View Full Version : Northeast Ohio Open Corr Truck
pink_sleeve 07-28-2009, 10:56 PM We would like to start an open CORR truck class so that way all the CORR trucks can show up at any given track (Ashtabula, Classic, Have Fun, Boardman) and not have to worry about what truck they have since there are so many out there to choose from and more still being worked on. Please leave you vote on to choices with the answer either yes or no. And 3 motor options for OPEN being 17.5 13.5 or 10.5
(1) If you agree that all the RTR trucks should run together please give a yes or no. That means only RTR trucks all run in one CORR class with no aftermarket electronics.
(2) The second being all CORR trucks run together with any electronics but a set motor limit to keep things fair and under control. 17.5 13.5 or 10.5
CORR bodies must be ran as well as CORR style tires only
Please add ONLY your vote in a new post!!!
Stock RTR Spec SCT Class Rules **(FRIDAY AUGUST 7TH 2009)**
(Traxxas Slash, Associated SC10, Team Losi Strike, HPI Racing Blitz)
1. Batteries - Any 6-Cell Nickel based (NO 7 cells) or 2S (7.4v) LiPo
2. Body - Any SCT style body (NO BAJA BUG bodies)
3. Chassis - Stock chassis only. No modifications that will effect suspension/steering geometry (TRUCKS MUST OBTAIN FULL FRONT AN REAR BUMPERS)
4. Differential – Stock Gear diff only (NO BALL DIFFS-NO LOCKERS)
5. Drivetrain - Must retain stock drivetrain. (NO CVD'S!!!) None of the RTR's come with CVD's
6. ESC – Stock RTR ESC'S only (RTR ELECTRONICS MAYBE BE INTERCHANGED BETWEEN MANUFACTURERS)
7. Gearing (Spur/Pinion) – Any spur/pinion that will fit without modification.
8. Motor – Stock (RTR version) (RTR MOTOR'S MAYBE BE INTERCHANGED BETWEEN MANUFACTURERS)
9. Radio - Stock or Aftermarket
10. Receiver - Stock or Aftermarket
11. Servo - STOCK ONLY!!!! (ONLY RTR SERVO'S MAYBE BE INTERCHANGED BETWEEN MANUFACTURERS)
12. Suspension - Stock springs only. Shocks may not be interchanged between manufaturers! You may use any oil in the shock. (NO SWAY BARS!!! TRAXXAS MAY RUN OPTIONAL ALUMINUM SHOCK CAPS. NO EXTRA HOLES MAY BE DRILLED FOR NEW CAMBER LINK OR SHOCK POSITIONING)
13. Tires – Stock SCT tires only (RTR TIRES ONLY MAYBE BE INTERCHANGED BETWEEN MANUFACTURERS) NO BOW TIES, SWITCHES, GOOSEBUMPS, OR SLICKS!!! ALL TIRES MUST HAVE TREAD SHOWING. NO SIPING OR MODIFICATIONS TO THE TIRE TREAD PATTERNS PERMITTED. YOU MAY RUN ANY FOAM OF CHOICE THOUGH SINCE NO 2 MANUFACTURERS FOAMS ARE THE SAME)
14. Wheels – Stock SCT wheels only (MUST RUN THE CORRECT MANUFACTURERS WHEEL FOR YOUR TRUCK. TRAXXAS/TRAXXAS, AE/AE, HPI/ HPI/, LOSI/LOSI.... NO MODIFICATIONS TO ALTER STOCK OFFSET!!!)
15. Weight (NO MODIFICATIONS ALLOWED TO INTENTIONALLY LOWER ANY TRUCKS WEIGHT, ALTHOUGH YOU ARE ALLOWED TO ADD WEIGHT...)
16. Must be 2wd only
RACE FORMAT WILL BE RAN AS IFMAR QUALIFYING. NO HEADS UP STARTS. QUALIFIERS TO BE 5 MINUTES. 7 MINUTES A-MAINS WITH ALL LOWER MAINS BEING 5 MINUTES
pink_sleeve 07-28-2009, 10:57 PM Dan Neer (1)Yes (2)13.5
ccm399 07-28-2009, 11:02 PM Chris Music
1. YES Except the reciever(I think this is generally accepted already)
2. YES 13.5
badassrevo 07-28-2009, 11:07 PM Doug Lightcap
1. YES, as Chris said RTR electronics except reciever (you should be able to mix and
match between the RTR equipment.)
2.YES 13.5
Skull&Bones 07-28-2009, 11:50 PM John Hazen
1)yes (as above posters)
2)13.5
ccm399 07-29-2009, 12:10 AM I was looking around RC Tech and found a couple references to a "Pro 2" class for the CORR trucks with a 10.5 limit. Sounded like it was a good deal.
I think starting this thread was a great idea Dan.
Vote on!
pink_sleeve 07-29-2009, 08:48 AM Over 50 looks and only 4 votes total. You guys have to vote to get a rules package rolling :dude:
Scott54 07-29-2009, 08:58 AM 1) yes
2) yes, motor: whatever.
I still think there should be a Spec Slash class since it's so cheap to get into.
Mike D. 07-29-2009, 09:05 AM 1)...right on!!!
2)motor.......whatever you have!!!
pink_sleeve 07-29-2009, 09:10 AM I think it should be a spec RTR class. They are all around $200 RTR, all pretty much handle the same, and all run about the same speed. Losi came out with the Strike to compete heads up with the Slash not have a class of their own. Nobody wants to buy an RTR SC10, Strike, or Blitz then have to dump maybe $200 on a brushless just to race it. They are all RTR and should all run together in my opinion..... Most people that run RTR's are just starting out and is the truck really gonna make that big of a difference for a beginner? The Slash might not handle as good as the SC10, but the SC10 is nowhere near as durable as the Slash so they all have trade offs. Thats why i say let all the RTR's just run together!!! That's why they are all called SCT's. Besides if somebody wants to cherry pick in the SPEC class then let them have there 2 months of glory (cough cough Jason) Because i'm sure if we run an OPEN class most will move over to that anyways because i'm sure the racers want to run there choice of chassis ;)
SKEEMCIRE 07-29-2009, 09:21 AM 1) yes
2) I would run with whatever motor is decided on (I'm to new to brushless to make an informed decision)
ccm399 07-29-2009, 10:48 AM So while we are on the subject of and Open CORR class what type of start will be used? Heads up or IFMAR.
Just a question.
badassrevo 07-29-2009, 11:33 AM IFMAR for my vote.
ccm399 07-29-2009, 11:34 AM IFMAR for me too.
ccm399 07-29-2009, 12:30 PM Ok after watching the video Doug posted I would like to change my motor vote to no limit.
SLASH4 07-29-2009, 12:44 PM 1 Yes 2 NO TO Motor Limit
Heatseeker 07-29-2009, 01:19 PM IFMAR starts
1 Yes
2 13.5
Heatseeker 07-29-2009, 01:20 PM Ok after watching the video Doug posted I would like to change my motor vote to no limit.
What video?
ccm399 07-29-2009, 01:28 PM This one....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KIDvdVtMKk
This one....
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That's crazy...
ccm399 07-29-2009, 01:31 PM But COOL! :)
Look like MAD bite at that track.
Scott54 07-29-2009, 01:35 PM I'm changing my vote for the 2nd question. I think it should just be open. I think spec corr class will meet everyone's needs for even racing. Once you get into an open class, why not allow different motors? It's not like we're going to see a difference on the track. I mean, look at all the other classes that are mod, everyone runs what they want and there's always a ceiling for the fastest lap that nobody can get under regardless. I think by leaving it open, it will bring more racers, even the stock motors could run.
Mike D. 07-29-2009, 01:41 PM awsome vidieo!!!!! you rooock!!!
ccm399 07-29-2009, 01:41 PM I'm changing my vote for the 2nd question. I think it should just be open. I think spec corr class will meet everyone's needs for even racing. Once you get into an open class, why not allow different motors? It's not like we're going to see a difference on the track. I mean, look at all the other classes that are mod, everyone runs what they want and there's always a ceiling for the fastest lap that nobody can get under regardless. I think by leaving it open, it will bring more racers, even the stock motors could run.
Totally agree. Castle probably would not like being cut out of the open class. If you set a motor limit where does it go from there? Tekin has a couple different rotors and such for their 13.5 add adjustable timing and such and the motor limit gets tricky quickly.
Seems like motor limits increase spending in other areas. For example you will not be able to have soft cells (like mine :) ) and run at the top if you limit the motors. I run an 8.5 in my 2 wheel where Jason is normally running 10.5 but his cells are newer so he has more punch then I would with a 10.5.
ccm399 07-29-2009, 01:42 PM awsome vidieo!!!!! you rooock!!!
Doug Lightcap or Dan Neer found that one.
cbrociuos 07-29-2009, 01:58 PM 1 yes 2 no limit the corr tires will be all the limit thats needed. this way anyone can run without having to spend an arm and a leg.
ccm399 07-29-2009, 02:21 PM Yes
13.5
Would you still say the 13.5 given the 6 cell pack or 2s Lipo rule????
Would you still say the 13.5 given the 6 cell pack or 2s Lipo rule????
At the nats 6 cell or 2c lipo was FAST with a 10.5, most people couldn't drive it. I would think limiting the motor and or batteries would entice more people to run. The faster something is; the more wear and tear, harder to drive, harder to set up, and less people running it.
ccm399 07-29-2009, 02:27 PM At the nats 6 cell or 2c lipo was FAST with a 10.5, most people couldn't drive it. I would think limiting the motor and or batteries would entice more people to run. The faster something is; the more wear and tear, harder to drive, harder to set up, and less people running it.
So that was a yes then???? :p
Good points.
Heatseeker 07-29-2009, 02:45 PM A little off the subject but, would I be able to use the batteries from my Slash (25C 5000 2S) in the Kyosho Ultima RB5 SP with a 8.5T Tekin RS Sensored Brushless ESC/Motor Combo???? All this talk about CORR has me thinking about swapability. LOL
Tweak
badassrevo 07-29-2009, 02:48 PM yes you would
ccm399 07-29-2009, 02:50 PM A little off the subject but, would I be able to use the batteries from my Slash (25C 5000 2S) in the Kyosho Ultima RB5 SP with a 8.5T Tekin RS Sensored Brushless ESC/Motor Combo???? All this talk about CORR has me thinking about swapability. LOL
Tweak
The 25c pack should fit....the 45c pack WILL NOT. The RB5 tray is about 23 MAYBE 24 mm tall.
Chris
Heatseeker 07-29-2009, 02:54 PM Thank you.
ccm399 07-29-2009, 02:56 PM Thank you.
I can get you the exact size this weekend.
Chris
Heatseeker 07-29-2009, 03:11 PM I can get you the exact size this weekend.
Chris
That would be great.
Tweak
One other point, If you do go to unlimited motor choices, make sure the tires are the same way (open to choice). Trying to put down power with stock Slash, Assoc, or HPI tires don't work. You'll need goosebumps or holeshots.
ccm399 07-29-2009, 03:19 PM I think that is what they are trying to say would be the equalizer....you can run any motor but can you hook it up?
Personally given the choice, I would rather be limited to a 13.5 AND CORR tires then open the class up to any motor/ any tire.
I wonder what tire the truck in the video was on??? Pink tapers? LOL
badassrevo 07-29-2009, 04:04 PM It was on AE CORR tires
ccm399 07-29-2009, 05:04 PM It was on AE CORR tires
Thanks Doug.
viper311 07-29-2009, 06:58 PM Here is my vote
1. yes
2. 13.5
covell2 07-29-2009, 07:07 PM 1. yes............... 2. open............... 3. pink tapers, was that part of the poll?
trashedmaxx 07-29-2009, 08:30 PM I would like to see the spec slash rules unchanged and a additional mod corr class that is open to any manufacturer vehicle.
I think the motor limit should be 13.5 and above to not scare away new people.
I would also like to see the tires stay spec. Only tires that fit corr truck wheels. No 1/8th or cut tires.
It would be nice to have a set of rules that all the tracks in the area go by. I ran this past Sunday with my SC10 and I was the odd man out in the slash class.
Bob Imbrigotta 07-29-2009, 09:19 PM 1 yes 2 no limit but spec tire
pink_sleeve 07-29-2009, 09:32 PM Would you guys care if Doug Lightcap, Chris Music, and I come up with the rules package that way it isn't just one person? Then these rules would apply at Ashtabula, Classic, Have Fun, and Boardman. I'm sure we could get together over a meal somewhere and get a package put together within the next 10 days or so.... Keep the votes rolling in though guys.......
Vanwall 07-29-2009, 10:42 PM 1. yes
2. No motor limit
CORR Tires.
cbrociuos 07-29-2009, 11:08 PM just saw ryan tonight, he was kind enough to point out that 13.5 is the stock truck motor, didnt know only have ran mod. to me this doesnt make a damn bit of sense, the stock class and the mod class would be so close in power. would it even make any sense to water down the spec class for this? i understand the whole less maint. brushless thing, but isnt the idea of a mod. class to see how far, and fast you can push your car w/ the avalible traction? the tires are only going to allow you to go so fast, even with indoor perfect conditions. ill save someone the time and point out im new, started racing last christmas, but can anyone tell me what i wrote doesnt make sense?:)
ccm399 07-30-2009, 12:09 AM Would you guys care if Doug Lightcap, Chris Music, and I come up with the rules package that way it isn't just one person? Then these rules would apply at Ashtabula, Classic, Have Fun, and Boardman. I'm sure we could get together over a meal somewhere and get a package put together within the next 10 days or so.... Keep the votes rolling in though guys.......
Mmmm, dinner.... :)
wheels-a-fire 07-30-2009, 12:20 AM (1) yes
(2) no motor limit, like cbrocius said, the tires aside from doping them up are limited to the amount of traction they can provide, so it still comes down to the drivers ability. I think a 17.5 would be optimal though with stock tires.:thumbsup:
ccm399 07-30-2009, 12:21 AM Ok so I did some quick vote totals...
Option 1. RTR CORR class allowing all CORR trucks to run in one class.
16 - Yes Votes
1 - Keep Slash by itself and run the rest RTR in their own class.
Option 2. Open CORR Class.
7 - 13.5 Votes
9 - No limit Votes
1 - Will run whatever is decided on.
Both options assume CORR tires and CORR body that covers th etires when viewed from above.
So there you have it so far.
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