost of the adapters ($30-$40) but If someone is running 1/8th scale and the SC trucks, they might end up saving money because they could find that a set of tires they bought to try on the 1/8th and didn't work would be suitable and work well on the SCT. Of course, then those tires are on dish wheels, and you'll hate that because it gets back to the first point.

i have to agree the whole point of this class is so it does look scale.

so that actually makes 3 out of nine. lol

besides why let the costs spiral out of control if you dont have to.

ill be honest, the whole reason i got back into this stuff is because auto racing has
gotten way too expensive.if we let this get out of control i might as well go back to that.that being said i dont think this should be a spec class either. i think if we all put our heads together well come up with an awesome class. just my 2 cents. if anyone disagrees with me its cool. we are all equal. i respect everyones opinion. its all good.
If this were the original Slash Spec class, I would and do agree with you about cost containment. But this is a mod class starting aout with a $390 truck and $53 in tires to begin with. There is will probably be guys showing up (eventually) with the Ofna and Jammin 4WD SCTs too.

dano628
01-01-2010, 07:50 PM
It all comes back to scale appearance and the 1/8 tires and wheels on a SC look like 22" rims on a full size truck . Just my opinion

Jerzferno
01-01-2010, 08:07 PM
I hope so Mark. Thats the whole idea. Any 4x4 Electric SC truck. Any after market parts specifically made for short course trucks. Dirt Runners battery rules apply. Must maintain a realistic look. Very simple I think. That pretty much opens the door wide open for just about anything. Well, no sense in beating this up here and now. February is when it counts at the rules meeting. As for the tires and rims I have, come race day, if everyone else has the stock tires, ill run stock tires too.

Jerzferno
01-01-2010, 08:10 PM
While I understand and accept your point about realism, the point about cost is not as valid. The J-Concepts Rulux wheels with J-Concepts Goose Bumps tires in the 2.2/3.0 size is $52.88 from Tower vs the mounted Pro-5 City Blocks being $59.98. The difference is $7.10. Unless you run what is on the truck until they wear out the difference in cost, while it exits, is not that much. Sure you have to add in the cost of the adapters ($30-$40) but If someone is running 1/8th scale and the SC trucks, they might end up saving money because they could find that a set of tires they bought to try on the 1/8th and didn't work would be suitable and work well on the SCT. Of course, then those tires are on dish wheels, and you'll hate that because it gets back to the first point.


If this were the original Slash Spec class, I would and do agree with you about cost containment. But this is a mod class starting aout with a $390 truck and $53 in tires to begin with. There is will probably be guys showing up (eventually) with the Ofna and Jammin 4WD SCTs too.

Mark, I didnt pay that much. Picked up a combo deal somewhere? It wasnt Tower I know that for sure. I think I paid in the low 40's for the combo set. Still a lot of money for tires and rims. I wont be stocking up on tires and rims for this class. One set is good for me. When they start to wear, then they will be replaced.

spikeitaudi
01-01-2010, 09:48 PM
1/8th scale tires on the Slash won't look real. I would say nah. But I'll say so at the rules meeting. :)

Lap Traffic
01-01-2010, 10:12 PM
I don't have a dog in the SC race yet, but +1 for keeping the realistic look. :cool:

dano628
01-01-2010, 10:16 PM
I don't have a dog in the SC race yet, but +1 for keeping the realistic look. :cool:

I see that "yet" . :cool:

Jerzferno
01-01-2010, 10:25 PM
Yea I saw that yet too Dano.

Lap Traffic
01-01-2010, 10:53 PM
Might be the only OFNA in the race.:)

never-gro-up
01-01-2010, 11:21 PM
has anybody checked the weights between different sct's yet

ta_man
01-01-2010, 11:51 PM
has anybody checked the weights between different sct's yet
Steve was supposed to get us weights of the following cars for comparison:

Slash 2WD
Slash 4X4
Slash 4X4 PE
Sprint Car
E-8

He hasn't posted this info yet.

ta_man
01-01-2010, 11:54 PM
Might be the only OFNA in the race.:)
That would be cool!

GeorgeW
01-02-2010, 01:03 AM
Womps at zeppelin hobbies saturday january 2 2010 6:00 p.m. Maybe even some talk about when to have the dirt runners rules meeting. We'll call it a pre meeting, spread the word. Charlie

Lap Traffic
01-02-2010, 07:35 AM
Womps at zeppelin hobbies saturday january 2 2010 6:00 p.m. Maybe even some talk about when to have the dirt runners rules meeting. We'll call it a pre meeting, spread the word. Charlie

See Ya there:wave:

Jerzferno
01-02-2010, 08:13 AM
Steve was supposed to get us weights of the following cars for comparison:

Slash 2WD
Slash 4X4
Slash 4X4 PE
Sprint Car
E-8

He hasn't posted this info yet.

As soon as Alvin gets his Platinum Edition this week, ill get the weights and post them.

never-gro-up
01-02-2010, 09:51 AM
and tires, i think 1/8 tires would just add extra weight and not look rite,but ill go with the flow. ray

rcworkshopp
01-02-2010, 10:04 AM
Do you guys think that having the 1/8 tires on makes that much of a difference? I remember when there was the race with two strikes and the one slash with the 1/8 and to me it did not seem he had any advantage. I know it does not look like a SC truck and I agree. But if people are worried about it having a advantage I don't think it would. There are more tire choices to pick from for the SC style trucks.

ta_man
01-02-2010, 12:16 PM
and tires, i think 1/8 tires would just add extra weight and not look rite,but ill go with the flow. ray
They do add weight. I weighed a 2WD slash tire/wheel (the 2.2/3.0 version) and it was 3.8 ounces. I weighed a 1/8th mounted holeshot and a 1/8th mounted (but worn) City Block and they were both 4.1 ounces. So a full set would add 1.2 ounces plus the weight of the adapters.

Interestingly the sizes are not as different as you would think from Steve's pics. The Slash tire was 4.27", the Holeshot was 4.35" and the City Block was 4.45". I doubt anyone could tell .18" difference in diameter from the drivers stand (well, maybe Tim) so if they were on the Pro-5 wheels, they wouldn't look so bad. Here's a pic of them on a SC10:
http://s92437987.onlinehome.us/ebaypics/Misc/pro-5.jpg

Do you guys think that having the 1/8 tires on makes that much of a difference? I remember when there was the race with two strikes and the one slash with the 1/8 and to me it did not seem he had any advantage. I know it does not look like a SC truck and I agree. But if people are worried about it having a advantage I don't think it would. There are more tire choices to pick from for the SC style trucks.

With the JConcepts Goose Bumps SC and ProLine Caliber SC, I don't think there is a tire advantage to the 1/8th tires. The reason I like them is simply because I have a bunch from my 1/8th scale E-buggy and adapters to use the 1/8th wheels is a one time cost (less than a set of SC tires/wheels) that lets me share tires between 2 cars. Of course, as pointed out, that sharing would mean I'd likely end up running the 1/8th dish wheels which the scale-appreciating guys hate. But from what Toby said, I think he already has the AKA Pro-5 wheels. If I were to run SC mod (either 2WD or 4WD) I could see getting a set of the Pro-5 wheels once I find out which of my assortment of 1/8th tires work well.

So maybe we could say 1/8th tires are allowed if mounted on realistic wheels.

rcworkshopp
01-02-2010, 12:26 PM
Ta Man,

How well does the suspension work with the 1/8 set up on it? I would think it hits the body a lot. How about the off set does it stick out of the body? I also remember how bounce it was over the jumps.

ta_man
01-02-2010, 12:57 PM
Ta Man,

How well does the suspension work with the 1/8 set up on it? I would think it hits the body a lot. How about the off set does it stick out of the body? I also remember how bounce it was over the jumps.
It was bouncy over the jumps because I had it set up for running on the street with really stiff springs. I only entered that race so there would be enough entries for the other guys to run that day. With proper adapters the track width is the same as with the OEM tires & wheels and the tires fit inside the body. Mine didn't rub the body.

GeorgeW
01-02-2010, 01:55 PM
One question I have on these tire rules, who is going to enforce them, any volunteers?