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mcdougall 07-19-2009, 10:03 AM This Picture was posted yesterday over at the Clubhouse and at the UMA...
http://monsterscene.net/frankensteindoor.jpghttp://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o279/COPPRODUCTIONS/frank4.jpg
Yes...This is going to be a Cool Kit!!
Mcdee
Captain_April 07-19-2009, 11:21 AM Nice kit, but the photographer should have matched the camera angle of the original image. I will be buying this kit.
Rebel Rocker 07-19-2009, 01:31 PM Really looking forward to this kit!!
Wayne
Marko 07-19-2009, 01:38 PM very nice, like the scene a lot!
fluke 07-19-2009, 02:24 PM willickers! :thumbsup::)
Ron Gross 07-19-2009, 02:46 PM Although I think I would have preferred a touch more green in in skin tones, this is an excellent paint job, done by a true master. The subtlety, blending, and effective use of dry brush is simply first rate. It almost leads me to recommend a new sticky thread based on painting techniques, much like the one for basic building that Dave recently extracted from the new J2 thread. But then we should probably see how that goes first...
dklange 07-19-2009, 04:09 PM Very cool!!:thumbsup: Looking forward to building a NEW Frankenstein!
mrmurph 07-19-2009, 05:12 PM Very nice.
I agree with Ron's suggestion for a sticky on painting techniques. WIPs and suggestions are one of my favorite parts of this board.
BatToys 07-19-2009, 07:07 PM That's it? Really? The face is not like the photo. Not even scary looking. The Moebius Mummy is a spooky looking kit. The Moebius Invisible Man is even spookier. This looks like Frankenstein is coming out of the men's room. They should have just copied the Billiken Frankenstein.
XactoHazzard 07-19-2009, 10:48 PM I don't think it looks like Karloff
MartinHatfield 07-19-2009, 11:38 PM I don't think it looks like Karloff
Until I hear from Moebius themselves with a confirmation of this being their kit, I don't buy it. Just last month they pulled pics of the kit due to licensing approval. I cannot believe that they got the approval and a build-up that fast.
bqeman 07-20-2009, 12:23 AM I believe this was the face on the kit photo that was pulled last month, presumably because the face wasn't a final version
Bwain no more 07-20-2009, 12:59 AM Here is the SECOND photo that was posted (by me) on the Clubhouse with Frank's permission. I opted NOT to post ANY of the photos he sent (there ARE more) on this site, as I assumed his webguy would post a link to the Moebius site as soon as it was updated. Frank gave me the thumbs up on Friday, after he had sent the pics to his guy. I also expressed that sentiment when I posted the pics on the Clubhouse, but I was ignored, and the pictures have appeared elsewhere. Once the genie is out of the bottle, and all that. Frank and I have (what I feel to be) an outstanding professional relationship, one that I value very much. I offered to post the pictures on the Clubhouse because there was a discussion about the picture posted online earlier (with much OPINION offered, much, if not MOST of it provided by folks who had NOT even seen the picture). I felt posting the latest pics of a different build-up with better photography would provide a more reasonable representation of what the kit will be like. The actual reaction is a mixed bag, although I DID notice a trend here AND at the CH. People who ACTUALLY BUILD AND PAINT KITS (then post pictures of said kits to SHARE with other modelers) SEEM to LIKE the kit and plan to buy one (or GASP, TWO! This seems to be the case on the now (in)famous Jupiter 2 thread as well. So if I were Frank and Dave (who both ENJOY BUILDING KITS) I would keep on keeping on, and if you make them they (we) will buy them! And Frank, I apologize profusely for the apparent confusion/controversy this has created. I REALLY did NOT see this coming (although I certainly SHOULD have...)
Tom
kit-junkie 07-20-2009, 02:07 AM I assumed his webguy would post a link to the Moebius site as soon as it was updated.His webguy (me) hasn't had time to post anything yet. I'll get to it ASAP.
Those are pictures of the new Moebius kit. I am of the opinion that people should just be happy there is a new Frankenstein kit that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Either that or travel on over to eBait and find yourself a legitimate vinyl kit.
This opinion, in no way, reflects that of Moebius Models or any of Moebius' dealer network. It's just me getting pissed off at the complaining. Get over it...
Bwain no more 07-20-2009, 03:01 AM Kit Junkie; in retrospect, I probably should have waited until you posted the pics on the site before posting them in the CH. I spoke to Frank on Thusday afternoon, had the pics in an email Thursday night, exchanged emails with Frank Friday afternoon, then posted them EARLY Saturday morning when I got in from work. I SHOULD have checked the site, but to be honest, I was a little tired from work (it was 97 plus degrees in the warehouse where I work Friday night) so I uploaded my two favorite shots to Photobucket, posted them, then went to bed. BTW, no slight intended by referring to you as "the web guy", but I don't know your name, and for the life of me I could not recall your online username...:o My apologies to you sir as well for this situation, it will NOT happen again!
Tom
LGFugate 07-20-2009, 05:50 AM While I'm very much an amateur at figure kits, this one really does look like the photograph to me. The different angle of the model photo is a bit misleading, but look very carefully when comparing it to the movie frame next to it and I think you'll see that it is indeed very faithful to the movie character. It's 'waaaaay better than the old Aurora/PL Frankenstein!
Good job, Moebius!!!
Larry
Auroranut 07-20-2009, 06:06 AM Any one of us can find fault with ANY kit! If it's injection molded it's flawed. From what I can see, the only fault I can really see is one that can be easily corrected and that's the length of the lower legs. If a small section is removed then the legs are reglued I think that'll fix him right up dimensionally. As has been pointed out, it could also be the angle of the pic. The face looks fine to me. I like it a lot.
I personally think it's a cool version of the monster. It looks like Karloff to me.
KJ, you're right. We should be happy to have a good likeness of the monster in styrene. I know I am.....
Chris.:)
BatToys 07-20-2009, 07:08 AM On the close up of the head, what throws it off is that his hairline is too low. Gives him a youthful appearance or that Frankenstein is wearing a Beatles wig. Move the photo up/down to crop out the hairline and it looks more like Karloff.
John P 07-20-2009, 07:42 AM I agree that first glance doesn't 100% like karloff, but I'll be happy to wait for more pix nefore I rant. I'm-a gonna buy one anyway. I'm just finishing up the Mummy this week and having a ball building it and weathering the rocks, so a Franky with a castle wall to weather sounds like just as much fun
OzyMandias 07-20-2009, 07:52 AM I really like this kit. The posture is great and I think it's caught the moment from the film VERY well. The only thing I noticed as have others, is the leg length and the snug fit trousers, but it's not a deal killer, IMHO. If the trouser legs were a shade wider from the knees to the boots, I don't think the legs would look as long. After market pins for Frankie anyone? LOL
Seriously, it's an excellent representation of the character, and frankly better than anything that I've ever seen in styrene.
I love it! It may not be 100% perfect, but what is? I'll gladly take three! maybe 4.
gomontoya 07-20-2009, 08:21 AM I think he looks great! The Mummy followed by Frankenstein:thumbsup:
And for around $35?? How could you go wrong!! Thanks Moebius.
Parts Pit Mike 07-20-2009, 08:51 AM I'll chime in as well and give this one the Parts Pit thumbs up.:thumbsup: Looking forward to it.
So.. Invisible Man... Mummy.... now Frankenstein. Makes me wonder who is next. :)
GordonMitchell 07-20-2009, 09:38 AM Now I'm happy,I'm not bothered about if its a good likness or not(I think its not bad myself)its down to the paint job,I have seen great liknesses wasted by a bad paint job and not so good enhanced by a terrific paint job,its an injection moulded model meant for mainstream hobbyists and mainstream pockets and I am all for it and more of them please and the sooner the better....my eye sight is going quicker than the sunlight these days....lol,Cheers,Gordon
dklange 07-20-2009, 10:21 AM After waiting 40-some years for new, high-quality, mass-produced, reasonable-priced, monster models all I have to say is... THANK YOU!!! and Keep 'em coming!!!!:thumbsup:
Just Plain Al 07-20-2009, 10:40 AM I'm all over this.
Matthew Green 07-20-2009, 10:56 AM Gotta hate the Clubhouse....I got banned for simply saying Kingpėn in the movie Daredevil should´ve been played by a white guy so it could´ve been comic accurate....
Righteous Mark banned me for that comment.
mrdean 07-20-2009, 11:07 AM Dear Mobius Models,
Since the first time I saw Frankenstein, I wanted a model of the door scene. Now it is coming! It looks to be a big kit, like the Invisible Man and the Mummy. It also looks very much like Karloff. What I like most about it is that it will be out soon!
As I said when the earlier photo was breifly viewed, painting makes a big difference. His forehead looks a little short. Maybe he just needs a little hair cut!
I cannot wait!:woohoo:
Mark Dean
kit-junkie 07-20-2009, 11:39 AM Kit Junkie; in retrospect, I probably should have waited until you posted the pics on the site before posting them in the CH.
Don't worry about it. It's not a problem. Sometimes, I can't get to things right away.
mrmurph 07-20-2009, 11:42 AM The only thing I'm looking forward to more than buying this kit is seeing what the talented folks on this board do with theirs.
This old guy is stoked!
djnick66 07-20-2009, 12:54 PM The door is thick enough to keep King Kong out, but the kit looks way cool and seems to be very well done overall.
hedorah59 07-20-2009, 01:45 PM Yes! Pics of the new Monster kit, and with a superb David Fisher paint job as well :cool: It looks great, I will be getting at least one.
:thumbsup:
PerfesserCoffee 07-20-2009, 03:16 PM It looks great! I would buy one but I've already got a huge one that I need to work on in a similar scene.
Tim Nolan 07-20-2009, 04:12 PM I love anything Frankenstein. I don't have any that look alike! I just gave away my Revell re-pop to a friend, in anticipation of this kit coming out! I like the looks of it! Thick door? See the movie? IT WAS THICK! Remember, it had to contain a 7 foot monster from knocking it down! (and after Egor beating the crap out of him with a whip too! He was P.O.'d! LOL!) Yeh, I'd paint him a bit more of a green-grey, but it looks awesome! I'll probably buy at least two! Thanks Moebius!
rkoenn 07-20-2009, 04:29 PM I have to say I am impressed and will pick one up shortly after they come out. I hope Frank has plans for similar quality Wolfman and Dracula models. All the other Universal monsters could stand Franks hand as well although I know the licensing is probably the biggest hang up. Moebius is one bang up company, I met Frank at Wonderfest and he is a great guy, and we are lucky they are putting the kits out that they are. Amazing what he has produced in such a short time frame. Keep up the good work Moebius, I have bought almost everything you have produced so far and am ready to pick up most of your new kits when they hit the shelves.
mrdean 07-20-2009, 04:42 PM ...Thick door? See the movie? IT WAS THICK! Remember, it had to contain a 7 foot monster from knocking it down! (and after Egor beating the crap out of him with a whip too! He was P.O.'d! LOL!)
Have a look at the screen cap right next to the built model in post 1 of this thread. Look at Karloff's hand. Compare door to hand in model image.
Also it was Fritz played by Dwight Frye not Ygor. Ygor was not until "Son of Frankenstein" and again in "The Ghost of Frankenstein". Ygor never beat the Monster he was too busy being nice so he could get him to do his evil deads!
Having said that...I can't wait!!
Mark Dean
Ignatz 07-20-2009, 07:56 PM You guys just don't get it. We have to deal with reality here. Back then, Universal was plowing all their bux into big musicals. They could only afford those thin, flimsy dungeon doors made outta balsa wood and papier maché. Now Moebius, with its infinite resources has finally given us the nice big beefy dungeon door the movie so very much deserved. A decades old insult has finally been corrected. Viva Moebius!
Old Ghosts 07-20-2009, 08:47 PM When is the kit to be released...?
jgoldader 07-20-2009, 10:52 PM It looks great! A few fixes here and there, maybe, but looks great.
Anybody got a Peter Boyle head in the right scale? :) If there is one, I'm buying not just one, but two of the kits!
Jeff
mcdougall 07-20-2009, 10:55 PM I've had 2 pre-ordered for ages now...and I just ordered 2 more :thumbsup:
Mcdee
Mitchellmania 07-21-2009, 11:09 AM I'll look forward to seeing more photos! I'm sure this is only a mock up. To me he does not look in proportion.
Nice looking kit. I think the close-up pic looks just like Karloff. The only thing I would modify on my build would be to make the base a bit more narrow and with a slight off set. Looks great! :thumbsup:
Dave Metzner 07-22-2009, 12:02 PM Photos are the first test shot...
OzyMandias 07-22-2009, 02:23 PM OK, now I'm curious. Will the final kit vary in look from the photos Dave?
Dave Metzner 07-22-2009, 03:59 PM Slightly, There's been a little plastic surgery on the bottom half of his face..
Nothing major ....I'm sure that there is a second test shot being built now...don't know how soon there will be photos however..
I'm covered up with other projects for the next couple weeks so I won't get time to whack one together for a while...
No other changes..
SUNGOD 07-22-2009, 05:44 PM It looks good but the forehead looks to short to me and his feet look in a slightly stiff pose. Also, don't his boots look a bit squarer in the movie?
Here's what looks like an accurate representation......
http://www.doncapone.org/modelkits/images/Frankenstein-Billiken-model.jpg
Zorro 07-22-2009, 05:59 PM Here's what looks like an accurate representation......
http://www.doncapone.org/modelkits/images/Frankenstein-Billiken-model.jpg
That Billiken looks great. Try buying one in styrene for $35.00.
OzyMandias 07-22-2009, 06:01 PM LOL @ plastic surgery... I nearly choked on my cuppa. Do you know if he's got the trademark dimple in his right cheek where Karloff removed his bridgework during filming? You can't see the right side in the photos.
OzyMandias 07-22-2009, 06:04 PM That Billiken looks great. Try buying one in styrene for $35.00.
Amen to that. The Biliken version is a beautiful kit, but out of my league, price-wise. Out of production too if I'm not mistaken...
I'm thinking the reason the feet are parallel is that possibly the feet are molded onto the front and back leg assemblies, it might be done to make it easier to pull from the mold. Should be an easy fix to cut them off and reposition. If thats the case , it would have been better to make the feet seperate parts. There are a few minor flaws, but I still love this kit. Its the best likeness of Karloff in styrene I've ever seen. I'm very happy to see something new in the Universal monster kit line. Thanks again Frank! For all your efforts.
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