View Full Version : Redneck RC 2009-2010 Indoor Racing @ The Dungeon


ovalnator
09-01-2009, 11:18 PM
For the 5th straight year, we will continue to race weekly in the Dungeon! We will once again be running Thursday Nights and Sunday Afternoons, and will have the entire indoor season broken into separate Fall and Winter/Spring Seasons. Here is the info. for indoor racing:


Classes run on Sundays (Beginning Sept. 27th):
-1/10 Stock Losi Slider
-1/10 Open Sprint
-1/10 DODC Latemodels
-1/10 Small Block Truck 17.5
-1/10 Big Block Truck 13.5
-1/10 EDM Small Block 17.5
-1/10 EDM Big Block 17.5


Classes run on Thurday Nights (Beginning Sept. 24th):
-1/10 Stock Losi Slider
-1/10 Open Sprint
-1/10 Small Block Truck 17.5
-1/10 Big Block Truck 13.5
-1/10 17.5 EDM


Rules for the classes are as follows:
-Losi 1/10 Slider: Class is box stock per the Losi Rules except 3600mah NiCad or Nimh stick pack or 3200 Lipo may be used.

-1/10 Open Sprint: All Custom Works, JRC, Hyperdrive/Go Fast, Losi Slider, Klein, Cobra, and other similar sprint cars can be used. Cars must run Foam Tires, up to 13.5 Brushless Motors or 19 turn brushed motors can be used, 7.4V Lipos allowed (5400 mah max), as well as 4600 Nimh's. We encourage the use of hardshell lipos (such as those by Reedy, Peak Racing, Orion, and SMC). Front wings are allowed, Top wing must be 6"x6". Cars must weigh 3 lbs 4 oz and must resemble full scale sprint car.

-1/10 Small Block Trucks: Must use 17.5 Motors or 27T Brushed Motors. Hardshell 7.4V Lipos (5400 mah max) and Nimh's (4600 max) are allowed. Trucks must have truck arms, truck tires (either Foams, Proline Strykers, Speed Hawgs, Road Hawgs, Road Rage, or Duratrax Street Tracs), truck body (either stock style (Pro-line, Losi, etc) or oval style such as CDK, McAllister, Factory Works, etc). Offset chassis are allowed. Trucks must weigh 3 lbs 12 oz.

-1/10 Big Block Truck: Open Motor (13.5 Brushless or 19T Brushed Max), Open Battery (any 6 cell NIMH or 7.4 2 cell Lipo). Trucks must have truck arms, truck tires, truck body (either stock style (Proline, Losi, etc) or oval style such as CDK, McAllister, Factory Works etc). Offset chassis are allowed. Side Dams allowed (No more than 2.25" from Bottom of Window Outline). Trucks must weigh 3 lbs 12 oz.

-EDM Small Block - Mr Dirt Rules Apply for chassis, tires and bodies. Any 17.5 Brushless or 27T Brushed Motor, any 7.4 Volt 2 cell Lipo (5400 mah MAX), Foam Tires only. No weight Limit.

-EDM Big Block - Mr Dirt Rules Apply for chassis, tires, and bodies. Any 17.5 Brushless motors or 27 Turn Brushed motors in this class. Any brand motor may be used. 4600 max nimh's, 5400 max 7.4V 2 cell Lipos. Hardshell Lipos are encouraged. All lipos must be car oriented (meaning made by/sold by Reedy, LRP, Peak Racing, Orion, Trinity, SMC, Fantom, Pro-match Racing, Venom Racing, etc). Cars will be subject to voltage check prior to start of heat. No weight limit.

-DODC Latemodels. We will be running this class using the DODC rules as guidelines.

All EDM's:

-Bodies:
1. All cars must have an EDM body. No wedge, buggy, truck, on-road etc.
2. All bodies must be made of polycarbonate. No aluminum, etc.
3. No side dams, other than “sail panels”. Left and right sides must be symmetrical.
4. All cars should be numbered and painted.
5. Maximum body height is 7-3/4”, measured at any point.
6. Maximum body width is 8”.
7. Door panels may not extend past the centerline of the front axle.
8. Right rear tire must be at least 1/3 exposed.
9. Front tires must be fully exposed.
10. Front nosepiece may not exceed 4-1/2” in width.
11. All measurements will be given some tolerance at official’s discretion.

-Chassis:
-Minimum Wheel base = 9". Maximum Wheel base = 11.5
-Maximum overall length = 22" (includes body and front nose piece)
-Maximum Track width = 9-7/8"
-Minimum weight 3 lbs 4 oz. (52 oz. 3.25 lbs)
-Foam Tires only! No Rubber tires


All Classes:
-No Spike Tires!
-Batteries Must be either 2 Cell 7.4 Volt Lipos or 5 or 6 cell Nimh Sub C Batteries.
-All drivers must bring their car to tech BEFORE AND AFTER your race.
-Drivers using Lipos can and will be teched before start of heat.
-Lipos may not be over 8.44 Volts, or 10* above ambient temperature. Anyone caught overcharging or excessively over heating your batteries will lose their opportunity to qualify in that given race.
-Drivers caught overcharging/over warming Lipos will be given the 3 strikes opportunity. The first strike - you lose your heat. The 2nd strike (and yes, it can be months after your first strike) - you will be packing up and leaving for the day. 3rd Stike and your gone for the season. We do not need any Lipo fires in the Dungeon.
-All drivers must take their car and radio to the tech table and go directly to track to marshal the next race. If you fail to marshal, you will lose your best run.
-All Brushless 1/10 Motors must be sensored.
-All cars must be 2wd and rear wheel driven.
-Any traction compound (such as those by Trinity, RC4Less, Putnam Propulsion, etc), Marine Grease, Dr. Trannys Assembly Goo, etc, is allowed.
-No reverse is allowed during racing! We understand that some of you have ESC's that have reverse. If possible, please lock it out.
-No driving backwards around the track. We have seen it happen a few times in practice, which resulted in cars being broken. You will be warned once, and only once.
-All cars must have 4 wheel independent suspension. No Straight axle/Pan cars allowed!
-No practice or hot-laps in between each heat. That time is for the racers in the next race. If circumstances require a couple laps in between a heat, you will be allowed to if the race director gives you the OK. This does not mean open practice between every heat. It means 1 or 2 laps to make sure everything is working, then back to the pit until your race.

We are also implementing a 70 Lap rule for Small Block EDMs. If you are consistently running 70 laps or more, you're bumping up.


Entry fee will be $10. Racers may run up to 2 classes (so its $10 if you run 2 classes, or $10 if you run 1). Racers may run unlimited classes for $15. However, drivers in Big Block may not run in Small Block EDM, and vice versa.


The track is located at:
Redneck RC LLC
120 Cayuga St
Fulton, NY 13069

(315)-532-6826


If anyone has any questions, please feel free to post here, PM me, email me or call the shop. I will try to have everything printed out and posted around the track room ASAP

DPEEK27
09-02-2009, 09:08 PM
Bb 17.5?

shiman
09-03-2009, 12:35 AM
bb is 17.5 what the??????so the body can be how much taller...i know i'm not a weekly racer there ..just wondering what is the reasoning???is that 150 lap race the same rules???

DPEEK27
09-05-2009, 12:37 AM
Be nice Shilo, not everyone can drive as good as you! Give the girls break....lol

Jeff99
09-05-2009, 08:38 AM
Be nice Shilo, not everyone can drive as good as you! Give the girls break....lol

Shilo and I have been messaging each other about running 13.5 whenever you guys come to the dungeon. You in?

DPEEK27
09-05-2009, 09:24 AM
Yes! for sure, 17.5 is way to slow for guys like Shilo BOYce!

shiman
09-05-2009, 10:31 AM
Yes! for sure, 17.5 is way to slow for guys like Shilo BOYce!for SURE,as long as i have dave PEEk setting my car up..sprint cars are still big block (358) i havn't won there yet,but i'm not the person that wants to put a slower motor in my car , i want to get better at driving with a motor ,that i drive with the trigger finger ,the last time i did race there i thought 13.5 was perfect for red neck..(hey another kayak trip i might not be able to do that..)And i was tooking back for a track that was non dodc ,my view is that they did not want to be = slower???i say again i don't race there every week ,but when i do i look forward to raceing 13.5 ...thats my 23 cents davepeek:wave:

DirtOvalDude
09-05-2009, 11:23 AM
I assumed the 17.5 in BB class was a typo. Why run 2 classes BB and SB with the same motor? 13.5 is a nice speed for that track. Heck ill run 10.5 with Shilo Peek and Hotaling! Let her rip!!!

DPEEK27
09-05-2009, 12:44 PM
Shilo are you going to run your new Hyperdrive car in November?

kw racing
09-05-2009, 03:39 PM
hey I'm in for 13.5 i should be going down once or twice a month.
Keith Watson

shiman
09-05-2009, 04:58 PM
Shilo are you going to run your new Hyperdrive car in November?i don't have a hyperdrive edm???but i guess my less handleing sprintcar can still have a 13.5 ,if that makes sense???which is a hyperdrive

DPEEK27
09-05-2009, 11:45 PM
Shilo how about 10.5 at s&h? sounds like fun "trigger"

ovalnator
09-06-2009, 01:19 AM
17.5 for big block is not a typo. If there are guys who want to run a 13.5 class, or open mod of whatever, as long as we have 4 we will run them. The only class we run that uses DODC rules as guidelines is the Latemodel class, so if you guys want to run 13.5 whenever you come out, it does not have to be DODC motor and battery.

17.5s were chosen because all but 1 or 2 big block racers (who race there weekly) preferred that 17.5s be used because it would make the racing closer. Had to please the majority, not the minority.

ovalnator
09-16-2009, 11:17 AM
ttt...

Track is just about ready to go, and it is VERY FAST. Racing will start in just over a week, see everyone there!

Butch
09-16-2009, 08:08 PM
What compound tires do they use on a CW Outlaw.
Butch

ovalnator
09-23-2009, 10:19 AM
I'd start with BSR Pinks

Butch
09-23-2009, 12:39 PM
Thanks-Butch

DPEEK27
09-24-2009, 11:34 AM
Butch, RC4less silvers work all over and worked well at Rednecks the last time I raced there. Ask Jeff Hotaling, he like them too!

Butch
09-24-2009, 09:00 PM
Thanks for the tips.
Butch

XXX-Steve
09-24-2009, 09:25 PM
Hey Butch, I think that EDM I bought used to run on this track. Has the BSR silver compound on all four corners.

ovalnator
09-25-2009, 02:03 PM
Yesterday was the first day of racing at the Dungeon. Winning car in both EDM and Sprint was running BSR Pinks. BSR Silvers were also being run.

DirtOvalDude
09-25-2009, 05:50 PM
Wow and look, the winning EDM also won by 8 laps and 9 laps in sprint!!:dude:

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=266955

BSR Pinks it is.

DPEEK27
09-25-2009, 10:35 PM
Thats because you didn't go Snyder....lol

ovalnator
09-26-2009, 10:45 AM
Wow and look, the winning EDM also won by 8 laps and 9 laps in sprint!!:dude:

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=266955

BSR Pinks it is.

Both races were wreckfests. I was hoping Jeff Hotaling was going to run because he had been practicing down there, but he only showed up to watch.

DPEEK27
09-26-2009, 11:45 AM
Jeff who?......lol

Razoo
09-27-2009, 04:40 PM
What compounds are you guys running for the trucks?

ovalnator
09-28-2009, 12:49 PM
Yesterday, BSR Silvers, BSR Pinks and RC4Less Silvers were run with much success by most A Main racers. The track got a shiny, dark, glazed look in the groove, however, tire selection remained the same. I believe that everyone will be fine running a 25-30 shore tire, whether its one of the compounds mentioned above, or something like a CRC 25 or 30, or even a BSR Double Pink. There was 1 racers running double pinks, and in my opinion he had a car capable of winning, but has yet to run a clean 4 min race. TQ was set on BSR Pinks @ 75 laps, same as TQ for 13.5 @ the WDRA race in May. I know there was some concerns from the Albany clan about changing to 17.5, but it appears that they are about 3/4 lap off the average TQ pace of 13.5's from last year.

In the truck, most everyone is running Proline Stryker 2 and Duratrax Street Tracs. I believe there was one truck running Panther Slicks also. I believe the truck guys are afraid to run foams because they do get their wheels caught with one another, and believe they will chunk their tires. For this reason, we will be allowing rubber tires for the trucks @ the Mr Dirt Nationals in November, because the foam only rule may keep many of them from running.

If anyone would like any setup, gearing, or tire info, please feel free to PM me or email me at matto29@yahoo.com