Troy Meridith ran a 3.0 at Minnreg in practice and speeds were great - 3.5s and finishing on 3.7s. These were 3 tenths faster than the fast 17.5 2S cars... run-time good, speed looked good, interesting for sure!!!

http://thunder.rcresults.com/2009FCCSummerOval/practice/2499574_Open_Practice.html
(look toward end of page)

Here is a random 17.5 practice:
http://thunder.rcresults.com/2009FCCSummerOval/practice/Dave_Puliafico_7590412_Open_Practice.html

Good for a headache haha


The 7.5 looks like it's going to need some help...

1s/open mod! :thumbsup:

1s/open mod! :thumbsup:

Open Mod as in Open motor no wind limit....I second that :thumbsup:

So it seems like it is a perfect replacment for 17.5 2C...Which is exactly what it was intended for.

Joel White

Troy Meridith ran a 3.0 at Minnreg in practice and speeds were great - 3.5s and finishing on 3.7s. These were 3 tenths faster than the fast 17.5 2S cars... run-time good, speed looked good, interesting for sure!!!

http://thunder.rcresults.com/2009FCCSummerOval/practice/2499574_Open_Practice.html
(look toward end of page)

Here is a random 17.5 practice:
http://thunder.rcresults.com/2009FCCSummerOval/practice/Dave_Puliafico_7590412_Open_Practice.html


lmao thanks for the random 17.5 practice.

Was that an "Open" 1c battery pack or an SMC 1c in Meridiths car?

Troy Meridith ran a 3.0 at Minnreg in practice and speeds were great - 3.5s and finishing on 3.7s. These were 3 tenths faster than the fast 17.5 2S cars... run-time good, speed looked good, interesting for sure!!!

http://thunder.rcresults.com/2009FCCSummerOval/practice/2499574_Open_Practice.html
(look toward end of page)

Here is a random 17.5 practice:
http://thunder.rcresults.com/2009FCCSummerOval/practice/Dave_Puliafico_7590412_Open_Practice.html

What wind motor with the single cell? :confused:

I think it is a 3.0 Turn. It looks like a few winds need to come off those 7.5.

Troy ran a Fantom 40c and 3.0 motor...

Any issues with coming close to dumping? I think earlier this summer they were testing 1s and 4.5 motors at Easley(cap tire track), and had issues with dumping. After dumping it once, it killed the runtime in the pack (sound familiar? lol). The 1s open motor class would be cool at the big races, as long as it doesn't become an issue of dumping, and killing packs.

How did the 7.5/1s run? What were the issues that need work for that class?

My 7.5 ran good.. ran about .05 off my 17.5 car at the same time of the day. Didn't get to play with timing, gearing, or car setup (was a backup car) so felt real good for just a little bit of running with it. With a little tweaking it will be almost same I think as 17.5 2S, IMHO...

Troy ran 4 mins a couple runs in open mod and ended on 3.7s so that is good. First time I have got to see open 1S and it looked great. Troy ran a 7.5 a couple runs and hit a 3.8, which was good too. Just a whole new ballgame with gearing and timing, but overall promising! I saw Troy hit the pack over and over for open mod and never seemed to lose runtime or speed.

The 7.5 looks like it's going to need some help...

How so? The 7.5 class sounds just fine to me. I can't see why we'd really want something .3 faster (probably .5 faster in a different circumstance) than 17.5 2s. It'd be just another mod class with 5-10 entries and very little quality racing.

Saturday night when the track went to oval... I made a couple runs on the 7.5 1S (Backup car, guess at gearing, timing etc):
http://thunder.rcresults.com/2009FCCSummerOval/practice/Mike_Boylan_3321545_Open_Practice.html

Then I threw my main other car out in 17.5... these first few practices was right after the 1S test (same track conditions) and I ran about .05 faster (at 1:29 and 1:53 and under the name JR):
http://thunder.rcresults.com/2009FCCSummerOval/practice/JR_Mitch_4975126_Open_Practice.html

Seems the 7.5 was about 2 to 3 tenths quicker on than the fast 21.5s on average throughout a run. And what I am hearing is 10.5 1S is a hair slower than 21.5 2S? So a 3 tenth split between 13.5, 10.5, 7.5, and open couple be very possible.

My 1s car did push and I think with the lighter car I could have done more to get steering through the corner (had a black RF on it and it was offest). Definetely needed to spend some time trying less wedge and spring changes.... but had to get the main car ready haha. Less voltage probably needs more timing too??? Motors stay cool and with less voltage, they have less RPM. I had motor at 0... Billy Bruce ran 3.8s but faught a speedo problem or something so he didn't get a lot of laps - and Troy Meridith ran a 7.5 and hit some 3.8s too. But he went to open mod and only ran it once or twice I think.

7.5 looks perfect

How so? The 7.5 class sounds just fine to me. I can't see why we'd really want something .3 faster (probably .5 faster in a different circumstance) than 17.5 2s. It'd be just another mod class with 5-10 entries and very little quality racing.


How so? The Florida guys don't like stock speeds, that's why we run 2 cell 17.5 lipo as are regular class. I myself though the 7.5 was slow as did many others... We don't have the "bull ring style" carpet tracks in FL that can't hold 2 cell 17.5 speeds. We also have a decent group of drivers that like the faster classes.. Why do we need to slow ARE cars down?

Why spend another $150-200 bucks to go 2 tenths slower...? Doesn't make much sense to me. 2 1 cells, motors, ext...

1 cell open mod looks like it's going to work though. I didn't see Meridith have any issues at all with his 3.0 He ran the TP rec pack too.

So 7.5 was the same speed as the class you're running now but you're knocking it as slow as balls? Why aren't all you guys running 13.5 2 cell than?

lol ok it's not that slow, but slower then I would like to go. Hows that?

My opinion was only from watching a few of them run... I didn't get to drive one.

I would love to run 13.5 2 cell if the others were down.

It was a tough test... we had close to 30 cars running 17.5 2S and the class is strong down here. When we are racing for .1's, many thought it would jump out and lead happy hour. But something so new, with such little track time, will take some time to learn. I bet the 1st few time we ran 17.5 it was slower than today's speeds. Again I thought the very limited test went perfect for the 1st time. More to be done of course.... but at least wanted to share what was done.

Thats cool, I'd like to see 1c open mod sometimes too, but I think weekly for most of the country 7.5 is going to be perfect :thumbsup:

Interesting note I did run one of practices with Jerry Parrott who was one of the fastest all weekend. I could run with him middle of the straight to the end of the straight. He was getting me off the corner just a bit, maybe a car length a corner. This could be the less punch, or just my car being tight off? But speed wise I felt very very close on the straights...

It must have been fast then Mike cause guys were running around all weekend thinking Parrott was cheating ( which he wasn't) ... Just a rumor I heard lol


I missed that run though..

Parrott wasn't cheating. He had his stuff in one sock. and when you do that you get a fast good handling car.

Seems the 7.5 was about 2 to 3 tenths quicker on than the fast 21.5s on average throughout a run. And what I am hearing is 10.5 1S is a hair slower than 21.5 2S? So a 3 tenth split between 13.5, 10.5, 7.5, and open couple be very possible.[/QUOTE]

mike, last week i ran 1 cell 10.5 against 21.5 2 cell
i went just about as fast as i went last year. the only difference is we dont run much on the carpet up here in the summertime so i think the track was off by at least half a lap. with that being said i think would be able to do 68 lap run at marshalls with a 1 cell 10.5 which i was only able to do a few last year in 21.5. i also didnt touch my set up at all from 21.5

Ok.. I take what I said back. I got to run the 7.5 1 cell deal today. check out the lap times..
Scroll down to 17.5. Boylan and I ran 1 c 7.5

http://thunder.rcresults.com/07-26-2009/


It was a small turn out, we had rain and lost some racers. It was a good test day though...

How so? The Florida guys don't like stock speeds, that's why we run 2 cell 17.5 lipo as are regular class. I myself though the 7.5 was slow as did many others... We don't have the "bull ring style" carpet tracks in FL that can't hold 2 cell 17.5 speeds. We also have a decent group of drivers that like the faster classes.. Why do we need to slow ARE cars down?

Why spend another $150-200 bucks to go 2 tenths slower...? Doesn't make much sense to me. 2 1 cells, motors, ext...

What exactly are ARE cars, I've never raced one of those?

Being serious for a second, I like many in the Midwest race on bigger tracks than you. As far as your "decent group of drivers" comment, enough people who know me and know where I race are already snickering at that that I don't need to reply.

If Boylan was only half a tenth off with a car he just threw down in a class he has never run before it says to me that the class will be at least as fast as 17.5 2s in the long run.

I'm sure there will probably be an open mod offered at Snowbirds, as there should be. With everything else being so slow for you I'm sure you'll be running mod and putting it in the show! I hope I can be there this year to see it!

Pat how about this.. instead of running your mouth/finger's on the net you should show up and race.

It's been awhil since I have seen your name on any results.. But your still around hobby talk to spew your crap lol

Yeah I'll be at the birds, and I put money on having your punk azz covered.

Test today was 10 out of 10. Speeds were fast - motors were consistant. Preston ran crazy different gears and timing each run, so did I. Motors stayed around 150-160, it was 95 outside and hot. I got one to 200 one time still ran 1 tenth off from beginning. Not sure when the last time someone ran 58 at MTR but David did today - that is great. We had rain in the AM so track lost sugar, and we haven't raced in a couple weeks so track is always off like this... I was very happy with the speeds. Also seemed a little easy off the corner with the lower voltage which might make car setup easier for some... and tire wear seemed great. We ran 25C and 40C - hard to tell... and played with booster and receiver pack - both seemed to run the same. ONE THING for sure with faster motors you have to have something in the car (booster or rec pack). Car will run half speed if receiver pack goes dead or not run anything. 150MAH might need recharging each run but I hear LiPo has more runtime... then again Dave's booster was flawless and seems a good route too. 4000s had no problem with runtime. That's it for now. But for a good replacement of 17.5 2S speeds this is close... a big thanks to Dave helping with the test - it was good to have 2 fast cars trying different gears, setups, running them hard and getting lots of laps.

Todays main results: Dave and I in 7.5 1S:
http://thunder.rcresults.com/07-26-2009/html/175_LiPo_PROA_Main.html

Few weeks ago 17.5 2S:
http://thunder.rcresults.com/07-05-2009/html/LiPo_175A_Main.html

please keep the lap times relative though...

MTR = bull ring like up north so lap times will be close or in time even better the lack of rip in the corner onlyhelps on low bite tracks...

minnreg is high in grip and larger and is a good track for real speed conditions...

i would bet that a 1s 7.5 combo at superior will dominate 17.5 2 cell for lack of bite

bring that same combo to stricklands and i bet the 17.5 2 cell combo will be a touch faster..due to the lack of any real time with a 1 cell car set-up and roll out ...

do i think 7.5 1 cell will be fun? yes sir! if it's a tenth slower or faster that is fine with me...it does seem like the booster or receiver pack must work correctly or your run is ruined.

put some gear on it!!! 4.0-16 with 3 laps to go.
i'll put money on it that somebody goes atleast 66 laps at the ovalmasters with 7.5 (a lap faster) than 17.5 2 cell did last year on that little tight track at greeneville

Pat how about this.. instead of running your mouth/finger's on the net you should show up and race.

It's been awhil since I have seen your name on any results.. But your still around hobby talk to spew your crap lol

Yeah I'll be at the birds, and I put money on having your punk azz covered.

I'm not cocky enough to say I'll beat anyone at any given race. If you get me I'll buy ya a beer. :) Oval Masters will be more likely than Snowbirds though. Hope you've been refining that Greenville setup!

P.S. I've shown up and raced in 10+ different states in the last couple years. Surprised I haven't bumped into you. I guess I just keep missing the Florida club shows. :)

lol Pat your funny...


Again, you should sign up for a race or two every now and then slacker. Then you can throw all the jabs you want lmao

And don't blame it on Obama.. I hear you love to make excuses.

I wanted to put 2 more teeth on the 7.5, but I didn't want to burn up that test motor.. I had trouble making a full run at the begining, but we got it figured out by the end of the day.

thats why its a test motor. you gotta find out how far you can push it before it pops and sizzles so the rest of us dont

I got mine at 225 at Minnreg running too long, car that pushed, and too much gear haha and it survived - same one I ran Sunday. Not bad....

Could this be a class that The Tour will offer?????????

As far as track size, Minnreg "Carpet", MTR "Asphalt" the tracks are the same size in lenght. The infield is 2feet narrower at Minnreg.

4.0 at MTR, and 3.8 at Minnreg - how can that be Kenny :tongue:

Traction Baby!!

Traction Baby!!
yes sir!

It must have been fast then Mike cause guys were running around all weekend thinking Parrott was cheating ( which he wasn't) ... Just a rumor I heard lol


I missed that run though..

wow!!! REALLY

We are running 2cell 6.5 up here. We used to run 4 cell 3.5 but run time issues with the 4600's didn't make it any fun. The 5000 smc works just fine with no dumping issues. I'd like to try single cell mod but not a fan with all the issues running them(booster or rec pack needed) and not enough left side wieght.

wow!!! REALLY


more than likey not Jerry just preston stirring the pot like he likes to do.

Well I like smack talk so Preston and Pat bring it to the Oval Masters and my boy will whip both your a$$es and he has some for you too Pull! :tongue: lmao

I talk big for him since I am to slow...roflmao!:wave:

Well I like smack talk so Preston and Pat bring it to the Oval Masters and my boy will whip both your a$ and he has some for you too Pull! :tongue: lmao

I talk big for him since I am to slow...roflmao!:wave:

Now there is something that actually does have a good (or any) chance of happening! :)

don't make me run a truck again

more than likey not Jerry just preston stirring the pot like he likes to do.

Dave can you read? I knew Jerry wasn't doing anything shandy cause I was just as fast on old stuff lol

It didn't come from my mouth, I must have heard that shizit 10 times before I left Sunday. I seriously doubt Jerry would do that crap anyway.. That's were the (which he wasn't) came from..

If I were you I would keep wreching Pull cause your a lap off everywhere we go.