team epic (aka trinity) has just released the duo 2 motor and there 40c 5000 pack...


they are also looking for new blood to sponsor

in order to showcase there product they need guys in the trenches on the local and national scene to win with there products!


i promise not to bash other companies products on this thread..
let's keep it clean and do not be affraid to ask a silly question..

there are a few simple rules

1) yes the duo 2 is the best brushless motor
2)yup thats right the 40c 5000 IP pack is the best lipo also

so we can now eliminate all the "what is best" threads on hobby talk..i just cleared it all up for you!

***sponsorship requests***

please send all requests to bbruce@teamtrinity.com


also check out there web site http://www.teamtrinity.com/

all electric questions will be handled by billy bruce he is available m-f 9am to 6pm est.....the guy eats sleeps and lives oval racing!!! he can tell you roll out and motor temps and the inner workings of the all new Ibalance charger with built in power supply!

look for deals up to 65% off from time to time on the web site as well!

the new single cell is a bad mamma jamma soon to be released!

after running the duo 2 i can tell you it needs to be geared about .30 less than a duo when used at full wick!

i can also tell you the 40c pack runs like an animal on the track

Kat Is 100% Right The Duo 2's Are Super Fast

I Cant Talk About The 5000 Packs Because I Dont Run 17.5 2s Lipo

But The 3200 30c+ Epic Packs Are Freaking Awsome....

Were stuck running "N" stuff out west ,bummer..and "O" and "TP" for cells..

I hope the duo2 is as good as the two 17.5 pulse motors I bought.

I just purchased a DUO2 13.5, I will be running it in 13.5 cot 1 cell paved oval with an LRP SXX. What would you recommend for timing on the motor and what setting on the ESC.

Ron, stay away from profile #8 on the spx its too much, go with I believe profile 6 is what Billy told Rick to run on his 21.5. Ron, give Billy a call to make sure :thumbsup:

http://www.teamepiconline.com/teamepic/support.asp

Dog, thanks for the info, I just emailed BB.

team epic got some great stuff coming out for sure!!!

So what can Trinity/Epic do for those of us that still have some of the older pulse motors that do not and have never worked?

-E

Br. Bruce I sent you an e-mail. Thanks Jason H.

So what can Trinity/Epic do for those of us that still have some of the older pulse motors that do not and have never worked?

-E

I sent two back in Jan. and haven't heard anything since. I wish they would send theme back I could use A new boat anchor.

So what can Trinity/Epic do for those of us that still have some of the older pulse motors that do not and have never worked?

-E
No need to ask why these aren't called Pulse 2's :dude:

Disclaimer: I do have a Duo1 10.5 that I really like, so I'll probably be willing to give the Duo2 a shot.

Lol............................

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Wow Jimmy, tell us how you really feel bro lol


I have had the same duo in my car for 6 months and it still runs about like it did when I got it. I have yet to try the duo 2. I hear they like less gear.

I will be picking one up to try though.

eric email billy bruce his email is posted above...chad and billy will help you out....

the one thing epic is working on to improve is cystomer service...

BUT AS WITH NOVAK THERE POLICY FOR BURNED UP MOTORS IS THE SAME

every single duo 2 is dynoed and the label put on the box

this does two things

1) once the motor is dynoed it is of good working order when placed in the box with a copy of the label to back it up!

2)no shady motors leave the factory..if a motor dynos 4000 rpm higher than the other 2000 they just tested well it is sent to me for club racing...this way the consumer does not have to be called a cheater for having a shady motor....

i honestly believe this is the best way to make sure each motor is working when it leaves epic and it would weed out any shady motor...win win for us!

again with todays banzai esc's it only takes 40 sec to burn up a great motor of any brand...

gear down .30 to start with the duo 2 motors...

ex: i was using a 2.95 roll out at the local track
with the duo 2 i'm at 2.65 and going faster!

eric email billy bruce his email is posted above...chad and billy will help you out....

the one thing epic is working on to improve is cystomer service...

BUT AS WITH NOVAK THERE POLICY FOR BURNED UP MOTORS IS THE SAME

every single duo 2 is dynoed and the label put on the box

this does two things

1) once the motor is dynoed it is of good working order when placed in the box with a copy of the label to back it up!

2)no shady motors leave the factory..if a motor dynos 4000 rpm higher than the other 2000 they just tested well it is sent to me for club racing...this way the consumer does not have to be called a cheater for having a shady motor....

i honestly believe this is the best way to make sure each motor is working when it leaves epic and it would weed out any shady motor...win win for us!

again with todays banzai esc's it only takes 40 sec to burn up a great motor of any brand...

gear down .30 to start with the duo 2 motors...

ex: i was using a 2.95 roll out at the local track
with the duo 2 i'm at 2.65 and going faster!

The same dyno's that dyno'ed all those brushed stock motors where it appeared the numbers were drawn out of a hat? :)

Improving customer service is always welcomed, and I think every manufactuer should bench test a motor before it goes out the door. :thumbsup:

I just don't look forward to all the guys who come into the shop and want to fondle all of our motors so they can pick out the one with the good numbers! :rolleyes:

i think what they are trying to accomplish is to keep all the motors so close that even if someone want to pick through all the motors they are going to be wasting there time because they will all be so close....

The same dyno's that dyno'ed all those brushed stock motors where it appeared the numbers were drawn out of a hat? :)


Well, theres alot less variables with a brushless motor, no brushes or springs to seat. It's removed from the box, dyno'ed then returned to the box with the dyno sticker attached to the box.

I have been @ team epic and you can hear the dyno at the front desk, its really there and being used to check the motors guys ........ Billy is the one doing the dynoing....... he told me they are all very close.

I've been very happy with my Duo and now my Duo2 ........... they run great

being the crazy honest guy i am...

i saw a ton of "tuned" trinity stock motors with labels on them...brushes looked new and comms were square...

trinity is dead epic is here now....big E is trying to be better....outside of the pulse (bomb) the 40c lipo pack and the duo and duo 2 are fantastic! and the rumor of a phat pulse 2 with a 1400 plus rotor inside sounds real interesting...all i can say for now!

eric email billy bruce his email is posted above...chad and billy will help you out....

the one thing epic is working on to improve is cystomer service...

BUT AS WITH NOVAK THERE POLICY FOR BURNED UP MOTORS IS THE SAME

every single duo 2 is dynoed and the label put on the box

this does two things

1) once the motor is dynoed it is of good working order when placed in the box with a copy of the label to back it up!

2)no shady motors leave the factory..if a motor dynos 4000 rpm higher than the other 2000 they just tested well it is sent to me for club racing...this way the consumer does not have to be called a cheater for having a shady motor....

i honestly believe this is the best way to make sure each motor is working when it leaves epic and it would weed out any shady motor...win win for us!

again with todays banzai esc's it only takes 40 sec to burn up a great motor of any brand...

gear down .30 to start with the duo 2 motors...

ex: i was using a 2.95 roll out at the local track
with the duo 2 i'm at 2.65 and going faster!

Thanks Kat, I will try that. I do tend to disagree about the past history of Trinity's customer service, and I have known those who were on the inside and confirm how poor it really was. As far as sending out bad or shady motors. I think that the majority of Pulse motors were sent out and were not designed/built correctly. I blew up the same motor 3 time at the birds. Dieter repaired it everytime, but it was unreliable. I look forward to seeing what the new Trinity/EPIC is about.

-E

i agree eric...if you were close to the ocean i could give you some advice on what to do with a pulse...some did have good luck with them though.....

Team Epic Came Out On Top Today @ Mtr The Three Team Guys Finished 1st, 2nd And 3rd....

I Personally Was Running The Team Epic 3200 30c+ Lipo With The New Duo2 21.5 Motor And They Are Ballistic Combination.......

Anyone Who May Be Hesitant To Buy One Of The New Duo2's Because Of Things In The Past, Dont Be These Motors Are The First Motor In 21.5 To Actually Compete With The Novak And It Does More Than Compete It Dominates...

Spend The Money Go Fast And Be Happy...

i think what they are trying to accomplish is to keep all the motors so close that even if someone want to pick through all the motors they are going to be wasting there time because they will all be so close....

I think someone needs to pick through your motor in tech...lol

i think what they are trying to accomplish is to keep all the motors so close that even if someone want to pick through all the motors they are going to be wasting there time because they will all be so close....

This is very true. I have been dynoing all the OEM motors I get since Dec and they are all very close so far...even from batch to batch they dont vary a lot. Seems the manufacture for the DUO's is doing a fantastic job thus far.

EA

thanks eric!!!! i can howl at the moon and noone will believe me! but you are a credible source!

epic has added more than a few drivers to there stable for oval racing!!

keep the applications coming! we need drivers in many states to represent!

thanks bill

Thanks for the good word Bill, I appriciate the help.

Nick

all you have to do now is win some races! no pressure! ahahhaha

you mean dont choke.....dont you haha

Kat do you know if epic is working on a 1cell

Thanks Tom

http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/teamepic1cell-400x272.jpg

Already in the works Tats............

Thanks Bud

kat dont think wins are gonna be a problem lol

I just purchased a DUO2 13.5, I will be running it in 13.5 cot 1 cell paved oval with an LRP SXX. What would you recommend for timing on the motor and what setting on the ESC.

Ron, this demo is for the SPX but you'll get the idea ............http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjjDHDQCYkQ&feature=related

EA, you just re-affirmed the fact of how close the motors are ........ Billy Bruce has said the same thing ....... he has been dynoing the Duo2's @ Epic/Trinity , they are all very,very close when run on the dyno for QA and to get their number for the box , there isint a significant difference in any of them..........which is cool :thumbsup:

Thank Dog, I notice the same thing when I set my SXX up per Billy.

Good to hear they're all pretty close...it'll make the guys behind the counter happy, and hopefully the racers happy as well.

Can someone tell me what the actual timing numbers are on the Duo min. and max.?

Can someone tell me what the actual timing numbers are on the Duo min. and max.?

http://www.teamepiconline.com/shop/item_new.asp?item=TEP1002

http://www.teamepiconline.com/shop/item_new.asp?item=TEP1002

How about for the original Duo?

That was my question not the Duo 2

some guys feel it's

0 10 20

i say 10 20 30

Can someone tell me what the actual timing numbers are on the Duo min. and max.?

Sorry bout that, Like Kat said the marks on the motor are 0 - 10 - 20 on the endbell, at 0 degrees there is actually 10 degrees built in ....... so when @ 0 its really 10, 10 is 20 degrees and 20 is 30 degrees of timing.

I'm nost sure if thats the case with the Duo2 ..... I'll try and find out for ya ;)


Rich Boehmler

I look forward in representing Team Epic. As soon as I get my hands on the motors and batts I will post some feedback.

Ritchie Mac

ok
the big line in the middle is the ZERO each line on either side is about 8degrees
max timing is approximatley 30 degrees.
if you are currently running a duo or novak .....you MUST gear down or lower your rollout.
I normally run about a 3.00 rollout for strickland and now must run a 2.50
I run my motors at max timing and temp around 165. I increased rollout but gained nothing but heat.

they have more power, rpm, and torque

SPX USERS be EXTREMELY carefull running on profile 7 or 8 to much excessive timing can and will cause meltdowns.

Tekin users same for you.... increase timing and boost slowly to monitor heat.

the duo has 10, 20, 30 aproximatly

Thanks
Billy B
Epic Oval Team Manager

Thanks, that helps a lot.

ok we are very sorry about the pulse thing

we are in the beginning of getting the new totally resigned motor

we hope to have replacements in the next 60 days

if you have a defective pulse send it in to warrantee and we will replace it, when they become available.

the spec motors are the only ones(10.5-21.5) that had issues not the mods.

Cant beat that deal

Is the aprroach on the duo2, with droping the gear still hold true for 1 cell?

ok we are very sorry about the pulse thing

we are in the beginning of getting the new totally resigned motor

we hope to have replacements in the next 60 days

if you have a defective pulse send it in to warrantee and we will replace it, when they become available.

the spec motors are the only ones(10.5-21.5) that had issues not the mods.

cant ask for much better than that! good job over there Billy.

he only says what i tell him to! ahahahhaha

the company that makes the duo and is not the same as the company that makes the pulse motors...

so company A will not take company B's motors defects and send a new one as a replacement....guys who have pulse motors need company B to hurry up with the redsign so you guys can get a replacement motor...and i hear the pulse2 will be phat!