When we were packing up on sunday did anyone find a charger on the table by the generator. Jack Mathey left his there. Let me know if anyone found it please.

We didn't, but I left a Traxxis to (whatever) adaptor on the same table since it was on the ground.

Posted these a couple of days ago (21-September about 9am), but work has blocked my access to hobbytalk - can no longer post updates from there :(


Http://www.DirtRunners.com
Results
http://www.dirtrunners.com/documents/Mains%2009-19-2010.htm
Standings
http://www.dirtrunners.com/documents/Standings%2009-19-2010.htm
Records
http://www.dirtrunners.com/documents/OutdoorRecords_2010.htm

Someone pointed out that the standings may not make sense for the last couple races, either Wayne will have to fix it in the computer or I will address it before I post the final season standings after the next race manually.

.....

The results show race 10 and 11 as the exact same results. That is because the challenge is double points. The program has been changed to best 10 of 12. It won't show up till the next race.

Remember that there will be racing this sunday at Station 2. Anybody that needs info let me know.

The results show race 10 and 11 as the exact same results. That is because the challenge is double points. The program has been changed to best 10 of 12. It won't show up till the next race.
Good thing Charlie scheduled a lot of races for this year. He had 13 on the schedule and, assuming the last one gets to be run, we ended up with 11 races. I hope he can schedule as many for next year too.

Based on this year's circumstances, the chances of ending up with a blue groove track were 1 in 5 (happened twice out of 10 races). Going by previous two years it is about 1 in 20.



Brian and I were up at the track two days ago running our Late Models. We ran on the oval, mostly dry and completely hard and it was great. But if last night's rain hit the track, we will not see those conditions again this year.
The one time we just didnt water the snot out of the track
If we just over water the track so that aggressive tires will work I agree . The track was grooving up long before the end of the day . No mater what the oval is way over watered . The cars cant hook up because of the loose sand on top if you blow the sand off and use less water you will be able to use less aggressive tires such as holeshots or BK Bars and still hook up . IMO you adjust tire to the track not the track to tires .

Interestingly enough, when I was speaking to Chris from Traxxas, he mentioned that at the tracks they race at in Texas they water at the start of the day, and then do not water again. They like to keep the traction consistent throughout the day and setup their cars for traction, as Dan was talking about. Just thought that was an interesting observation, as many people from our area are accustomed to a lot of watering for traction.

Might be an interesting experiment to run next year - or not :)

.....

Any chance of getting the tamper fixed for next season?

The tamper needs the engine replaced. If the powers to be give the OK, I would be more than happy to pick one up and replace it. I do think it is a valuble piece of track maintenace equipment that we should be using.

I'm sure I can get the handle welded back together also.

1) The track wouldnt get as blown out if less water was used the combination of moist track and aggressive tires is what eats the track up . 2) It takes no more time to blow the track off ( Gary used a 49.99 leaf blower he bought at A&P last year if I am not mistaken ) then to water it . 3) The tamper is great for spot repairs . Who is going to tamp the whole track ? Bob and I have a hard time getting anybody to help us at all . We our both over 50 its a lot of work as it is . 4)This started out as an oval track discussion but the same things are true for offroad . If people think that a couple people should have to kill themselves so they can over water the track and use overly aggressive tires maybe they should help prep the track . 5) Maybe the pump should be put away after use to keep people from be able to water the track during off days .

.....

I really don't want to start world war 3, but the track can be whatever you want it to be with the help of enough people.

I found it really hard to believe and a little disheartening that the only people that showed to prep the the track for the 23rd CHALLENGE on the second day was myself and Brian Sr.

Mark you have a lot to say about track condition and how it should be and I am not singling you out(as there are many), however you are at the track on off days and you were there for practice the first prep day for the challenge and hightailed it out of there when the work started. You even told me you came early to practice before anyone started working on the track.

So stop complaining about what it is or what it could be. As one of the two people that give the entire club a decent track to run on I AM REALLY TIRED OF HEARING IT!

We can't even get decent equipment to maintain the track with.

Other people need to step up next season or you will all be playing in a clay crater.

And the cause of the blowouts is NO ONE WORKING TO FIX THEM!

http://www.castlecreations.com/promos/motor_clearance/motor_clearance.html

Castle motor clearance... Stupid silly prices... Act quick...

Folks,
For all those whom I gave invites to at DR last week for Oct 2nd, can you PM me if you can make it, and how many will be coming, and if you want to race. That way I can get an idea.

If I missed anyone, I apologize. PM me and I'll give you the details.
Thanks!
-Toby

sorry for bringing the track subject back up, but i gotta admit sweeping the track after a couple races really does help as far as traction goes. now i know im new to DR but ive been racing for 7yrs. at the somerset county 4h fair. so i know what im talking about when it comes to track work. and i really do agree that sweeping the track instead of watering it really does help with the traction factor and life of the track. well im done with my long windedness. :p and im lookin forward to a 2nd awsome race season next season

Dano, You serious about getting a 1/10 nitro sprint going????Let me know, I would love to convert my GT to a Sprint. Do you know of anyone selling conversion kits, RD is out of buisiness. I would convert either one the original RC10GT or the GT2

Another Havoc system down......my 8.5 locked up like fort knox in my 4wd buggy...their systems are such shit time for a salt water bath not kidding either..other then that had a fun time at the station....

Dano,
I will be getting the OS .12TG engine for the CW Sprint based on what we talked about at the track. I was wondering any idea on a pipe? Is it true for that a long slim pipe is for speed and a short and wider for more power.

Where else can you buy parts for oval cars other then the limited amount Tower and A Main carry.

Thanks for your help.

Dano, You serious about getting a 1/10 nitro sprint going????Let me know, I would love to convert my GT to a Sprint. Do you know of anyone selling conversion kits, RD is out of buisiness. I would convert either one the original RC10GT or the GT2

RD (Barts ) still has some parts available but does not have any conversions left . You could prob use a Custom Works chassis , cage , arms , and CVDs (which are B3 based ) I am looking to see what is available . I will get back to you about it . :cool:

Dano,
I was wondering any idea on a pipe? Is it true for that a long slim pipe is for speed and a short and wider for more power.


Thanks for your help.

Yes long and slim top end short and fat bottom end . A lot of guys use TH pipes a good source for pipes is Putnam . :thumbsup:

Dano,

Where else can you buy parts for oval cars other then the limited amount Tower and A Main carry.

Thanks for your help.
Lefthander RC , Bumps and Jumps ,and Kipps Hobbies are good places to get Dirt oval parts . I do suggest that you look into getting a gear diff you will have a lot less maint. :wave::cool:

Randy in addition to those places LA SPEED is a great source for the gear diffs, Kipps recommended him to me

Thanks guys! will have to check them out tonight.

Dano,
I will be getting the OS .12TG engine for the CW Sprint based on what we talked about at the track. I was wondering any idea on a pipe? Is it true for that a long slim pipe is for speed and a short and wider for more power.

Where else can you buy parts for oval cars other then the limited amount Tower and A Main carry.

Thanks for your help.

rcworkshop, this pipe realy brought my os 12cv-r to life on the oval. for the price you can't beat it http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCKN7&P=7

Interestingly enough, when I was speaking to Chris from Traxxas, he mentioned that at the tracks they race at in Texas they water at the start of the day, and then do not water again. They like to keep the traction consistent throughout the day and setup their cars for traction, as Dan was talking about. Just thought that was an interesting observation, as many people from our area are accustomed to a lot of watering for traction.

Might be an interesting experiment to run next year - or not :)

The only issue that I could see for this is the track is wet in the beginning so heat one is going to have more grip than heat 2 or the mains etc which would negate the consistancy. That and if it becomes a dust bowl lol.


Oh an btw we have some losi strike bnd's at zeppelin for $99 (same as amain but w/o shipping! muahaha)

I had found a Gearbox and a lot of other goodies with checking the on line stores listed above. I can see this will be a expensive winter for me. I also found Bumps and Jumps Kryptonite 2 steel Nitro Complete gearbox. I think I will take Dans advice and go with a Gear Diff.

Since I won't build this till the winter It's going to kill me that i have to wait till spring to break in my engine. At least it gives me time to think of a story to tell my wife why I need more stuff.

When it is time to breakin your engine let me know I have motor mounts that fit small blocks . :wave::cool:

Most likely he is talking about offroad and a much different type of dirt. Also they conserve water more in texas. in general Also he runs the stock tires on most likely on a much less loose dirt surface like the one tim use to give us on the offroad. Most likely he also races at a higher than club level racing with better drivers which can find a way to hook up with less water. Also on the oval I noticed my LM would run best on the track with very little loose stuff on top and less water because of the tires being used and the fact of 4wd and weight of car, on the same type track me and many of the other oval drivers struggled much more when the track was dry because these 1/10 classes are 2wd cars of less weight. So this subject is not easily done correct in every ones eyes. I think bob is right the track is what u make it. I wish I could help but I can only do stuff for 15 min or so and then my back pain hits the roof. Also I would like to add the pump requires oil many times and shows above correct level on dip stick to keep it running so if possible can we have it looked at by a repair service???Interestingly enough, when I was speaking to Chris from Traxxas, he mentioned that at the tracks they race at in Texas they water at the start of the day, and then do not water again. They like to keep the traction consistent throughout the day and setup their cars for traction, as Dan was talking about. Just thought that was an interesting observation, as many people from our area are accustomed to a lot of watering for traction.

Might be an interesting experiment to run next year - or not :)

lets just hope there is a track left for sunday after this storm

lets just hope there is a track left for sunday after this storm

1-2 inches of rain today,2-3 inches tonite, .075 inches tomorrow. Thats gonna frack the track Real good.......
Unless volunteers get up there Friday afternoon, Saturday morning to drain the track, so it has Saturday to dry off (sorta of), its not going to be usable at all. I'm talking Oval AND Offroad.

Who's going to sign up on here to volunteer? We could use that sump pump, who has that ? I've looked for it in the past in the container.

I know alot of regulars are done with outdoors, but I know many still want to get their offroad fix. I don't know if I will run Sunday but i'll try and help people get a running track the best I can...

All this rain just makes me appreciate the upcoming indoor season so much more :thumbsup:

My pump is in the container somewhere I have not seen it since last year .

the best i can do is early sunday morning so ill be there bright and early and do whatever it is needs to be done ,sorry i cant make it anytime before , wish i could

I also will be there early sunday morning to help prep track. What time will someone be there to get out the tools ? Some forecasters say partly cloudy, some are saying showers.

I'd love to make it out on Sunday, but this weather has put me behind the 8-ball on my projects at home, and if it doesn't start drying up today, I'm going to have to stay home and do triage so this stuff gets done before the next storm:cry:. Keeping my fingers crossed for the rain stopping and some nice drying winds.

new traxxas rally 1/16th on road car , might be a great new class for indoor season stock spec maybe just allow foams or any other tire , i would be in for this.

new traxxas rally 1/16th on road car , might be a great new class for indoor season stock spec maybe just allow foams or any other tire , i would be in for this.

Neat. http://traxxas.com/products/electric/7307rally/trx_rally7307.htm

Looks like a Revo/Slash 1/16, with short arms. Stupid fast I expect.

new traxxas rally 1/16th on road car , might be a great new class for indoor season stock spec maybe just allow foams or any other tire , i would be in for this.

We all ready run the associated version of this car as a spec class seems kind of silly to add another version of the same thing .

so that being said ,can we run that car with the associated spec class

Just about to hit the Back order button on that car.

I think we will probably see the 18R class become an open mini road course class due to a lot of people having different vehicles and a few of the 18R drivers have changed to other classes.

I like that new Traxxas Car. I am assuming for indoor like outdoor you guys run Novice first right?

I like that new Traxxas Car. I am assuming for indoor like outdoor you guys run Novice first right?
Yes. Just on the oval (like outdoors).

Yes. Just on the oval (like outdoors).

Thanks Mark. I really like that rally car from traxxas.

I think we will probably see the 18R class become an open mini road course class due to a lot of people having different vehicles and a few of the 18R drivers have changed to other classes.
From a pic I saw, I think the Traxxas Rally car is quite a bit bigger than an 18R and I know the Traxxas minis are quite heavy for their size. They could easily punt the 18Rs into the pit area or up onto the stage.

From a pic I saw, I think the Traxxas Rally car is quite a bit bigger than an 18R and I know the Traxxas minis are quite heavy for their size. They could easily punt the 18Rs into the pit area or up onto the stage.

Agreed.
I wonder if Traxxas will bring out a brushed version of it, like they did with the 1/16 trucks. I bet they do. That would be fair(er) for the class. brushed 380 motor with a 6-cell or 2s hardcase lipo.

Since the 8.5 EDM we had burnt an ESC a few races ago, I am bringing a Traxxas Based Nitro EDM that I built. I am not sure how fast or slow it will be compared to the EDM's. If there is an issue, I will run it just for fun and asked to be taken out of the results. I know there has been some interest in nitro sprints, so I figure I would see how my nitro oval car would hook up an maybe help peak interest in sprint with the EDM, since it is the last race of the year.

Adam Z

Sprint - Spektrum
EDM - Spektrum
4WD SC - Spektrum
Nitro L8 - Spektrum

Derek Z

Slash Oval - Spektrum
Slash Off-Road - Spektrum
4WD SC - Spektrum
Nitro L8 - Spektrum

Since the 8.5 EDM we had burnt an ESC a few races ago, I am bringing a Traxxas Based Nitro EDM that I built. I am not sure how fast or slow it will be compared to the EDM's. If there is an issue, I will run it just for fun and asked to be taken out of the results. I know there has been some interest in nitro sprints, so I figure I would see how my nitro oval car would hook up an maybe help peak interest in sprint with the EDM, since it is the last race of the year.

Adam Z
I think with the 8.5's in the EDMs you are close to being at the limit of what the cars can handle in power in the track conditions we usually end up with. I'm going to guess that you will be in the same ballpark on speed with your nitro EDM.

The NEW Traxxas Rally is AWESOME. I will 100% buy one ASAP is you have a class for it.

Paul

if its a class or fits into a class ,ill get one too hows the turn out looking for sunday