hello, new to the pan car racing!! have been running offroad nitro for a while now, and just got my first pan car, its a hyperdrive pro 2, i also just bought a lrp sphere 07 and a 17.5 for it. pretty excited to run it!!! always watched them and thought they were pretty crazy fast!!! and thats all me!!!! lol. does anybody have any helpful hints on weather i got the right motor and what batteries i need, would like to stick to 2cell lipos if there is a class for that anymore, i hear the rules change everyday and thats the only thing bad about the carpet oval racing. any helpful hint would be great! thanks, mike

Hey there Mike. the best advice anyone can give you as for classes is, to check with your local track once they start up for the season what the guys wanna run. 2cell 17.5 is a very fast class but guys do still run it places! depending on the track my guess on the biggest pan car classes this year are, 21.5 2cell, 13.5 1cell, and 10.5 1cell. all 3 of these classes are slower then 2cell 17.5. hope that helps a bit. oh and good luck and welcome to PAN CAR!

thanks bud, did you get your email?? would like to race at snowbirds this year and wondered what would be best for a beginner, looks like the 1 cell deal. thanks

yes got it. depending on how comfortable you feel by then but i would say 13.5 1cell. or 17.5 1cell. both will be fun and full classes im sure

you dint say anything about 17.5 1 cell in the first responce....lol

lol well i must of missed that one :) but actually 17.5 1cell is meant for guys like you. meaning for guys first getting into pan car or guys with less experience. that being said im not sure how many guys at your local track are new to pan car so that limits the class some. hey i emailed yah!

guys like me.....lol..... email back at ya!!

hey inferno down in bay city and mt. pleasant we run a spec class for guys just getting started and we run 17.5 one cell in that class along with spec tires. our next class up this yr. would be 13.5 one cell with the same tires. go to oval track discussion and check out bay city or mt pleasants forum and they have a set of rules for the different classes.

ill check it out, thanks hobbyten!!

good luck inferno

thanks, ill need it!!! lol

still need help!!! what do i need for pan car???? i have seen about 5 sites, and they all say somthing differnt, i have a hd pro 2 and bought a lrp 07 and a 17.5 motor!!! what batteries do i need to look for???? please be specific...lol, want to run many classes. what other motors should i look for??? thanks, mike

Whoa, hold on, there, Skippy...I wouldn't go jumpin' in with both feet just yet. You say you want "run many classes", but let's get ya goin' in the right direction first. Oval pan cars are whole a different aminule from that beast of a offroad nitro car. Pan cars are very specialized and take a lot of chassis work to get fast. If I were you, stick with whatever the "stock" class is at your local track. I've been running these things for 20+ years and still am only marginal (as a driver) at best. (I don't have the time to spend working on my cars all week; I just load up and head to the track.)

Get to know the fast guys at your track. Make friends and get some chassis tuning and motor/battery advice. Much simpler these days with LiPo and brushless. Get to know these guys on HobbyTalk.

My advice. Take it easy and learn first. THEN go fast and turn left :thumbsup:

Whoa, hold on, there, Skippy...I wouldn't go jumpin' in with both feet just yet. You say you want "run many classes", but let's get ya goin' in the right direction first. Oval pan cars are whole a different aminule from that beast of a offroad nitro car. Pan cars are very specialized and take a lot of chassis work to get fast. If I were you, stick with whatever the "stock" class is at your local track. I've been running these things for 20+ years and still am only marginal (as a driver) at best. (I don't have the time to spend working on my cars all week; I just load up and head to the track.)

Get to know the fast guys at your track. Make friends and get some chassis tuning and motor/battery advice. Much simpler these days with LiPo and brushless. Get to know these guys on HobbyTalk.

My advice. Take it easy and learn first. THEN go fast and turn left :thumbsup:
lol..., none of the guys at my our track run pancar, so there is no class here. i am reading and reading and well everybody has there opinion, but they are so differnt i dont know what to go by and what to ignore, i hear the rules change every day in this pancar thing and just want to race!!! thats all i want, dont want to show up somewhere and have them tell me oh....you cant race that, i know alot of people here but not to many pancar racers. what to do... what to do??

If you are going to run the BRL or tour, you will most likely need a 1 cell lipo pack. The official approval list should be out in about a month, but if you want to run the 17.5 class on 1 cell at the big races, you will have to use the smc 4000 mah/25C pack. All other classes can use any approved pack.

Now the local track I run, there are only 2 racers running 1 cell. Myself and one other. Biggest class is "stock" which has most guys running 17.5 with a 4 cell Nimh. I have been running that class with a 13.5 and 1 cell. Good close racing, but the 1 Cell has a big advantage over the long run 6 to 10 min, it just doesnt drop off as fast as the 4 cells. The next biggest class is 21.5 2S, then 17.5 2S. I think there will be more running 1 cell in stock after seeing how my car runs. They fast guys are not sold on the 1 cell 7.5 vs the 17.5 2S. They think the 17.5 is a better setup.

John

If you are going to run the BRL or tour, you will most likely need a 1 cell lipo pack. The official approval list should be out in about a month, but if you want to run the 17.5 class on 1 cell at the big races, you will have to use the smc 4000 mah/25C pack. All other classes can use any approved pack.

Now the local track I run, there are only 2 racers running 1 cell. Myself and one other. Biggest class is "stock" which has most guys running 17.5 with a 4 cell Nimh. I have been running that class with a 13.5 and 1 cell. Good close racing, but the 1 Cell has a big advantage over the long run 6 to 10 min, it just doesnt drop off as fast as the 4 cells. The next biggest class is 21.5 2S, then 17.5 2S. I think there will be more running 1 cell in stock after seeing how my car runs. They fast guys are not sold on the 1 cell 7.5 vs the 17.5 2S. They think the 17.5 is a better setup.

John
so..... i have a 17.5 and a lrp speedo, i should look for 4 cell nimh packs or a 1c lipo, what mah on both nimh and 1c lipo??

if you run 17.5 one cell you will need the smc 4000mah 3.7 25c pack and with the lrp you will either need a rx pack or novak booster to power the servo and RX if you run the BRL rules you need to find out what the track is going to run where you will race.

Check Lefthander for these things

My vote for a 1st chassis would be a Gen1 KSG .

Jake

if you run 17.5 one cell you will need the smc 4000mah 3.7 25c pack and with the lrp you will either need a rx pack or novak booster to power the servo and RX if you run the BRL rules you need to find out what the track is going to run where you will race.

Check Lefthander for these things

My vote for a 1st chassis would be a Gen1 KSG .

Jake
do you consider a hd pro2 shortie to be good??

do you consider a hd pro2 shortie to be good??

Sorry I do not run HD cars so I have no comment good bad or indiffent.They will all work just simple is best when starting out

You like it run it.

Jake

so..... i have a 17.5 and a lrp speedo, i should look for 4 cell nimh packs or a 1c lipo, what mah on both nimh and 1c lipo?? go for the lipo we don't run any nimhs in michigans northern area carpet tracks. we are pretty much using the tour rules for our classes in bay city and mt pleasant.

grand rapids is running the same rules as bay city and mt pleasant

i may go to grandrapids i have relatives there.

go for the lipo we don't run any nimhs in michigans northern area carpet tracks. we are pretty much using the tour rules for our classes in bay city and mt pleasant.
lipos it is!!

if you run 17.5 one cell you will need the smc 4000mah 3.7 25c pack and with the lrp you will either need a rx pack or novak booster to power the servo and RX if you run the BRL rules you need to find out what the track is going to run where you will race.

Check Lefthander for these things

My vote for a 1st chassis would be a Gen1 KSG .

Jake

you have to have the booster or battery pack for the 6 cell esc but do you need it for the 4 cell esc like the gtb?

you really don't need it for ether

you have to have the booster or battery pack for the 6 cell esc but do you need it for the 4 cell esc like the gtb?

You dont need it for the Novak 4 or 6 cell esc just the Lrp and Tekin.

Jake

You dont need it for the Novak 4 or 6 cell esc just the Lrp and Tekin.

Jake
WHY???

The novak ESC seems to run OK on a 1 cell. The steering servo will be slower without the RX pack or booster, but the ESC's seem to work.

The Tekin will not work without the higher voltage. Tried it with mine and I had to use a RX pack or a booster.

John

Mike we are going with Tour rules up here
I have a feeling you will be racing here and MP when I go down there to race Because I will stop by and get you so Just follow TOUR rules and you will be set LMK if need anything from me as I am the pancar go to guy up here to for set up but I can tell you what you will need and where to get the advice from

WHY???

They are not made to work on anything lower than 6V and the Novak is.

Jake

ok, thanks

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im very very new to this! actually just got my car in the mail today!!! car looks awsome!!! thanks joe!!!!!! and i will meet up with casey so he can help me out!!! i do need some 64p pinions and spurs if anybody has some to get rid of...lol thanks

Mike we are going with Tour rules up here
I have a feeling you will be racing here and MP when I go down there to race Because I will stop by and get you so Just follow TOUR rules and you will be set LMK if need anything from me as I am the pancar go to guy up here to for set up but I can tell you what you will need and where to get the advice from
casey....HELP.....LOL, call me at home when ya can, thanks!!!!

OK Once again,,,,,,,The ESC isn't what needs the increase in voltage!!!!!!!!!! NOW Listen......YOUR RX and SERVO NEEDS a little higher voltage to run properly!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT ESC YOU USE DOESN'T matter!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your ESC is just a Switch!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have you ever dumped and crawled around back to the pits.......Low voltage.......

Actually the Tekin wont run the motor until is sees a higher voltage on the red/black wire from the RX. Tried it didnt work and I had to hook it a booster or RX pack.

John

like i said before.... i have a lrp 07 edition.....never had tekin and never will have novak!! had 3 novaks and had nothing but problems! 3 strike rule....lol. what do i need for lrp??

thanks for the help casey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! race with ya soon!!!!

MIKE calm down.... lol take a deep breath!.... ok you ready? well here goes. if you could handle the trucks for all these years and NITRO, then trust me PAN car OVAL is a breeze! lol just bare with us we will make sure you make it through! lol to be serious all you need to know is that your LRP needs a receiver pack. or a BOOSTER. either way you will be fine! so basicly $20 bucks either way and your good to go! unless you end up running 2cell lipo then you wont need a thing!

last yr. i ran the micro t battery for my reciever pack and it worked great. they run about 10 bucks.

ya, i have receiver packs and micro t batteries.

I think that your mindset should be to set goals.
Learn how to maintain the car properly, as this is critical if you want consistency.
Learn what does what, and when as far as chassis tuning. Here's a helpful link (page 12) http://www.customworksrc.com/aa_support/models/0800/0800_manual_web.pdf

Make laps. You will need to find the fast line at any given track, and learn to hit your marks. At our home track we can possibly give up 3 tenths overal per lap if we're not hitting our marks. This has been proven with a well setup car.

Be patient. Move over for the hotshoes when they run up on you, race everyone clean, and follow them when you do get passed. I have followed some of the fast guys before and those laps were the fastest of that entire race for myself.

Attitude. Be positive, and know that everyone at the track had to start somewhere just like you. Oval racing is the most competitive form of racing{IMO}, and it was tough in the beginning. Hell I remember after a few months of racing a 4th place finish meant alot. Still does.
Go to the track to have fun, because if you have the right attitude, there is alot of fun to be had no matter where you finish.

Again keep the car in top notch condition (especially the front end), be patient, set your goals before you pack up. If you are consistent the win will come soon enough. Good luck and I'm glad to see someone make the move to oval.:thumbsup:

I think that your mindset should be to set goals.
Learn how to maintain the car properly, as this is critical if you want consistency.
Learn what does what, and when as far as chassis tuning. Here's a helpful link (page 12) http://www.customworksrc.com/aa_support/models/0800/0800_manual_web.pdf

Make laps. You will need to find the fast line at any given track, and learn to hit your marks. At our home track we can possibly give up 3 tenths overal per lap if we're not hitting our marks. This has been proven with a well setup car.

Be patient. Move over for the hotshoes when they run up on you, race everyone clean, and follow them when you do get passed. I have followed some of the fast guys before and those laps were the fastest of that entire race for myself.

Attitude. Be positive, and know that everyone at the track had to start somewhere just like you. Oval racing is the most competitive form of racing{IMO}, and it was tough in the beginning. Hell I remember after a few months of racing a 4th place finish meant alot. Still does.
Go to the track to have fun, because if you have the right attitude, there is alot of fun to be had no matter where you finish.

Again keep the car in top notch condition (especially the front end), be patient, set you goals before you pack up. If you are consistent the win will come soon enough. Good luck and I'm glad to see someone make the move to oval.:thumbsup:

nicely worded big dog.im still learning:p

I'm still learning too. Once you quit learning, you're just not paying attention. LOL

Never mind!!!!!!!!!

thats all i want to do!!! is have fun!!!

well, decided to do the nastruck beginner class, i think they call sportsman, i have the 17.5 and speedo and HD PRO 2 shorty, and just got a nastruck body, i guessing all i need now is the 1 cell 25c 4000mah lipo and the world gt tires? right?? anybody have that stuff forsale??

im not sure about the tires. but the smc 25c packs are on the swap and sell all the time. new they are around 60 so im sure you can find some for around $40 or so. good luck bud let us know how that car works!

if i can get the body on it...lol, that monte carlo body.....well lets just say not useing that one...lol. trying to do everything myslef, thats what makes it the hobby right??

I hate mounting bodies! I'm just terrible at it. I usually run them until they fall apart like a CORR truck. The wheel wells are usually as big as the CORR truck too when I'm through with them too.LOL!!!!

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