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AJ-1701
08-16-2009, 09:33 AM
Just to let you all know that I finally started on my big FS1 this week end. After getting the last of the add ons needed last week with Pauls PE and Decal set those little voices started to whisper to me again...:tongue:

To date I have added the pe parts to the walls and assmbled the internal girders then primed em all. Before priming the girders though I went back and filled in the gaps and sanded down the seam on the insde of the ring and heres hoping I managed to sand off the pesky seam on the girder faces.
These two little box pieces are gonna be interesting to light???
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/PEparts1.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/Picture021e.jpg
The white box the forward console is resting on is one of the light boxes I have made to put behing the pe for back lighting
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/Picture020e.jpg
This shot shows the cage glued and sitting in the floor to keep it plumb whilst the glue dries.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/Picture018e.jpg

Things I will tackle next will be painting the floor and dressing the bed... I'm still in the design/decide stage about the lighting. I'm pretty sure I'll be putting a very thin piece of plasticard or white copy paper behind the pe consoles to soften and difuse the light maybe not covering all of them just to vary the intensity of the light and I may yet still use fo's in some of the multi light panels with some blinkies. I'll just have to be carefull not to wash out those great decals...:drunk:

Cheers,

Alec. :wave:

miniature sun
08-16-2009, 10:00 AM
Alec,

I reckon there is enough space inside those little boxes to insert either some rectangular LED's or mount some small 3mm hi-intensity white LED's on the outer edge to shine into the boxes.
Glad to see someone else tackling the brass set...I'm going away for a week tomorrow so you'll probably be way ahead of me when I get back!
BTW check out the tip on using foil in the lighting section of the forum.

Paulbo
08-16-2009, 05:41 PM
Looking good, Alec.

One tip for the lighting: fill each of the light openings (not the main console displays, though) with Micro Kristal Klear ( link (http://www.microscale.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=MI-9&Category_Code=FINPROD&Product_Count=3) ) then hit them from behind with a solid layer of dull coat or frosting paint.

This will give the decals something to sit on, while helping to promote even lighting.

I'm looking forward to seeing everything primed.

AJ-1701
08-17-2009, 05:12 AM
Thanks for the tip :thumbsup: I was trying to work out how to do it so the decals wouldn't hollow in. Thats what I love about this BB. :)

Cheers,

Alec

AJ-1701
08-18-2009, 09:40 AM
Alec,

I reckon there is enough space inside those little boxes to insert either some rectangular LED's or mount some small 3mm hi-intensity white LED's on the outer edge to shine into the boxes.
Glad to see someone else tackling the brass set...I'm going away for a week tomorrow so you'll probably be way ahead of me when I get back!
BTW check out the tip on using foil in the lighting section of the forum.

You are proberbly right about the little leds but I didn't hollow them out so I'll live with out lights in them and yes I caught on to your foil tape post but I'm haveing some trouble sourcing it down here so I may just resort to h/duty kitchen foil and ca glue:p

Any way hope you have/had a good break.

Cheers,

Alec.

BTW Paul I corrected the little error so its all good now. :thumbsup:

Paulbo
08-18-2009, 09:52 AM
The foil tape should be available at most any home improvement mega-store in either the tape/adhesive or the heating/cooling area (it's quite literally "duct tape" for sealing metal ductwork).

If you can't end up finding it, replace the CA adhesive for the aluminium foil with wide scrapbooking adhesive that you can find at a well stocked crafting store. (Think a 5 or 6 cm wide piece of double-faced Scotch tape.) This will be a far less messy option. It has a release liner on it, so you can cut your assembled pieces to size before exposing the adhesive.

We have a chain here called "JoAnne's" that's got a huge scrapbooking department. I also picked up a little laminating machine that deposits the adhesive perfectly with no wrinkles or bubbles.

If you can't find the wide adhesive tape, then I'd stick with plain old 12mm double-faced Scotch tape and leave the CA for fixing any edge problems you end up with.

Glad you were able to swap around those consoles. Like I said in the email, 99.999% of people wouldn't notice, but ...

teslabe
08-18-2009, 07:23 PM
The foil tape should be available at most any home improvement mega-store in either the tape/adhesive or the heating/cooling area (it's quite literally "duct tape" for sealing metal ductwork).

You might try the thin lead tape used for windows when installing an alarm
system. I got a roll of it from "Radio Shack", but I'm sure any "home improvement mega-store", would also have it. Just a thought....:wave: It's very easy to work with.....

gareee
08-18-2009, 08:11 PM
Are there any pics of a completed fs with the new etching and decals in place anywhere?

Dave Metzner
08-18-2009, 11:07 PM
The etched parts have only been available in the last couple weeks, anybody who has one done already works really fast and doesn't require much sleep

AJ-1701
08-19-2009, 08:57 AM
I managed to find a couple of sources for foil tape here but it's rather expensive. I do however like the idea of the scrapbook adhesive or maybe some thin double sided tape... works for the budget too:tongue:

Ok what I have achived so far is building the light boxes and painting the walls front and back ready for Pauls micro clear suggestion. I have also finished painting the floor after a couple of attempts at getting a colour I liked for the three lite hexes. I finally settles on a pale grey colour (the flash washed it out some in the pic) as I found the yellow to cartoony and the biege I then tried to heavy (blocked a lot of light) The floor is a dark /royal blue with a light bue dusted over that for the 'freckled look' then goiven a couple of light gloss coats shot over it. I deliberatly left the raised sections half clear for when I light up the main console.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/th_Picture0131e.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/?action=view&current=Picture0131e.jpg)http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/th_Picture0152e.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/?action=view&current=Picture0152e.jpg)
I tried to 'dress up the bunk area so I had a shot at some add ons... :rolleyes: The sheets and blanket for the bunk are foolscape paper trimmed and folded with the pillow being a piece of thick card then it was all painted and shaded up. The cupboard I did in Tamiyas sky grey them brushed in a black wash in the grooves between the draws n doors then thinned down the grey and sprayed that over the dried black lines followed by a quick dry brush of a paler blue grey before dusting it again in the origional grey. I like the finished look as it gives them some depth and a slightly used feel.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/th_Picture0141e.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/?action=view&current=Picture0141e.jpg)http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/th_Picture0142e.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/?action=view&current=Picture0142e.jpg)
After finishing the walls I did a couple of test shots with them in place so I could start on my wiring plan. The dark grey is citadels chardon granite then dry brushed with a lightend mix of that and white. The grey consoles are my own blend of the sky grey and black which should give a good background for the decals.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/th_walltest2e.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/?action=view&current=walltest2e.jpg)http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/th_walltest1e.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/?action=view&current=walltest1e.jpg)
The little boxes on the edge of the front walls are going to prove a challange to light up my plan is to grind out as much of the inner walls leaving some of the plastic there light block it and mount in some little leds, pretty much the same as I did for the scanner on the Pod.

Cheers,

Alec.

starseeker
08-19-2009, 09:48 AM
Alec, why don't you throw out the opaque window boxes and replace them with clear? That way you could open up a slot in the wall they mount on, even insert a bit of extra depth into the wall if you wanted, and simply light them from a single source behind each wall. Save trying to hollow out a kit part or making a small box from thin styrene.

gareee
08-19-2009, 10:33 AM
The etched parts have only been available in the last couple weeks, anybody who has one done already works really fast and doesn't require much sleep

I didn't think I'd seen them mentioned anywhere before the past week or so.

I normally don't but add on kits, but this fs one with decals does look tempting.

I'm kinda surprised the vendor though doesn't have one build up available for advertisement pics.

steve123
08-19-2009, 10:46 AM
Looks terrific!...I love how your sub looks.

Heavy duty kitchen foil will work and all you really need is a thick white glue like Aileen's(it's cheap at the craft stores),..and it dries clear. You could use it instead of crystal kleer.

I can't wait to see her all lit up!
Steve

gareee
08-19-2009, 10:55 AM
To glue kitchen foil down, spray glue also is excellent! Cut to shape, flip it over, give it a good hit of spray glue, and stick it down. No glue dribbles, and no waiting for it to dry either.

Paulbo
08-19-2009, 11:09 AM
That's looking very sharp, Alec. (But then your work always is.)

Garee - I know I really need finished product shots, but right now I'm going balls to the walls just keeping up with packaging / shipping current products and designing new ones. Good timing on your comment through - I've just made arrangements to have my first commissioned buildup done ... though it'll be of a product still under development. (Very hush hush ;) )

miniature sun
08-19-2009, 03:13 PM
Alec, thats looking good so far. For my lighting I'm going a similar route to you, using foil-lined boxes behind each panel, each with a high-intensity LED facing away from the kit part so that the light bounces back and through the holes in the etch.
I may use a piece of tissue across the rear of the panels to diffuse the light.
For the reactor core I'm using two RGB LED's which, when powered, gradually change from red to green to blue (hence RGB).
I'm looking forward to seeing your progress...by the way, my trip away was cancelled due to illness (not me) so I can get on with my build after all.

Iain

AJ-1701
08-20-2009, 08:33 AM
Alec, why don't you throw out the opaque window boxes and replace them with clear? That way you could open up a slot in the wall they mount on, even insert a bit of extra depth into the wall if you wanted, and simply light them from a single source behind each wall. Save trying to hollow out a kit part or making a small box from thin styrene.

Thanks starseeker but I've already ground out most of them but I may take a variation on the theme though :thumbsup:

To glue kitchen foil down, spray glue also is excellent! Cut to shape, flip it over, give it a good hit of spray glue, and stick it down. No glue dribbles, and no waiting for it to dry either.

Great idea :wave: I was wondering about spray adhesive and how it would go. Yet another idea to work on. Cheers :thumbsup:

Iain sorry to hear that your trip was cancelled. Myself I wasn't planning on lining the light boxes with foil as I am after a more softer glow also I'm concerned that to much reflection might was out the decals though they look pretty solid.

Cheers and thanks again for the tips :thumbsup:

Alec.

AJ-1701
08-20-2009, 08:42 AM
Looks terrific!...I love how your sub looks.

Heavy duty kitchen foil will work and all you really need is a thick white glue like Aileen's(it's cheap at the craft stores),..and it dries clear. You could use it instead of crystal kleer.

I can't wait to see her all lit up!
Steve

Thanks Steve. :) I use weldbond mostly haven't tried it on the foil yet


That's looking very sharp, Alec. (But then your work always is.)

:o Thanks mate. :) The camera does help hide the odd fluff up or three :tongue: I am a little curious at you 'hush hush' project though Paul however with all the tips being passed along my curiosity may be curbed just a bit for a while.

Cheers,

Alec.

Tim Nolan
08-20-2009, 03:17 PM
Wheres a good source for those RGB LED's? Sounds cool.

beatlepaul
08-20-2009, 03:42 PM
LOOKING GOOD MY FRIEND!!!:thumbsup:

I also have Paulbo's Beautiful Photo Etch Kit for my Second Flying Sub Build.

I highly recommend "Paragrafix's" work!.Stunning, simply stunning!

Now if I can get my health to cooperate :drunk:,I still need to paint up a set of figures for a buddy of mine!

starseeker
08-21-2009, 11:22 AM
Aileen's glue is great for making paper models, possibly the best. I have my doubts about how long it would keep foil in place. MicroScale not only makes decal setting solutions but a product called Micro Foil Adhesive, which is specifically for gluing foil to styrene. My ultimate project with it was a 1/48 B29 about 20 years ago and all the foil seems permanently attached still. Anywhere that sells MicroSol and MicroSet will have it.

AJ-1701
08-23-2009, 07:38 AM
I am using two of the red, blue, green, orange and purple leds for my reactor wall one in opposite diagonal corners in the light box. So what I've done so far is paint the girders steel I'm still undecided about having the ladder up or down though... :confused: My main goal achieved this week end was to finish the left hand wall with the decals and lighting, well almost finished, I just have to put a coat of flat over it to seal off, as I sprayed it with microscale gloss to help position the decals. The decals from Pauls kit that JT Graphics did are near perfect for fitting on the raised detail and back light beautifully. I did as Paul recommended by filling in all the spaces with Microscales clear then left the overnite to dry fully then gently applied some clear flat to fog them down. So here is the result... Sorry for the pics being a bit on the blurred side.:o

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/Decalleftwall1.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/Decalleftwall3.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/Decalwall2.jpg

I tried the lights in just a white box but they were a bit soft so I stuck in some foil as Iian suggested. The result is much better (if a wee bit bright). The big light box has three 5mm leds coming through from the underneath and the little side console has 3 x 3mm leds coming through from the back. For that little number I ground out as much of the inside down to the brass as possable (I wasn't going to light these to begin with). To help with any light leaks I ran some filler around it then painted a black coat before the a grey and then metalic grey as a final coat then I filed in the light holes on the pe with the microscale clear from the front. I chose not to do the flat on it as I wanted the lights here a bit brighter.

Cheers,

Alec.

miniature sun
08-23-2009, 07:49 AM
Looking tremendous Alec!
I've not reached that stage yet but possibly backing the control panels with a piece of that frosted-type of drawing paper might help diffuse the brightness slightly.

Iain

AJ-1701
08-23-2009, 08:14 AM
Looking tremendous Alec!
I've not reached that stage yet but possibly backing the control panels with a piece of that frosted-type of drawing paper might help diffuse the brightness slightly.

Iain

Thanks mate. :)

Yeah I did think of similar things but as I have done the first one, I am going to try to keep the rest the same intensity. One thing I did find though was that one led for me was not enough light to catch all the panels which is why I ended up with three...

Cheers,

Alec.

Paulbo
08-23-2009, 10:42 AM
That looks FANTASTIC, Alec!

You're doing great work.

Sonett
08-23-2009, 11:51 AM
awesome build! Looks like the actual set pieces. Thanks for posting these pics!

starseeker
08-23-2009, 01:40 PM
On all my builds, I use a 6V source and wire a 5K to 10K ohm variable resistor to each led (don't ask me why that spec as none of the resistor calculators give anything remotely close to that as a result - it just works). They let me adjust the leds to any brightness I want and since practically no two leds match each other in brightness, allows me to match brightness levels when I need to, like the pairs of spots on the bottom of the Seaview (which contains about a dozen variable pots total) or front of the FS or Chariot. If you buy them in bulk via EBay, they're not not a cheap as leds (which are practically free there), but they are very reasonable still.

Tonyray
08-23-2009, 02:41 PM
Thanks for the pictures your sub looks great :thumbsup: I ordered my moebius flying sub last Friday and the Photoetch Combo Pack today also vinyl floor stickers from TSDS. I'm going to get the Voodoofx lighting kit. I only hope I can do as good a job as you did. I found some foil tape at walmart it's $7.50 a roll kind of high but it will last a long time so guess it's ok.

AJ-1701
08-24-2009, 06:21 AM
That looks FANTASTIC, Alec!

You're doing great work.

Thanks Paul. :)

awesome build! Looks like the actual set pieces. Thanks for posting these pics!

:o Thanks Sonnet :)

Thanks for the pictures your sub looks great :thumbsup: I ordered my moebius flying sub last Friday and the Photoetch Combo Pack today also vinyl floor stickers from TSDS. I'm going to get the Voodoofx lighting kit. I only hope I can do as good a job as you did. I found some foil tape at walmart it's $7.50 a roll kind of high but it will last a long time so guess it's ok.

Good luck with it all when it turns up Tonyray.:thumbsup: No luck with the foil tape for me but necessities the mother of invention... I got a roll of thin but wide double sided carpet tape, some silver foil wrapping paper and h/duty kitchen alfoil which I'm going to combine to make my own :)

Cheers,

Alec.

AJ-1701
08-24-2009, 06:23 AM
On all my builds, I use a 6V source and wire a 5K to 10K ohm variable resistor to each led (don't ask me why that spec as none of the resistor calculators give anything remotely close to that as a result - it just works). They let me adjust the leds to any brightness I want and since practically no two leds match each other in brightness, allows me to match brightness levels when I need to, like the pairs of spots on the bottom of the Seaview (which contains about a dozen variable pots total) or front of the FS or Chariot. If you buy them in bulk via EBay, they're not not a cheap as leds (which are practically free there), but they are very reasonable still.

Thanks for the advice starseeker :thumbsup: I hadn't thought of things like that but I may start to in the future.

Cheers,

Alec.

WEAPON X
08-27-2009, 05:29 PM
I am using two of the red, blue, green, orange and purple leds for my reactor wall one in opposite diagonal corners in the light box. So what I've done so far is paint the girders steel I'm still undecided about having the ladder up or down though... :confused: My main goal achieved this week end was to finish the left hand wall with the decals and lighting, well almost finished, I just have to put a coat of flat over it to seal off, as I sprayed it with microscale gloss to help position the decals. The decals from Pauls kit that JT Graphics did are near perfect for fitting on the raised detail and back light beautifully. I did as Paul recommended by filling in all the spaces with Microscales clear then left the overnite to dry fully then gently applied some clear flat to fog them down. So here is the result... Sorry for the pics being a bit on the blurred side.:o

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/Decalleftwall1.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/Decalleftwall3.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/Decalwall2.jpg

I tried the lights in just a white box but they were a bit soft so I stuck in some foil as Iian suggested. The result is much better (if a wee bit bright). The big light box has three 5mm leds coming through from the underneath and the little side console has 3 x 3mm leds coming through from the back. For that little number I ground out as much of the inside down to the brass as possable (I wasn't going to light these to begin with). To help with any light leaks I ran some filler around it then painted a black coat before the a grey and then metalic grey as a final coat then I filed in the light holes on the pe with the microscale clear from the front. I chose not to do the flat on it as I wanted the lights here a bit brighter.

Cheers,

Alec.

Awesome detailing build! :thumbsup:

AJ-1701
08-30-2009, 07:38 AM
LOOKING GOOD MY FRIEND!!!:thumbsup:

I also have Paulbo's Beautiful Photo Etch Kit for my Second Flying Sub Build.

I highly recommend "Paragrafix's" work!.Stunning, simply stunning!

Now if I can get my health to cooperate :drunk:,I still need to paint up a set of figures for a buddy of mine!

Thanks Beatlepaul :) Hope you get back up n running soon :thumbsup: And yep you are right it is top notch gear

Awesome detailing build! :thumbsup:

Thanks WEAPON X :)

AJ-1701
08-30-2009, 08:16 AM
Well, whats been done in a week or so...

Tonite I finished off all the wall sections save some black out and light blocking touch ups. So save for the crew and forward console the interior is completed. I went back and addressed where I forgot to include the light strip around the outer edge of the floor hatch. I also touched up the dark grey wall sections with a soft drybrush of silver as well as doing the same on girders, ladder and rear hatch This helped lighten them just right as the origional colour "steel" from Gunze was a tad to dark... Oh I also decided to use the ladder clip but I won't glue the ladder that way I can have it both ways

I also added in the extra mics from the pe set with some thin copper wire I coiled around a pin for the cord. Also had to do some minor surgery to the wall in the bunk where the fire extinquisher went due to the pillow I added :o
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/Picture031e.jpg
I tried putting in the little toggle switches with the extra thin plastruct that paul sent with the kit but... :rolleyes: well lets just say I opted not to continue down that road :drunk: Maybe with a new set of tweezers???

I think I managed to get the right sort of illuination on most of the panels for the scale, though the reactor wall is maybe a bit strong?? I resorted to fo's for the two small consoles under the reactor wall they just seemed a better choice than two seperate little light boxes
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/Picture033e.jpg
This a quick video test for the reactor wall just befor it was permenantly fixed. As I noted in an earlier post I used to multi coloured leds. I was trying to capture the look I remember from the show. I reckon I did pretty good too even with the leds being more vibrant than the old incandesants they proberbly used on set.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/th_Picture030.jpg
After checking how the floor looks with light behind I've gone back to the drawing board for lighting under the floor. I think I'll be making a trip to Jcar for some wide angle flat/square leds. I'm not sure if the raised section of floor had strips of light under it but I decided that from a occupational health & saftey aspect that they should be.:p
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/Picture034e.jpg

The next stage will be the figures from Drew @ Crowsnest Miniatures and then the forward console. which will be right after I have fixed those light leacks!!!! (refer last pic)

Cheers,

Alec.

AJ-1701
08-30-2009, 08:25 AM
:eek: Forgot to mention that the engineering on this kit is outstanding All the walls and girders practically fell together and it was such a snug fit I nearly forgot the glue!! :freak:

Can't say enough "good things":woohoo: about all the team at Moebius and the kits they do for us.:thumbsup:

Cheers,

Alec.

Tonyray
09-20-2009, 06:08 PM
Been working on my flying sub ordered the lighting kit and need to do a little more work.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j235/fallonguy/DSC02034.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j235/fallonguy/DSC02035.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j235/fallonguy/DSC02039.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j235/fallonguy/DSC02038.jpg

WEAPON X
09-21-2009, 01:59 AM
Tremendously Awesome detailing. The lighting looks like the sage set! :wave:

AJ-1701
09-23-2009, 07:05 AM
Thanks WEAPON X :)

Nice job you've done there Tonyray that floor looks great!! the gloss level is magic. :thumbsup:

Yeah the lighting did come out pretty damn good IMHO anyway. I had issues with the under floor lighting and shadow from the hatch with the leds I planned to use so I ordered some EL sheet to go there instead. Cause I got so frustrated with trying to get the floor lighting right I went to work on Drews great little figures instead.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/th_Picture035e.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/?action=view&current=Picture035e.jpg) http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/th_Picture037e.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/?action=view&current=Picture037e.jpg)
Now don't take these as finished I'll have to redo the uniforms as the kahki I chose was the wrong shade:( and as for Cranes left eye!!:drunk: The reason for putting the crewman farther back was because his right hand was fairly badly mismoulded (sorry Drew) so with a bit of putty and some discrete placement he turned up ok and as well as it gives the thing a better sense of dynamics. The best thing about them is the bit of serendipity with Cranes & Nelsons flying jackets. I grabbed the wrong brown when I did Nelsons which I did notice till after the ink wash was applied but I liked the finished contrast.
I also decided to continue the seat belts to the chairs... Though I didn't click that they were meant to go through the hand hold bits... :freak: and you can't really see it in the above pic but the crewmans shoes I did as white because from memory I think they wore dunlop volley style shoes. other than that I've been off the boil a bit so not a lots been done.

Thanks again for looking :)

Alec.

hedorah59
09-23-2009, 11:20 AM
Now don't take these as finished I'll have to redo the uniforms as the kahki I chose was the wrong shade:(

It does look a bit green, kind of like doctors smocks - Crane and Nelson, MDs :lol: All kidding aside I think you've done a great job on the figures (along with the rest of your build). I'm looking forward to seeing it finished!

drewid142
09-23-2009, 11:35 AM
NICE WORK! Thanks for posting pics!

Drew

roadrner
09-23-2009, 10:50 PM
Great looking and thanks for the pix ! :thumbsup::thumbsup: rr

Poseidon
09-24-2009, 10:56 AM
You've done an amazing job! Your modeling skills, lighting skills and photography are superb!! Thanks for sharing. Can't wait to see more.

Paulbo
09-24-2009, 07:37 PM
Alec (& Drew),

The figures look fantastic. I'm looking forward to seeing the final color for the slacks.

Cheers,
Paul

AJ-1701
09-25-2009, 10:01 AM
Thanks guys.

Apart from some touch ups I've pretty much complete the hull colour and stripping on the bottom hull and attached an alternative (sorry Frank)to the rather cool stand that came with the kit. I did this as I will be running my power through a scenic base rather than in the sub. So with the arrival of the el sheet I now have finished the inside cabin...:woohoo: well except for a couple of lighte leaks... Oh but I have redressed Nelson and Crane :tongue: I'm not fully convinced on el sheet as a regular lighting alternative however in this case it was pretty much the best alternative. Just a note about the pic, without the flash, my camera must be more sensative for certain light spectums because the floor is not that blue???
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/th_Picture142e.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/?action=view&current=Picture142e.jpg)http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/th_Picture138e.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/?action=view&current=Picture138e.jpg)
The forward console was a bit tricky to light up and as I wasn't planning on having the tv monitor with an image I went with mounting 1 x 3mm bright white led under each of the partition wall pointing towards each other. It's hard to see the effect in the pics but it came out pretty good.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/th_Picture139e.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/?action=view&current=Picture139e.jpg)

Cheers,

Alec. :wave:

Tonyray
09-25-2009, 10:38 AM
You sub look great you did a really good job in it.:thumbsup: I did the same thing with the front panel I hot glued 2 led under the panel one behind each radar screen facing toward each other then covered it all with foil tape. The picture doesn't look as good as it does in person.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j235/fallonguy/DSC02056.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j235/fallonguy/DSC02057.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j235/fallonguy/DSC02055.jpg

What el sheet did you get it looks really good I tried leds but can't get them to look right

AJ-1701
09-25-2009, 09:05 PM
Thanks Tonyray :)

Yeah I think using the two opposed leds works best. :thumbsup: The reason I placed wine where I di was to get the 6 lights at each end of the console to have some illumination too. I know what you mean about using leds under the floor. I reckon they'd do the job well but it's the raised hatch piece which just gets in the way and makes an unrealistic shadow effect. :(

I picked up the sheet from a site called glow hut... http://glowhut.com/, god I love google ;) I got the A6 sheet and the 9v battery adaptor/invertor. Price wise I found them pretty good and they delivered pretty much to the time they said should happen for an OS delivery. All I did to install it was to snip off the battery cap and connect the leads to my insource wire then mark where the glue pins were on the floor and used a hole punch so they'd fit over the lugs when I glued the cabin assembly to the hull and there you go :thumbsup:

Cheers,

Alec.

Tonyray
09-25-2009, 09:41 PM
OK Thanks I just ordered it.:thumbsup:

miniature sun
09-26-2009, 05:30 AM
Thanks for that link Alec, I've been struggling with my LED's under the floor and couldn't find a source of EL here in the UK at a decent price. As soon as it arrives it'll be full steam ahead...:thumbsup:

AJ-1701
09-27-2009, 08:32 AM
Your welcome fellas :)

Can't wait to see the outcomes on both builds. :thumbsup:

Cheers,

Alec.

AJ-1701
09-28-2009, 09:24 AM
So in between the various coats of primer/paints for the hull I started work on the engine/jet lighting. I don't have any dvds of VTTBOTS nor can I remember seeing any rear shots of the FS1 in flight so I went for a bit of modelers license... First and obviously was the plastic with Lou's little vinyl fans on them which I sanded the back side with a 600 grit wet n dry, hand brushed some red paint, sanding that off when it was dry so as to leave just a hint of red on the plastic. I then brushed on two coats of Tamiya clear flat to both sides. I then lined the tubes with foil leaving the back section clean of foil and drilled a hole for my 5mm orange painted led to go into. I went for a painted led becase I didn't want a overly bright or to red of an orange. Thats when I went all arty...(insert modelers license here)... I remembered a scene from Top Gun showing the jet engines of the tomcats so I pulled out the dvd and did a screen grab... Cause thats the look I wanted...:rolleyes:
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/th_PDVD_001.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/?action=view&current=PDVD_001.jpg)

I tried a couple of differant ways with paint n ink to try and get that look but they just came out crappy so I played with some fo's, a blue led, the painted orange led and some scrap card. and nailed the look I wanted. So reaching for the ole trusty pinvice I drilled about 2 dozen tiny holes around the larger hole in the engine mount tubes poked in the fibre optics after mushrooming the ends, heat shrunk a 3mm blue led to the bunch then glued in the 5mm orange led and connected the battery for a test. I realized that the blue led was way to bright so I brushed a coat of flat white over the fo's to fog down the brightness and here is the result. Apologies for the shaky pic...I did it on video so you get the idea of how the orange n blue seem to shift as the veiwing angle changes when you look at the engine.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg27/AJ-1701/Flying%20sub%20build/th_Picture.jpg

I'll try to remeber some wip shots of how it went together when I work on the other engine...:o

Cheers,

Alec :wave:

Tonyray
09-28-2009, 08:02 PM
I got the EL sheet today WOW I ordered on Friday about 6:00 PM and I get it on Monday you can't beat that for fast shipping I put it on the floor and it looks great thanks for the link AJ. Here is some pictures.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j235/fallonguy/DSC02069.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j235/fallonguy/DSC02073.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j235/fallonguy/DSC02067.jpg
Still working on the stand I will put the battery and a switch under it and run the wires up.