It's about time I put this stuff where it belongs.. I'm guilty of lumping everything in one (or lately two) threads. So without further ado, here is a visual history of my little stump city motorway..

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The main attraction of this table is the hand made 4 lane 2 RR track crossing. This was my first and only success at cutting track. Subsequent attempts just didn't work as good.. I have the equipment and know how to make one prettier, but just haven't got the incentive to motivate myself to try it..

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Lessons learned... If you use plaster cloth, cover the track.. It yields decent results but the clean up took forever.. Once you have plaster all over everything it's too late to do it right!!..LOL.


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All the planning in the world won't do you any good if you don't stick to the whole plan. To save a few bucks at the table building stage, I shorted the table length by a foot. The missing two feet of elevation made putting the city portion of the track where it was designed impossible, at least for a hack like me. Going from the road and sidewalk on a tilt to buildings being level killed it.

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The table is L shaped.. Approximately 10 X 10. One leg is 5' feet wide, the other is 4'. The trains run on parallel twisted loops for simplicity. It's all scenery no matter how you look at it.

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The dip in the tunnel matches the dip in the floor.. I think the house settled over the last 80 years..LOL

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Like I said.. Plans change.....

Continued..
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Yes I light up stuff.. Cars, buildings, more cars...

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THis was my last effort with the plaster cloth.. By this time I did my homework here on the boards and did some serious learning..

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Finally!!! Gone with the wind.. is GONE!!! Thanks to Bob...horrorclix...Zilla for turning me on to the clix!! Sure they're a bit oversized.. But it only accents my already whacked sense of humor..

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Since I put her here, for some strange reason, my car stalls alot here.. She never accepts the ride though.. More to come...

Still continued...

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What bar doesn't have a decent cat fight from time to time??


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Heeheehee..

I got tired of seeing "snow".. The winter was finally over outside, and I saw more than my share of the nasty white stuff. That went for inside as well. Time to think green!!!!
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Another messy process. A few minutes of masking and covering track saves hours of clean up. I always seem to learn the hard way...

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As I progress, my abilities improve.. There's no help for the stuff already gerfed, but for the next table I'll be way ahead!! Still more coming!!

The car dealership was losing sales in the evening.. I suggested some nice Christmas lights and an inflatible Sponge Bob.. They took my advice, but sales didn't improve..

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Stuff is blooming big time now!!

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Scenery is fun!! Don't let the mess stop you!! In the end, the rewards are great!!

Hey!! A new shop is opening where the old Exxon station was!!!

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This just about brings me up to date. Except for one thing. Joez, get the foam and get to work. Here's a few things I learned about foam. You may know already, and I'm sure alot of you guys do too. I figured this out on my own so if it's been mentioned here.. Sorry!!

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Foam is great to work with!!! It's slightly messy, but nothing a shop vac can't clean up!! Make a pattern of an area, cut it with a kitchen knife. Sculpt it, sand it. 120 grit followed by 180 was all it took..

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I painted the grass areas with light brown latex paint, and sprinkled the ground cover on. Let it dry. Then give it a shot of watered down white glue in a spray bottle and resprinkle the grass stuff again. NEW!!! You need a spray bottle that mists!!!! The stream will blow the ground cover away!!!! I then painted the parking lot black and the curb grey using the cheap acrylics in the craft dept at wally world.

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Even the areas I didn't think I'd ever get done were a piece of cake with the foam!! Fill the area, shape with a knife. Sand and paint. Sprinkle and plant trees. Easy peasy!!! If you do one section at a time, in no time you'll be done!! One thing I forgot to mention.. Get a cheap low temp hot melt glue gun. It's great for gluing the foam together, filling gaps, gluing signs, trees and shrubs and people down, and is pretty much removable if need be.

That looks great.Almost makes me want to landscape my track.
Tom(no relation to Stump city)Stumpf

Thanks Tom! Just so you know, everyone, At this point on my table I have gone through one full 60 cubic in. bottle (about $7.00) of Bachmann dark green Ground cover, and less than 1/3 burnt grass green. There's a lot left to do, but you get quite a bit of coverage from one jug. Trees on the other hand... well.. do the math!! The ones from China may look kinda skimpy until you compare prices.. They look better price-wise..

Stump City!
That's the place to be
Stump City!
Always something new to see

See a movie. Get a bite to eat.
Just avoid being Barny's treat.
Watch the zombies on the avenue.
Check the car lot for a Subaru.

Pizza Hut has all the chicks
Hiding there from the Horror Clix
Look at Sponge Bob walkin' the beat
Zombies lookin' for someone to eat.

Stump City!
That's the place to be.
Stump City!
Always something new to see.

Hit the city to see the lights
Go to the bar for some cat fights
Bring your car in for some LEDs
C.L.and M. aims to please.

Cruise in a Merc Sled with the top down.
Ain't got no reason to wear a frown.
Take a train ride to see Big Foot dance.
Come again when you get a chance.

Stump City!
That's the place to be
Stump City!
Always something new to see

Perfect Russ!!!! :lol: :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :thumbsup::thumbsup:

.... and the drifts are finally melted!!!..... It's all shape'n up fine and look'n strong Joe... :thumbsup::thumbsup: nd

That's how the Hutt roles, SCMan. Thanks for the inspiration!

Looking good Sltman :thumbsup::thumbsup: I like Pizza Hut, especially when there's a car show!!! Ya got a good start going!!! I don't think you can ever get through landscaping, seems there's always something you want to add...RM

aren't Yettis white? although I have never seen one...

Of course Yeti's are white.. But I have a sasquatch... not a yeti.. LOL

Nice work :thumbsup: It looks like a real labor of love!

I enjoy the playful touches: The Theater Marquee, Street Scenes, Raccoon piloted dune buggy, and Sasquatch. It adds interest and dimension to the landscaping.

Gives me some food for thought as I plan the landscaping for my layout.

Bob B.

Great stuff! I never saw a sasquatch either, glad you know the color of them.

It's really coming together nicely. If you didn't know it was a slotcar layout you would think the night scene of the used car lot was real. Great job!

Thanks Yankee.. Coming from a master scenery maker that you are is a huge compliment. I'm glad I changed my way of thinking with this table, not so much for this table itself as for the next one. One of the perils of attempting a project like this in an apartment is knowing the day will come when it all gets torn down. This was the main reason for my foot dragging when it came to adding all the grass and stuff. I turned my thoughts around and decided to do it up as a test bed to experiment with different methods of doing scenery and now that I'm on a roll, I'm finishing it up right quick. Having the scenery finished adds so much more enjoyment to running it, so the big push is on to button it up. The TM has changed her mind so many times as to when we're moving that I stopped making it an issue. When it happens, it happens. At least I can enjoy running this stuff around on something finished until then. The best part is, when the time comes, I'll have a better idea what I'm going to do and the next table will be even better, and go together much faster. :thumbsup::thumbsup: I'm hoping the next house has a usable basement for this.. (preferably finished) and even more preferable it's mine as opposed to rented..:rolleyes:

Still blazing along in scenery mode, I managed to get a big section of scenery done in two days. The bulk of the time was waiting for stuff to dry so the next stage could be performed.. It's still not finished yet, but for the short time I did work on it.. it's good enough to post a few pics.. Here is the sewage treatment/ yoohoo bottling plant..:tongue:

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Joe, Great job!! :thumbsup::thumbsup: Nice pics of many different scenes.
Lighted shots are especially :cool:! Keep the project going, I'm sure everyone
will be looking forward for more!! :)

Thanks Dom!! I'm finally using all that scenery stuff I bought from you last year. A few of the trees were really dried out, but the rest are in use or allocated for an unfinished area. The main reason for this thread now is to get someone joez motivated, as I believe he is no different than me when it comes to doing something new. I'm hoping that person gets the subliminal joez message and gets to work on his joez scenery.. By the way, this foam will make great stonehenge rocks too joez. Hint, hint hint!!!

The picture of the railroad crossing with the plant in the background is a keeper...man does that look good!:thumbsup: You have done a great job incorporating the slot track and train tracks together. Each individual scene blends together well with the others. It's not easy to have that much stuff going on and make it work together, but you have certainly accomplished that. Keep up the good work and keep the pics coming.

Thanks Yankee.. I'll be happy when I get back under the table and get the crossing gates functioning as they should. By then, a full video of two trains, 4 slots running together will get done.. (I've only been after this for 8 months now) I'll get it done one of these days...

Great layout. Looks like a lot of fun. Love the elevation changes as well as the railroad integration. That has to be one of the Hutt's best poems too.

Jim

No doubt his finest work to date!!! The Chamber of Commerce has officially adopted that poem as it's official song. They didn't recognize the song it is patterned after (must be some obscure So Cal group) so they have decided to attempt to contract Rush to put it to music.. They are anxiously awaiting the good news from their booking agent...:rolleyes: :thumbsup::thumbsup:

real nice work joe.thought i would lurk for a bit,but had to comment on your layout.all you need now is a drive in for the leadsleds!

(I've only been after this for 8 months now) I'll get it done one of these days...

Don't worry about getting it done. If you like doing the work you'll probably never get it completely done. It took me 3 1/2 years to finish mine and I still am making changes and adding things. It's the journey not the end that's the real prize. Can't wait to see the video.

IF all goes to the TM's plan, by next summer it'll all get torn up, packed in boxes and all I can really do is hope and pray the next house has a really decent basement.. Then the next generation table can get started.. If all goes the way I hope, it'll be bigger, better, and even more entertaining.. Unless of course we hit the mega millions.. Then things will happen a lot sooner!! :rolleyes:

I made a major oopsy or two in table design.. I did design the short side of the "L" to detach fairly easily, but the legs are screwed (and now so am I) through the plywood UNDER the homosote. Great thinking wasn't it??? I was thinking indestructible table... My only option now is to cut the legs off if saving the scenery is even an option. I have a feeling it won't be, so off it'll come.. The good thing is most parts are salvageable.. Like I said, the next one will be better...:rolleyes: I hope!!

Stump City!
That's the place to be
Stump City!
Always something new to see
...
:thumbsup: I like it!

Great looking ! :thumbsup::thumbsup: rr

Looks Great!!! Sure have put a lot of effort into it! :thumbsup::thumbsup:I especially like the Hookers! lol Oh and btw...Don't get a Parrot with all that laying about, unless you film the destruction cuz it would be like "Godzilla Attacks" if you let him at it!

Thanks Capt!! I saw the parrot video..:thumbsup::thumbs: I can only imagine what would be chewed up on a daily basis!! :lol:

ujoe,if you could lend your advice on a ho train/slotcar layout that would be great...how about a tutorial?i would love to do this for my son one day when he is old enough not to destroy it!always appreciate your posts,and everyone's here on HT...neil trett:thumbsup:

Well Neil, I'll tell you what I did, and we'll work from there. I got on Atlas' website www.atlasrr.com and downloaded their track planning software. The software was pretty cool once you got used to tinkering with it. Basically you enter your table size and shape and just start laying down track. The trick is to have your slot track plan in mind before you start and mentally project it onto the "table" when you're laying out the train stuff. Try to stay away from the 15" curves for the trains.. way too tight a radius and most train dislike them.

As for the crossings. Aurora made them, Tyco did too. There are a bunch of different adapter tracks to transition from one brand/ model to another. The Tyco was cool if you want to do a 4 lane as you can tinker with the sides of the track easy enough to get them side by side. They are less expensive than the Aurora crossing too.

The biggest issue I found when laying out the table was the lack of space I had when accomodating the RR Xing in the mix. Prototypical boundaries aside, you really don't want to exceed a 4% grade when laying RR track. You can get away with 6% but beyond that you're getting into mountain RR stuff and you'll be limited to how long a train you can operate. How much space you have will dictate how you lay out the track and get it all to fit. The first RR Xing I played with was on a friend's table when I was 14. I wish I could remember how the table was layed out as it was only a 4 X 8 and it fit rather nicely. Experiment with a couple designs with the software (if it works) and see where it leads you. Hopefully the Atlas website is just experiencing a temporary glitch and it'll be back up soon. I'm curious myself, as I would like to start tinkering with a few optional track plans for the next table when we move.. (if we move :rolleyes:) next year. Here's your start newbie.. Hope the link works soon!! :thumbsup:

Here is a direct link to the software through Atlas' site. http://www.atlasrr.com/righttrack.htm


It's working now!!!! Hooooooray!!!!

Things are looking up in Stump City!!! Since the new bottling plant opened up on the outskirts of town, the town's economy has been given a boost!! More people with more money makes for great business at the town's hot spot!! So much so that they had to start taking in a cover charge. This led to new stage lights and better bands getting booked...


Please be patient with the video loading.. Pass the popcorn, Doba!!

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A few funny things happened when I went to shoot this video. First off, my railroad crossing decided to not be automated last night when I was filming, so you'll notice the train only once in the video. :lol: Yes it was a mess!! The second thing I realized was that of all the cars I've lit up, I only have like 5 total. And two aren't working right.. :freak: I guess I better make me a few more...:rolleyes:

.... errr make that two.... My lit Cobra is top shelf now :thumbsup::thumbsup:.... AND... joeLED has become a Scenery Master right before our very eyes!!! WTG joeLED :thumbsup: nd

Thanks, ND!! I changed the link above so it should go directly to the full screen version. This was my first (and second) time editing video on photobucket and it took most of an afternoon the first time to figure out what I was doing. After getting it all done I was under the impression all the video clips to make it were accessible, so after all that work, I deleted all the extra clips... only to find when I did that the new edited version was devoid of all video!! :rolleyes: Oooops!! I wasn't too tickled with the first version anyways, as it had no cars running. The second came out much better, and fell into place a lot quicker. Thanks for the kudo's!! Master I'm not.. I'm more of a hack than anything!! :tongue:

BTW, My sled is still in perfect working order Joe. That outta bring yer batting average up!

Yeah "photo-muff-it" takes some gettin' used to...but for a cheap arse slot tard like me it's a fair trade.

Loved the show, looking forward to the sequel.

Whatcha usin for gate activation and de-activation?

Funny you should ask!!! The timing couldn't be more perfect. The gates are operated by a pair of Grade Crossing Pro set ups (one per train track) and use the factory photo sensors. The set up when working properly senses the train by changes in light level and triggers the lights to flash and the gates to move. The GCP powers two tortoise switch machines. Under normal circumstances you would utilize one tortoise per gate, but I have it set up to do both gates with one tortoise, and use the other to control the automated crossing. Tortoise #2 runs a rod with a magnet attached to activate 4 reed switches. Tortoise goes one way, all 4 lanes got the juice, the other way, all 4 trackes are (supposed to be) dead.

I think I have an insulation issue with one of the lanes.. It has power when it should be dead. It's also possible the reed switch for that lane welded itself closed.. It wouldn't be the first time it happened on this set up, causing me to obtain really heavy duty reed switches. What I really need are them good old fashioned power taps that go between the track to power the dead sections. It would make for much more positive connections opposed to the half azzed method I'm using now. I'm hoping by the time the next table gets built I'll have all the fancy doodads I'm lacking now..

Anyway, back to the coincidence... I decided to take a peek at the crossing situation today, hoping to figure out why the incident occured the other night, and lo and behold, the darn gates started working on their own!! Evidently, something I adjusted made them start working correctly!!! I was so tickled, I grabbed the camera and took a quick movie.. Uploading it now, so check back in a bit. Not the highest quality as it was just a quickie, but I'll do a remake later.. :thumbsup:

ooh! :thumbsup: nd

As promised, here is a quicky RR Xing video with the gates fully functional. I still have a couple issues to work out with the track automation, and I only did a quick "hack" editing job..

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A better version will replace this cheesy one as time permits.. I need to get back to work on my Xmas exchange or I'll miss the deadline!!!

Hope the link works!! :wave:

Your club with those Disco Night lights are way Kewl and the music realy makes it all happen for me!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

O.K. slotcarman this realy shows just how AWESUM of a track builder you are! WOW! That is very nifty with the train cross blinking lights, lifting gate, train going by and then the slot car goes. Incredible DUDE! :dude:

Bob...I'm not worthy...zilla

Nice Job! I like the car show at Pizza Hut! I also like the lights and the RR crossing!

This progressive addition of gidgy gadgets is great to watch. That sure is a long train. Based on how that car took off after the gate lifted, he was pissed off that he caught it. Can't wait to see the next innovation!
Jim

Great sense of realism to that video with the dim lighting. I think I've seen that crossing somewhere. :confused: Love the blinking headlights and tail lights on the cars in the shop. It makes me want to incorporate trains in my layout again. This will keep me up at night for a while.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Thanks guys! I am about to redo the lights at the pizza hut to light up the corner a bit more. The car club complained enough!! All the gadgets and gizmo's are mostly experiments in electronics for me. I usually have to do things 2-3 times before I get any kind of decent results. Even then reliability is still an issue.

The lighted truck is one of my forgotten lighting projects.. I had it stationed at the yoohoo factory and as I was filming, realized it was there. I ditched the US1 truck I was using and swapped it for the lit septic pumper, and forgot to adjust the speed. I was quite suprized when the gates went up and it tore off like a shot!! :lol: The camera does make the cars look faster than they are really going, but that AFX powered (once apon a time) semi really tore out of there. Naturally, I edited the film bassackwards and the dump truck shows up later..

Mixing slots and trains has it's good points and it's bad points too. Incorporating them in one setting can take alot of space. Especially with any type of grade crossing. There are sacrifices you need to make also. The cars are a larger scale than the trains. The trucks are the correct scale more or less. I like lights and movement, and seeing as the trains do much of their running basically in the dark, the scale thing isn't as much an issue. But I'm needing a bit more light than I have (especially when filming). I'm running out of things to wire the lights to.. This end of town has brown outs everytime I power the table up!! :lol: It's a challenging project, and working on it is as much a chore as a joy lately. I really hope the next set up is easier to work with, and runs way smoother..

real nice work joe.thought i would lurk for a bit,but had to comment on your layout.all you need now is a drive in for the leadsleds!

You know, newbie, this thought has been in my mind since I read this! The technology is there, the prices have come down, and there's enough gadgets out there to make it very possible. There is a manufacturer that makes an HO scale drive in theater screen. Another company made a really cool blinky drive in sign. With a little ingenuity and a bit of cash a small DVD player (like the kind they were clearancing at Wally World (for car head rests) could be fitted to that drive in screen and real movies could be played at the drive in!!! I'm lacking the room to attempt this this time, but maybe the next table will be better layed out for ideas like these!!! I like the concept a lot!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Here's a link to some of the signs to get an idea.. I don't see the big drive in one that I recall.. It was a limited edition, double sided drive in theater sign.. They were kinda pricey so I passed.. :cry: There is another one but not as pretty..
http://www.microstru.com/Animated-signs.html Poke around the site!!! He has some cool stuff!!!! There's a wicked cool Las Vegas sign a certain zilla I know couldn't resist!!

Here's the drive in link.. scroll down... http://www.hogtrainz.com/BLAIRLINE.htm
http://www.microstru.com/Animated-signs.html

Some of this stuff is extreme.. Where's my Ronco drool catcher?? :lol: http://www.microstru.com/CustGallery.html

Here's my dream table idea... A nice big basement.. The table goes all the way around the perimeter. Both trains and slots. From city to town to another city to town.. you get the idea... Everything automated. Multiple RR Xings, Junction turnoffs, etc. I'm thinking of running more than one car per lane, so I'll put sensors in the track to switch turnoffs when one car passes it. If another car is closing in it will be diverted to a turnoff to spread the gap. The biggest problem will be keeping the cars at a reasonable speed.. Taking turnoff curves at running speed makes for trouble!! Don't wake me up yet!! I'm not done!! The track can also be run using wireless controllers so you can follow your car around the room for racing... Hmmmm.. What's the Mega Millions up to this time??? Gonna need it!! :rolleyes:

That site has some great looking stuff. If we only had the time, the room and the $$$ :(

I agree, Zilla's got to have that Vegas sign. There's an old El Rancho Motel sign and a Casino sign too. Bob.....it's time to start work on Las...Zilla!

Very Cool:thumbsup: