View Full Version : J2 Test Shot - Lost in Translation


BlackbirdCD
07-22-2009, 01:08 AM
A little bird sent me a picture of the new J2 test shots. As you can see, there's a lot to be said about the process one must go through to ensure an accurate model:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2475/3744609089_b3db58619a_o.jpg

It's mostly looking really great. With a quick aftermarket correction kit, this baby is ready to go! Rock on Moebius!!!

Note - Never never belive a word BlackBirdCD says. Oh, except when he says he's really good at Photoshop. He is really good at that.

rondenning
07-22-2009, 01:44 AM
I must have missed something, so please excuse me if I seem stupid, but why are there 4 landing gear wells, instead of 3??:drunk:
:devil:Ron:devil:

rondenning
07-22-2009, 01:46 AM
DUHHHH.... I missed the fine print!!! (without those reading glasses I can't see squat!!!! LOL, great job!!:thumbsup:
:devil:Ron:devil:

Lloyd Collins
07-22-2009, 01:53 AM
That is so cool! I wonder why Gary missed this one.

Gary K
07-22-2009, 01:55 AM
That is so cool! I wonder why Gary missed this one.

Yeah, I screwed up. The Chinese left off the other two legs.

Gary

drewid142
07-22-2009, 09:16 AM
Boy! That part would fetch a sweet price on e-bay! What a cool keepsake!

insert well known "Bright side" quote from "Life of Brian" here.

woof359
07-22-2009, 10:50 AM
im curious to see how the parts of the legs look to see if tubing can be used and how the foot pads atached (-:

Steve H
07-22-2009, 11:55 AM
no WONDER they got so testy about talk of a Gemini XII version! They were focusing on the never seen proposed Jupiter 2 changes for the 4th season!

:devil:

Seaview
07-22-2009, 12:05 PM
The "Inverted Jenny" of the modelling world! :lol:

JAT
07-22-2009, 01:21 PM
Umm...

Antimatter
07-22-2009, 05:07 PM
A little bird sent me a picture of the new J2 test shots. As you can see, there's a lot to be said about the process one must go through to ensure an accurate model:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2475/3744609089_b3db58619a_o.jpg

It's mostly looking really great. With a quick aftermarket correction kit, this baby is ready to go! Rock on Moebius!!!

Note - Never never belive a word BlackBirdCD says. Oh, except when he says he's really good at Photoshop. He is really good at that.

Boy, this is gonna get the anal hyper type folks all stirred up. I can't wait. :freak: I'll start the ball rolling. I don't know if aftermarket legs will look right with wells that narrow without major mods.

sgariepy
07-22-2009, 06:48 PM
Good one

BlackbirdCD
07-22-2009, 07:32 PM
Not to mention the spacepod hatch and chariot ramp are in the wrong position!

Seaview
07-22-2009, 07:37 PM
You know, I forgot all about this because it's been 44 years, but back in 1965 when I was watching LIS as a seven-year-old, I thought that the Jupiter 2 had 4 legs and drew it that way on any blank piece of paper I could find.
It was only after I turned ten and saw LIS in re-runs that I realized that it had only 3 landing gear.
This four-hole lower hull pictured just jogged a long lost "false memory". :o

falcondesigns
07-22-2009, 07:59 PM
I wonder how much this mistake cost?

woof359
07-22-2009, 08:01 PM
it was the trailer skirting around the crash site that made me crazy, remember when you had to wait untill summer before a rerun wood appear so you cood recheck stuff?nope, i didnt remember the lower hull looking like the crash site in flight.

Ron Gross
07-22-2009, 08:04 PM
Boy, this is gonna get the anal hyper type folks all stirred up. I can't wait. :freak: I'll start the ball rolling. I don't know if aftermarket legs will look right with wells that narrow without major mods.
I'm not concerned about that at all. These dimensions are closer than you think. You have to consider the fact that there are backing plates attached to the hero gear, causing the wells to look wider when the gear is seen in the retracted position. The plates formed an extra lip around each leg assembly, resulting in a theoretical seal against the hull.

BlackbirdCD
07-22-2009, 08:10 PM
You know, I forgot all about this because it's been 44 years, but back in 1965 when I was watching LIS as a seven-year-old, I thought that the Jupiter 2 had 4 legs and drew it that way on any blank piece of paper I could find.
It was only after I turned ten and saw LIS in re-runs that I realized that it had only 3 landing gear.
This four-hole lower hull pictured just jogged a long lost "false memory". :o

Hey that's better than me - I drew it with only TWO legs! :thumbsup:

BlackbirdCD
07-22-2009, 08:12 PM
I wonder how much this mistake cost?

This will require an entirely new plunge-routed tool into steel. Can't just re-use the same block, the details are too deep. Assuming they didn't go the cheap route and carve out the test shots in something as soft as aluminum, this will be pricey, and could result in at least a six month delay.

Dar
07-22-2009, 08:35 PM
This will require an entirely new plunge-routed tool into steel. Can't just re-use the same block, the details are too deep. Assuming they didn't go the cheap route and carve out the test shots in something as soft as aluminum, this will be pricey, and could result in at least a six month delay.

You guys do know that thats a photoshopped joke right???

Antimatter
07-22-2009, 08:46 PM
You guys do know that thats a photoshopped joke right???

Husssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

Antimatter
07-22-2009, 08:50 PM
Boy, someone at Moebius is going to lose their job over this mistake.

Dar
07-22-2009, 09:15 PM
Boy. someone at Moebius is going to lose their job over this mistake.


:lol::lol::lol:Ahem..I mean...:(:(:(:(:( Poor guy.

drewid142
07-22-2009, 09:31 PM
I came home today and lo and behold... there was my test shot!

Gary K
07-22-2009, 09:44 PM
I came home today and lo and behold... there was my test shot!

Now there's no debate about whether to use the full-scale or 4-footer's landing gear. Use BOTH!

Gary

Seaview
07-23-2009, 12:28 AM
Now you're talking! That should please EVERYBODY (except us folks expecting a Jupiter 2)! :tongue:

scotpens
07-23-2009, 02:41 AM
Oh my God, it's mutating!

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/attachment.php?attachmentid=87032&stc=1&d=1248334193

Antimatter
07-23-2009, 09:27 AM
Oh my God, it's mutating!

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/attachment.php?attachmentid=87032&stc=1&d=1248334193

OMG, it's the Jupiter Strain! According to this, there'll be a super-colony of Jupiter 2 over the entire southwest in 24 hours!

robiwon
07-23-2009, 10:42 AM
Add another two sets of windows and it will look like the house that's been talked about so much. Looks kinda cool though.

Lloyd Collins
07-24-2009, 02:57 AM
Moebius will have the four landing gear one in every 50 boxed. No window, so it will be pot luck, and no extra landing gear. It's rare, so you won't want to build it, but of course, if you open it, it won't be rare!:freak::p

Antimatter
07-24-2009, 08:15 AM
Moebius will have the four landing gear one in every 50 boxed. No window, so it will be pot luck, and no extra landing gear. It's rare, so you won't want to build it, but of course, if you open it, it won't be rare!:freak::p

I'm putting my gear on top.:freak:

trekkist
07-24-2009, 02:40 PM
Actually, I think it looks better, the more gear one adds...

Moebius
07-25-2009, 12:37 AM
Who let out the pictures of the "chase" kits?

Steve H
07-25-2009, 01:07 AM
I hear there's a version with a fusion core on top too, for super powered flight! any pics of that yet?

and what of the 8-window version? The 8 window Jupiter 2 never gets any love!

scotpens
07-25-2009, 02:44 AM
. . . and what of the 8-window version? The 8 window Jupiter 2 never gets any love!NOW the second deck finally makes sense!

JAT
07-25-2009, 07:58 PM
it was the trailer skirting around the crash site that made me crazy, remember when you had to wait untill summer before a rerun wood appear so you cood recheck stuff?nope, i didnt remember the lower hull looking like the crash site in flight.
Agreed. I could never figure that out...never saw it in flight with that skirt. Still, that was how I drew it in flight, with the skirt. Since this was, to my young boy's mind a very real craft (not a real flying saucer, I wasn't that naive, but two separate entities representing a single object) and not something represented by a zillion different miniatures, mock-ups and full size sets, I never quite understood where that skirt went while in flight. Just assumed I wasn't seeing it right.

PerfesserCoffee
07-27-2009, 02:05 PM
. . . I never quite understood where that skirt went while in flight. Just assumed I wasn't seeing it right.

I think that's an expandable joint that raises the upper level so that the lower level can exist.:p

Y3a
07-27-2009, 02:21 PM
It's that "Saucer Surrounder" fence from Home Depots Garden Center.

PerfesserCoffee
07-28-2009, 07:25 AM
That was one of those features of the show that was distracting to the extreme--a real "bubble buster." My mind always tried to make it conform to a upward sloping saucer's edge as you'd expect from the miniature but never could. Nor could I see how the set designers expected it to do so.

Would it have been so hard to just put some dirt up around the edges if not coming up with some pieces to more fully create the saucer effect down there?