View Full Version : Jupiter 2 Figure Sets from Crow's nest models
drewid142 07-22-2009, 09:41 PM Hi Folks!
I thought i should let y'all have a look at the figures in progress! I will have them ready some time in the early fall so this time folks can work on the figures while they are waiting with great anticipation for their Jupiter 2 Kits!
I'm waiting on my test shot to do some fit tests, but I am way ahead... assuming the fits all work as i have planned.
3 sets... Available Early Fall '09 Price not yet determined
. Set 1 - Silver Suits in Freezing Tubes (no robot)
. Set 2 - Silver Suits in assorted poses with Robot
. Set3 - Daily Uniforms in assorted poses with Robot
Assorted poses currently include duplicate John and Will to allow for a variety of combinations, and poses have been designed to work in many different situations... hands on chair back, on wall, on astrogator, and some hands on each others backs.
Here's a look at the sculpts in progress!
Arms will be already attached... but i am working with them separated for sculpting reasons... also... I can adjust for subtle measurement issues with the fit to seats and astrogator and such by waiting to attach the arms until I have a test shot.
I am using Apoxie paste and aluminum foil for the silver suits... the daily uniforms will be sculpted cloth folds, and the hair will be done similar to the Flying Sub and Chariot figures.
www.crowsnestmodels.com
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Steve H 07-22-2009, 10:15 PM OH NO! The Jupiter 2 has been taken over by DELTANS! They's all bald and smooth and stuff! :)
So, are you gonna carve into the 'utility clothing' versions the color patterns of the 3rd season outfits? Or just the general details such as collar shapes and such like?
Nicely done, I think these will look GREAT with the kit!
hal9001 07-22-2009, 11:03 PM Always wondered what June Lockhart looked like in the buff, now I know!
Thanks-
oshkosh619 07-23-2009, 05:51 AM Always wondered what June Lockhart looked like in the buff, now I know!
Thanks-
Man, it's kinda creepy seeing Dr. Smith "au natural" standing behind Will.... makes one think of that Simpson's episode... "DANGER Bart Simpson! DANGER!!!" :freak:
Perhaps it's a new spin on the old series... "Nudist Family Robinsons".... or "Lost in the Maytag"
robiwon 07-23-2009, 09:03 AM Wow, those look great so far! Definately need the both sets of the posed figures.
Lou Dalmaso 07-23-2009, 09:12 AM that's great work! but the pics kinda creeped me out
woof359 07-23-2009, 10:05 AM looking good, guess i wood get lynyched if i asked where the black rubber flight suits with oval patch are......................
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Rattrap 07-23-2009, 01:38 PM The rubber suits were nice. The women they were on was nicer. The movie they were in... :confused:
drewid142 07-23-2009, 07:14 PM I should have known most of the comments would be about the freakie stuff!
Steve... yes I'm going to try my hand at detailing the daily/utility uniforms... we'll see how that goes at this scale.
I'm not going to post pics of each character at each stage of development all over the place like I did with the Chariot development... but I will post a whole bunch of WIP shots at the end... I just wanted to show folks what the poses were so they could start to think about them! I expect them to be available in early October or so. After the Proteus, they are my highest priority right now. I am soooo looking forward to this Jupiter 2 kit!
Cheers and thanks for looking!
Drew
Steve H 07-23-2009, 08:13 PM I wonder, any thought of 'space helmet' parts for John, Don and Maureen (spacesuit, posed)?
It would probably be tricky as it wouldn't be just a headswap. You've got the orange quilted 'breast and back', the helmet, the tanks..say, here's a thought. Maybe that gentleman who has been doing the superb decal work for these kits, maybe he can do the 'breast and back' as decals, and you do the helmets and tanks!
I figure solid faceplates, no sense trying to work a face in there when most would likely just paint the visor black or silver or something.
yeah, listen to me, tossing more work on you, sorry. :) Just an idea I had there.
falcondesigns 07-23-2009, 08:24 PM One of the things I found dissapointing about the FS,and the Chariot figures,was the lack of face recongition.The computer can only do so much then it's up to the sculptor to bring it to life.The two figures in the Aurora/Monogram are clearly Nelson and Crain allthough they are not exact likeness of the actors.I would have liked that level of detail in these figures.alexander
drewid142 07-23-2009, 10:36 PM I'll try to do better Falcon... but at 1/32 scale these guys are small. I don't think there are too many sculptors that can take it much further and I think for their scale they were way better than similar products offered in years past. I have seen some amazingly accurate and life-like sculpts in the 1/12 scale and larger, but down in the 24 and 32 zone there is not a lot of room for even the tiniest of tools. No doubt someone could do better than I have... the Chariot figures were my very first offering... I think I actually got better by the time I did the Flying Sub Figures and I hope to really nail the clothes and hair on these Jupiter 2 figures. The faces will be as scaled down versions of the Chariot figures, which I actually thought were pretty good... but you are right... there is always room for improvement and I know I have seen better... but maybe not at 1/32 or 1/35 scale.
falcondesigns 07-24-2009, 12:25 AM Thank you for taking my post not as critical, but as an observation.
hal9001 07-24-2009, 01:17 AM Drew,
I don't think most people on this site would expect figures in this scale to actually look like the Robinson family, I know I wouldn't. As do I think most here are just glad to have a GOOD set of figures to go with our kits. I think you've done a fine job with them and can't wait to get some for all my LIS kits.
Carl-
Dr. Brad 07-24-2009, 02:23 AM I should have known most of the comments would be about the freakie stuff!
Yup. You kinda walked right into those. :) But thanks for posting the pics. The figures will be great!
John P 07-24-2009, 09:32 AM Not pickin' on ya, Drew, but have you seen Andrea Miniatures 1/35 scale figures of famous people and movie characters? Bang-on likenesses of whoever they're modeling. I have no idea how they do it. But I absolutely understand that you're doing your best for us, and you're doing damn good for your first efforts, and that's honestly good enough for me.
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drewid142 07-24-2009, 09:59 AM I've seen them and they are fantastic. I guess I should take it as a compliment that we are discussing the finest likenesses at 1/35 scale. I'll do my best, folks! I think they are turning out pretty darned cool and the response I have gotten from the Chariot and FS figures has pumped me up to really do these J2 Figs right. I could point out that those Andrea figs run around 30plus dollars for a single figure, but I don't think that is really the point. I'm a guy with a day job trying to have some fun making a cool product... one that would satisfy me... sadly, I end up so busy making these figure products I never ever have time to build the kits that I myself would have wanted the figures for in the first place. I think many of us know that story well enough... but I'm getting it done.
Thanks for the "encouragement". I'll keep on it and do my best.
Cheers
Drew
kdaracal 07-24-2009, 10:34 AM Amazing work! Thanks for making it possible for us to get a hold of such great aftermarket figures. I'm new to this rebirth of products. I'm still blown away that these kits are getting to production AND folks such as yourself are producing great and much needed details kits. I can still remember the day I rode my bicycle up to a store called Woolco, (subsidiary to Woolworth's??) in the Midwest, and finding the Aurora Flying Sub and Spindrift on the shelf at the same time and not having the extra $7.00 to buy both. Then, racing home, sack flopping on the handlebars, and feverishly ripping my prize open to get started on my build....
Thanks goes out to JAI and CN!
Loyal Customer
Steve H 07-24-2009, 01:10 PM Throwing my two cents in, and echoing something I said in another thread:
I think trying to capture exact likenesses would be a mistake on scales this small. Most builders won't have the skill to take advantage of that and frankly, I don't think it LOOKS that good in execution. Now, granted, my discontent is fueled mostly by examples of actors captured by laser scanning (the new thing to be done) because they end up looking odd, lifeless, and just bad. Maybe faces sculpted by hand would look reasonable, but it's not NECESSARY. Not at these scales (1/24, 1/35). And as I said, it takes a good deal of skill to paint a figure and take advantage of that kind of facial detail. during my 'armor' years I got pretty good at painting Tamiya 1/35 scale figures but I never put in the skill and time with them as I did the tanks and such. Figure painters lived in their own world. :)
With armor kits figures generally were used to give some scale to a diorama, or a sense of moment. They weren't the focus. If I may, that's the way I think of Drew's figures. There's another thread where a gentleman had just finished his Chariot kit, using a set of Drew's figures for same, and it just LIVES because the figures give the kit scale and life and just complete it. (and man, does the Chariot get full with the addition of Dr. Smith and the Robot instead of just the 'original crew'!)
Same thing with the Flying Sub builds. That thing just looks naked without figures in the seats, because that's how we always saw it on TV. I'm sorry that for the various stated reasons Moebius doesn't include figures, but that's why Drew has stepped up.
And there IS the potential issue of running into legal trouble if he DID make photo-realistic likenesses. In this day and age you never know.
And I have an idea that he may end up doing further sets of figures for the Jupiter 2, just because there's so much potential. :)
Gilusions 07-29-2009, 11:33 AM Throwing my two cents in, and echoing something I said in another thread:
I think trying to capture exact likenesses would be a mistake on scales this small. Most builders won't have the skill to take advantage of that and frankly, I don't think it LOOKS that good in execution. Now, granted, my discontent is fueled mostly by examples of actors captured by laser scanning (the new thing to be done) because they end up looking odd, lifeless, and just bad. Maybe faces sculpted by hand would look reasonable, but it's not NECESSARY. Not at these scales (1/24, 1/35). And as I said, it takes a good deal of skill to paint a figure and take advantage of that kind of facial detail. during my 'armor' years I got pretty good at painting Tamiya 1/35 scale figures but I never put in the skill and time with them as I did the tanks and such. Figure painters lived in their own world. :)
With armor kits figures generally were used to give some scale to a diorama, or a sense of moment. They weren't the focus. If I may, that's the way I think of Drew's figures. There's another thread where a gentleman had just finished his Chariot kit, using a set of Drew's figures for same, and it just LIVES because the figures give the kit scale and life and just complete it. (and man, does the Chariot get full with the addition of Dr. Smith and the Robot instead of just the 'original crew'!)
Same thing with the Flying Sub builds. That thing just looks naked without figures in the seats, because that's how we always saw it on TV. I'm sorry that for the various stated reasons Moebius doesn't include figures, but that's why Drew has stepped up.
And there IS the potential issue of running into legal trouble if he DID make photo-realistic likenesses. In this day and age you never know.
And I have an idea that he may end up doing further sets of figures for the Jupiter 2, just because there's so much potential. :)
I agree with Steve H,
Having figures on a model kit that looks like the exact can cause trouble. By having this set as an option for for us is a benefit for us who wants to add to the model. And with the J-2 coming out I can only imagine when you look at the front view port with your choice of placement of the figures the enhancement you get. Me I am going to look for more information on figure painting so when I have a set that don't do the eyes cross eyed!
With that said I hope that the one's that have the talent on painting figures will share some of their technical wisdom on the figure impaired as my self.
I can see some licensing issues with exact faces.
I've also spent so much time over the years carving-off details and changing uniforms of various figures because the scale/pose was right, the naked figure idea as a template is actually pretty cool.
dgtrekker 07-29-2009, 01:57 PM Very cool I look forward to getting them!
drewid142 11-02-2009, 11:02 PM I sold some stocks to pay casters and such, and I HAVE TAKEN THE NEXT WEEK OFF OF WORK to get these J2 Figures and a few other projects completed! I'm thinking of it as vacation, but I will be working my butt off the rest of the week!
Freezer tube figures turned out cool and have already been molded... the rest of the figures will be in casting by the end of the week... along with some repairs to the Proteus masters and some other "problems"
I'm also buying a new camera tomorrow... will post pics of the Freezer tube figures soon.
Cheers
Drew
Crow's Nest Models
jbond 11-03-2009, 12:22 AM Proteus!
liskorea317 11-07-2009, 08:13 AM The Chariot figures are great! I was lucky enough to get a set. Did you ever release the Jet Pack figures? I would get that in a heart beat.
Any plans for a John & Don set for the Space pod?
Mike
drewid142 11-07-2009, 05:38 PM Yes... Jetpack had a problem with the Penny figure and it fell onto back burner... the fixed part will be in the caster's hands this week and the jetpack will finally go into production.
Large quantities of the Chariot figures will be available over the next few months, and I will have a few 1/24 Pods figures done for Wonderfest.
Right now my hands are full getting the Proteus kit, Ultimate Spindrift Stand, and Jupiter 2 figures into Production. I had hoped to re-launch the site about now with everything in stock... but that moment is coming soon... everyting always takes way more time that I thought... but everything is moving forward. I took the last week off from the day job to get all these loose ends fixed and I am getting a lot of stuff done!
Thanks for asking!
Drew
liskorea317 11-08-2009, 02:16 AM Great! At least everything is in the works! I don't mind the wait as your stuff is that good and worth the extra time. I'll just keep an eye on your site!
Thanks
Mike
John P 11-08-2009, 10:09 AM My wallet stands ready!
beatlepaul 11-08-2009, 10:14 AM Looking Forward To The J2 Figures Sir!
Fernando Mureb 11-08-2009, 11:27 AM Looking Forward To The J2 Figures Sir!
Me too. Thanks.
LIS FAN 4ever 11-08-2009, 11:11 PM Drew - I know when the figures are ready - they will be awesome!
Hope you are well - Gary
Seaview 11-08-2009, 11:23 PM PayPal is warmed up and ready to go when the word is given! :hat:
liskorea317 12-16-2009, 08:19 PM I've seen them and they are fantastic. I guess I should take it as a compliment that we are discussing the finest likenesses at 1/35 scale. I'll do my best, folks! I think they are turning out pretty darned cool and the response I have gotten from the Chariot and FS figures has pumped me up to really do these J2 Figs right. I could point out that those Andrea figs run around 30plus dollars for a single figure, but I don't think that is really the point. I'm a guy with a day job trying to have some fun making a cool product... one that would satisfy me... sadly, I end up so busy making these figure products I never ever have time to build the kits that I myself would have wanted the figures for in the first place. I think many of us know that story well enough... but I'm getting it done.
Thanks for the "encouragement". I'll keep on it and do my best.
Cheers
Drew
Drew, Is there a release schedule for these figures?:wave:
drewid142 12-16-2009, 08:37 PM well, I guess that depends on how we define schedule.
They have been in the casters hands for a while. I should get Freezing Tube figures pretty soon, and hopefully soon after that the assorted figures will be ready. I had hoped to have them ready BEFORE the J2 was released, but I can't blame the caster on that... my day job has been really tough and I didn't get them to the caster until about 6 weeks ago, and he is slammed with the Proteus and some other stuff...
So... soon... no worries, though... they ARE coming and they look swell! I will post pics as soon as I get the first castings... pics of the masters weren't worth posting... too many light and dark stuff going on and couldn't prime them...
I would try to estimate exact date, but if you have monitored my past, why would you believe me! I talk ot the caster every few days and breath down his neck and junk, and right now that's all I can do.
Happy Holidays, though!
Drew
liskorea317 12-17-2009, 03:19 AM well, I guess that depends on how we define schedule.
They have been in the casters hands for a while. I should get Freezing Tube figures pretty soon, and hopefully soon after that the assorted figures will be ready. I had hoped to have them ready BEFORE the J2 was released, but I can't blame the caster on that... my day job has been really tough and I didn't get them to the caster until about 6 weeks ago, and he is slammed with the Proteus and some other stuff...
So... soon... no worries, though... they ARE coming and they look swell! I will post pics as soon as I get the first castings... pics of the masters weren't worth posting... too many light and dark stuff going on and couldn't prime them...
I would try to estimate exact date, but if you have monitored my past, why would you believe me! I talk ot the caster every few days and breath down his neck and junk, and right now that's all I can do.
Happy Holidays, though!
Drew
Great! I'm looking forward to them!:thumbsup:
MonsterModelMan 12-17-2009, 05:01 PM well, I guess that depends on how we define schedule.
They have been in the casters hands for a while. I should get Freezing Tube figures pretty soon, and hopefully soon after that the assorted figures will be ready. I had hoped to have them ready BEFORE the J2 was released, but I can't blame the caster on that... my day job has been really tough and I didn't get them to the caster until about 6 weeks ago, and he is slammed with the Proteus and some other stuff...
So... soon... no worries, though... they ARE coming and they look swell! I will post pics as soon as I get the first castings... pics of the masters weren't worth posting... too many light and dark stuff going on and couldn't prime them...
I would try to estimate exact date, but if you have monitored my past, why would you believe me! I talk ot the caster every few days and breath down his neck and junk, and right now that's all I can do.
Happy Holidays, though!
Drew
Drew,
Are you keeping a list? If so...add me to it for a set of J2 figures...
MMM
Zathros 12-17-2009, 11:13 PM I gotta say....that my chariot figures were a disappointment...after a long wait for them to arrive, and finally getting them..I took a quick look at them, and put them away last year..and after just completing my chariot last week, I finally took them out to build em...the feet on the john and don figures were broken off (probably in removal from casting)....and they have alot of major issues that are going to take quite some time to fix before preparation, assembly and painting......I know these are not "mass production" pieces, but these should have been better than the set I got...Hopefully since then, these new ones for the jupiter 2 will be better..I hope so for those of you that buy em...no disrespect to the manufacturer meant, but still...at the price, I had hoped that they would have less work to put in on them..
drewid142 12-18-2009, 01:58 AM Zathros
I am very sorry and somewhat surprised to hear that your figures have the feet missing. You and I exchanged e-mails AFTER you recieved your figures and you didn't mention that. I remember you because you complained quite a bit on a number of forums that you didn't like waiting for pre-paid items. I changed my entire way of taking orders because of that, and because of that I now will not do pre-orders and only take orders for items that I have on hand.
At the time, and still, you were the ONLY un-happy customer that I was aware of, so I have no problem remembering the entire exchange.
Can you post some pictures of the missing feet? I was aware of your unhappiness at the time and checked out the exact set of figures going to you personally and particularly to make sure that I sent you really good ones so I am surprised to hear of this problem.
Also, as I explained at the time, I would not hesitate to refund any unsatisfied cusomer their money in full.
John P 12-18-2009, 08:34 AM How can he post pictures of the missing feet? They're missing!
:D
tardis61 12-18-2009, 06:50 PM Drew
Im sure they will be worth the wait. Any aftermarket product designed to enhance the excellent meobius kits is very welcome. For my Lunar Models chariot which was a BUGGER to build I converted Matchbox british commandos into John Don and Dr Smith, mainly because they were already moulded with the undershirts with the collar.
So a set of Robinsons with the 3rd season fatigues will do just nicely.
Thank you sir from Australia.
Im just waiting for the Jupiter to hit The shores of Aussie now.
Keep up the good work
Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays
You, ninny, come here!
BlackbirdCD 12-18-2009, 07:07 PM Zathros
I am very sorry and somewhat surprised to hear that your figures have the feet missing. You and I exchanged e-mails AFTER you recieved your figures and you didn't mention that. I remember you because you complained quite a bit on a number of forums that you didn't like waiting for pre-paid items. I changed my entire way of taking orders because of that, and because of that I now will not do pre-orders and only take orders for items that I have on hand.
At the time, and still, you were the ONLY un-happy customer that I was aware of, so I have no problem remembering the entire exchange.
Can you post some pictures of the missing feet? I was aware of your unhappiness at the time and checked out the exact set of figures going to you personally and particularly to make sure that I sent you really good ones so I am surprised to hear of this problem.
Also, as I explained at the time, I would not hesitate to refund any unsatisfied cusomer their money in full.
He's just pulling your leg. The Robinsons didn't have feet! :)
Lou Dalmaso 12-18-2009, 08:37 PM yes, they were de-feeted by Smith at every turn
Ductapeforever 12-18-2009, 08:52 PM Awww Lou ! Lame but funny.
Lou Dalmaso 12-18-2009, 09:48 PM LAME?!!
Mr. Pot, I'd like you to meet Mr. Kettle. He's says you're black...
thebloop 12-19-2009, 12:28 AM Zathros
I am very sorry and somewhat surprised to hear that your figures have the feet missing. You and I exchanged e-mails AFTER you recieved your figures and you didn't mention that. I remember you because you complained quite a bit on a number of forums that you didn't like waiting for pre-paid items. I changed my entire way of taking orders because of that, and because of that I now will not do pre-orders and only take orders for items that I have on hand.
At the time, and still, you were the ONLY un-happy customer that I was aware of, so I have no problem remembering the entire exchange.
Can you post some pictures of the missing feet? I was aware of your unhappiness at the time and checked out the exact set of figures going to you personally and particularly to make sure that I sent you really good ones so I am surprised to hear of this problem.
Also, as I explained at the time, I would not hesitate to refund any unsatisfied cusomer their money in full.
That anybody can be "un-happy" with Drew? This can't be. I must say this:
I once received figures direct from Drew's casting supplier. Back then, it was a new system developed, I suppose, to speed up his orders. For the Chariot instead of receiving Lost in Space figures, I got Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea characters. A mistake, no doubt. Once Drew was contacted he did everything possible to get the order corrected. When I spoke to Drew on the phone, he was the friendliest man there could be. The item was exchanged; A great experience. These things happen.
I must also admit a close Robinsons resemblance of these figurines even without paint! I would not hesitate to buy my J2 figures from him.
Drew: consider me on your list, whether you have one or not.
Mike
thebloop 12-19-2009, 01:34 AM Hi Drew,
In following past threads I've noticed discussion about different Robot versions and sizes to fit models. With a seven-foot B9 replica standing before me, I'm sick of robots!
One question. I must ask it because after all, it is my name. A character that's been forgotten by almost everyone in production of Lost in Space products.
On the coming Moebius J2 figures, will there be a Bloop character?
With an ultimate J2, it's now or never.
Bloop, bloop!
drewid142 12-19-2009, 01:53 AM Golly Guys! Thanks for the encouragement!
thebloop... sorry, I didn't make a 1/35 scale Bloop for the J2 figures... but I will be making some 1/35 Scale Chariot figures soon and I will make sure to get one into that set, and i will finally get the Pod figures done in 24 and 35 scale...
right now I gotta get the J2 Figures shipping
Happy Holidays to you all!
Drew
John P 12-19-2009, 10:25 AM I'm definitely in for a set in their 3rd season casuals, if such is planned.
djnick66 12-19-2009, 12:47 PM There is a bloop in the set of old Switch N Go figures. You could also make one from a Britains 1/32 scale chimp... not that you should really want a Bloop...
jonboc 12-21-2009, 12:51 PM Hi Drew,
In following past threads I've noticed discussion about different Robot versions and sizes to fit models. With a seven-foot B9 replica standing before me, I'm sick of robots!
One question. I must ask it because after all, it is my name. A character that's been forgotten by almost everyone in production of Lost in Space products.
On the coming Moebius J2 figures, will there be a Bloop character?
With an ultimate J2, it's now or never.
Bloop, bloop!
:thumbsup: Better a bloop then a blarp!!
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