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never-gro-up
01-12-2010, 12:40 PM
just curious how does this whole track redesign work? do people vote on it?..

dirtrunners off-road track needs more jumps this year...and bigger why not use the oval like they do at the Station..I'm just saying

just my two cents,i don't want the oval to be used,it already gets the abuse of off road cars throwing loose dirt in the corners as it is.the oval is what started this club,off road has enough room just needs to be tweeked. stingray

Lap Traffic
01-12-2010, 12:48 PM
just my two cents,i don't want the oval to be used,it already gets the abuse of off road cars throwing loose dirt in the corners as it is.the oval is what started this club,off road has enough room just needs to be tweeked. stingray

I completely agree. It takes us longer to prepare the oval than the offroad track.

daz
01-12-2010, 01:03 PM
I was present at the last track design change. Nick has many track plans. Whoever was there picked from the plans and we set them aside. Then we picked from that stack until we came out with the eventual winner. This in not to say we only choose from what Nick has. He asked who else has any track plans? No one else did. The track design is based on who is there on day one and what the majority decides. So if you have an idea or two, draw them up and bring them with you to the first work day.

As far as more jumps and bigger jumps is concerned, its a good idea. But we need to make a track that is friendly to all classes. We cant design a track for 1/8th scale. Some of the other classes would have a hard time navigating a 1/8th scale track. So we have to meet in the middle. Bigger jumps? Same thing. Additionally we need to remember we have an oval outside the off road track. We cannot obstruct the oval with monster off road jumps.

Using the oval I dont think is an option. The oval gets dragged wet and rolled to make the smoothest possible surface we can. Where ever an off road vehicle enters and leaves the oval, deep ruts will start to form. The off road vehicles will tear up the oval more than it gets torn up now with oval classes only running it. We would waste a lot of time making repairs to the oval in between heats and mains to make it smooth again.

Thats the way Ive seen it done 2 years ago, and my thoughts on using the oval. It would be nice to have 2 separate tracks. But that will cost the club a lot of money to accomplish. It also would require a lot of man power which aside from the last 2 years Im told was relatively low. Also on race days, its the same half dozen guys working on the tracks each time. If more people pitched in, there would be more possibilities, quicker prep time, and less wasted time.

I don't want to make the off-road into an 1/8 scale track and by bigger i meant the track not the jumps..I'll just go with flow no biggie ...

Wayne Miele
01-12-2010, 04:54 PM
Mike, the jumps started out bigger at the start of the season. With all the bad weather they used the tractor and grater to try and dry the track. That cut the jumps down and they never got built back up.

spikeitaudi
01-12-2010, 05:13 PM
That is true cause the table top we built after coming out of the long sweeper got real small. :) 2 years in the elements will do that.

Jerzferno
01-12-2010, 10:57 PM
I think we need to beef up the jumps each race and work in the blown out sections of the track. We waste too much time trying to make the off road track into a road course with bumps. Off road tracks arent meant to be smooth as asphalt. Fix the jumps and blow outs. Racing will start much earlier. Unless boat racing is the preferred class for the day?

GeorgeW
01-13-2010, 05:17 AM
Happy Birthday Dano

tobamiester
01-13-2010, 08:29 AM
Happy Birthday Dan :)

tobamiester
01-13-2010, 08:30 AM
Folks, anyone know of any RC Drag strips around Northern NJ and/or a group/club that does this ? I have a buddy who's building a car for pure straight line speed. thanks

Lap Traffic
01-13-2010, 08:43 AM
Folks, anyone know of any RC Drag strips around Northern NJ and/or a group/club that does this ? I have a buddy who's building a car for pure straight line speed. thanks

Don't see any Jersey info but he may find this site informative.


http://www.rcdrags.com/

Tech toys might have some onfo.

spikeitaudi
01-13-2010, 08:45 AM
Folks, anyone know of any RC Drag strips around Northern NJ and/or a group/club that does this ? I have a buddy who's building a car for pure straight line speed. thanks

Atco Speedway

http://www.atcorace.com/

Lap Traffic
01-13-2010, 08:50 AM
Atco Speedway

http://www.atcorace.com/

Atco is a real car strip.

Here is the IMDRA site link. http://www.imdra.com/

Check out their very cool clock in the upper right hand of the page.

ta_man
01-13-2010, 08:53 AM
Folks, anyone know of any RC Drag strips around Northern NJ and/or a group/club that does this ? I have a buddy who's building a car for pure straight line speed. thanks
Send a message to a guy named Albie (uses that name on HobbyTalk too) - he does RC drag racing.

spikeitaudi
01-13-2010, 09:40 AM
Atco is a real car strip.

Here is the IMDRA site link. http://www.imdra.com/

Check out their very cool clock in the upper right hand of the page.


I thought that was what he was asking. :) Opps.

Who is going to the rules meeting this weekend? Not sure if I am going to make it.

rcworkshopp
01-13-2010, 09:40 AM
Do you guys think there will be a Mod SC class? I think there will be but not 100% sure. I want to pick up a Blitz but don't want to waste my money if I can't race it.

spikeitaudi
01-13-2010, 09:41 AM
Do you guys think there will be a Mod SC class? I think there will be but not 100% sure. I want to pick up a Blitz but don't want to waste my money if I can't race it.

Randy, you specifically talking about a Mod 2wd SC class right? It might be good to get a sounds off on here of who is going to do that class for sure.

rcworkshopp
01-13-2010, 09:41 AM
I thought that was what he was asking. :) Opps.

Who is going to the rules meeting this weekend? Not sure if I am going to make it.

I know I will and I think Nick and Carl also. Plus a few new members.

rcworkshopp
01-13-2010, 09:43 AM
Randy, you specifically talking about a Mod 2wd SC class right? It might be good to get a sounds off on here of who is going to do that class for sure.

Yes, Thank you for clarifying.

spikeitaudi
01-13-2010, 09:44 AM
I know I will and I think Nick and Carl also. Plus a few new members.

I going to try to go and also get Steve to go, but I know he is running solo on watching his Son on Sunday.

spikeitaudi
01-13-2010, 09:46 AM
Yes, Thank you for clarifying.

Ok, so who is going to be doing or interested in running a 2wd SC Mod Class? PLease sound off if you are.

I'm not but I can always be persauded to run my Stock slash in this class if you need an extra car to get the class off.

Happy Birthday Mr. Moss! :)

tobamiester
01-13-2010, 10:28 AM
Ok, so who is going to be doing or interested in running a 2wd SC Mod Class? PLease sound off if you are.

I'm not but I can always be persauded to run my Stock slash in this class if you need an extra car to get the class off.

Happy Birthday Mr. Moss! :)

I'm not running it (too many other classes) but I think its a class we should definitely define as there are lots of new 2WD SC trucks out there and I think they should have a class to run other than with the 2WD Stadium trucks.

I'll be at the Rules meeting Alvin.

Lap Traffic
01-13-2010, 10:38 AM
I"m not running it either. However, it appears people want a new 4x4 SC truck class, SC mod class and talk of EDMs.

I'm all for accomodating everyone,but there are only so many hours in a race day and I think we were pushing the limit last season.

I guess we will decide on Sunday.

My 2 cents.

tobamiester
01-13-2010, 10:52 AM
I'm all for accomodating everyone,but there are only so many hours in a race day and I think we were pushing the limit last season.


I agree with you Bobmiester, we are pushing things with more classes, however we lost alot of time in the mornings, due to mother nature's attempts to stop all our fun.

For track redesign this year, I think we should make drainage and Track cover a priority, taking a pessimistic approach with what mother nature will attempt to throw at us, and the effects of global warming and such.

My 2shillings..

dano628
01-13-2010, 10:54 AM
Happy Birthday Dano

Happy Birthday Dan :)

Ok, so who is going to be doing or interested in running a 2wd SC Mod Class? PLease sound off if you are.

I'm not but I can always be persauded to run my Stock slash in this class if you need an extra car to get the class off.

Happy Birthday Mr. Moss! :)

Thank you all :hat:

tobamiester
01-13-2010, 10:55 AM
Damn i gotta stop looking at HT and do some work :p

Jerzferno
01-13-2010, 12:17 PM
I agree with you Bobmiester, we are pushing things with more classes, however we lost alot of time in the mornings, due to mother nature's attempts to stop all our fun.

For track redesign this year, I think we should make drainage and Track cover a priority, taking a pessimistic approach with what mother nature will attempt to throw at us, and the effects of global warming and such.

My 2shillings..

Tobey - What do you mean by "track cover"?

Jerzferno
01-13-2010, 12:20 PM
Ok, so who is going to be doing or interested in running a 2wd SC Mod Class? PLease sound off if you are.

I'm not but I can always be persauded to run my Stock slash in this class if you need an extra car to get the class off.

Happy Birthday Mr. Moss! :)

Randy, Ill be running Slash spec off road. But if a truck is needed to complete the field, I'll move over and run in SC mod for that day. If the class has a strong showing each time, Id make the move permanently...............modded of course.

tobamiester
01-13-2010, 12:24 PM
Tobey - What do you mean by "track cover"?


Tarps or whatever. Something large enough to cover the whole track, that we can put over it in preparation for race day (or practice day), that
1) directs water to the drains
2) is Vandal proof -
tall orders I know ...

Jerzferno
01-13-2010, 12:29 PM
Tarps or whatever. Something large enough to cover the whole track, that we can put over it in preparation for race day (or practice day), that
1) directs water to the drains
2) is Vandal proof -
tall orders I know ...

Great idea. Have an estimate on price? One concern I have is how we control the tarp when no one from the club is around? It gets put down before an anticipated rain. It pours. Some club members go to the track to pump it off and remove it only to find someone not in the club has moved it aside to run and the track is a pond.
Definately need to improve drainiage, and come up with some idea to keep it dry in the event of a down pour.

Jerzferno
01-13-2010, 12:31 PM
Happy B Day Dano. Bob you are right, the club is loaded with January B-Days.

tobamiester
01-13-2010, 12:34 PM
Great idea. Have an estimate on price? One concern I have is how we control the tarp when no one from the club is around? It gets put down before an anticipated rain. It pours. Some club members go to the track to pump it off and remove it only to find someone not in the club has moved it aside to run and the track is a pond.
Definately need to improve drainiage, and come up with some idea to keep it dry in the event of a down pour.


I'll work on pricing ideas. If its an initiative we go with, it will only work with help from local folks who can get to the track and throw it over the track as needed. As the track is public property , need a way that people who want to run can remove it safely and replace it..like i said its a tall order, but one i'd like to give serious consideration to help reduce raceday delays/misery.

Jerzferno
01-13-2010, 12:39 PM
I'll work on pricing ideas. If its an initiative we go with, it will only work with help from local folks who can get to the track and throw it over the track as needed. As the track is public property , need a way that people who want to run can remove it safely and replace it..like i said its a tall order, but one i'd like to give serious consideration to help reduce raceday delays/misery.

Agreed. If managed properly, and the intent of the tarp on the track is respected, many many hours can be saved. Plus I wont have to bring my boots home in a trash bag, and hose them off after the races anymore. Or at least not as much. LOL

BuzzBomber
01-13-2010, 01:18 PM
Some of the pool facilities I do design/rehab. work for have covers which roll up on a spool at one end(these are olympic size outdoor public pools I'm talking about). Those are unfortunately fantastically expensive, but I wonder if a used one could be sourced when a facility is upgrading or replacing theirs. I don't know of any candidates offhand, I'm just thinking out loud.

tobamiester
01-13-2010, 01:21 PM
Some of the pool facilities I do design/rehab. work for have covers which roll up on a spool at one end(these are olympic size outdoor public pools I'm talking about). Those are unfortunately fantastically expensive, but I wonder if a used one could be sourced when a facility is upgrading or replacing theirs. I don't know of any candidates offhand, I'm just thinking out loud.

Matt, i was thinking about a spool type thingy too. Will keep that mind :)

dano628
01-13-2010, 03:26 PM
Happy B Day Dano. Bob you are right, the club is loaded with January B-Days.

Thanks :thumbsup:

rcworkshopp
01-13-2010, 05:53 PM
Randy, Ill be running Slash spec off road. But if a truck is needed to complete the field, I'll move over and run in SC mod for that day. If the class has a strong showing each time, Id make the move permanently...............modded of course.

Well with not knowing what will happen I did not buy the Blitz.:cry:

What I got in it's place was a new DX2S Spektrum Radio.:)

I will wait and see what happens with the Mod 2wd SC.

tobamiester
01-13-2010, 05:58 PM
Well with not knowing what will happen I did not buy the Blitz.:cry:

What I got in it's place was a new DX2S Spektrum Radio.:)

I will wait and see what happens with the Mod 2wd SC.

Shiney :) Chris had a Blitz in Xtreme last time I was there, just in case you all of a sudden need one in an emergency :thumbsup:

solographix
01-13-2010, 06:38 PM
There was a bit of discussion about having a Slash Spec class (as exists) and a MOD SC class (2wd & 4wd mix) just some food for thought for you fellas before Sunday.

solographix
01-13-2010, 06:39 PM
Oh, Happy Birthday Dan, I kept forgetting to add it into my replies.

high voltage
01-13-2010, 06:58 PM
Folks, anyone know of any RC Drag strips around Northern NJ and/or a group/club that does this ? I have a buddy who's building a car for pure straight line speed. thanks

up on rt 17 north at the ramsey outdoor parking lot in paramus most of the guys are from champion hobby, and in union at the train station by kean uni.

high voltage
01-13-2010, 07:06 PM
happy birthday dan, how you doing, jt hear anything yet

high voltage
01-13-2010, 07:17 PM
as far as the track cover goes, who will take responsibility, on the days when there is no racing, who will go there to remove it for the people that go to play, it is a county park open to everyone ? and say a bear comes down (we all know they do ) walks across it and his claws tear into it then what throw it a way and take the lost.

daz
01-13-2010, 08:18 PM
Who's got the list of the 09 classes and entries from those classes...

tobamiester
01-13-2010, 08:44 PM
as far as the track cover goes, who will take responsibility, on the days when there is no racing, who will go there to remove it for the people that go to play, it is a county park open to everyone ? and say a bear comes down (we all know they do ) walks across it and his claws tear into it then what throw it a way and take the lost.

I never said it was going to be easy. Be positive.

Jerzferno
01-13-2010, 08:49 PM
Who's got the list of the 09 classes and entries from those classes...

Nick or Charlie have posted that in the past. If you want it, just ask them and I am sure they will post it again.

Jerzferno
01-13-2010, 08:55 PM
Matt - Hows your drainage skills? We need to beef up the drainage system badly.

dano628
01-13-2010, 09:49 PM
Oh, Happy Birthday Dan, I kept forgetting to add it into my replies.

Thanks :hat::cool:

dano628
01-13-2010, 09:51 PM
happy birthday dan, how you doing, jt hear anything yet

Thanks Paul ,all right , and not yet :cool:

BuzzBomber
01-13-2010, 10:27 PM
Matt - Hows your drainage skills? We need to beef up the drainage system badly.
It shouldn't be too hard to figure out the optimal drainage setup for the track, but in the end, it will depend on the layout we choose.

GeorgeW
01-13-2010, 11:38 PM
The 09 classes and entries can be found at our webite under results 2009 outdoor season. As far as the water and drainage system goes, I am scheduling as many races as possible this season. There is nothing we can do about mother nature. As long as we keep the current drain line as clear as possible, drainage hasn't been a serious problem. Everyone has to realize rainouts happen, if the track is too wet sometimes there is nothing anyone can do. Believe me I am the last one who wants to cancel a race. If there is something i've missed let me know. As far as a new layout, it will have to have the center drain built in to it. All we can do is hope for dryer weather this coming season.