http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=SUM5250CM

looks like smc does

And the battery of the month used to be bad with NiCds and NiMhs? :lol:

Good thing we only have to worry about 2 per year with TOUR taking over!!

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=SUM5250CM

looks like smc does

good thing I'm going single cell racing

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=SUM5250CM

looks like smc does

Need a new one for my lipo touring car and off road truck. Very good timing.

good thing I'm going single cell racing
Don't count your chickens...

Here we go again guys...turn the clock back 15 yrs!

Nope. Not here we go again. We already know what to expect for the upcoming carpet season. Lets not make this a negative thing for oval. We don't use that battery, and wont unless it is for unlimited MOD.

Hey...is that 50c PER CELL!

if it is, WOW would that make a GREAT 1 cell (3.7v) Pack - WOW 100c (That's like a WHOLE Dollar!)

That would let you pull what (lets see 100c x's 5200mAh) would be like being able to pull 520 AMPS - GO BABY!

Hope you're right Joel but you know how human nature goes.

Very true...Lets hope that the powers that be make it an easy choice for us...

Whether you run single cell or 2 cell, new packs are only approved 2 times a year, at worst your buying a new pack 2 times in a year,........... thats NOT EVEN CLOSE to as bad as it was back in the day with nicad and nimh.

OMG, imagine that the guys who sell stuff to the R/C community are trying to come up with the latest thing we all want to buy ....... if anyone is thinking 1 cell will stop that your kidding yourselves........... again 2 times a year the "latest and greatest" will be approved by ROAR for competition not whenever like it used to be in the ni-cad days.....

Dave and I both ran a 25C and 40C with the 7.5 test and it was hard to tell much difference. I wouldn't get too worry about the C numbers right now... IMO

don't worry the lipo gods will change the format again. Sold us on 2 cell 21.5 now single cell whatever. Just wait will be running something different by January

life cells baby! 6 volts

COOL,That means that the 30 and 40c lipos will come down in price for us cheap skates.:thumbsup:

After 25 years...For all the changes made it all remains the same

As long as tracks adopt the TOUR rules we shouldn't have an issue. I'm not concerned.

Chuck

Good thing we only have to worry about 2 per year with TOUR taking over!!

LOL Joel - WHAT has the TOUR got to do with 2 per year? They are using ROAR's approval dates (Wasn't that what EVERYONE else was using before the tour....)

What I can't believe is people who buy into the thought..."It's only twice a year"

Ok so say a SEASON starts in October, but you are till racing in SEPTEMBER...but you NEED a COUPLE new packs for Next Weekends race... What do you do?

A) STAY HOME, because you KNOW there is a better battery going to be approved NEXT MONTH - and the money you SAVE Staying HOME this week will PAY for those...

B) GO and BUY the NEW PACKS 2 1/2 weeks before the NEW STUFF hits the street (LEGALLY), and hope since what you just bought is only a couple weeks old, you can get 1/2 of what you JUST paid for it....

Just because there is an APPROVAL DATE - doesn't mean THAT is the exact date people will buy their new batteries... (if it DOES - then maybe it should be YOU CAN ONLY BUY NEW BATTERIES on SEPT 1st, and MARCH 1st or something...

(Sorry, but I find so much of this "Same Old Same Old" amusing!!)

...as many of you find OUR rules the same way!! :)

This hobby in general is a BIG MONEY PIT , lipo chargers gen 3 hyperion batteries , now we'll need freakin chargers to do 25 amps , better off playin cards and throwin your money away !!!!!!! just my .02 cents

if playing cards floats your boat don't let anyone get in your way!

I RAISE!
http://www.wildnatureimages.com/images%202/040428-037..jpg

Sell all your stuff and get yourself an IRacing.com membership... There's your answer.

Ok so say a SEASON starts in October, but you are till racing in SEPTEMBER...but you NEED a COUPLE new packs for Next Weekends race... What do you do?

I thought Lipo packs lasted for years Joe. Why wouldn't you just run the packs or pack that you already have that would be legal for the current season or approval period? The new packs would be illegal to run until October 1st. With the TOUR rules, that would be the answer. Probably would be the same with your series, right, if you were to make a pack change? Why does this have to be so difficult???

Sell all your stuff and get yourself an IRacing.com membership... There's your answer.

I was checking that out the other afternoon. Not going to sell my stuff though.

I thought Lipo packs lasted for years Joe. Why wouldn't you just run the packs or pack that you already have that would be legal for the current season or approval period? The new packs would be illegal to run until October 1st. With the TOUR rules, that would be the answer. Probably would be the same with your series, right, if you were to make a pack change? Why does this have to be so difficult???


I thought Lipo packs lasted for years Joe. Why wouldn't you just run the packs or pack that you already have that would be legal for the current season or approval period?

Well, sometimes THINGS happen. You SMOKE a PACK, you DESTROY a PACK in a CRASH...not EVERY purchase is simply made because it's the BEGINNING of the season.

The new packs would be illegal to run until October 1st. With the TOUR rules, that would be the answer. Probably would be the same with your series, right, if you were to make a pack change?

Yes it would...(Which is where the question stemmed from) and YES.. I did/do NOT allow the NEW stuff until the NEW DATE, and YES it did cause a racer to NOT return to racing until AFTER that date...and "the STAYING HOME allowed me to BUY the NEW Batteries" was the comment made.

Why does this have to be so difficult???

Who said anything about it being difficult? LOL

joe allows the heating of lipo packs...this alone will help age a pack or swell one

LOL funny thing is...is it hasn't cause a SINGLE issue in 18 months, and NONE of My battery failures had anything to do with heating...

Oh and I don't only "ALLOW" heating - I encourage it, along with ENCOURAGING cooling of MOTORS "Before and AFTER" a run!!

A $15.00 HEATING pad offers just as good a PERFORMANCE ENHANCEMENT as switching battery brands....without ALL the expense!!! ;) :wave:

(matter of fact, I'm trying to design a STATOR COOLER for the NEW Ballistic Stators, so you can have a nice ICY COLD ONE ready for your next race...but to pass Motor Temp TECH - you better toss the RING in with your battery heater!!)

...oh and ALL of OUR batteries have lasted LONGER than the rest of the countries RULES!! lmao!!

umm joe i simply stated a rule you use...you don't have to get nasty and put down the brl...they do get 4 times as many entries i think they are doing just fine with there rules.

I like joes rules fit in with what everyone else had been doing for two years now ...

heating YES

cooling yes

ROCKET loves the rule package ...SRM

ticket to cali is about 350.00 steve your narvana awaits!

Hey Kat,

I never said a word about the BRL -

I don't follow them enough to know or care about their numbers either. I'm not one who would BASH another Promoter or race director who works his ass off....for his racers.

I can say, on average we only get about 75-80 "different" racers a year, (it use to be over 100) and we steadily get 35-50 at a given event.

But to me the impressive thing is - MOST (over 50%) of our racers have been racing together for the better part of 2 decades! (THAT's virtually 20 years from THIS small group!!)

So, if you feel the need to constantly BASH these guys... go right ahead!


Aaron Hynds
Andy Barrious
Arnold Brittain
Art Hernandez
Bob Lourenco
Brad Muther
Brandon Lourenco
Brandon Patti
Brett Patti
Brian Bond
Brian Boudakian
Bryan Blaser
Bryan Myers
Chad Lantz
Chris Giles
Chris Scarbourough
Danny Quinn
Dave Barber
Dave Werner
David Lopes
Dennis Brown
Dennis Hasin
Donn Natale
Doug Morrow
Eric Brust
Erick Steenhoven
Frank Valentino
Gary Hamilton
Jeff Helms
Jerry Purser
Jim Bishop
Joe Blackburn
Joe Myers
Joe Plummer
John Birmele
John Card
John Miles
Johnny Baja
Josh Barry
Keith Brown
Ken Collins
Kevin Kilber
Kevin Osmon
Larry Ruby
Lee Patton
Lou Maldonado
Marvin O. Avila
Matt Gammel
Mike Hite
Mike Plant
Mits Yamahata
Nic Case
Paul Cathey
Randy Smith
Richard Tompkins
Ron Burgess
Scot Petitclerc
Scott Chambliss
Seth McLain
Steve Jacquez
Steve Moore
Tim Smith
Tim Twyman
TJ Kendall
Tom Harris
Tom Kendall
Tony Gammel
Uncle Buck


(These are guys who have attended at least one "SERIES" race in 2009, and does NOT include the guys from Japan who travel for our ALLSTAR SHOOTOUT event)

just one......ruby ruby ruby!

LOL, ok you're allowed THAT one!!

Now Now Kat, Be NICE!
How are things going.

thankfully if you do not have one of these packs it is not the end of the world. today Frank Mertz did a side by side by side comparison of the smc 40c, smc 50c, and tp 40c. all of them were very close. the tp40c was actually a bit better. so i guess we need a 60c soon just to stir things up? :)

ruby things can't get much better for me...i could always use alot more money..but everything else is good! haven't heard from you in awhile...all good out there? dictator joe treating you ok? what car ya running now?

peace bill

Yeah, more money would always be nice. Things are good out here. Joe's cool with me. Not running for anyone at the moment. Been running the Gen3 with good success. Going to be running the Stryker for a little while trying to help out Scot with set up.

very cool ruby...hey can you delete the quote you copied? seems someone is offended...i guess i can see why,lol.

You could only use more money Katifsh , How about weight loss , a face more than a mother can love , a job that makes more than 10 bucks an hour, a new car and a new house . I can keep going if you like ... I just feel like this we had an awesome SNOWBIRDS 09 and no one left there thinking I GOT HOSED by the rules ...Not like 08 when there was a bad fish smell in the air [no pun intended]... I am going to race by TOUR rules but doenst mean I think there is another forum to race with .Just because theres COOL AID avaliable doesnt mean you have to drink it ... Lata Playa

PS I shortened the list to not offend you

Katfish I hope you kknow the ROCKET has love for you ...I was only joking with ya BRO

Either way, Steve, you kept him quiet for 24 hours. LOL!

48 hrs and nothing ....

you can't argue with the truth! i'm phat ugly as sin and love me some koolaid

Got love for the Fried Katfish with Spicy Tartare Sauce YUM YUM .... Talk to ya soon .I was almost ready to send someone down their to see if you were still alive .Long live sustainable fishing practices.