Bob,

I like your addition to the motor rules which clarifies the modding. Other than that they look identical.

Added a section on diffs.

The official name of the onsat body is Body By Brewster . I like the way Adam worded the 28 RTR section allowing .28 that came with the car until needing replacement . Good job guys :thumbsup::cool:

Just banter:confused:

That's serious stuff man. That Losi is going down:):cool:

Talk about starting the trash talking early . Havent even put my electronics in the MK II yet . Losi to the front !!! :tongue::cool:

Talk about starting the trash talking early . Havent even put my electronics in the MK II yet . Losi to the front !!! :tongue::cool:

I don't have electronics in either! :cool:

WOW! look at us, we almost have official rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:woohoo:

I have a question? is the mamba pro speed controller still legal to run outdoors. I'm not sure what the answer was last night. I need to buy a brushless esc for my sprinter and DO NOT want to waste $127.00

You can run it, but you have to promise to pull the trigger only 3/4.

:thumbsup:

You can run it, but you have to promise to pull the trigger only 3/4.

:thumbsup:

I though you had put a piece of fuel tubing on the back of the trigger to limit the travel.:hat:

Thank you. thats what I thought and they are cheaper than the Novak GTB. If I'm running with the Big Dogs in the sprint class I am going to have to run a 6.5 brushless

Actually, the MM Pro is only an advantage in the 21.5/17.5/13.5 classes - the 'boosted' ESCs don't have any impact in the open motor classes.

I just figured out how to flash the Tekin 203 firmware into the stock Traxxas ESC in my Slash - I'm gonna kick Wayne's azz this year... :p

I though you had put a piece of fuel tubing on the back of the trigger to limit the travel.:hat:

No, no, no Bob - you weren't paying attention yesterday. The fuel line on the trigger is only for the modded 28's and onroad 21s in L8 model. ;)

Actually, the MM Pro is only an advantage in the 21.5/17.5/13.5 classes - the 'boosted' ESCs don't have any impact in the open motor classes.


not at dirtrunners.:rolleyes:

No, no, no Bob - you weren't paying attention yesterday. The fuel line on the trigger is only for the modded 28's and onroad 21s in L8 model. ;)

Oh, I must have missed that:rolleyes:. Throttle trigger limiter, a new marketing opportunity for GMK Supply.:):thumbsup::cool:

As far as Losi vs Ofna they are both good .( That whole Ofna Losi banter on the board during race season is just for fun ) Since the Losi shares most of its parts with the 8b and 2.0 you can get most of the parts at Cruizin or Crispy Critters . Any starter box can be converted to work on the Losi but another nice thing about it you can buy a box from Losi that works out of the box without setting up locating pins . You really cant go wrong with either one . You could also make a conversion J.T ran a converted Xray and Gary ran a converted Hot bodies D8 . So name you posion . I like my Losi :thumbsup::cool:

Toby - Now ask Dan which two cars finished 1 and 2 at the Challenge this past year... :thumbsup:

Greg are you on here?

You sat down with Randy and I after the meeting and went over my new HPI Vorza / D8 with me.

If you meant Gary - yes. Wassup?

Toby - Now ask Dan which two cars finished 1 and 2 at the Challenge this past year... :thumbsup:

Ask Gary who converted the car that won the challenge ,and added the choice of a converted car to his list . :tongue::cool:

Can I be a manufacturer? Suppose I want to run a scratch-built chassis?

Mark - Any chassis is ok as long as it is manufactured. It doesn't make any difference if you manufacture it or some company. However, no chassis that were grown are allowed, and you may not give birth to a chassis. No chassis that were created spontaneously during the Big Bang are legal either. I hope this clears the question up for you.

Mark - Any chassis is ok as long as it is manufactured. It doesn't make any difference if you manufacture it or some company. However, no chassis that were grown are allowed, and you may not give birth to a chassis. No chassis that were created spontaneously during the Big Bang are legal either. I hope this clears the question up for you.
Yes, that is the kind of information I wanted.

If you meant Gary - yes. Wassup?

Gary, sorry,....terrible with names after meeting one time.
Just wanted to thank you for the advice last night on the Vorza.
I just ordered the Aluminum Steering Servo Horn (25 - Futaba) you recommended:
http://www.advantagehobby.com/images/P/H/HBS67169-250.jpg

I would imagine its going to be 1/8th scale buggy. No Electric or Nitro specific classes. That's how it was done when nitro out numbered electric 2 years ago. Electric was put into the mix of things. I was told theres no way in the computer can sort out and score different classes that ran in the same heats.

Agreed, I believe it was decided that they would run together. I'm looking forward to stomping on some nitros with my E1/8th. :wave:
Tobamiester, nice meeting you last night. Looking forward to running 1/8th buggy with you and Randy.

Thanks Steve. Who makes them?

Bob my mistake. I meant Brian Sr. Sorry.

question for you local guys has anybody every been to Maj's Hobby Shop in saddlebrook n.j.?I've called that place a dozen times nobody every picks up the phone. Its like calling a payphone in the desert i need parts for my Kyosho fleet going racing the weekend and internet vendors dont have the parts:cry:

does anybody know of a LHS that carries KYOSHO...

question for you local guys has anybody every been to Maj's Hobby Shop in saddlebrook n.j.?I've called that place a dozen times nobody every picks up the phone. Its like calling a payphone in the desert i need parts for my Kyosho fleet going racing the weekend and internet vendors dont have the parts:cry:

does anybody know of a LHS that carries KYOSHO...

Mike - Call Rob Betts out at LIR - he runs - and carries - everything for the electric K cars truck at his shop. I don't know if he is at the Columbus indoor race this week - dont remember if the race is this week or not - but I am sure the store is open. You can also try Mark Westerfield up at Waterbury Raceway - he carries the K car and parts. I have some parts too if you are jammed up - let me know what u need and I can check. Not running myself at the moment. Gary

Gary, sorry,....terrible with names after meeting one time.
Just wanted to thank you for the advice last night on the Vorza.
I just ordered the Aluminum Steering Servo Horn (25 - Futaba) you recommended:
http://www.advantagehobby.com/images/P/H/HBS67169-250.jpg


That's the one! I'm terrible with names, too, and not just the first time I meet someone. :drunk: I got CRS.

Mike - Call Rob Betts out at LIR - he runs - and carries - everything for the electric K cars truck at his shop. I don't know if he is at the Columbus indoor race this week - dont remember if the race is this week or not - but I am sure the store is open. You can also try Mark Westerfield up at Waterbury Raceway - he carries the K car and parts. I have some parts too if you are jammed up - let me know what u need and I can check. Not running myself at the moment. Gary

THNX FOR THE HELP....

question for you local guys has anybody every been to Maj's Hobby Shop in saddlebrook n.j.?I've called that place a dozen times nobody every picks up the phone. Its like calling a payphone in the desert i need parts for my Kyosho fleet going racing the weekend and internet vendors dont have the parts:cry:

does anybody know of a LHS that carries KYOSHO...

You can always call Jason at Hillsborough Hobby Shop. I know Steve and I get Kyosho Parts for a MP7s from him.

Gary, sorry,....terrible with names after meeting one time.
Just wanted to thank you for the advice last night on the Vorza.
I just ordered the Aluminum Steering Servo Horn (25 - Futaba) you recommended:
http://www.advantagehobby.com/images/P/H/HBS67169-250.jpg



Agreed, I believe it was decided that they would run together. I'm looking forward to stomping on some nitros with my E1/8th. :wave:
Tobamiester, nice meeting you last night. Looking forward to running 1/8th buggy with you and Randy.

Theres a young man that runs a nitro powered MP9 that would have something to say about that. LOL

Mark - Any chassis is ok as long as it is manufactured. It doesn't make any difference if you manufacture it or some company. However, no chassis that were grown are allowed, and you may not give birth to a chassis. No chassis that were created spontaneously during the Big Bang are legal either. I hope this clears the question up for you.

Must be nice to have all that free time to scratch build chassis's? Im jealous.

Theres a young man that runs a nitro powered MP9 that would have something to say about that. LOL

I think there are actually two, but I live with one:thumbsup::cool:

i can and will beat any e 1/8 with my mp 9 i will put $$$ on it..........

i can and will beat any e 1/8 with my mp 9 i will put $$$ on it..........

And there is number two.:thumbsup:

What's happening Herman?

i can and will beat any e 1/8 with my mp 9 i will put $$$ on it..........

I said young man. I was referring to Steven. LOL Herman is in da house. Happy New Year Herman.

Me thinks the E 1/8th is going down!:eek:

With trash talk starting so early, we'll have 1000 pages this year.:thumbsup:

With trash talk starting so early, we'll have 1000 pages this year.:thumbsup:

No doubt. Should have some fun talking trash in sprints this year. You and Dano crack me up.

Please read. These will be submitted to the board on Saturday.



Dirt Runners 2010 Nitro Late Model Rules:

Section 1:
Chassis:
1-1 Must be 1/8 production based 4 WD buggy drive
train.(Losi,Ofna,X-Ray and so on)
1-2 No offsetting a-arms or narrowing of a-arms
1-3 Must have dog bone center drive train, no on-road
drive trains.
1-4 No one off chassis. Example: If you have a home
made chassis you must make one for anyone who wants
one at a reasonable price or let anyone copy it. As a
manufacturer or a person who would make one for
someone you don't have to let them copy it.
1-5 Wheel base: 12 5/8" to 13"
1-6 Width: 13" max. - 11 1/4" min.
1-7 Any and all parts must be flush or inside the tread
width. 1/8 tolerance.
1-8 All chassis and tires must remain inside the body.
1-9 No metal or carbon fiber front bumpers.
1-10 Must have foam on the front bumper.


Section 2:
Motors:
2-1 Any .21 or less. Any .28 that came in an RTR kit until replacement is needed. Must be replaced with a .21.
2-2 Modding legal for .21 only.

Section 3:
Tranmissions/Differentials:
3.1 No two speeds.
3-2 One ways and smart diffs. OK.



Section 4:
Bodies:
4-1 Molded one- piece bodies only.
4-2 No additional wings, flaps, spoilers, wickers, vents or
doohickeys will be allowed except what's in sections 4,5
&9.
4-3 A hole or holes for motor cooling
4-4 Decking is allowed
4-5 There will be no metal body parts of any kind.
4-6 All bodies must be approved.


Approved Body list:
C&M-2009 "ATOMIC"
C&M “ASSASSIN”
Losi# losa8096
Ofna# 31143
RJ Speed# 1015 & 1030
A+ one piece
2009 Stalker
Stalker SS (when approved by DLMRA)
Body by Brewster.



Section 5:
No Side Dams Allowed:


Section 6:
Rear Spoiler Specs:
5-1 Rear spoiler can only be as wide as the body at the
rear quarter panels.
5-2 Rear spoiler 3" max from deck.
5-3 The end caps must be a triangle shape.
You may have one fin on the spoiler and two side caps.
The third fin must also be the same dimension as side cap.
It can be located anywhere on the spoiler between the
two side caps. The fin must be in line with the side caps
on the front leading edge.






Section 7:
Wheel & Tire Specs:
6-1 All wheels must be 17mm buggy based.

Spec rubber tires:
6-2 There will not be any grooving or sipping of the
rubber tires.
6-3 Traction compounds are legal.
Approved list:
Ofna Tire Part number 86505 this is the pre-mount tire.
Losi Tire Part numbers LOSA 17757 LOSA 17758.

Section 8:
Weight:7-1 8-1/2 lb. At any time

Please read. These will be submitted to the board on Saturday.



Dirt Runners 2010 Nitro Late Model Rules:

Section 1:
Chassis:
1-1 Must be 1/8 production based 4 WD buggy drive
train.(Losi,Ofna,X-Ray and so on)
1-2 No offsetting a-arms or narrowing of a-arms
1-3 Must have dog bone center drive train, no on-road
drive trains.
1-4 No one off chassis. Example: If you have a home
made chassis you must make one for anyone who wants
one at a reasonable price or let anyone copy it. As a
manufacturer or a person who would make one for
someone you don't have to let them copy it.
1-5 Wheel base: 12 5/8" to 13"
1-6 Width: 13" max. - 11 1/4" min.
1-7 Any and all parts must be flush or inside the tread
width. 1/8 tolerance.
1-8 All chassis and tires must remain inside the body.
1-9 No metal or carbon fiber front bumpers.
1-10 Must have foam on the front bumper.


Section 2:
Motors:
2-1 Any .21 or less. Any .28 that came in an RTR kit.
2-2 Modding legal for .21 only.

Section 3:
Tranmissions/Differentials:
3.1 No two speeds.
3-2 One ways and smart diffs. OK.



Section 4:
Bodies:
4-1 Molded one- piece bodies only.
4-2 No additional wings, flaps, spoilers, wickers, vents or
doohickeys will be allowed except what's in sections 4,5
&9.
4-3 A hole or holes for motor cooling
4-4 Decking is allowed
4-5 There will be no metal body parts of any kind.
4-6 All bodies must be approved.


Approved Body list:
C&M-2009 "ATOMIC"
C&M “ASSASSIN”
Losi# losa8096
Ofna# 31143
RJ Speed# 1015 & 1030
A+ one piece
2009 Stalker
Stalker SS (when approved by DLMRA)
Body by Brewster.



Section 5:
No Side Dams Allowed:


Section 6:
Rear Spoiler Specs:
5-1 Rear spoiler can only be as wide as the body at the
rear quarter panels.
5-2 Rear spoiler 3" max from deck.
5-3 The end caps must be a triangle shape.
You may have one fin on the spoiler and two side caps.
The third fin must also be the same dimension as side cap.
It can be located anywhere on the spoiler between the
two side caps. The fin must be in line with the side caps
on the front leading edge.






Section 7:
Wheel & Tire Specs:
6-2 All wheels must be 17mm buggy based.

Foam tire specs:
6-3 Max tire diameter- 106mm Max tire width- 46mm

Spec rubber tires:
6-4 There will not be any grooving or sipping of the
rubber tires.
6-5 Traction compounds are legal.
Approved list:
Ofna Tire Part number 86505 this is the pre-mount tire.
Losi Tire Part numbers LOSA 17757 LOSA 17758.

Section 8:
Weight:7-1 8-1/2 lb. At any time

I would just remove the entire reference to the foam tires. We have all agreed we want to stay on the 3 sets of spec tires available. and then its good, unless Dan would like to exchange your .28 wording for mine.

No doubt. Should have some fun talking trash in sprints this year. You and Dano crack me up.

You know that! Losi to the front!

You know that! Losi to the front!

What's a Losi:freak::cool: OFNA will prevail:cool:

I would just remove the entire reference to the foam tires. We have all agreed we want to stay on the 3 sets of spec tires available. and then its good, unless Dan would like to exchange your .28 wording for mine.

Done.

LOSI RTR sprinters will rule this year. LOL

LOSI RTR sprinters will rule this year. LOL

I don't think soooooooooo:cool:

Just wait, they handle much different than on rug. Those $500+ big time sprinters should be running rings around a $199 RTR. Mine would be much much faster if it had someone who knew how to drive it LOL

Keep it going. I need 5 more posts and its goodbye Elder Statesman, and hello Hobby Talk Pro. LOL

Just wait, they handle much different than on rug. Those $500+ big time sprinters should be running rings around a $199 RTR. Mine would be much much faster if it had someone who knew how to drive it LOL

Only three short months:thumbsup::cool:

Only three short months:thumbsup::cool:

Yep. You have a CW right Bob?

Yep. You have a CW right Bob?

Yes sir:thumbsup:

LOSI RTR sprinters will rule this year. LOL

Jeez it's only Jan. and the trash talking started . You'll have a couple fast Custom Works cars , a fast Cobra , and my Hyperdrive to deal with . Better strap some rockets on the back of that thing . :cool:

Im hoping to be much better this year. I now have a choice in tires. Only had one set for the majority of the seosn. I did a lot of research and have found some really interesting things as far as set up. Just need to try some of them and see what works best for me. I have the straight line speed, just gotta get the push out of it. Im learning. Ill get there.

Jeez it's only Jan. and the trash talking started . You'll have a couple fast Custom Works cars , a fast Cobra , and my Hyperdrive to deal with . Better strap some rockets on the back of that thing . :cool:

Don't have to worry about the rockets! I already have them.

Sprints might be almost as much fun as Late Models this year.:)

Sprints might be almost as much fun as Late Models this year.:)

Only problem is the LM you bounce off each other. Not so much with Sprints.

Only problem is the LM you bounce off each other. Not so much with Sprints.

With so many Sprints this year, traffic should be a real challenge.