View Full Version : Greenlight vs M2


jjw724
09-09-2009, 02:34 PM
Thought about getting a 1970 Torino available in the M2 line that i don't see greenlight has available,Was wondering how good they are compared to the greenlights being it looks like there around the same price.

NEEKAVELI
09-09-2009, 02:37 PM
I don't think M2 is doing that bad. There new stuff is getting better, and at that price why not go for it

Clamjuice
09-09-2009, 04:38 PM
To me, M2's are sub-par to that of Greenlight.

First and most importantly, is the scale. I like the opening doors on the M2's, but the scale is too big.

I like the M2's don't get me wrong, I collect them; but not as much as the Greenlight.

I think they both need to slow down a bit, producing the same cars over and over again with a different paint job is burning me out.:wave:

88th division
09-09-2009, 05:43 PM
I like them both. M2's advantage is the unique 50's cars they produce. Not the usual classic Chevy's (although they did a '57). I hope that they will make
cars from the 40's and 30's someday, but for now the 50's are looking good!

Trolleydodger
09-09-2009, 09:25 PM
I like the M2's don't get me wrong, I collect them; but not as much as the Greenlight.

I think they both need to slow down a bit, producing the same cars over and over again with a different paint job is burning me out.:wave:

Tooling is expensive, they have to use it over again. I don't mind them putting the same car over and over again in different colours. They have released what, about 42 cars in 4 years. That's 10 a year, which is I think is pretty good for a small company.

I think Mattel has actually hurt the hobby by putting out so many new cars every year. In the same time period {2006-2009} there have been 156 new Hot Wheels. Then you get into colour variations, wheel variations, and all the other variations that come out{purposely or lack of quality control} as well as repaints. That comes on the heels of 160 new cars in 2004-2005. I don't know how anybody can collect mainline Hot Wheels over the past 10 years without burning themselves out.

I don't collect M2's but I also think their scale is a little too big. Greenlight does a good job and I hope they are around for a long time.

astroking2
09-09-2009, 11:43 PM
M2 is doing better. At first, they were far below GLs, but this past year has been good for them.

I collect them (only because they make Cudas now), but still prefer GL for now. :thumbsup:

carhauler
09-10-2009, 12:03 AM
I collected M2's before G/Ls,,,,but I like G/L's constant scale. Some M2's appear to be undersize, ie 1949 Merc. It's much smaller than the 1951 Ford???????///. M2 has better "in scale" tires and wheel covers.

stew
09-10-2009, 10:15 AM
I collect them both, but far more GLs. The scale thing kills me on M2s and quality is lacking (I get more that won't roll correctly than will, had a door break off just by opening it, seen them in stores with loose and missing parts, ETC). I love the fact that GL listened on the wheels (though that was never really a concern for me) and they just keep getting better. And heck anyone that is willing to make a nice and correctly scaled Fox body Mustang is awesome in my book :)

harristotle
09-10-2009, 10:15 AM
I collect both brands, but I only collect GL religiously.
I really enjoy the M2 brand especially with the opening doors and amazing detail; under the hood, the interior, and all the little chrome trim and lights on the outside.
My biggest complaint is the absolute disregard for scale. Scale is important to me as a collector and it's kind of frustrating to put a Torino next to a Mustang and have the Mustang dwarf the Torino :drunk:

jjw724
09-10-2009, 11:13 AM
On the scale size i found greenlight is a little off on some also,I have a 07 concept camaro that is huge next to my 71 camaro,I also noticed the 66 vette is a little smaller then the other vettes.But then i got a M2 66 charger next to a greenlight 67 coronet conv. & they are close in size,Guess it is all about how the casting is made.

Lummox
09-10-2009, 11:23 AM
I don't see what people are saying about M2's being too big.
They seem to be in line with Johnny Lightning, etc.
I allways found Greenlights to be too big for my taste. A little smaller than true 1/64th is what I prefer. Like the old Lesneys.

03silvergt
09-10-2009, 01:38 PM
I don't see what people are saying about M2's being too big.
They seem to be in line with Johnny Lightning, etc.
I allways found Greenlights to be too big for my taste. A little smaller than true 1/64th is what I prefer. Like the old Lesneys.


haha M2's are bigger than Greenlight. i need to take some side by side pics for you. i might do that in a few min

03silvergt
09-10-2009, 02:03 PM
Here are some pics. The M2 is the bright blue stang, the Greenlight is the olive color one.
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n107/03silvergt/DSC01616.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n107/03silvergt/DSC01615.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n107/03silvergt/DSC01614.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n107/03silvergt/DSC01612.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n107/03silvergt/DSC01617.jpg

Clamjuice
09-10-2009, 04:13 PM
Outstanding job young Jedi, great pics.

Scale is where it's at in my book.

I agree with another post as well, more often than not; the wheels don't roll on the M2.

They are still nice, no doubt about it; and I'll still pick up the 5 or so models that I collect.

I'm glad they do the Fairlane, it's a great casting.

Lummox
09-10-2009, 08:02 PM
haha M2's are bigger than Greenlight.
Some are. (Haha???:confused:)
M2 '50s cars aren't oversized.

03silvergt
09-10-2009, 08:51 PM
Some are. (Haha???:confused:)
M2 '50s cars aren't oversized.

I was just laughing about how you could say Greenlights are to big for your taste when M2's (all but the 50's cars) are bigger than Greenlight's, but you like M2 size and say you like a little less than actual 1:64 scale when most M2 are bigger.

No_Ice_Kustoms
09-10-2009, 10:41 PM
M2 are way out of scale, don't Roll, feel chinsy, feel cheap in your hand, they are a Nice looking in the blister but when you take them out the disapointment starts. The auto lifts were way disapointing, after buying a 5 pack of them which was priced at 9.99 good price, i opened measured and did the math and in 1/64th scale it is 9 yes 9 FEET to the bottom of the car on them NOW if i get Kareem or Manute (SP) Bol i can change the oil in my car. Measure a Real item do the math and design you know Math is easy, its actually taught in grade school but very few diecast companies can do MATH!!!

Lummox
09-11-2009, 04:04 AM
I was just laughing about how you could say Greenlights are to big for your taste when M2's (all but the 50's cars) are bigger than Greenlight's, but you like M2 size and say you like a little less than actual 1:64 scale when most M2 are bigger.
I only have M2 50's stuff. Never realized the muscle cars where so big.
Now I know.

dragonhead00
09-11-2009, 06:19 AM
When it comes to accuracy and detail, I believe Greenlight has the market cornered. They were even featured in Hemmings Motor News. The few pieces I have are very nice and I admire them every now and then. I just can't afford to start collecting a new line. If I could, I would return most of my Hot Wheels and buy GLs with the money.

03silvergt
09-11-2009, 09:49 AM
If I could, I would return most of my Hot Wheels and buy GLs with the money.


Thats what i did, I sold all my HW on ebay and at the local flea market so i could buy Greenlight. Now i hate HW's.

SD64
09-11-2009, 10:38 AM
I find it interesting how much opinions can vary on what makes a good diecast car: accuracy, details and opening body parts, scale, how well the wheels roll, price point, quality control, subject matter, etc...

I guess it all depends on why you collect. I collect Mustangs as little historical representations of the original cars. To me, its fun to open one of my many Mustang books and have a little version of the original car as a reference piece. I open many of my cars and they go into a display case arranged by era. So, to me accurate proportions, accurate details such as correct tampos and factory colors, and accurately styled and sized wheels are important. I'd say uniform scale is high on the list as well, because I like to display my stangs next to eachother.

I love the details, accuracy, and wheels that went into the M2 '70 stang, but I was a bit disappointed in its large scale. The large size of the M2 stang does not fit in with the rest of my collection, so my purchases of these will be a bit limited. The retooling of the Greelight wheels has really re-sparked my interest in their models. I also like the fact that GL does their research and has produced a couple of the special edition Mustangs that hasn't been seen elsewhere in 1:64 scale.

Concerning price, I agree that $5.00 is steep for 1:64. It certainly causes me to be more selective in what I purchase. For example, I typically don't purchase special lines like the Black Bandit series or Mustangs with color combinations I don't care for. If the prices were lower, I may pick up more of these. However, because of my particular collecting style, it doesn't break the bank for me.

Quality control is an important issue to me as well. Poor quality control makes me hesitant to purchase from online dealers... you never know what you are going to get. GL seems to have gotten their previous quality control issues solved for the most part. GL also listens to collectors and keeps us informed, a big plus in my book.

Rolling wheels? Obviously not important to me. I prefer the authentic look of rubber wheels. Rubber wheels just aren't go to roll well and that is not their purpose. Their purpose is to look more realistic. I'm not sure why you would want rolling wheels unless you plan to do gravity racing. If you want better rolling wheels, you should stick to Hot Wheels or JL's with plastic wheels.

Just my 2 cents.

jjw724
09-11-2009, 11:27 AM
I try to collect differant makes of cars,If i want a torino the company i found that makes the best quality version would be M2,Next i may want a Plymouth Duster then i will probably be forced to look to JL,I would love to get all these from Greenlight but reality is it's not going to happen,I guess it is how & what you collect is going to determine the variance of our collections,I also have a collection of super cars & euro's,They have been aquired mostly from matchbox & hotwheels,Good thing there is they are a buck each,But you get what you pay for.

carhauler
09-11-2009, 03:05 PM
M2 has given us a lot of '50's cars in 1/64(approx) that we never had; who ever thought we'd see a '55 Pontiac? But how can you make a '51 Ford and a '49 Merc and the Ford turns out better but also larger? I resisted buying the Muscle cars but I now have two 66 Chargers and release number 8 looks interesting regardless on scale. J/L has been making 1/64 cars that vary greatly since their restart.
I also resisted G/Ls because of the thick tires until last winter. Now I'm looking for them everywhere I go. More consistantly nice cars(and trucks) than the other guys.
I came to 1/64 from Danbury Mint and Brooklins; so I think $5.00 is OK.

Galaxieman
09-11-2009, 03:13 PM
Any company that makes the line of 50s cars that M2 makes is OK by me. The 53 Ford Vic looks spot on to the one I owned and the Merc Sun Valley with a see-through roof is out of this world. I guess I am one of the casual collectors who is just happy to have little ones of the real ones I used to and still do drive. GL made me a very happy man with the release of the 66 Galaxie to match the one in my garage.

Keep going GL. Your quality is hard to beat:thumbsup:

stew
09-11-2009, 03:49 PM
I also collect different makes from different manufacturers, but I am HUGE into correct scale. I will not generally buy a car if it is no where close to scale. If M2 had made the Mustangs the right scale, I 'd buy everyone I could, but as they are now, no thanks. I just ordered a mix of greenlights and M@s from Milezone yesterday.

masphx
09-11-2009, 06:36 PM
Thats what i did, I sold all my HW on ebay and at the local flea market so i could buy Greenlight. Now i hate HW's.

Lol, I trade so many Hotwheels away for Green Machines! GL has the quality when it comes to the collector line hands down. The best around! I must say that I do like M2's Driver Series more then Greenlight's comparable Motor World line though.

Mason

carhauler
09-11-2009, 07:31 PM
I too, ordered six G/Ls (three Mustangs and I'm a Mopar man) and three M2's from Milezone today. The M2's('50's) are for future conversions. Now on to ebay for a couple of missing pieces.

03silvergt
09-11-2009, 08:38 PM
Lol, I trade so many Hotwheels away for Green Machines! GL has the quality when it comes to the collector line hands down. The best around! I must say that I do like M2's Driver Series more then Greenlight's comparable Motor World line though.

Mason


I agree about the drivers vs. motor world. I dont care for motor world at all and i like the drivers series.