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jflack 08-03-2009, 06:32 PM I would like suggest a rule change for the nitro cars.
A rule needs to be put in place to prevent Exhaust gasses and raw fuel from dumping directly on to the racing surface. The exhaust from the nitro cars are dumping fluid on to the track surface. This effects the track surface and track conditions. This is has never been accepted in any type of racing. A rule needs to be addressed an a change to the exhaust system must be put into place for better racing for the nitro cars and all other classes running with the nitro cars. Thank You
Jimmy Flack
ScottH 08-03-2009, 07:00 PM What would you suggest?
Trust me if there was a way we could burn all of the fuel that was taken in by these engines we would prefer that. But due to the inefficient design of the two-stroke engine, that is just not the case.
But hey, if you will design a 4-stroke engine that runs on plain gasoline, is dependable, will fit in our cars, will last literally thousands of laps and costs us only $100, we will be glad to run it.
Don't you have enough to keep up with in electric racing with the battery/motor of the moment to be worried about us GASCAR guys? ;)
GearboxGraphics 08-03-2009, 07:11 PM What would you suggest?
Trust me if there was a way we could burn all of the fuel that was taken in by these engines we would prefer that. But due to the inefficient design of the two-stroke engine, that is just not the case.
But hey, if you will design a 4-stroke engine that runs on plain gasoline, is dependable, will fit in our cars, will last literally thousands of laps and costs us only $100, we will be glad to run it.
Don't you have enough to keep up with in electric racing with the battery/motor of the moment to be worried about us GASCAR guys? ;)
Not to bump heads here, but I think he has a valid point. Would you want someone to go out on the track right before you and put something down that could affect your run?
I doubt it.
If it is a problem, then it needs to be fixed, simple as that. I am not saying it is a problem, cause I honestly don't know. But, if it is, don't just shrug it off and come back with something stupid like you did. You wouldn't want it to happen to you.
Now, maybe it can't be fixed totally 100%, but there may be something that can be done to improve it.
--Cory
--Cory
ScottH 08-03-2009, 07:27 PM Cory -- you have PM.
A little word of advice for you, know all the facts about something before you post about it. :wave:
kevina250 08-03-2009, 08:14 PM Not to bump heads here, but I think he has a valid point. Would you want someone to go out on the track right before you and put something down that could affect your run?
I doubt it.
If it is a problem, then it needs to be fixed, simple as that. I am not saying it is a problem, cause I honestly don't know. But, if it is, don't just shrug it off and come back with something stupid like you did. You wouldn't want it to happen to you.
Now, maybe it can't be fixed totally 100%, but there may be something that can be done to improve it.
--Cory
--Cory
That little black groove put down on the track is giving bite to any car with cap tires. A lot of cap tracks like to see some nitro cars run to add bite.
Ask any of the locals at CRC about that.
GearboxGraphics 08-03-2009, 09:08 PM That little black groove put down on the track is giving bite to any car with cap tires. A lot of cap tracks like to see some nitro cars run to add bite.
Ask any of the locals at CRC about that.
Kevin, I agree totally. I know about it quite well and am always glad to see the nitro guys running at CrcC.
My point was that if an issue is addressed, talk about it and address it instead of giving the guy a hard time about something that doesn't even pertain to the issue.
I am not saying he is right, I am just saying that he should be able to voice a concern and it be considered, be it right or wrong.
--Cory
ScottH 08-03-2009, 09:58 PM If you think that was me giving Jimmy a hard time you should be around us at the track.
kevina250 08-03-2009, 10:22 PM I believe Jimmy and Scott are just bringing up old times again. They are at it like kissing cousins.:rolleyes: It really is not an issue at all. Just some smack talk between the two.
Tim Mc 08-04-2009, 12:12 AM Pay no attention to Jimmy. He's out of his league in this forum. His only intension is to come on another forum to stir up trouble.
Mitch R 08-04-2009, 07:07 AM I think that's the first time I've heard anyone complain about the gas cars putting down fuel. Now, I can't count the times I've had people tell me that they love it when we come, puts some bite in the track. Go figure ?????
Tim Mc 08-04-2009, 07:31 AM Consider the source. I've requested the thread to be removed. It has no merit and serves only one purpose... no start crap.
jflack 08-04-2009, 05:37 PM If any car is putting fluid on the track it should be disqualified! I am very serious about this, please do something about your cars. You are effecting other classes that run on the same surface.
Tim Mc 08-04-2009, 05:44 PM Get a life Jimbo. You know better than to come to the Gascar forum that does not pertain to any track you race on just to start crap.... If any car is putting fluid on the track it should be disqualified! I am very serious about this, please do something about your cars. You are effecting other classes that run on the same surface.
jflack 08-04-2009, 06:03 PM OK here the question then! DOES YOUR CARS PUT FUILDS ON THE TRACK? Answer it if you dare!
ScottH 08-04-2009, 06:21 PM I know of no Nitro car that puts down "fuilds". :)
Do they emit exhaust, well sure they do. They are FUEL powered.
But Jimmy, seriuosly. You are the FIRST person to ever complain about it as far as I know. If there are others they have been quiet.
It is and has been a well known fact that the Nitro cars do put down a spray. This has served to increase the bite in the "groove". I know that when we only run with the Quarte Scale cars they tend to "smear" it into a wider not as "grippy" groove. But when we run with a large contingent of 10th scale electrics, the groove has more bite. Not only due to the fact of our exhausts but the fact that you guys are the same size and run the same line also due to the various "sauces" you guys use on your tires.
If it has become, or does become and issue. I would suggest you address the owners of the tracks.
But get real, did you really think this was going to do anything positive or just stir the pot?
Tim Mc 08-04-2009, 06:21 PM Not hardly. If you need proof, take a look at the lap times at LPR last event. A 4.89 lap.... plus several cars were sub 5.0. If the track was oily, those lap times would never have gotten there. To top it off, the 1/4 scales were turning low lap times for the summer too. Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it.
OK here the question then! DOES YOUR CARS PUT FUILDS ON THE TRACK? Answer it if you dare!
hankster 08-04-2009, 06:32 PM It appears this is a byproduct of any fuel racing... even full scale racing. Thus it has no solution which makes this thread irrelevant. Time to close this thread.
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