Hi Folks,I was watching a clip of Star Trek First Contact and remembered how much I enjoyed the Movie and the New Enterprise E and couldn't wait to get Ertls model of it.With the quality of First Contact and I loved the design of the Enterprise E and I still do,its too bad they couldn't have made a few more good Next Generation movies with the Enterprise E in them.Insurrection was o.k.and Nemesis I think was a little too much forced action and not original and I wish they could have gotten at least 1 more movie like First Contact and its unfortunate the Next Generation films just lost their steam and ended.Guy Schlicter.

Nemesis pretty much ended the Next Generation ensemble, what with the dispersal of our familiar crew to different lives, much like old classmates or veterans who were inseperable when together who then leave to continue their individual lives following other persuits.
And personally, I miss the occasional "Capt. Picard vs. Q" episodes when viewing what passes for current TV programming.

You see! I think THAT was the big boat that next gen missed. A Q movie!

if Picard had a true villian, it was Q. Because he challanged Picard's intellect and "civilized" demeanor. Picard was never an "action hero" and it was a mistake to force him into that mold.

Can you imagine what a talented writer could have done with "Q vs. Picard" with a motion picture sized budget? they could have gone all over time and space

The only thing the "Next Generation" did for me (series and movies),was put me to sleep:rolleyes:....

OK the "Best of Both Worlds" was ok, but it wasn't"Star Trek"...

Just my two cents fellas.

Too bad there weren't more good Next Generation MoviesToo bad there weren't any good Next Generation movies. :p

Sorry, but I never really liked ST: TNG. I will say I think First Contact is the best of the TNG films though.

When it was good, ST:TNG was great. But it was a concept that worked well strictly on TV. Once it moved to the big screen, TNG just fell flat on its face, IMO.

Sean

I'm a much bigger fan of the Next Generation series than I am of the original Star Trek, but the original was overall better on the big screen despite the horrors of Star Trek V.

I agree, the Next Generation movies, aside from First Contact, were disappointments. Generations was OK, but Kirk's death ruined it for me. Not only because it was poorly done, but because it was stupid. Why kill him off?

The material of Insurrection might have made a mildly interesting, but largely forgettable weekly episode. I was irritated that I spent money on it.

Nemesis ... heck, I've forgotten most of it. And once again, why was it necessary to kill Data? What a rotten way to finish up the Next Generation adventures.

I agree, the Next Generation movies, aside from First Contact, were disappointments. Generations was OK, but Kirk's death ruined it for me. Not only because it was poorly done, but because it was stupid. Why kill him off?It was nothing more than a plot device so they could have the two favorite Star Trek captains interact later in the film.

Nemesis ... heck, I've forgotten most of it. And once again, why was it necessary to kill Data? What a rotten way to finish up the Next Generation adventures.From what I've read, that was done at Brent Spiner's request; he felt he was getting too old to continue playing a character that doesn't age. Of course, that doesn't explain why they introduced B-4 and essentially set him up as a replacement for Data, since Spiner would have to play B-4. And I've also read the cast knew this would be the last Star Trek film featuring the Next Generation characters, which would make Spiner's request a moot point.

Maybe the movies woulda worked if they had brought back Wesley and the skintight uniforms... naww. I didnt care for TNG although there were a few good episodes. Too PC for my taste. The movies were boring. And I hated how they killed off Kirk.

Oh well, this newest installment rocks and seems to have everything I want in a Star Trek movie. Im hoping for more of the same.

Movie characters have to be bigger than life. A lot of the "hamminess" that the original show gets criticized for made it work much better as a movie series than the low key approach of TNG.

I, too, always hoped to see Q play a major role in a film. Perhaps they felt they had said all there was to say about Q's interaction with those characters in the series proper.

Qapla'

SSB

I always had a love/hate take on Q type characters. On the one hand they offer entertaining ideas, but I'd rather have my action a bit more realistic and plausible rather than having whimsical, magical characters that can do amazing things because...they thought it. Just my take.

Jeff,
It's a good point, but if the whimsy is used to get Picard to a place where he has to make an ethical descion(sp) then I can look past the means. I mean he did snap his fingers to fling the Enterprise into the first contact with the Borg.

and really, it's no more farfetched than stopping Soran from using a missle to blow up a star to change the course of a space ribbon

I always hated Q, so I'm glad they avoided him in a movie. Plus, DeLancy didn't age very well for an immortal omnipotent being. :)

I really liked Generations & First Contact. After that--wha' happened?

I'm an original series fanatic but there were a LOT of great episodes of ST:TNG. Unfortunately, the percentage was not as high as the original.

Funny the different impressions we have of the original Trek and Next Generation. To me, the later series was dramatically better once it limped past the first season and a half. But to each his own, of course, and I do love the original. Also loved DS9 for about five and a half of its seven seasons. Lost interest in Voyager after forcing myself to watch about three seasons and abandoned Enterprise after the pilot episode.

I had forgotten that Generations also lazily killed off Picard's brother and nephew, two characters featured in one of my all-time-favorite episodes of the series, so maybe I actually all-around disliked that movie. Except for the Enterprise B. I thought that looked pretty cool. And Scotty was funny; I've always suspected James Doohan was given the lines that would have gone to DeForrest Kelley if he'd been in it.

I always hated Q, so I'm glad they avoided him in a movie. Plus, DeLancy didn't age very well for an immortal omnipotent being. :)

And another thing (I know I've brought this up before) how can there be more than one "omnipotent" being?

"Omnipotent" refers to "all knowing". I think if you can stipulate that a single being can know everything, it's no stretch to assume more than one being can know everything.

it just makes for frustrating conversation

"did you hear..."
"yes, I know..."

Explains why the Q continuum was such a boring place

EDIT: I 'm stupid. I just looked it up and I was thinking of "Omnicient", not "Omnipotent"

Omipotent is like Kevin Federline, right?

"Omnipotent" refers to "all knowing". I think if you can stipulate that a single being can know everything, it's no stretch to assume more than one being can know everything.

it just makes for frustrating conversation

"did you hear..."
"yes, I know..."

Explains why the Q continuum was such a boring place
Actually "omnipotent" means "all powerful." You're thinking of omniscient.

yeah,that's what I said (see above)

"did you hear..."
"yes, I know..."



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