So here's the next question. Will "team" guys be allowed to run the "legal" packs prior to them being available to the rest of us?

I have to say you guys are really providing fuel for all the doubters on here. I know I'm feeling kind of dumb at the moment for sticking up for this whole TOUR deal.
well im a newbie just starting this year with pancar.... and....wow...how confusing!!

well im a newbie just starting this year with pancar.... and....wow...how confusing!!


its really not to bad compared to the past. you just have to get to the track and find out what your buddies race. you will be fine

does anyone know of anything that was "perfect" the 1st year?

steve i hope you and your dad are doing better and i would take a break from the boards for awhile...let someone like allan deal and field questions for the tour series until your life takes a better path...i told ya you were crazy.....he he

Actually... Van Halen's debute album was. :thumbsup:

GO TOUR!!!!!

Bill

well im a newbie just starting this year with pancar.... and....wow...how confusing!!

Speaking as one who was a 'newbie" 5 years ago... that's the way all newbie's are until you get a year or two under your belt. You'll be alright.

...If I had all of the money back that I spent on the wrong stuff... :freak:

Bill

I have a question regarding the World GT Tires. The rules state the tire must have a "purple ring" in the center. Does this mean only BSR and CRC World GT Tires will be allowed? What about Jaco and T.M.? I believe the Jaco tires are solid black and the T.M. tires have a gray or white ring in the center.

Please let me know.

Josh

• World GT Tires were selected as the spec tire for this class for several reasons:
o They are readily available due to their wide acceptance in the on-road racing community and have proven to be a very well regulated, cost effective, solution.
o These tires are NOT available to team drivers through sponsorships. All sales of these tires go through hobby shops.
o All 4 tires are all made of the same, very durable compound and are priced below standard tires.
o World GT Tires are to meet the following specifications:
• Tire and wheel must meet 10th scale specifications
• Tire compound to be Japanese R4 compound, 38 shore
• Tire must have an identifier ring of purple colored foam in the center of the tire


o There is no “approval process” for World GT tires. Any tire meeting the above criteria will be considered legal.

• World GT Tires were selected as the spec tire for this class for several reasons:
o They are readily available due to their wide acceptance in the on-road racing community and have proven to be a very well regulated, cost effective, solution.
o These tires are NOT available to team drivers through sponsorships. All sales of these tires go through hobby shops.
o All 4 tires are all made of the same, very durable compound and are priced below standard tires.
o World GT Tires are to meet the following specifications:
• Tire and wheel must meet 10th scale specifications
• Tire compound to be Japanese R4 compound, 38 shore
• Tire must have an identifier ring of purple colored foam in the center of the tire


o There is no “approval process” for World GT tires. Any tire meeting the above criteria will be considered legal.

The Jaco does not have a purple ring on it. The wheel is a Carbon fiber print and can not be bought other than on WGT Tires. Also if you try to dismount the tire and use a different foam the carbon fiber paint comes right off.

EA

are the Fantom motor legal for the tour?? I seen the trinity duo are, but did not see the fantom's since they are pretty much the same, I did not know if they classified them two together or not. its not a big deal, just want to make sure......

thanks
Jon

are the Fantom motor legal for the tour?? I seen the trinity duo are, but did not see the fantom's since they are pretty much the same, I did not know if they classified them two together or not. its not a big deal, just want to make sure......

thanks
Jon

read back Steve answered. Trinity Motor covers any labeled motor such as the Fantom.

HOW TOO: would like to download a copy.........Thanks, George Mease

read back Steve answered. Trinity Motor covers any labeled motor such as the Fantom.
K thank you, I miss it.....

So what is the approved BSR tire for 17.5 Nastruck????

Team Purples????

What bodies are approved??? I have and old F150 body I painted but yet to mount. No idea on the maker.

So what is the approved BSR tire for 17.5 Nastruck????

Team Purples????

What bodies are approved??? I have and old F150 body I painted but yet to mount. No idea on the maker.

Rules say World GT tires... this is BSR, CRC, Jaco.

Body is NASTRUCK so I would think the F150 body would work. They didn't specify body type or manufacturer.

quote from the rules "It features any 10th scale pan car with a NASTRUCK body, World GT spec tire, 17.5 motor with a single cell 25C Li-Po battery."

Hope this helps.
Bill

Thanks Bill, Bone spec, all the Sportsman rules are listed on the first post.

hi on the 17.5 1 cell lipo class. why dont allow spec tires run in this class to . it haerd to get the other tire.you would have more guys run the class with spec tires

hi on the 17.5 1 cell lipo class. why dont allow spec tires run in this class to . it haerd to get the other tire.you would have more guys run the class with spec tires

they are F1004-SPEC rears ans F1001-SPEC fronts (BSR)

So what is the approved BSR tire for 17.5 Nastruck????

Team Purples????

What bodies are approved??? I have and old F150 body I painted but yet to mount. No idea on the maker.

FOR REARS BSR F1004- SPEC GREEN, FOR REAR F1001-SPEC BLUE:thumbsup:

Rules say World GT tires... this is BSR, CRC, Jaco.

Body is NASTRUCK so I would think the F150 body would work. They didn't specify body type or manufacturer.

quote from the rules "It features any 10th scale pan car with a NASTRUCK body, World GT spec tire, 17.5 motor with a single cell 25C Li-Po battery."

Hope this helps.
Bill

YEP, WHAT HE SAID..LOL

are they spec tires or world gt tires

i vote for spec tirs for the 17.5 class

I believe spec tires and world gt tires are not the same, all 4 tires are the same compound IE Jaco lilac

no they are not the same compounds . for jaco or bsr

Basically, our local racers must spend atleast $100 before even getting started to race.

I know of a few who are thinking of quiting.

The Jaco World GT tires (lilac) and the BSR World GT tires (team purple) are the same compound. The Jaco's have a different color wheel(carbon fiber look), and the BSR's have a stripe in the tire(different color than the BSR SPEC tire).

It is worth the investment to change over. These compounds last soooo much longer it's crazy. If you wear .010"=.020" off in a FULL RACE DAY, that is all you will see. The SPEC compounds (green, blue, silver) could wear this much in 1 race. Also, pricing is similar to the SPEC tires, not the regular race tires.

Wow...how could you guys not get this.You're making a simple tires rules way too hard on yourselves.

It's World GT Spec...not just "Spec".

Four manufacturers make them...all the same compound & shore.A couple do not have a purple ring...but they are the same as the ones who do.

ALL FOUR TIRES MUST BE FROM THE SAME MANUFACTURER!
(But there is four manufacturers to choose from)

Inferno's info on the previous page is wrong for National Tour rules...and that just confused everyone.

• World GT Tires were selected as the spec tire for this class for several reasons:
o They are readily available due to their wide acceptance in the on-road racing community and have proven to be a very well regulated, cost effective, solution.
o These tires are NOT available to team drivers through sponsorships. All sales of these tires go through hobby shops.
o All 4 tires are all made of the same, very durable compound and are priced below standard tires.
o World GT Tires are to meet the following specifications:
• Tire and wheel must meet 10th scale specifications
• Tire compound to be Japanese R4 compound, 38 shore
• Tire must have an identifier ring of purple colored foam in the center of the tire
(All manufacturers do not use the purple ring)


o There is no “approval process” for World GT tires. Any tire meeting the above criteria will be considered legal.


*(All manufacturers do not use the purple ring)

Wow...how could you guys not get this.You're making a simple tires rules way too hard on yourselves.

It's World GT Spec...not just "Spec".

Four manufacturers make them...all the same compound & shore.A couple do not have a purple ring...but they are the same as the ones who do.

ALL FOUR TIRES MUST BE FROM THE SAME MANUFACTURER!
(But there is four manufacturers to choose from)

Inferno's info on the previous page is wrong for National Tour rules...and that just confused everyone.
im anewbie to all this and am just stating what i hear, are all these people new that are asking questions??? i just listed the tires i have fronts i have bsr f1001-spec and rears f1004-spec, those are the ones im useing, they have a yellow stripe around them

No problem inferno...but I'd maybe ask before assuming it true.

The spec tires you have are usually used in the Legends class and are much different that World GT.

The rules are new to all of us...so no big deal.I would just be careful throwing out answers that are not right because it only adds to the confusion and might scare away new racers.

You're cool with me inferno:thumbsup:..and you'll get this stuff all down:cool:

no they are not the same compounds . for jaco or bsr

WRONG!!!!!!

as Kevin said the world gt tire and a spec tire(used in the spec class) are NOT the same! but all 4 tires are the same compound and same manufacturer

No problem inferno...but I'd maybe ask before assuming it true.

The spec tires you have are usually used in the Legends class and are much different that World GT.

The rules are new to all of us...so no big deal.I would just be careful throwing out answers that are not right because it only adds to the confusion and might scare away new racers.

You're cool with me inferno:thumbsup:..and you'll get this stuff all down:cool:
so i cant run the tires i listed in nastruck 17.5 ????

If your track or event is using TOUR rules... no

well, errrrrr!!!! so exactley what tires do i need to run at the snowbirds??? nastruck 17.5 single cell???????:confused: somtin in this box has to work...lol

dont need a name...lol...need a part number, mike

I run for Tony at T.M....so here's my answer.

#5400WGT Front Wheels and Tires
#5401WGT Rear Wheels & Tires

http://www.tm-rc-racingcomponents.com/index.htm

You can buy them at the above web address with a credit card

Lefthander....

Fronts BSRF1033GT
Rears BSRF1034GT

They are listed as touring car tires

Well inferno looks like you got some good tires to run a Legend car...I guess you should have bought mine back in the summer:devil:

ok, thanks, guys

Well inferno looks like you got some good tires to run a Legend car...I guess you should have bought mine back in the summer:devil:
lol.... mr casey said these were the ones i needed for the nastruck class, i do have a legend, but have plenty of tires.

At this time BSR and CRC are the only companys putting the purple ring in their World GT Tire. I understand that TM is looking into doing the same. For TOUR events the rule is World GT Tires with the proper foam with a purple ring. These tires are less expensive than other tires and last a lot longer.

then you going to see guy run 4cell stock .then 17.5 1cell lipo class because of the tire rule. tour 17.5 should avor spec tire.

then you going to see guy run 4cell stock .then 17.5 1cell lipo class because of the tire rule. tour 17.5 should avor spec tire.

huh????

then you going to see guy run 4cell stock .then 17.5 1cell lipo class because of the tire rule. tour 17.5 should avor spec tire.

What you don't understand is the world GT tire is a "spec" tire. Everyone has to run the same thing, that is the definition for "spec". Honestly the World GT tires are more "spec" than the spec tires you are running. World GT tires are all "purple-ish" compound with your so called "spec" tires there is a choice of compounds making it harder on a new person. In addition like Kevin said they will be cheaper, as they don't wear down nearly as bad.

Before you go all crazy and think that this wont work. Go and spend $33 bucks at Lefthander, or your local hobby shop, or Give Allan at Greeneville RC a call, and they can hook you up with this World GT tires that you need. I will even provide a link for you...

http://www.lefthander-rc.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=1662
http://www.lefthander-rc.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=1663

Or like I said give Allan a call at Greeneville and he can set you up.
http://greenevillercspeedway.com/index.php?option=com_contact&Itemid=3

These tires are like Brushless, and Lipo. Once you give in a try them you will realize they were way better than what you were using. Especially for a budget/beginner "SPEC" class.

Joel White

J-Dubb you must have a special computer program cause you answered a question I couldn't even read. good job!

Bossman i know you are hearing from guys at the track that it is harder to get the tires right now. but i have just found out that it is not very hard to get them. Crc and Bsr have them in stock now. so really it should not be a big issue to get them. i also am pretty sure that before to long Dot will have plenty in the shop.. just might not be b4 tomorrow. Pm me if you need help finding these tires! ill point you in the right direction.

J-Dubb you must have a special computer program cause you answered a question I couldn't even read. good job!

LOL. Yeah, I didn't understand it either. I just wanted it all to end. :p

Joel White

LOL. Yeah, I didn't understand it either. I just wanted it all to end. :p

Joel White
ME TOO!!!! AMEN!!!! you have been most helpful j dub!!!!!!!! as a newbie dint understand a word you said....lol but sure did sound good...lol..lol...lol:wave:, no you really have helped, thanks, mike

At this time BSR and CRC are the only companys putting the purple ring in their World GT Tire. I understand that TM is looking into doing the same. For TOUR events the rule is World GT Tires with the proper foam with a purple ring. These tires are less expensive than other tires and last a lot longer.

.....

Well, I hope Tony at T.M. keeps us all informed. I just purchased and opened a set of "new" T.M. World GT Tires, that are not even legal. Hmmmm. Money down the drain? Maybe Tony will let me exchange them.

Ever changing rules are killing oval racing.

Josh Keller
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I was looking over the rules....I am assuming you can use a tekin 13.5 for COT.....

Well, I hope Tony at T.M. keeps us all informed. I just purchased and opened a set of "new" T.M. World GT Tires, that are not even legal. Hmmmm. Money down the drain? Maybe Tony will let me exchange them.

Ever changing rules are killing oval racing.

Josh Keller
well, i thought that at first also josh, but this is my first year racing pancar, havent even ran my car yet, (dont have a speedo yet), but still stickin with it. everybody has been so helpful, how can i not? plus....well it has costed alot so far, and im not rich!!!! i live in upper michigan and winters will make you crazy...lol. i have had doubts about just forgetting about it, but i think carpet oval will be super big in the next couple years if it is advertised, like me, dint know about it untill i went to kc hobbies and raceway last year, i am 36 years old!!!! i do agree, they should make it easier for a newbie like me, but like j dub said, i think the newbies are making it out harder than it really is
so im stickin with it!!!!! and hope all the newbies will too!!!!! alot of guys willing to help!!!!!, mike, one more thing, as a newbie i will be going to the snowbirds in january, i may make a fool out of myself, but cant wait to meet some of the guys that have helped me get into pancar!!!!! mike

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I was looking over the rules....I am assuming you can use a tekin 13.5 for COT.....

im a newbie and yes you can use that. mike:wave:

I tell you what Josh, I understand that taking time to read the rules before you make your purchase can be frustrating.

But I tell you what I will do. You ship me your one set of TM tires that you just bought and have not run. And I will ship you a set of new legal tires.All it will cost you is shipping both ways.

Allan A