The 09 classes and entries can be found at our webite under results 2009 outdoor season. As far as the water and drainage system goes, I am scheduling as many races as possible this season. There is nothing we can do about mother nature. As long as we keep the current drain line as clear as possible, drainage hasn't been a serious problem. Everyone has to realize rainouts happen, if the track is too wet sometimes there is nothing anyone can do. Believe me I am the last one who wants to cancel a race. If there is something i've missed let me know. As far as a new layout, it will have to have the center drain built in to it. All we can do is hope for dryer weather this coming season.
Yes, that would make the most sense. I don't think anybody wants to go digging up the outlet pipe from the center drain. What I meant was that any additional drain locations we want to build into the track would depend on the layout we choose. A sockwrapped PE pipe set up as a trench drain at the inside curb of the oval would be a good addition for starters. But we'll worry about this stuff later.

Has anybody heard of this http://www.smartdrain.com/. From the clip it looks like something we can use.

It shouldn't be too hard to figure out the optimal drainage setup for the track, but in the end, it will depend on the layout we choose.

i think i can be of some help if needed.

Yes, that would make the most sense. I don't think anybody wants to go digging up the outlet pipe from the center drain. What I meant was that any additional drain locations we want to build into the track would depend on the layout we choose. A sockwrapped PE pipe set up as a trench drain at the inside curb of the oval would be a good addition for starters. But we'll worry about this stuff later.

I had no intention of digging more trenches to lay pipe. The first thing we need to do is build up the entire off road track. There are sections that are lower than the drain. Then we need to pitch the track towards the drain where possible. Any jumps or bumps should be constructed in a way so not to create a dam. Once the track is leveled, unobstructed water flow to the drain, and a clear drain, we should no longer have mud boggs to clean up, just some pudding to remove in the event of a down pour.

Sounds good. Surface flow is going to be paramount no matter what else we do, as the track clay mix doesn't percolate very well(as we know from experience:rolleyes:). If we use a laser level/transit to check heights when working up the new track layout we can eliminate low spots and puddling without any guesswork. I have one I can lend the club for the workdays if needed.

The infiltration drain was just a suggestion based on how we design running tracks and ballfields at work.:cool: I get a little carried away with the prospect of new projects sometimes. It's definitely more labor and $$$ intensive than trying to solve the problem with grading, however you'd be amazed how many site contractors can't grade things correctly:freak:.

just took pics of the PE !

Sounds good. Surface flow is going to be paramount no matter what else we do, as the track clay mix doesn't percolate very well(as we know from experience:rolleyes:). If we use a laser level/transit to check heights when working up the new track layout we can eliminate low spots and puddling without any guesswork. I have one I can lend the club for the workdays if needed.

The infiltration drain was just a suggestion based on how we design running tracks and ballfields at work.:cool: I get a little carried away with the prospect of new projects sometimes. It's definitely more labor and $$$ intensive than trying to solve the problem with grading, however you'd be amazed how many site contractors can't grade things correctly:freak:.

I nominate Matt as the foreman for the new track build. All in favor?

just took pics of the PE !

Looks good Stinger. Man if my wife came home and my 4x4 Slash was on the stove................boy oh boy look out. LOL

Looks good Stinger. Man if my wife came home and my 4x4 Slash was on the stove................boy oh boy look out. LOL

thats why i send her to work,LOL

Here are the classes that will probably run outdoors this year.
NOVICE
1/10 BUGGY MOD OFFROAD
1/10 TRUCK MOD OFFROAD
1/10 4WD BUGGY MOD OFFROAD
1/8 BUGGY OFFROAD
1/8 OPEN MONSTER TRUCK OFFROAD
1/8 LATE MODEL OVAL
RUSTLER OVAL ?
SLASH SPEC OFFROAD
SLASH SPEC OVAL
S/C TRUCK MOD OFFROAD- 2WD and 4WD
SPRINT OVAL
EDM OVAL ?
The 2 classes that have question marks after them had low entries last year.

These should be the classes that are discussed at the rules meeting on sunday. Even if we get started on time on racedays early in the season and late in the season daylight is an issue. This has to be a priority to be thought about. We really need to cut at least 2 classes.

Here are the classes that will probably run outdoors this year.
NOVICE
1/10 BUGGY MOD OFFROAD
1/10 TRUCK MOD OFFROAD
1/10 4WD BUGGY MOD OFFROAD
1/8 BUGGY OFFROAD
1/8 OPEN MONSTER TRUCK OFFROAD
1/8 LATE MODEL OVAL
RUSTLER OVAL ?
SLASH SPEC OFFROAD
SLASH SPEC OVAL
S/C TRUCK MOD OFFROAD- 2WD and 4WD
SPRINT OVAL
EDM OVAL ?
The 2 classes that have question marks after them had low entries last year.

These should be the classes that are discussed at the rules meeting on sunday. Even if we get started on time on racedays early in the season and late in the season daylight is an issue. This has to be a priority to be thought about. We really need to cut at least 2 classes.

I totally agree Wayne...i mentoined this once before and got chewed out...

Here are the classes that will probably run outdoors this year.
NOVICE
1/10 BUGGY MOD OFFROAD
1/10 TRUCK MOD OFFROAD
1/10 4WD BUGGY MOD OFFROAD
1/8 BUGGY OFFROAD
1/8 OPEN MONSTER TRUCK OFFROAD
1/8 LATE MODEL OVAL
RUSTLER OVAL ?
SLASH SPEC OFFROAD
SLASH SPEC OVAL
S/C TRUCK MOD OFFROAD- 2WD and 4WD
SPRINT OVAL
EDM OVAL ?
The 2 classes that have question marks after them had low entries last year.

These should be the classes that are discussed at the rules meeting on sunday. Even if we get started on time on racedays early in the season and late in the season daylight is an issue. This has to be a priority to be thought about. We really need to cut at least 2 classes.

I agree with you Wayne. Something has to go. Support the strong classes. Maybe we should add a "Pot Luck" class? Anything not in the above mentioned classes run together. But then again, if the webpage is updated to the new list of classes, with "a minimum of 5 and a class can run" are clearly spelled out, there should be no surprises to any first timers.

Here are the classes that will probably run outdoors this year.
NOVICE
1/10 BUGGY MOD OFFROAD
1/10 TRUCK MOD OFFROAD
1/10 4WD BUGGY MOD OFFROAD
1/8 BUGGY OFFROAD
1/8 OPEN MONSTER TRUCK OFFROAD
1/8 LATE MODEL OVAL
RUSTLER OVAL ?
SLASH SPEC OFFROAD
SLASH SPEC OVAL
S/C TRUCK MOD OFFROAD- 2WD and 4WD
SPRINT OVAL
EDM OVAL ?
The 2 classes that have question marks after them had low entries last year.

These should be the classes that are discussed at the rules meeting on sunday. Even if we get started on time on racedays early in the season and late in the season daylight is an issue. This has to be a priority to be thought about. We really need to cut at least 2 classes.

Calling all sprint car races. Seeing this list, weak classes may not survive? Guess we shall see on Sunday? Anyway, 2 years ago the sprint car class was Brian, Stingray, and Mark. Last year we added Randy, Nick D., Ray S., Myself, and Tim as regulars. There was an occassional invader here and there as well. Theres some new faces racing indoors and I am hoping they will transition to outdoors? That would be Dano, Bob, and Adam. Did I hear Brian Sr. is running sprint car too? So this year all you guys running outdoors? Tim is in, he's out, he's in? Well see what happens this year? Should be a solid field for sprint cars this year!

Calling all sprint car races. Seeing this list, weak classes may not survive? Guess we shall see on Sunday? Anyway, 2 years ago the sprint car class was Brian, Stingray, and Mark. Last year we added Randy, Nick D., Ray S., Myself, and Tim as regulars. There was an occassional invader here and there as well. Theres some new faces racing indoors and I am hoping they will transition to outdoors? That would be Dano, Bob, and Adam. Did I hear Brian Sr. is running sprint car too? So this year all you guys running outdoors? Tim is in, he's out, he's in? Well see what happens this year? Should be a solid field for sprint cars this year!

Got my 6.5 and I'm ready to go. Just amassing tires and wheels now.:thumbsup:

Calling all sprint car races. Seeing this list, weak classes may not survive? Guess we shall see on Sunday? Anyway, 2 years ago the sprint car class was Brian, Stingray, and Mark. Last year we added Randy, Nick D., Ray S., Myself, and Tim as regulars. There was an occassional invader here and there as well. Theres some new faces racing indoors and I am hoping they will transition to outdoors? That would be Dano, Bob, and Adam. Did I hear Brian Sr. is running sprint car too? So this year all you guys running outdoors? Tim is in, he's out, he's in? Well see what happens this year? Should be a solid field for sprint cars this year!

Tim is IN for Outdoors. Not sure if he'll run Sprint but expect to see him come April.

Here are the classes that will probably run outdoors this year.
NOVICE
1/10 BUGGY MOD OFFROAD
1/10 TRUCK MOD OFFROAD
1/10 4WD BUGGY MOD OFFROAD
1/8 BUGGY OFFROAD
1/8 OPEN MONSTER TRUCK OFFROAD
1/8 LATE MODEL OVAL
RUSTLER OVAL ?
SLASH SPEC OFFROAD
SLASH SPEC OVAL
S/C TRUCK MOD OFFROAD- 2WD and 4WD
SPRINT OVAL
EDM OVAL ?
The 2 classes that have question marks after them had low entries last year.

These should be the classes that are discussed at the rules meeting on sunday. Even if we get started on time on racedays early in the season and late in the season daylight is an issue. This has to be a priority to be thought about. We really need to cut at least 2 classes.

Agreed. EDM seemed to make a comeback midway thru the season in 2009.
As far as Rustler goes, IMHO its pretty dead. The 17.5's can't keep up with the stock motors as we all know. No need to debate that and we'll discuss on Sunday.

I enjoyed running the car but couldn't do better than 3rd (even when Brian or Mark got in a mishap, they usual could make up the time, even when i had a good run). No one else ran weekly except myself, Mark, Brian Jr and Sr. I doubt many more newcomers will turn up with a Rustler keen to get into this class weekly and want to be rebuilding stock motors each week, or fork out $160+ for a 17.5/ESC combo.

I want to run an Oval class this summer, but it won't be Rustler or Slash. Thinking about Sprint; trying to not think about about Late Model Nitro :wave:

I want to run an Oval class this summer, but it won't be Rustler or Slash. Thinking about Sprint; trying to not think about about Late Model Nitro :wave:


So just do both.:D :wave:

Got my 6.5 and I'm ready to go. Just amassing tires and wheels now.:thumbsup:
Awesome Bob. Its a fun class to run. Will be a blast.

So just do both.:D :wave:

Yea come on Aluminium man. Dont be a slacker. LOL

Awesome Bob. Its a fun class to run. Will be a blast.

Looking forward to it:thumbsup:

Late Model guys:

Onstat is selling out of rear Late Model bumpers. If your looking for one, I would place the order. Site says till supplies last, so I would think they are out of production.

Agreed. EDM seemed to make a comeback midway thru the season in 2009.
As far as Rustler goes, IMHO its pretty dead. The 17.5's can't keep up with the stock motors as we all know. No need to debate that and we'll discuss on Sunday.
With the New Tekin software and the Castle Mamba Max Pro, it is quite possible that the 17.5s would keep up with or go faster than a stock motor. But I can understand people not wanting to spend money on the new speed controls. I'm going to try a Mamba Max Pro/17.5 when the weather gets warmer and I'm going to bring my Rustler to every race for at least a while in case we get enough people.

I will be running Sprint this year as well as L8 :cool:

Bob was I seeing things or did I see Brian Sr running an indoor sprint race? If so, is he planning on playing in the dirt too?

I will be running Sprint this year as well as L8 :cool:

NICE!!!

hey, i think rustler could be a good class if it went just brushless, but for now im only running sprint,EDM, and SCT mod 4x4.so i think these classes will fill up by the time the first outdoor race gets here, any more than that will burn me out. ray

Bob was I seeing things or did I see Brian Sr running an indoor sprint race? If so, is he planning on playing in the dirt too?

Brian Sr. is running a Losi Sprint indoors . I dont know if he is going to run outdoors . But I almost willing to bet he does :cool:

Bob was I seeing things or did I see Brian Sr running an indoor sprint race? If so, is he planning on playing in the dirt too?

Yes he is running indoor sprint. Hopefully he will run outdoor as well.

Whats up one g

Hey one G. I finished the 12r5 last night and I do believe Stephen will be at the next race.:thumbsup::cool:

Dan, Got your bearings last night. I'll bring them Sunday.:cool:

so if brian sr. runs sprint that makes about 9 cars, i think?

If JT would show up for Womps tonight, you could bring Dan's bearings tonight, but I know JT won't show again.

I will probably attempt to run my sprint for the first couple weeks and see how it goes outdoors. It really is just a hodge podge of parts put together to keep the count up for indoors. I think it might be better outdoors though with the amount of kickup I built into it.

so if brian sr. runs sprint that makes about 9 cars, i think?

I count:
1 Brian (Cobra)
2. Brian Sr.
3. Sting Ray
4. Ray S.
5. Nick D.
6. Randy
7. Mark
8. Bob
9. Dan
10. Adam
11. Myself
12. Tobey??

I count:
1 Brian (Cobra)
2. Brian Sr.
3. Sting Ray
4. Ray S.
5. Nick D.
6. Randy
7. Mark
8. Bob
9. Dan
10. Adam
11. Myself
12. Tobey??


That's going to be a busy track:freak::cool:

Dan, Got your bearings last night. I'll bring them Sunday.:cool: :thumbsup: How much do I owe you ?

Does anybody Know what size 1/18 Mamba motor screws are ?

I will probably attempt to run my sprint for the first couple weeks and see how it goes outdoors. It really is just a hodge podge of parts put together to keep the count up for indoors. I think it might be better outdoors though with the amount of kickup I built into it.

Your Sprinter works pretty good . What motor you gonna run ?

Your Sprinter works pretty good . What motor you gonna run ?

I have an extra GTB, so to keep it simple I am going to find myself a nice sensored Novak 6.5 or 7.5, probably something used and cheap to get started.

I count:
1 Brian (Cobra)
2. Brian Sr.
3. Sting Ray
4. Ray S.
5. Nick D.
6. Randy
7. Mark
8. Bob
9. Dan
10. Adam
11. Myself
12. Tobey??

and sometimes my son inlaw keith, i better start rebuilding extra diffs now, i have a feeling i will need them

Does anybody Know what size 1/18 Mamba motor screws are ?
M2.5 :thumbsup:

M2.5 :thumbsup:

Thanks Mark :cool:

:thumbsup: How much do I owe you ?

$9.00

47 Page since I started this thread back on December 3rd and outdoors hasn't even started. :) NICE!!!!

Ray you going to be able to make more races this season? Or do you still have a work conflict?

2:00 pm on speed

Ray you going to be able to make more races this season? Or do you still have a work conflict?

workin on that , i should be able to switch days now that we have a full staff

Short Course trucks on Speed right now.

workin on that , i should be able to switch days now that we have a full staff

Sounds good Ray. What are ya running besides Sprint? Looks like EDM may be iffy? Though it did look strong at the end of the season. Plus Stinger and I are joining the class this year.