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BIGCHUCK
07-28-2009, 03:40 PM
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Here is the basic class structure for the 2009-2010 Brushless Racing League Oval Series. We’ll get a full rules update done soon with all the details but this will give the basics.

First, I wanted to make a couple comments. You’ll notice that most classes allow any ROAR approved motor. After 3 seasons using Novak motors nearly exclusively, this was a difficult decision. We’ve had great, close racing and Novak’s motors have proven to be very reliable and long lasting. They have been a great supporter of oval racing and their new Ballistic motors look like outstanding products.

But, for the first time in some years, our sport has a chance to adopt a unified set of rules across most of the country. This will make it possible to run competitively with the same equipment in many series and at most major carpet oval races. We participated in developing those rules but throughout the process we told the others involved that the BRL reserved the option to add limitations to those rules if we felt it was in the best interests of our racers. In the end, we’ve decided that adopting the rules for the TOUR Championship classes will give BRL racers the chance to use the same equipment they run in our series when they go to other major races and kick butt.

The 2009-2010 BRL Oval Series will award points and crown champions in the following classes:

- Super Stock 13.5 / 1 cell Lipo – This class will follow TOUR rules and use COT bodies (Protoform or McAllister) with any 13.5 brushless motor and single cell Lipo which is ROAR approved on or before October 1st, 2009. Motors or batteries approved after that date will not be legal during the 2009-2010 season.

- Pro Stock 21.5 / 2 cell Lipo – This class will follow the same BRL motor, battery and body rules as last season; Novak 21.5 SS Pro motors, SMC 3228 batteries and Nationwide Series style NASCAR bodies running 1 “ spoilers only, no wings. The rear of the body must remain in place above the manufacturer’s molded in cut line.

- Pro Stock 10.5 / 1 cell Lipo – This class will follow TOUR rules and use NASCAR Nationwide Series bodies with any 10.5 brushless motor and single cell Lipo battery which is ROAR approved on or before October 1st, 2009. Motors or batteries approved after that date will not be legal during the 2009-2010 season. Wings and cutting out the rear of the body will be permitted.

- Pro Mod / 1 cell Lipo – This class will follow TOUR rules and use NASCAR Nationwide Series bodies with a TOUR Spec Mod brushless motor (expected to be 7.5) and single cell batteries which are ROAR approved on or before October 1st, 2009. Batteries approved after that date will not be legal during 2009-2010. Wings and cutting out the rear of the body will be permitted. The TOUR Spec Mod motors will be made by a single manufacturer but will be available only through the TOUR (details on distribution to follow).

In addition to these championship classes, we encourage local tracks to run the 17.5 / 1S class with NASCAR truck bodies to give new entrants to the sport a class in which to run. When we run at tracks with local participation in this class, this Sportsman Class will be added to the BRL program.

The TOUR has adopted the BRL approach to heating and cooling of batteries or motors. So we will continue to check battery temp and motor temp in tech. Motors and batteries must be within 5 degrees of ambient at tech inspection. Artificial heating or cooling of motors or batteries is not permitted.

There is a lot of concern that some ESC’s have the capability to feed through power from receiver packs to the motor control circuit. Although our testing to this point indicates that this does not provide a performance advantage, we want our racers to be confident that no one is gaining an advantage through this technique. For this reason, we will place a limit on receiver pack size (TBD but probably 400 mAhr’s or less) and require that receiver packs be connected only to the receiver using standard JST or servo plugs and wiring not to exceed 20ga.

Further, our final rules will state that the voltage as measured at the connector between the ESC and main battery can not exceed the allowable maximum (4.22 v for 1 cell and 8.44 v for 2 cell) at any time. If wired as required, any voltage fed back from the receiver pack through the ESC will be measurable at this inspection point. Voltage is subject to inspection at pre-race tech or at any other time the car is race ready (including on the starting line).

AJS
07-28-2009, 04:10 PM
Those rules look very good, I'm sure that there was a lot of give and take to make some of the hard decisions.

It should be a great BRL season again this year, I have all the confindence in the Chucks to make this an other competitive and fun Series.

CBear3
07-28-2009, 04:15 PM
I think we'll see that come October first the fear of open motors and open batteries will really come down to choosing one of two top suppliers for each. It'll still be very cost effective racing. And even with the upheavel and move to single cell, roughly half of the drivers who scored points last year can race their cars the same way they left them at the end of the season in the 21.5 class.

JOHNNYTANLINE
07-28-2009, 04:42 PM
I like it! I'm on it! I'm there dudes, see ya at the track!

(whats with the logo change?!?!?)

Sparky

CBear3
07-28-2009, 04:45 PM
Dusty whipped up a slightly edgier look for this year.

bluelineracer
07-28-2009, 04:58 PM
I'm slightly edgier myself these days. Be careful.;)Dusty whipped up a slightly edgier look for this year.

CBear3
07-28-2009, 05:29 PM
That's what sleep deprivation will do to you :)

Now we just need to get some official BRL house-car wraps done so that people won't run over me or our guest drivers :)

Chris S
07-28-2009, 05:32 PM
I like the new rules. Pretty close to what everyone was talking about when we all first discussed change.

I'm slightly edgier myself these days. Be careful.;)

Stay off the roids Dusty. They can't improve your driving. Just ask that certain cup driver. No good will come from it.

NovakTwo
07-28-2009, 06:21 PM
Novak made a commitment to BRL to continue to offer our SS Pro spec wind motors for another year.

Now, that is no longer necessary?

BSRACING
07-28-2009, 07:01 PM
21.5 Is Still Ss Only Same As Last Year No Changes

FarroutRacing
07-28-2009, 07:17 PM
i like the new 13.5 class with the cot bodies just one Question r the smc 1 cells ROAR aprooved also do voltage boosters have to be roar aprooved
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BIGCHUCK
07-28-2009, 10:39 PM
Voltage boosters and receiver packs do not need ROAR approval. The SMC 4000 mAhr 1 cell and ThunderPower 5000 mAhr 1 cell packs are currently approved. I hear that SMC will have a new, higher capacity pack approved by ROAR before the deadline.

FarroutRacing
07-28-2009, 10:49 PM
ok thx for the help idk if im going to make all brls or make any

rickk5
07-28-2009, 11:06 PM
i like the new logo!!!! it needed a little bit of a face lift!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

hurricane99m
07-28-2009, 11:48 PM
what esc's can be used with 1s lipo and how is the reciever pack used and why? thanks for the help.
p.s. i would be running tekin esc if i run this winter

MIDWESTRC
07-29-2009, 08:58 AM
Looks great. Thanks for all the hard work Chuck !!!!!! See you all on the rug !:thumbsup:

Swampy
08-01-2009, 05:43 PM
Chuck, Possible schedule update......Some guys need to plan for time off a ways out. Everything looks good so far....Thanks again, Bobby

BIGCHUCK
08-02-2009, 07:19 PM
Schedule should be completed this week.

Swampy
08-02-2009, 08:26 PM
Thank you ......

trussell
08-05-2009, 01:11 PM
Does any one know if the reedy 4600 1s is roar approved? (part # asc719) I heard it was & was wanting confirmation. Thanks!

CBear3
08-05-2009, 02:39 PM
Its not on their list of approvals right now, but they're only supposed to be doing October approvals so that makes sense.
The press release says they're submitting it so I'd imagine it'll be approved since Reedy has plenty of other 2c batteries already approved.

trussell
08-05-2009, 02:41 PM
Thanks for the info. Appreciate it.

MIDWESTRC
08-17-2009, 12:09 PM
Any updates on the 7.5 motors for Pro mod?

BIGCHUCK
08-17-2009, 02:47 PM
The BRL's 7.5 PRO MOD class will follow the same motor rules recently announced by the TOUR. While the concept of a specially made, spec 7.5 available only through the TOUR had great merit, we found that time and other practical factors made it impossible to implement for this season.

Instead all the leading motor manufacturers were contacted and asked to provide data and other information on the 7.5 motors they manufacture and wished to use to compete with one another. A part of the data gathered was that necessary so we can tech the motors to be sure they are as manufactured. This resulted in the attached list of approved 7.5 motors.

MIDWESTRC
08-17-2009, 05:48 PM
Thanks dor the update Chuck. just didn't want to wait til the last minute to have to buy everything. Battery list comes out in Oct. correct? Thats cutting it close to the first BRL race.

cheatr71
08-17-2009, 07:06 PM
since Novak just got their ballistic motors roar approved, that means their legal for competetion in the spec. motors right? Jason

BIGCHUCK
08-17-2009, 07:27 PM
Ballistic motors are legal in all classes except 21.5 / 2S.

camodeen
09-06-2009, 11:12 AM
Was wondering if the tekin motors will be allowed in 21.5/2s?

CBear3
09-06-2009, 02:27 PM
Nope, same rules as last year: Novak 21.5 SS motors only.
Open motor rules apply to all the one cell classes though.

Alien ArtWerX
09-12-2009, 12:43 PM
Does anyone know who is the head of the BRL series? I need to contact him as I have some questions about the BRL at Tri-State Hobbies, being I'm one of the new owners.:thumbsup:

bluelineracer
09-12-2009, 12:47 PM
seriously?
Big Chuck about 3 posts up.....or CBear seems to be somewhat involved as well.
dk
Does anyone know who is the head of the BRL series? I need to contact him as I have some questions about the BRL at Tri-State Hobbies, being I'm one of the new owners.:thumbsup:

Alien ArtWerX
09-13-2009, 11:23 PM
Ballistic motors are legal in all classes except 21.5 / 2S.

BigChuck, please contact me at Tri-State hobbies about the BRL race on the 17th. Thanks

Ken
513 889 3954

Mayhem Racing
09-14-2009, 07:31 PM
Big Chuck is the man u can reach him most times at Fastlane Racway 816-220-0100. Cbear3 is Chucks son. Aka Little chuck.

Alien ArtWerX
09-15-2009, 11:14 PM
Chuck called me yesterday at the hobbyshop. Everything is good to go for the 17th of October. Hope to see everyone then.

EricL
09-18-2009, 06:04 PM
Chuck called me yesterday at the hobbyshop. Everything is good to go for the 17th of October. Hope to see everyone then.

can't wait to see everyone back here again! Was a blast the last time!

EricL#11

jashack79
09-18-2009, 11:35 PM
Not sure if I over looked it, but what is min weight?

Thanks

Jason

BoneSpec
09-19-2009, 04:06 AM
can't wait to see everyone back here again! Was a blast the last time!

EricL#11

Only I wasn't there to punt you.......BTW, I need my pinions back you used that weekend :)

MIDWESTRC
09-19-2009, 10:48 PM
Jason, I think it is 36 oz for 1 cell

rickk5
09-20-2009, 01:39 AM
Not sure if I over looked it, but what is min weight?

Thanks

Jason

hi jason:wave: single cell weight is 36 ounces for sure!!!

Alien ArtWerX
09-20-2009, 10:17 AM
Hello again everyone. Just wanted to post an update on the new carpet at Tri-State. The carpet guys finished up Thursday afternoon, and it looks great. They did such a great job you can't even see the seems. Really looking forward to this years events. Pics are posted on the Tri-State thread if anyone wants to take a look.

MIDWESTRC
09-20-2009, 05:58 PM
So how long til Monty has a groove run in? LOL

hussel7
09-20-2009, 06:54 PM
lets see... if the carpet was just layed thursday.... he's prolly got it groved by now. lol! carpet looks great from the pics. can't wait!

cheatr71
09-21-2009, 07:13 PM
Any of you 13.5 guys, I've got a body mounting question for the cot's. The TOUR rules state that cut the body on the body lines then it gives roof and hood heights plus the 1/8th" splitter rule. My question is which is the way to go so its legal? If i trim the splitter down and follow the heights in the rules I will be breaking the other rule about cut on the body lines. I can't get the guys from the tour to answer so maybe bigchuck will read this and say what will be acceptable in his series. I don't want to trim to much and then find out its illegal. Thanks

Mayhem Racing
09-21-2009, 07:40 PM
Having more than an 1/8 inch splitter is ok, less is not. I just cut the body on the factory line and it works great. Slaming the bodt dont make it handle any better they push like motor homes, so just cut on body lines and mount from there u can always trim if above height limit.

MK Race
09-21-2009, 11:44 PM
We just talked about that last weekend. What if you have a max height at the rear deck and the 1/8 splitter? The splitter can be as low as the mininum chassis height and the rear max. It will keep the body rake within reason. If you make it the trim line, the splitter will end up being at least a 1/4 inch thick and look stupid. I cut my splitter to the 1/8 inch and left the trim line at the back of the body panel in front of the rear wheel well.

Shane's car looks ok because he painted the bottom 1/8 inch.

Kevin Koback
09-22-2009, 12:10 AM
Any of you 13.5 guys, I've got a body mounting question for the cot's. The TOUR rules state that cut the body on the body lines then it gives roof and hood heights plus the 1/8th" splitter rule. My question is which is the way to go so its legal? If i trim the splitter down and follow the heights in the rules I will be breaking the other rule about cut on the body lines. I can't get the guys from the tour to answer so maybe bigchuck will read this and say what will be acceptable in his series. I don't want to trim to much and then find out its illegal. Thanks

Maybe the body height rules are so all the manufacturer's bodies will fit the guidelines when cut on the lines? One mfg may be at the min, one may be way above, if cut right on the lines. Just a thought!

Allan A
09-22-2009, 07:02 PM
Any of you 13.5 guys, I've got a body mounting question for the cot's. The TOUR rules state that cut the body on the body lines then it gives roof and hood heights plus the 1/8th" splitter rule. My question is which is the way to go so its legal? If i trim the splitter down and follow the heights in the rules I will be breaking the other rule about cut on the body lines. I can't get the guys from the tour to answer so maybe bigchuck will read this and say what will be acceptable in his series. I don't want to trim to much and then find out its illegal. Thanks

Not to jump in front of Chuck but Alan Bealer gave a good answer to this question. Posted below.

ok guys here are the golden rules for mounting a COT body

1 mount the body in the center of the wheel well provided in the body mold

2 the splitter can be trimmed to 1/8 inch

3 the hood can not be any lower than 2 1/2 inches at the wheels

4 the roof may be no lower than 4 3/8 inches

5 the back of the body must be left in and on a protoform body it still must have the protoform mold in the back.

the mold lines on the side are a reference point. as long as you meet the 4 and 3/8 height they do not matter.

steve and i have gone over these rules. so if you have further questions go ahead and ask

BoneSpec
09-22-2009, 09:40 PM
since I've yet to see a COT body, and the Protoform I ordered should be in tomorrow at local shop, please clarify #5........

CBear3
09-23-2009, 09:11 AM
Somebody in another thread couldn't find the bumper trim line and cut above the protoform logo. The comment in number 5 is just to make sure you're looking in the right place.

Allan A
09-25-2009, 10:54 PM
Somebody in another thread couldn't find the bumper trim line and cut above the protoform logo. The comment in number 5 is just to make sure you're looking in the right place.

Thanks for straighting out my mess, I should have let you all answer that post.