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pink_sleeve 07-28-2009, 11:08 PM I'm sure it is. No doubt.
I look at it like 2wd mod... some guys run 10.5 and some run 7.5 but the lap time are VERY close. They just require different driving styles and setups. Sure you probably have much less traction with a CORR truck though.
Chris
I prefer to run a 13.5 in 2wheel while others run 10.5's and 4.5's :freak:
ccm399 07-28-2009, 11:08 PM That's cool...
Like I said I can buy a new motor....those Tekin motors look good...
Good point Doug!
ccm399 07-28-2009, 11:10 PM I prefer to run a 13.5 in 2wheel while others run 10.5's and 4.5's :freak:
Weren't you one of the ones with the 7.5 or 6.5 a couple years back?!??! LOL
Chris
pink_sleeve 07-28-2009, 11:11 PM That's cool...
Like I said I can buy a new motor....those Tekin motors look good...
Good point Doug!
This could be alot of fun if we all play by the RULES :devil:
pink_sleeve 07-28-2009, 11:12 PM Weren't you one of the ones with the 7.5 or 6.5 a couple years back?!??! LOL
Chris
I think i've grown up just a tad :rolleyes: :lol:
ccm399 07-28-2009, 11:13 PM Who doesn't play buy the rules?!?!?!?
I want a NO DOPING rule for the tires!!!! LOL
ccm399 07-28-2009, 11:14 PM I think i've grown up just a tad :rolleyes: :lol:
Too bad... you wheeled the heck out of that thing!
pink_sleeve 07-28-2009, 11:14 PM Who doesn't play buy the rules?!?!?!?
I want a NO DOPING rule for the tires!!!! LOL
:rolleyes: i can live with that ;)
badassrevo 07-28-2009, 11:14 PM I just took the 4600 out of my T4 and ran a 10.5 at the race out at State line and it was much easier to drive and more fun. It will not wheelie when ever I want though. LOL
badassrevo 07-28-2009, 11:15 PM :rolleyes: i can live with that ;)
me too!!!!:thumbsup:
ccm399 07-28-2009, 11:17 PM I just took the 4600 out of my T4 and ran a 10.5 at the race out at State line and it was much easier to drive and more fun. It will not wheelie when ever I want though. LOL
Tyler did the same thing last time we were out. He had some RIDICULOUSLY fast Tekin motor in his truck, he dropped to a 10.5 and went WAY faster on the track.
I might give my 10.5 a try in my RB5 next time out. Maybe the 8.5 is not the best choice.
badassrevo 07-28-2009, 11:19 PM I just ordered a 13.5 for my 2wd, but it looks like it will go in my SC10 and the 10.5 will go in my 2wd.
pink_sleeve 07-28-2009, 11:19 PM Tyler did the same thing last time we were out. He had some RIDICULOUSLY fast Tekin motor in his truck, he dropped to a 10.5 and went WAY faster on the track.
I might give my 10.5 a try in my RB5 next time out. Maybe the 8.5 is not the best choice.
I think a 13.5 might be the motor of choice. LOL Where are you running this weekend?
ccm399 07-28-2009, 11:21 PM I think a 13.5 might be the motor of choice. LOL Where are you running this weekend?
California?
I don't get in until early Saturday. I doubt Tina would be thrilled about me going to the track this weekend. Next weekend it's on though!
Chris
pink_sleeve 07-28-2009, 11:24 PM Oh I thought you was back now LOL
ccm399 07-28-2009, 11:26 PM Nah, just a little bored in the hotel room. And class was a little slow today. :)
4WD Racer 07-29-2009, 12:29 AM Ryan, great to hear from you and no doubt everyone's excited about the early start and getting together. :thumbsup:
Now about the gas thing earlier, I was laughing when it was added sportman buggy/truggy, then electric (lol) buggy & truggy, but yes, the point was made about about all those classes. True, hopefully eventually things will weed itself out, which usually seem to be the case.
Hey, I've always made a point to stick with 2wd mod & 4wd mod, (over stock, 19T, or superstock, or whatever) which always seemed to work well for me over the years. No need for special motors or the such, just run what you brought, long as it met the general 1/10th scale rule specifications set by ROAR/IFMAR far as weight, size, and all that. Works just fine, and no confusions for me there...ha :wave:
Bob Imbrigotta 07-29-2009, 01:08 AM I would run a mod CORR class. Perhaps when rules are decided someone could post what models and motors we could get. I would want to run a Mamba brushless and would need to know which would fit the class. Also legal tires, batteries etc.
pink_sleeve 07-29-2009, 01:26 AM Unfortunately there is no mamba system that would fit under the rules. They have been rumored to be working on a sensored 13.5 system from what I have heard. You can purchase a Novak 13.5 Havoc system for around 150 I think.... It was also brought to my attention that a battery rule is needed and I'm sure most would agree that the only battery stipulations is that it has to be a 6 cell nimh or 7.4v lipo. No 7 cell or 11.1v packs allowed!!! The allowed tires list should include any tire that comes on any of the given CORR trucks. The only other tires considered would be proline switches or bowties. There might be a few others out there that resemble a CORR style tread pattern. Absolutely no home made tires, cut tires, or slicks!!!
pink_sleeve 07-29-2009, 01:33 AM Trucks allowed for open would be allowed to be upgraded with hop up parts only in the open class. The trucks allowed to compete are the Traxxas Slash, Associated SC10, Team Losi Strike,and the HPI Blitz. NO 4wd trucks allowed!!!
Bob Imbrigotta 07-29-2009, 01:41 AM Thanks for the quick response; I can go shopping now!! I will wait on the motor/esc combo until things are set in stone.
pink_sleeve 07-29-2009, 01:50 AM I am about 75 percent sure that most will agree the motor limit will be 13.5. We should be able to come to an agreement on this I would think by the middle or the end of next week. As with a total approval list of tires and rules.
pink_sleeve 07-29-2009, 06:59 AM It sure would be cool to have an outlaw class with a no motor limit or tire rule to use these on the Slash
http://www.redrc.net/2009/07/aka-slash-18th-wheel-adaptors/
Scott54 07-29-2009, 09:18 AM Dan, nice job with taking this CORR Truck issue on so early. Sure beats addressing it after the start of indoor. As for Castle coming out with a 13.5 sensored motor, it will be a LONG time before it's ever released. I'm willing to bet the D2 comes out first. However, Castle does have new motors coming out that are ROAR legal (for mod) because they rebuildable with replaceable bearings and rotors, but they will not be sensored. Those will be available mid-August.
pink_sleeve 07-29-2009, 09:20 AM Dan, nice job with taking this CORR Truck issue on so early. Sure beats addressing it after the start of indoor. As for Castle coming out with a 13.5 sensored motor, it will be a LONG time before it's ever released. I'm willing to bet the D2 comes out first. However, Castle does have new motors coming out that are ROAR legal (for mod) because they rebuildable with replaceable bearings and rotors, but they will not be sensored. Those will be available mid-August.
Thanks Scott.....
I think it should be a spec RTR class. They are all around $200 RTR, all pretty much handle the same, and all run about the same speed. Losi came out with the Strike to compete heads up with the Slash not have a class of their own. Nobody wants to buy an RTR SC10, Strike, or Blitz then have to dump maybe $200 on a brushless just to race it. They are all RTR and should all run together in my opinion..... Most people that run RTR's are just starting out and is the truck really gonna make that big of a difference for a beginner? The Slash might not handle as good as the SC10, but the SC10 is nowhere near as durable as the Slash so they all have trade offs. Thats why i say let all the RTR's just run together!!! That's why they are all called SCT's. Besides if somebody wants to cherry pick in the SPEC class then let them have there 2 months of glory (cough cough Jason) Because i'm sure if we run an OPEN class most will move over to that anyways because i'm sure the racers want to run there choice of chassis :rolleyes:
pink_sleeve 07-29-2009, 09:21 AM Does anybody have an RTR SC10 that could come to the track on a Monday so we could compare lap times?
Scott54 07-29-2009, 09:23 AM Good points. Plus that way I could run the Blitz box-stock prior to getting a 13.5 for the open class.
pink_sleeve 07-29-2009, 09:25 AM Good points. Plus that way I could run the Blitz box-stock prior to getting a 13.5 for the open class.
I just wish everybody would open there eyes and see what i see :rolleyes: LMAO
So it will be the BLITZ of HAZZARD this year :lol::eek:
pink_sleeve 07-29-2009, 09:29 AM Oh..... I think the Blitz and D2 will be released the same day maybe
Nevermind there's no such thing as a D2 and thats why they took it off the site ;):lol:
Scott54 07-29-2009, 09:34 AM So it will be the BLITZ of HAZZARD this year :lol::eek:
NO WAY!!! I think that made my truck a TARGET last year. BOX STOCK PAINT this year.
FNlewis 07-29-2009, 09:59 AM A posiable cure for the cherry picking,Do the ABM system have a break out program in it, I dont think the sc10 is that much faster than the slash, and is a ball diff leagal in the sc10,or do you have to run the stock gear diff?
badassrevo 07-29-2009, 11:26 AM The gear diff will have to be run in the RTR class. Open is open
ccm399 07-29-2009, 11:28 AM I like the Blitz diff.... :) I think I would rather deal with different oils then maintaining the ball diff.
badassrevo 07-29-2009, 11:31 AM My BFast diff will last as long as a gear diff!!
ccm399 07-29-2009, 11:32 AM Good point!
badassrevo 07-29-2009, 12:01 PM I know Dan posted this before, but this is what we are in for, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KIDvdVtMKk
ccm399 07-29-2009, 12:06 PM Those are running 13.5's ?????? The orange one in particular? Oh, is the orange truck and SC10 or Slash?
By the way that looks like a BLAST!!!!!!!!!
cbrociuos 07-29-2009, 12:12 PM Those are running 13.5's ?????? The orange one in particular? Oh, is the orange truck and SC10 or Slash?
By the way that looks like a BLAST!!!!!!!!!
the caption in the video says novac 8.5. i guess thats the orange one. in the open class do you need a motor limit? if you have too much motor you wont have enough traction to use it, that will make you run slower lap times.
ccm399 07-29-2009, 12:21 PM the caption in the video says novac 8.5. i guess thats the orange one. in the open class do you need a motor limit? if you have too much motor you wont have enough traction to use it, that will make you run slower lap times.
I did not see the caption thanks for point that out. So to be clear IF we set a motor limit of 13.5 that's NOT what we are in for. Correct?
I agree with your statement about the motor limit. I would think open should mean open but I guess we are in the minority on that one. :o
I do not believe they had any motor limit out at the Slash Nats in CT... I know it wasn't a ROAR race but neither are the races around here. Most of the fast guys were running 8.5's and some were running 10.5's.
Just like 2wd mod or Mod truck some guys WAY over motor and are only fast down the shoot. I am good either way I guess but in the end I don't understand the limit.
Chris
cbrociuos 07-29-2009, 12:43 PM my thing is alot of guys dont have a 13.5 or a sensored speed control to run a 13.5. at another track this summer people were running stock slashes w/ the mods because people had them over motored and stock was keeping pace. the corr tires will only let you use so much power and if you have a 4600 or a 7.5 or what ever your going to have to turn it down anyhow or you wont be competitive due to lack of traction. the tires are going to be the limiting factor far more so than what size motor your running. thats my opinion.
ccm399 07-29-2009, 01:37 PM That is a great point. Anyone with a Castle system would not be allowed to run if there is any kind of motor limit.
The tires will be the equalizer like you said. I have to say after watching the video I am more excited about an Open CORR class. And even less excited about a motor limit.
I am in the same boat if there is a 13.5 limit as I do not have a 13.5 I have a 10.5 and an 8.5. I might be getting some new equipment soon though so it's not a huge deal.
4WD Racer 07-29-2009, 03:38 PM Letting everyone know that I almost got a CORR trucks for myself and Suz each, (the spec from Traxxas was the one we wanted to go with exculisevely), then we found out there was a open CORR, and mod CORR class on top of the spec CORR class at some of the other track, then that pretty much ended our decision to get one in the first place.
Don't want to worry about extra motors, tires, shocks, just to be competitive etc. That is taking away from what the spec CORR was intented to be in the first place.
So we are just waiting things out, but mostly interested in the Traxxas spec CORR class, where you don't have to worry about upgrades or the such.
That class was supposed to be a fun alternative to running the 2wd mod & 4wd mod classes that I run on the side with the sponsors and support I get for it over the years.
I'm sure it (the CORR class) will be fun at Astabula, but you guys get the idea. It seem like everyone here has the right idea about the class being fun.
I'm willing to reconsider though, but I really want the spec concept, (controlled part) and stay away from the mod and open part. I think the traxxas CORR is great to start with, and would love to see it being the BIGGEST and the most FUN class out there now, (just clash around, have fun, not worry about winning, and laughing with everyone while running them on the track) but I'm just a bit somewhat confused with things the way it seem to be out there is all for now.
ccm399 07-29-2009, 03:49 PM Letting everyone know that I almost got a CORR trucks for myself and Suz each, (the spec from Traxxas was the one we wanted to go with exculisevely), then we found out there was a open CORR, and mod CORR class on top of the spec CORR class at some of the other track, then that pretty much ended our decision to get one in the first place.
Don't want to worry about extra motors, tires, shocks, just to be competitive etc. That is taking away from what the spec CORR was intented to be in the first place.
So we are just waiting things out, but mostly interested in the Traxxas spec CORR class, where you don't have to worry about upgrades or the such.
That class was supposed to be a fun alternative to running the 2wd mod & 4wd mod classes that I run on the side with the sponsors and support I get for it over the years.
I'm sure it (the CORR class) will be fun at Astabula, but you guys get the idea. It seem like everyone here has the right idea about the class being fun.
I'm willing to reconsider though, but I really want the spec concept, (controlled part) and stay away from the mod and open part. I think the traxxas CORR is great to start with, and would love to see it being the BIGGEST and the most FUN class out there now, (just clash around, have fun, not worry about winning, and laughing with everyone while running them on the track) but I'm just a bit somewhat confused with things the way it seem to be out there is all for now.
No one is suggesting you have to run the open class nor has anyone said the RTR class would be going away.
If you want run the RTR class with a Slash with no mods GO FOR IT! That's the idea! Those that want to run the RTR truck can do so with VERY little cost. If you want to run Open with a little extra power you can too!
Chris
4WD Racer 07-29-2009, 04:44 PM Sounds good to me Chris, & I know it has to be a fun class to try! :thumbsup:
egarrett 07-29-2009, 09:16 PM I just picked up a thunder chicken s3 eb4 and am dying to get it on a track!!
It has been years since I have actually raced offroad!! I may stop out Monday and check out the track, I hope there are still enough gas guys to run with in Oct.!!
shake n bake
pink_sleeve 07-29-2009, 10:51 PM Look Scott they've changed the date :rolleyes:
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/products_id/149122/n/HPI-Blitz-2WD-Electric-RTR-Short-Course-Truck-w-Maxxis-Body
pink_sleeve 07-29-2009, 11:55 PM If anybody wants anew Slash i have one for $150 OBO. The body has been used 3 or 4 tires but i don't have any tires or wheels for it. If you want just the truck with no electronics i'd take $100 OBO. Number stickers can be peeled off.... If anyones interested PM me
pink_sleeve 07-30-2009, 06:30 AM Will this year mark the return of Jo Jo Fry?
Scott54 07-30-2009, 10:07 AM Will this year mark the return of Jo Jo Fry?
Well due to that alone, we might as well make the mod CORR class open because how are we going to keep up with JO JO FRY motors??!!!! :thumbsup:
Scott54 07-30-2009, 10:08 AM Look Scott they've changed the date :rolleyes:
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/products_id/149122/n/HPI-Blitz-2WD-Electric-RTR-Short-Course-Truck-w-Maxxis-Body
No.... not HPI, they would NEVER do that... :freak:
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