to be continued!! :thumbsup:

Is Bill H coming out of retirement?

we will have more answers in the next day or 2 but i do not think Bill H will be comming out of the hall of fame lol

were are going to find the tracks ?

were are going to find the tracks ?
????......

this would be a great series to have back!

i have a list of tracks right now and am in the process of calling all them and making a schedule.stay tuned!!!!!

I hope one of those is the Coliseum.......

i have a list of tracks right now and am in the process of calling all them and making a schedule.stay tuned!!!!!

How about the new track in Somerset PA? Good to see the ORL coming back.

If Tracks Are Interested Contact Me Asap And I Will See What We Can Put Together.i Need Track Size And Locations And Size Of Pit Areas.

count me in...

count me in...
what for the ORL race at the strand

what for the ORL race at the strand

unless you make him go to another track:hat:

unless you make him go to another track:hat:

Why aren't you in bed.?????:wave:

Great news Oz.

Will there be a class for S/K cars with battery slots?:freak:

SL

unless you make him go to another track:hat:
no no you have it all wrong ,,,,i have to make his wife let him go

Ozzy, drop me an e-mail, I don't know if I have your current e-address. :roll:

Thanks,
Bill
bill@billhenning.com

sent billy

obrien, get a job ya bum.

behler, load up your quad and come riding with us.

Any updates?

the plan is this so far. there is 13 tracks plus on the list.we want to have 13 races with 3 drops.the orl will have a set of rules that will be very similar to the tour rules with some tweaks do to the fact that those rules are great for the tracks that they have on there schedule.there will however be a slight difference in the ORL rules and class selections. for instance the beginner/novice class would be a 17.5 single cell cot body class.the next would be a 13.5 pro single cell class with any legal body.(cot included) and a 10.5 single cell expert class. now my reason and alot of people i have talked to about the cot and regular bodies we have been running be allowed in the 13.5 class is the cot may not work at every track surface. the cot only rule works fine for the tour do to the fact they are all flat oval carpet tracks. not sure that that would work at track 70 (high speed concrete trioval cap tire track) plus when the schedule is released you will see that some races on there the cot may be the only body to run for that track.(suprise tracks for the tour).i took into consideration about the birds running the cot in 13.5 with a cot only body and feel the guys that will be running that class will get the cars setup at a local oval track the month before the birds like they did with the truck class last year and were successful at the birds with that setup they came up with right before they left to go to the birds. who knows the track that the orl has on the schedule a month before the birds that is the closest to the birds layout we could make a cot only body for that race just to give the racers a taste of what they will get at the birds. we want the racers to decide what they think is best for them and by the end of the season we can adjust or change rules if need be. still no rules or schedule is yet set in stone. will post a schedule soon.

:( the cot bodies are being judged with out even trying them. will thet work at trax 70 maybe not. will they work everywhere else ya i think so. to force a body for just 1 of the races will hurt attendance for that 1 race. just like the years that no one wanted to buy caps just for 1 race for trax 70. the 1 cell 13.5 BRL season that is coming up will be running the cot body. is it because of their TOUR series race? NO. they are running the cot body because that is the new rule that most of the country will be running. the TOUR rules were not made for a series of races. they were made for everyone. every year before the carpet season start we are clamering for what the rules will be for the big races being held that year. not just because we may go to those races but because so when we chat on hobbytalk nation wide about a certain class we are basically running the same class. do i think the cot body will handle worse than a regular body? YES. but it will handle the same for everyone. it could make for some great racing.

i think letting the racer decide what body they want to race is a good idea.

Our track is going to start the season requiring the COT in 13.5. We want to give it a fair chance. If by Christmas everyone hates it, we will take a vote whether to keep it or not. I know on our tight track the COT will push real bad. Very reminiscent of the truck bodies. Our regulars did not like running them either.

:( the cot bodies are being judged with out even trying them. will thet work at trax 70 maybe not. will they work everywhere else ya i think so. to force a body for just 1 of the races will hurt attendance for that 1 race. just like the years that no one wanted to buy caps just for 1 race for trax 70. the 1 cell 13.5 BRL season that is coming up will be running the cot body. is it because of their TOUR series race? NO. they are running the cot body because that is the new rule that most of the country will be running. the TOUR rules were not made for a series of races. they were made for everyone. every year before the carpet season start we are clamering for what the rules will be for the big races being held that year. not just because we may go to those races but because so when we chat on hobbytalk nation wide about a certain class we are basically running the same class. do i think the cot body will handle worse than a regular body? YES. but it will handle the same for everyone. it could make for some great racing.

I agree 100%. FWIW. It would be nice if the entire NE region was on the same page. I am looking forward to the COT.

Can't believe I'm going to say this, but I agree with Alan. The purpose of TOUR is to standardize some of the rules when people want to travel from one track to another. So, creating a "traveling" series which is inconsistent with that just doesn't make sense. Especially when many of the tracks will be following the TOUR rules. If anything, the ORL should ONLY show up at tracks which DO follow the TOUR rules.

Chuck

now my reason and alot of people i have talked to about the cot and regular bodies we have been running be allowed in the 13.5 class is the cot may not work at every track surface. the cot only rule works fine for the tour do to the fact they are all flat oval carpet tracks. not sure that that would work at track 70 (high speed concrete trioval cap tire track)
I think making sound decisions based on fact, rather than guesses is a much better strategy. Have you talked with Charlie at Trax70 to see if he has any idea how the COT bodies work at there? How about any of the other tracks?

plus when the schedule is released you will see that some races on there the cot may be the only body to run for that track.(suprise tracks for the tour).
Great, so then people running 13.5 would have to purchase bodies for more than 1 track. This doesn't make sense.

Chuck

We run COT bodies at Trax 70 weekly in our breakout class. It's a 7 sec Fastest lap time but the cars run 6.6 and 6.7's in practice mode which is only .3 off of most of the 1c 10.5 cars, and .5 off of the fast guys in 10.5. So there should be no problems with the body working there in 13.5.

do you run the body as is or do you add a 2nd wing? and what about the bodies all the other manufactures made? i see it as wasting there money in time and molds.i painted like 20 chevy ,thd,and charger bodies for people for this comming season.what do they do with them not to mention the chd body was not released that long ago.make a cot 17.5 spec class for that.and like i said no rule is set in stone i want the racers that are going to run the orl have the say in what body they want to run not people who may never attend one. i am just saying that this would be orl rules like brl had there own rules.you can runa cot if you want to.not forcing a guy to run a body he dont.

we run them just the way they come..

and what about the bodies all the other manufactures made? i see it as wasting there money in time and molds. i painted like 20 chevy ,thd,and charger bodies for people for this comming season.what do they do with them not to mention the chd body was not released that long ago.
How many of those bodies are slated for the 10.5 1c or 21.5 2c classes? Most likely not all of them, but some percentage. As for the manufacturers, I'm sure they will sell plenty of THD, CHD and Charger bodies for the 10.5 and 21.5 classes.

i am just saying that this would be orl rules like brl had there own rules.
If we're going to follow in BRL's footsteps, then shouldn't we just adopt TOUR rules as they did?

As for having the racers decide, just start a poll. Then you should be able to get a decent handle on what the racers really want. Seems straight forward.

Chuck

ill be running this series as much as i can either way. where i live now im withen 2 hours of 4-5 tracks. thats a good start. whatever the rules are ill be attending! if it does come down to a vote i say cot in 13.5 and regular body in 10.5 but thats just my 2cents of opinion.

whatever the case will be ill be racing!

If there is a pole, only people planning on running the 13.5 class should vote. Too many people all over Hobbytalk have an opinion on the 13.5 class, but don't ever planning on running it. If you set up the pole, make the voters names viewable. I don't care which body we run, I am just tired of the bickering about it. 90% of the people I talk to hate the COT, but for some reason we are still running it. I know the idea of creating identities for classes was the whole reason, but where is the identity difference between 10.5 and 7.5? Forcing guys to run a COT makes it harder for people to jump around different classes, it's not as simple as only changing a motor anymore.

Why concern yourselfs with righting rules, Just use TOUR rules this year and see how it goes.:confused:

The rules are allready written it's called the " T O U R "
Just follow them and there shouldnt be any problems.
Everyone will be on the same playingfield, nomatter what races you will be attending around the country.
The T O U R covers the major races as well as local and club races.
thats my 2 cents

Huckleberry

Peace out

heres the logos for the classes that henning designed for the last year of the orl but changed for this year.

Glad to see the ORL will or should be going again. I always enjoyed reading about the races when Bill was doing them!

I don't know if you guys will be going toward the socalled "TOUR" rules or not. I haven't really followed that deal too much, so I don't know if they have rules of their own, or if they just wait for ROAR to legalize something, then allow it.

You guys need to do what works the best for the majority of your followers and supporters, if that's going the 'TOUR' direction, or going your own way.

Either way GOOD LUCK, and keep a website alive so people can follow it!!

LONG LIVE Series Racing!!

I propose running two 13.5 classes for the first season. One with each body. One of them will die off by the end of the year and that will give a strong foundation for the next year. At least this gives the option to racers who may be struggling with setups or handling. I would rather see them switch over to the open body instead of quitting because they may not be comfortable jumping up to the faster classes.

i remember in the orl series from the years past alot of guys complaining about 4 cell stock. why are you running that and that class is slow.then by the end of the series everyone was running stock.it was the only class at the end of the season.people realized how expensive the faster class was.tire wear and also the damage done to the cars from the crashes and wrecks caused by other drivers running a class that is too fast for there driving ability.wich could happen this year if alot of people that do not want to run a cot body move up to the faster class. no matter what the rules are and what everyone complaines about it will work itself out by the end of the season.

I propose running two 13.5 classes for the first season. One with each body. One of them will die off by the end of the year and that will give a strong foundation for the next year. At least this gives the option to racers who may be struggling with setups or handling. I would rather see them switch over to the open body instead of quitting because they may not be comfortable jumping up to the faster classes.
Yeah, that doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

On a brighter side, it looks like 3-1 people are voting for COT only in the poll results. That doesn't even count the "I dont' care" votes.

Chuck

the funny thing about the rule and the vote to me is how many people actually mounted and ran one of these bodies and how much did they run it?i have mounted 4 of them for people and painted them.the body post heights are 1/2 taller than the others that all pretty much were the same height for the rear posts.i actually have to make all my posts longer for the gf body posts i sell for the rip cars.i beleive the ovar all roof heights on this car is like 4 3/4 inches with small tires on it. soo there should def not be a problem for tracks that check roof height. the body has a short nose and a lot of rear hangover wich to me seems like the car is not going to turn alot at all. but we will see when everyone that is voting actuall runs it in a true 13.5 40 c single cell class not a break out class or 17.5 class wich i feel is a perfect speed for that body. the 16 people that voted i see only 2 guys that have raced it and that was 1 race with 2 heats. i just am old i guess and dont like to fix what was not broken.my 13 cents lol

[/quote]You guys need to do what works the best for the majority of your followers and supporters, if that's going the 'TOUR' direction, or going your own way.

Either way GOOD LUCK, and keep a website alive so people can follow it!!

LONG LIVE Series Racing!![/quote]
we will be doing some of our own rules this year.the body rule i was trying to give everyone a fair chance to see if that rule was best for them and that class. 1 rule i do know we will differ from others is that all the classes we run this series will run 40 c batteries or lower this whole season.50 c or higher would be for open mod classes wich we do not run. there will be no voting on that.alot of guys just bought 40 c packs and did not run them yet and are upset a 50 c came out already and they did not run the 40 c yet.

Lets stop the Arguing about this stupid body thing. The ORL won't be starting until the new year. That leaves us 3 months to test the COT on the 13.5 cars. If it isn't working out at the local tracks, then a month before the ORL starts you open it up to the old bodies and that gives everyone a month to prepare. If it is working, then great, thats what we run. I would rather not split a class, but we need to make a rule where the majority is happy.

Here is a question that can start an aguement. Why wasn't the COT body put on 7.5 or 10.5? That is the body replicating the Sprint Cup series which is the fastest nascar class. The TOUR is doing things backwards. COT=Faster Classes Nationwide=Slower Classes. Let the posting begin.....lol

true we should run the cot in all classes then its the same for everyone and if the track you go to race at is not running mod or 10.5 all you have to do is change your motor.lol hi al

lets see a show of hands who has raced in a past orl...... in more than one race at there home track???........:wave:

lets see a show of hands who has raced in a past orl...... in more than one race at there home track???........:wave:

some of the people that voted for the cot have not racedd at an ORL race but the old series did not cover the territory that this one will:wave:

we will see.....

al you got a pm

:wave: i did and i still would be if it wouldn't have been shut down.

as far as i'm concerned, them last two choices on that pole could be added together...

:wave: i did and i still would be if it wouldn't have been shut down.

as far as i'm concerned, them last two choices on that pole could be added together...

wow i thought the first and thast could be added together. :rolleyes: