Just wanted to make this thread to announce that Marshalls Hilltop Hobbies in Honesdale, PA will follow TOUR rules this season!

If other tracks know they are going with the rules they can let us know also so we know the rules before hand!

Marshalls Hilltop Hobbies in Honesdale, PA

Greeneville RC Speedway in Greeneville TN.

Strand R/C Raceway McAdoo, Pennsylvania

Turn 4 R/C Speedway Stafford Springs, CT

Walt's Hobbies, Syracuse NY

SRCA GP Somerset PA 15501

CRC Raceway will be using TOUR rules

Marion County Fairgrounds RC Raceway's Indy

trax70 bullring browns mills nj

Rosewood RC in Goldsboro, NC

RC Racing Station Kenner, Louisiana 70062

MTR Raceway - Bradenton, Florida

MINNREG Carpet Racing - Clearwater, Florida

RC-International Speedways Green Cove Springs, FL

Superior Hobbies Casselberry, FL 32707

Horsham Carpet Oval Horsham, PA

Tri-State Hobbies And Raceway Hamilton, OH

Rosewood RC - Goldsboro NC

Strand R/C Raceway
McAdoo, Pennsylvania

Turn 4 R/C Speedway
Stafford Springs, CT
(Home of the WinterBlast)

Walt's Hobbies, Syracuse NY

Turn 4 R/C Speedway
Stafford Springs, CT
(Home of the WinterBlast)

cant wait to get back up there! VIVA LA WINTER BLAST!

cant wait to get back up there! VIVA LA WINTER BLAST!
Cant waite~!

SRCA GP
Somerset PA 15501

something to think about:

What is going to happen when guys who travel to some of these tracks
are not part of the tour?......You are going to have racers who will not travel to some of these tracks for the bigger events due to the fact they dont want to be part of the tour or care for the classes setup in the rules......I believe the numbers will dwindle...since we sw3itched from 4 cell stock to brushless then to lipo the numbers at events have dropped...guys are leaving this hobby partly due to the fact rules change every year...........I dont believe this is how we are to make the hobby grow....

Those people probably dont travel to races anyway. They need to get onboard with the rest of us and support the Tour rules so we have a more uniform hobby !

something to think about:

What is going to happen when guys who travel to some of these tracks
are not part of the tour?......You are going to have racers who will not travel to some of these tracks for the bigger events due to the fact they dont want to be part of the tour or care for the classes setup in the rules......I believe the numbers will dwindle...since we sw3itched from 4 cell stock to brushless then to lipo the numbers at events have dropped...guys are leaving this hobby partly due to the fact rules change every year...........I dont believe this is how we are to make the hobby grow....

the reason people were getting out was the fact that they had to buy batteries every 3 weeks to keep up. now we have a strong set ofrules in place and stable motors and batteries. everyone cango say this certain motor is soooo much faster than this 1. till i see the lap times from 1 motor to the next i say it is hogwash.

If tracks ran the same rules it would be easier for guys to travel to other tracks. The more tracks switch to the Tour rules the more tracks you could travel to, not only the big events but the average Sat night races too. Only a upside there.
Well things change every year, been doing this too long to know that nothing stays the same. Every year you've had to buy a few packs to race because last years are junk, now all you need is 1. New body...they last a little longer than tires, so that not an excuse. So now the new season is here and the added expence is motor, minus 5 packs you have to buy that lasted hopefully 2 months.
The way to get the hobby to grow is have a class for the less experinced racer to learn, whiich is addressed in the 17.5 truck class. This is what oval has been missing for years!!!! And has been addressed by the Tour rule board. BIG PLUS, this is were the future racers are going to come from.
something to think about:

What is going to happen when guys who travel to some of these tracks
are not part of the tour?......You are going to have racers who will not travel to some of these tracks for the bigger events due to the fact they dont want to be part of the tour or care for the classes setup in the rules......I believe the numbers will dwindle...since we sw3itched from 4 cell stock to brushless then to lipo the numbers at events have dropped...guys are leaving this hobby partly due to the fact rules change every year...........I dont believe this is how we are to make the hobby grow....

something to think about:

What is going to happen when guys who travel to some of these tracks
are not part of the tour?......You are going to have racers who will not travel to some of these tracks for the bigger events due to the fact they dont want to be part of the tour or care for the classes setup in the rules......I believe the numbers will dwindle...since we sw3itched from 4 cell stock to brushless then to lipo the numbers at events have dropped...guys are leaving this hobby partly due to the fact rules change every year...........I dont believe this is how we are to make the hobby grow....


guys that wont travel just because its a TOUR track is possible. but compared to the guys that dont travel because they are not sure what class the track runs, or because this perticular track runs 5000 packs but there home track runs 3200.... ect ect ect, will be much higher. the point of TOUR is to unify most of the tracks around. there will always be good reasons why people dont travel. not haveing enough money is one very good reason for example. but because its a TOUR track is a little silly in my opinion.

for a beginner..... the money thing would be a issue for me, have spent tons just trying to get started....lol

I think Bud3738 dosen't understand that if you build a car to Tour rules, you can run any track that uses Tour rules. He doesn't like the Tour rules and he just wants to cause problems. These rules will bring more racers to the tracks in the long run.

i have heard guys say if a track doesnt use tour rules they wont race there also. cant make 100% of people happy ever.

CRC Raceway will be using TOUR rules.

...not to stir the pot more, but i think this is the whole point of the TOUR in the first place...

Since my car will be already setup for TOUR COT, i will only be going to tracks that use the TOUR rules package. I don't have the funds to, nor do i want to, build a second car and have a different body, and in some cases a different speedo and motor just to go to a track that wants to be different.

This thread is awesome if all the TOUR tracks post here, then i know i can load up and go somewhere and know i have the right equipment before i get there.

Great Job guys! :thumbsup:

I think Bud3738 dosen't understand that if you build a car to Tour rules, you can run any track that uses Tour rules. He doesn't like the Tour rules and he just wants to cause problems. These rules will bring more racers to the tracks in the long run.
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I believe I was able to figure out the concept.....build a car to tour rules....you can run at a track that runs tour rules.....even though I am a yankee from New England I was able to figure that out....And no....I have no
specific issue with tour rules.......I can afford (thank god) to buy mostly whatever I want and can change to conform to whatever the rule is whenever I want...and no....I do not want to casue problems......The point I am making that if you want to keep changing the rules every year it will push some out of the hobby....There are many out there who have been forced to buy different brushless motors each season becasue the rules kept changing....Give them yet another change and some will start getting fed up and move on to something else......Do we want to keep racing with the same core group of guys or bring new blood into this hobby?....The numbers have been dwindling for the last few years now......How many rule changes or racing organizations have been created since then..

Bud that is what the tour is all about a consitaint set off rules for all tracks to be able to use. In years past all I have seen when somebody wanted to go to another track is what the rules where and what classes do you run there. Now if we can get everybody on the same page I can go anywere and not worry if I have the right equipment to run there.

I dont have a problem with having a set of rules....I actually am encouraged by that....
the problem is every year changing the rules and then posting on hobbytalk or where ever and stating....".its all about having the same rules so all the tracks can be the same" and then started another oval group name...You know what....I am sorry I even posted this.....Im already getting my gear ready for whatever the rules are to go racing.....Maybe Ill chime in 4-5 months from know when someone wants to know what to do to get new blood in the hobby and why a few more guys dropped the hobby because they couldnt afford to keep up with all the different classes...Again...I will continue to stay in the hobby and race whenever I can....I support my hobby shops and
give away old equipment in an attempt to get new people interested....hope to rub fenders with some of you soon......

Bud that is what the tour is all about a consitaint set off rules for all tracks to be able to use. In years past all I have seen when somebody wanted to go to another track is what the rules where and what classes do you run there. Now if we can get everybody on the same page I can go anywere and not worry if I have the right equipment to run there.
so, not a real good class for a newbie like me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i see why people are choosing to go the offroad way!!, me was trying to go oppisite way and already thinking about leaving, when all the recent people are done racing carpet oval....i can see this class being done!!!! it is really frustrating for a newbie...that came from offroad 1/8 scale to pancar. bring what ya got and race!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow, how hard is that!!! if we get smoked we get smoked, our choice weather we want to upgrade to better items????......are you all so dis-orginized to where you need roar.......brl.....tour.....bla bla bla....to make things work....wow...if all the guys that have been racing and doing well, well they should continue right??? if someone comes in and beats them, then there will be a problem.......lol..lol...lol, not me but anybody! so i think it the big boys making the rules, dont want newbies kicking ass!!! pretty much sums it up. because it sure is not a money issue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wave:

Like I said a few posts back...We have never had an Org that is being backed by the big names in Oval...And those names realize that we need this org to make this work.

BRL, Oval Masters, Snowbirds, ORL (for the most part), and many tracks are on board. Most tracks that I run at say "we run BRL rules, or Snowbirds rules, or Oval Masters rules" well, now everyone that says that runs TOUR RULES!!!

Like I said a few posts back...We have never had an Org that is being backed by the big names in Oval...And those names realize that we need this org to make this work.

BRL, Oval Masters, Snowbirds, ORL (for the most part), and many tracks are on board. Most tracks that I run at say "we run BRL rules, or Snowbirds rules, or Oval Masters rules" well, now everyone that says that runs TOUR RULES!!!

run what ya bring!!!!!!! decide your self how good you are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you want to get smoked, then run with the big boys, you want a chance as a newbie run with novice....... all these....brl, oval masters, tour, bla bla, are just telling you how to have fun! i can do that by myself!!!!!!!! dont need someone telling me how much money i have to spend to do it. this oval racing will never grow!!!!!!!!!!! imo!!!

Run what you brung is not racing. ALL racing has rules and guidlines. Anyone can go out there with a 3C lipo, and a 2.5 motor. But to race with the same equipment and see how your setup, and driving stack up that is racing.

If you need help getting up to speed on what you need to race a TOUR race just ask and we will help you out.

have, and have heard 3 differnt rules!!!! want to buy a nice HD PRO2??????

If you want to run 13.5 1C. Go get a Novak 13.5 SS motor, and Thunder Power 1C battery, and a COT body. You are done. If you need some setup help we can help.

i was told a nastruck body and a 17.5 novak and smc 1 cell 4000mah 25c lipo??

Yep, that is what you need for the begginer class. You are all setup then. The only thing that has really changed on the rules are the 7.5 class (which is MOD), and the battery rules are no longer following ROAR approval dates. As far as I know nothing has changed for the 17.5 class.

there are people always willing to help on these boards in any class you end up running.

so to run the 13.5 class, all i need is a 13.5 ss motor?? cot body and a thunder power 1 cell battery??? does it matter what c-rating?? theres another 200.00 bucks..lol

I think we need to get away from calling 17.5 the "beginner" class. While it is a good choice for those starting out in RC, it's intention is to be more of a novice class to include those who feel they aren't fast enough for 13.5. "Beginner" carries a certain stigma the class doesn't need to have before it even gets off the ground.

I think we need to get away from calling 17.5 the "beginner" class. While it is a good choice for those starting out in RC, it's intention is to be more of a novice class to include those who feel they aren't fast enough for 13.5. "Beginner" carries a certain stigma the class doesn't need to have before it even gets off the ground.
oh, i like fast!!!! wanted to run 17.5 2cell lipo, someone told me hold on skippy!!....lol

There is only 1 Thunder Power pack that is available. It is a 40C pack. You can run the same 25C pack that you use in the 17.5 class.

$200 bucks?? $20 for the body, 60 for the battery, 80 for the motor... that is 160. Plus you sell the 17.5 for 40, and the battery for 30. So that is 90 bucks and you are running the biggest class in the country.

There is only 1 Thunder Power pack that is available. It is a 40C pack. You can run the same 25C pack that you use in the 17.5 class.

$200 bucks?? $20 for the body, 60 for the battery, 80 for the motor... that is 160. Plus you sell the 17.5 for 40, and the battery for 30. So that is 90 bucks and you are running the biggest class in the country.

you beat me too it!!!

I think we need to get away from calling 17.5 the "beginner" class. While it is a good choice for those starting out in RC, it's intention is to be more of a novice class to include those who feel they aren't fast enough for 13.5. "Beginner" carries a certain stigma the class doesn't need to have before it even gets off the ground.

Good point. And for some of the smaller tracks that could be a pretty fast class.

I'm pleased to make a couple big announcements from Indy this week.

We got the approval for use of a huge 4H building on Marion County Fairgrounds this week to start our indoor RC race programs.And wil sign a long term contract with then later this week.
The Fairgrounds is 15minutes south of Indy just off I74 and I465.

R/CAR(Radio Controlled Auto Racers)is a non-profit faith based organization ran by a couple great guys who wanted to put Indy back on the RC map.
We have a huge (600 ft run line/35ft wide lanes)asphalt oval and Slash short coarse we've been running the latter half of the summer.A lot of hard work has finally made this venture a reality.We have big plans with a quarter scale dirt oval in the works to add to our fast becoming vast RC facility here in Indy.

The Marion County fair board granted us rights to a huge building that has great restrooms,a full service cafeteria,and well heated...the building is not a barn...it's a 4H activity building.The building will have it's own in house fully stocked hobby shop...Pennington"s RC.We also have on site camping with full hook ups available & a new hotel less than 5 miles away.

We will be ordering new ozite from CRC in the next couple weeks and we're laying down a replica of what Mike puts down for the Bird's.
We're about six weeks away from our "indoor" Grand Opening...but Indy and the Midwest will have a new(permanent) monster to tame.

We will be running all TOUR rules in our pan cars classes and we will be running a "Prelude to the Bird's" race New Years weekend.

Please PM me for any additional info and I'll keep everyone up to speed as we progress to our grand opening.Our website is under construction,but we do have a thread in the oval discussion section of HobbyTalk.

Thx guys!

Inferno.... I understand the desire to go fast, but when your first getting into oval racing, offroad experience or not, you need to crawl before you walk. My first race ever, a friend of mine (who got me into RC) suggested that I run 6 cell stock. That nite I spent plastered to the wall and had zero fun. The following week I went to 4 cell stock, had alot more fun, and by the end of my first season I had won a race and been in contention to pick up a few more. I would have never gotten to that point if I had stayed in 6 cell.

17.5 2s would be way too fast for any rookie driver... that would be like jumping from a go kart right up to a Daytona Prototype after running 1 kart race. Your best bet is to start off in 17.5 1s, learn how to get the car going, work on the driving, then bump up.

You can run any class you want, but if you intend to stay with pan cars for awhile, you'll have a better go at it if you start off towards the bottom and work your way up.

Inferno.... I understand the desire to go fast, but when your first getting into oval racing, offroad experience or not, you need to crawl before you walk. My first race ever, a friend of mine (who got me into RC) suggested that I run 6 cell stock. That nite I spent plastered to the wall and had zero fun. The following week I went to 4 cell stock, had alot more fun, and by the end of my first season I had won a race and been in contention to pick up a few more. I would have never gotten to that point if I had stayed in 6 cell.

17.5 2s would be way too fast for any rookie driver... that would be like jumping from a go kart right up to a Daytona Prototype after running 1 kart race. Your best bet is to start off in 17.5 1s, learn how to get the car going, work on the driving, then bump up.

You can run any class you want, but if you intend to stay with pan cars for awhile, you'll have a better go at it if you start off towards the bottom and work your way up.
thats what i was thinking also, plus i dont want to get in the way of a experinced driver, i am all about respect for the others!!! hope i get this goin and meet a bunch of new racers this season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thats what i was thinking also, plus i dont want to get in the way of a experinced driver, i am all about respect for the others!!! hope i get this goin and meet a bunch of new racers this season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats what its all about. Bench racing, and meeting good people. All of this stuff about rules and motors and batts is all worth it when you get to the track and get to bust on all the people there. The most fun is in the pits!! Or at the bar/resturant after :p

just curious Inferno "where are you from"

Honestly, I have more fun going to races, talking with people and working on other peoples cars... I don't even care to race my stuff anymore... lol

Inferno where are you planning on racing? There are alot of people on the boards that will be glad to help you.

just curious Inferno "where are you from"

gaylord, michigan. i think there is 2 people in this town with pancars...lol, and i am one of them, i will be going with casey (promatchracer) to races this season, where we go, i dont know, but im goin!!!!

Inferno just don't listen to cutter1 he's a hack. hahahahahahahahaha

Inferno where are you planning on racing? There are alot of people on the boards that will be glad to help you.
ya, that was the plan, also will be going to the birds in january, ill be there so why not try to race novice??? sounds like fun to me!!

if you get any time to head north visit Marshalls hilltop hobbies some of the best racing on the east and by far one of the best hobbyshops you'll ever see

Captain isnt it a little late for an old man like you to be up!!!

Na I took a nap when I got home from work

if you get any time to head north visit Marshalls hilltop hobbies some of the best racing on the east and by far one of the best hobbyshops you'll ever see

Captain isnt it a little late for an old man like you to be up!!!

old man???? captain???? im 36 and drinkin beam!!!..lol..lol

Captain was around when dirt was created! lol that musta been a long nap.... HI Ron!:wave:

Its almost carpet season and I will be traveling to wherever I need to run.