So new we haven't announced to dealers yet! Polyester resin kit contains all shown below in attachment one. Attachment two is the box art by Ron Gross.

As most of you had noticed, the bottom of the hull has been pre-scribed and detailed for opening hatches in these locations. Kit has inner wheels wells, wheels, landing struts, support rails, rear wheel and mount, claw set and claw rack.

Should be out in late September!

Oooooooooooohhhhh! More details :thumbsup:

Very cool but will the resin gear fail after a while? I never use the resin landing gear struts in a kit unless they have metal inserts...sorry..but the FS is heavy.

Steve

That actually looks BETTER than the prop version that we never got to see on screen! :thumbsup:

Bless you, sensei.

How much (if any) of the interior will we be able to keep with that claw mounted?

Very cool but will the resin gear fail after a while? I never use the resin landing gear struts in a kit unless they have metal inserts...sorry..but the FS is heavy.

Steve

We've been working on that. They may end up with an inner support like that, but we have just got them and we're still playing with them....

How much (if any) of the interior will we be able to keep with that claw mounted?

You should be able to keep everything. The claw does not retract. No good shots of it installed right now.

Thats cool. Yes resin for the main gear can bend or break. You often see aircraft parts cast with a rod insert. Actually now you see cast brass gear more than resin and there are companies that sell those to replace spindly plastic kit parts too.

Boy am I glad I bought more than one,yippee. Thanks:thumbsup::wave:

So new we haven't announced to dealers yet! Polyester resin kit contains all shown below in attachment one. Attachment two is the box art by Ron Gross.

As most of you had noticed, the bottom of the hull has been pre-scribed and detailed for opening hatches in these locations. Kit has inner wheels wells, wheels, landing struts, support rails, rear wheel and mount, claw set and claw rack.

Should be out in late September!

YEAH BABY!!:thumbsup:

OUTSTANDING!

I knew there was a reason I had not started my Flying Sub yet. :)

Jim
QMx

Wow, that is cool -- and licensed, right?

Boy, I'm glad I have a second kit.....:thumbsup:

I really love this company!..for the record you have gotten 98 percent of the money I spent on kits since the Voyager was released.

Thanks for the peek.

Steve

OK this is BIG news! Moebius' FIRST "aftermarket" set for one of their kits!!! GREAT! Frank is taking advantage of this market on his own kit as he should!
Could Jupiter 2 accessory kits be in the future?????
Gary:thumbsup:

Wow, that is cool -- and licensed, right?

Absolutely. All logos will be on the box art when it's ready for production. We should have that art to post soon.

Thank you Frank.alex

Thank you Frank.alex

You're welcome sir!

Credit once again to Rich Taylor and the crew at Pendercrafts for resource material to aid with the box art.

Thinking about a 1/32 Diving Bell and Mini Sub Kit?

NICE! I've always wanted a gears down display of the FS. I would love to do a hangar scene using the gear set. Very nice Frank!

I agree I can't wait till gear set come out

Now all we need is a 128th scale kit!:devil:

Mark D

This is great news- my trouble now is deciding to incorporate it with my current build or start a second...

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Wonderful! I've been hoping you would offer the gear kit. Built the F.S. to the hull-closing stage months ago, then laid it back, in hopes of this day. A BIG Thanks!! Hope it is released on schedule.

There's a guy over at Starship Modeler who thinks this is a BAD thing, and swears he'll never buy a Moebius kit because of it. He figures they're trying to rip us off by not offering a "completely accurate" kit in the first place, and "requiring" us to buy accessory kits to complete the model.

:rolleyes:

There's a guy over at Starship Modeler who thinks this is a BAD thing, and swears he'll never buy a Moebius kit because of it. He figures they're trying to rip us off by not offering a "completely accurate" kit in the first place, and "requiring" us to buy accessory kits to complete the model.

:rolleyes:

Well, as most of you know by now, my on-line style is to be generally non-controversial, and to try to resolve differences amicably. But on this one, I have a pretty strong opinion. I'm close enough to Frank to assure everyone that the last thing on his mind is to "rip off" anyone. There are certain realities and, at times, unexpected occurrences in business (with which I'm all too familiar) that may tend to dictate direction. But as far as offering an accessory kit is concerned, what in the world is wrong with that? I simply call it smart business, while offering your customers something of value. That, in the end, is what it's all about. So, in my opinion, this poster over at SM is just going to have to get over it.
Ron G.

Right, how cynical to offer an "accessory" kit. That would never have happened back in the day...

Oh, wait. There were the Aurora monster accessory kits, with the bats and rats. And the Revell extra chrome and engines for cars. And the Renwal chassis to go with the visible V-8. And every one of those was absolutely great.

So is this.

There's a guy over at Starship Modeler who thinks this is a BAD thing, and swears he'll never buy a Moebius kit because of it. He figures they're trying to rip us off by not offering a "completely accurate" kit in the first place, and "requiring" us to buy accessory kits to complete the model.

:rolleyes:

To be honest, I would have loved to have included it with the kit. But then it's no longer a $74.99 retail kit, it's $99.99 retail kit due to additional tooling. And quite a few people could care less about these addons. So am I ripping people off by making someone that doesn't want these pieces pay $25 more, or having people that want them buy it outside of the kit purchase? I guess it's a toss up, but we have calculated that sales should run 1 gear/claw set for every 10 FS kits sold.

Not "completely accurate"? These pieces were in what, one episode? It doesn't fly out of the ocean either! I guess I should have borrowed Bob Burn's prop and made attachments to spray exhaust out of it too!

It doesn't fly out of the ocean either! I guess I should have borrowed Bob Burn's prop and made attachments to spray exhaust out of it too!

It doesn't? You didn't? Really?

Well, I have to say, that's a deal breaker for me. ;)

Jim

Some people will find fault in everything, we know that.
We almost ditched the whole idea of landing gear entirely. After some discussion we thought that this arrangement was the best for everybody, the majority who would build the kit and never care about landing gear would have a$75.00 kit...
Those who want the landing gear would get a kit designed for the add on at $75.00 NOT $100.00 or more and a landing gear set designed to fit the kit from the outset for a price competitive with any other aftermarket add-on..AND there would be less work to install it because the kit is actually designed for it!
Seemed to us like a win-win for the builder....

But then, some people out there will never be satisfied!
Sometimes it irritates us a bit, but generally speaking, we can deal with that!

Dave

Actually I LOVE this idea! I would have purchased the kit either way, but I am iffy about the wheels and arms.

Since I have seen the photos over the years of them, I'm more inclined to add them anyway, just in case I decide I DO want them in the future, and I'm a cheap bastard who will pinch a nickle till the buffalo shits.

Next up, I'd LOVE to see a LIS landing gear accessory kit for the chariot... drill rig, hydroponic garden, maybe an alien plant, that sort of thing. Heck, even a scale robby or "deadliest of species" female robot would be nifty!

If possible, I'd also like to see a clear set of seaview control panels, or possibly things you wanted to include with it be had to hold back on.

There's a guy over at Starship Modeler who thinks this is a BAD thing, and swears he'll never buy a Moebius kit because of it. He figures they're trying to rip us off by not offering a "completely accurate" kit in the first place, and "requiring" us to buy accessory kits to complete the model.

:rolleyes:
The rest of that thread on Starship Modeler sets him straight.
http://www.starshipmodeler.net/talk/viewtopic.php?p=1084633#1084633

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Of course it's a great idea that Moeibus is offering this, and there are some who will complain no matter what you do. Almost every modeling niche has "aftermarket" stuff. That's the beauty of it - you can build it "Out of the Box" or go to town with every add-on you can find. I personally won't get the gear for the FS-1 (since I don't remember it that way from the show) - but I will get almost everything I can for the J2.

Thanks for the option Moebius! :)

I'm thrilled the gear and claws are going to be available as an aftermarket set. Almost as thrilled that the FS kit didn't break the hundred dollar mark!

Hasbro ripped off my entire childhood by offering all those accessories for G.I. Joe. I want restitution!! :mad:

To have the forsight to have molded in the doors for the landing gear and claw,is a stroke of genius!!To appeal to those who would like the gear,claw set is good business.
I was prepared to make my own gear,claw parts,now I can build that version without the hassle.
The Flying Sub is a accurate as was the prop they took it from,cant get any better.When Tamiya announced their 1/32 Zero,the pattern was shown to Mr. Tamiya.It was rejected by him,and a year was spent finding,reserching,and photographing an existing Zero in America.alex

Actually I LOVE this idea! I would have purchased the kit either way, but I am iffy about the wheels and arms.

Since I have seen the photos over the years of them, I'm more inclined to add them anyway, just in case I decide I DO want them in the future, and I'm a cheap bastard who will pinch a nickle till the buffalo shits.

Next up, I'd LOVE to see a LIS landing gear accessory kit for the chariot... drill rig, hydroponic garden, maybe an alien plant, that sort of thing. Heck, even a scale robby or "deadliest of species" female robot would be nifty!

If possible, I'd also like to see a clear set of seaview control panels, or possibly things you wanted to include with it be had to hold back on.

AAAAAAND, why not this? ==> http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showpost.php?p=2924871&postcount=214

I think is great. I don't have a FS yet, and I'm not likely to buy the gear, so I love the fact that I don't have to buy a more expensive. Moebius has done a fantastic job! That you would even consider putting out this accessory kit is great!

AAAAAAND, why not this? ==> http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showpost.php?p=2924871&postcount=214

Well,start building........

AAAAAAND, why not this? ==> http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showpost.php?p=2924871&postcount=214

The only problem with that is I know we would get flak from the "accuracy" guys, as the hull shape we use isn't the crash site version. Now maybe if we did the other hull shape....

You'd get flak from them no matter what you did, so look more at the larger picture, of people who don't spend hours pouring over stills and dvds, trying to nit pick ever detail.

I'm sure is someone looked hard enough, they'd find gaff or duct tape on the hull in one episode....LOL!

The only problem with that is I know we would get flak from the "accuracy" guys, as the hull shape we use isn't the crash site version. Now maybe if we did the other hull shape....

I wouldn't care about those purists. Regarding the J2, I have TWO rules:
1) the true J2 "are" the miniatures; the mock up EXTERIOR (both the crash site set and the full one) was stuff that Allen's crew built trying to do something as similar as possible to the miniatures;
2) what wondered me when I was 10, were the miniatures and the INTERIOR of the filming set mock up.

So, if you do the kit, please count on me to buy one.

Thanks from Brazil for the amazing job.

Technically, Moebius isn't the first model producer to offer accessory packs for their kits. Revell, AMT, and even Aurora offered engine and wheel kits back in the day. I actually have an Aurora Enterprise aircraft carrier kit that had a separate electric motor kit available. You had to buy that kit separately if you wanted to motorize the thing. It's all over the instruction sheets and at first, I couldn't figure out where all the parts were when I bought it from a dealer. Then I realized the motor kit was a separate kit. I don't see why anyone would get all bent out of shape about this. Personally, I fall into the category of those who wouldn't purchase this add-on kit. It's a great accessory kit, and I'm impressed with the fact that Moebius is going the extra mile for the customers who do want this accessory, don't get me wrong. I just always thought the landing gear and claw ruined the whole streamlined appearance of the sub. I also like the fact that I can get the FS kit itself for a much lower price point that if it had these extra parts I wouldn't use anyway. Just my two cents.

Hmm I wonder if the stand can support the weight of the new accessory kit and the fs-1 itself?

Resin can add a lot of weight, and if the wheels can't support the model without sagging over time, the stand would at least be another display alternative.

Since the Flying Sub was shown with these deployed while on the sea floor you could recreate that look with some carefully placed rock outcroppings to support the underside.

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I for one think this was a fantastic idea on the part of Frank, Dave, et al at Moebius. It shows they possess a broad sense of not only improving on their products, but augmenting them as well. It proves they are open-minded to their customers and hopefully opens the doors to other "wish-list" add-on kits (within reason and practicality, of course) like additional goodies for the
J2, or, dare I wish.... an 8 window conversion for the large and small Seaview kits. :thumbsup:

Keep hittin' 'em out of the park Moebius. You are, in my humble opinion, the best thing that has ever happened to this devout fan of IA's contraptions! My Gawd, if you guys had been around when I was a kid in the 60's, my parents would have NEVER gotten any peace everytime we passed the model kit aisle in my local hobby shop.... now only my wife has to put up with my pleading looks as I look at the kits on the shelves.... :wave:

Another FANTASTIC item! I've already ordered my kit from culttvman.

Keep the hits coming. I will always be a loyal Moebius customer. No complaints here. Keep producing and I'll keep buying.

I do believe I'll pose mine parked on the tarmac, wheels down, claw extended, top and bottom hatches open (and the rear door), with my Crow's Nest resin Kowalski doing a routine maintenence check.