why would they put to blu ray the non remastered edition of TMP? If it's supposed to look its best on screen, you'd think they would have used the remastered version where the V'ger energy bolt dying off after Spock sends the friendship message doesn't look like a flashlight turning off against a speckled background or clean up some of the images of the Enterprise leaving drydock. There was dirt or something on the lens!

I Netflixed it so I don't know if there's a second disk with the remastered edition on it.

We've yet to see Star Wars on blu-ray but one thing you can rest assured, you'll probably see both the theatrical version and the remastered!

grumble, grumble

My understanding is that the new effects in the remastered version were rendered in Standard Definition rather than High Definition and therefore couldn't be used for the Blu-Ray version. At least not without going back and re-doing them.

Someone obviously wasn't thinking ahead.

It was quite odd after seeing the "extended" version all these years and then the remastered version to go back and see the original. (bad matte paintings and all)

They had to have something to release a couple of years from now! :rolleyes:

oh yeah.

cha-ching!

You know trekkies, they'll buy anything with "Star Trek" on it.

And don't be so sure that when Star Wars comes to BD it'll have both versions. Remember, as far as Lucas is concerned, the revised movies ARE the originals.

There's a few million people who are of the completely different opinion of course but THAT doesn't matter....

(but alot of it DOES go to having something else to release a couple years later for the double...or maybe quad dip. It's a big topic in Hollywood, how to get us to keep buying...)

As to the remastered ST:TMP, yeah, Paramount was really asleep at the switch on the new effects mastering. But then again, they went HD exclusive when most everyone else was supporting both HD and BD (and lost a TON of money on that bad bet), so make of that what you will.

Is this Blu-ray release the first time the original theatrical version of the film has been available at home?

Qapla'

SSB

Nope. The VHS was the original theatrical version.

There were also two LaserDisc releases of the theatrical version - an early pan&scan and a widescreen letterbox edition later on.

While I thought that Paramount could have done a much better mastering job on the Blu-ray version, I am certainly not disappointed that they released the original theatrical version. It will take a lot of money, time and effort to produce the Director's Edition. I just hope that they use an all-new transfer of the original film elements when they do.

Of all of the movies included in the box set, my only true disappointment was with the quality of STIII. So much DNR was used that you can actually see the grain "swimming" like pond scum in certain scenes. The color levels were also excessively high throughout.

Having worked with film for so many decades, it certainly doesn't offend me to see film grain in a blu-ray disc, since the whole point is to reproduce a film-like experience. But, the effects of excessive DNR are certainly objectionable and unsightly in every case.

Nope. The VHS was the original theatrical version.Was there an initial VHS release, then? I know the VHS version I had for many years was the "expanded," network TV version with added scenes.

Qapla'

SSB

Scott, that would have been the initial tape release. Pan&scan. Later there was a widescreen VHS which (unless I'm remembering it wrong) was the theatrical relaese.

Scott, that would have been the initial tape release. Pan&scan. Later there was a widescreen VHS which (unless I'm remembering it wrong) was the theatrical relaese.

You remember correctly. Widescreen theatrical version. It was done to be included with the box set release of....oh, lordly, everything up to Generations? but it was also available on it's own, and it's the version I've watched again and again.

I LIKE it. I liked it back in 1979, I like it now. Yes, it's a very, very flawed film, but man, you had to BE there to understand just how MAJOR it was...

ah well.

No more ST blu rays for me. Just watcher Star Trek II. Sure, it looks good but where's that cadet telling off Kirk?

Star Trek II anyway..."Don't have kittens...", "Teaming up with me for bridge after dinner?" We know who he was raised by! TMP was better. Just throwing it out there. Hey David, does your mom know about you and Jeddo?

Anyone know if the next-gen crew movie blu rays are going to be any better?

AND...

when listening to the director commentary for Star Trek II, Nicholas Meyer mentions that he wanted Asians, blacks and "aryans" on the Regula I space station.

"Aryans"???

I know what it means. In contemporary parlance, it could be construed as him being a racist or an anti-Semite. Just saying...

He could have, nay, should have said Anglo or European.

FYI for Trek fans in the SoCal area...

http://trekweb.com/articles/2009/09/02/Star-Trek-Designers-to-be-Honored-by-the-Art-Directors-Guild-Film-Society.shtml