the less you like it?

I mean, when I first saw A Few Good Men, I loved it. It was brilliant! That was 15 years ago. Today, I can barely stomach it. It's not dated in any way except for haircuts so that's not my issue. My issue is that do US Marines on trial really state other Marines' full names, titles and their branch on the stand?

"Yes, Captain, I was given an order by my squad leader Lance Corporal Harold W. Dawson, United States Marine Corps and I followed it!"

That and a few other little idiosyncrasies that bug me. For example; Why, OH WHY did they let Tom Cruise do the impersonation of Jack Nicholson with Kevin Pollak in the same room??? It would be like if, in Twins, letting Danny DeVito take his shirt off instead of Ah-nold.

Just for me, the more I watch some movies, the less I like them.

It's funny, I was thinking about posting about 'movies you like more the more you see them'.

Examples:

'John Carpenters The Thing'

'Blade Runner'

'Dark City'

As much as I like Eddie Murphy I can not stomach "Raw". Thought it was Hillarious when I was in my 20's. Young kids I see today like it still, guess it is the perspective of age.

Yeah.... "Top Gun"

I loved it when it came out. Watched it several times. But, by the time I'd finished flight school in the Navy I figured out just how wrong all the flight scenes were... UGH! Can't stomach it any more.

It's funny, I was thinking about posting about 'movies you like more the more you see them'.

Examples:

'John Carpenters The Thing'

'Blade Runner'

'Dark City'

Jodet -

I agree with you about Blade Runner being one of those films. I remember the first time I saw it, I liked it, but didn't really love it. I think that I liked all the tech stuff featured in the movie more than the story itself, but that's the geek in me talking. I had seen the film a few times over the years, but when it was recently given the red carpet treatment in terms of a DVD release, I looked at the film quite differently. Looking at the film as a piece of cinematic performance art really does make you appreciate what went into making it and how much you get from watching it. I sat through all of the versions provided in the 5-disk set, not to mention all of the documentaries about the film as well. I also bought at least 3 different books that were about the film itself, so as it appears, I've "gone over the edge" just a bit and become a full fledged fan of the film - at least for me anyways.

It's just so odd watching a film that came out nearly 30 years ago and practically rediscovering it all over again, but liking it even more than I did the first time around. Oh, I know that this discussion is gonna make me pull out the DVDs and I know that I'm gonna be watching it at least one night this week.

Bryan

I'd bet a lot of movies that Tom Cruise has been in haven't faired well with age. It is more that Tom Cruise seems to act so seriously in every role and is overly intense that on second viewing (or more) that some of the material just seems ridiculous. Top Gun is a good example of this. Also Legend with Mia Sara and Tom Cruise is less enjoyable the more you watch it.

On the other hand, there are some truly bad movies that I find more enjoyable with repeated viewing. A good example is Commando with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Some of the lines and the action are just so ridiculous that it becomes an unintentional comedy.

...the more you see a movie the less you like it?Yes. In fact, far too many to mention here; I've lost count of the number of films (and/or older television shows, for that matter) I've re-watched in, say, the last five years and thought, "What did I ever see in this?" Conversely, as Jodet posted, there are probably almost an equal number of films that I like more every time I see them.

And I can think of one film--Goodfellas--that I liked a lot when I first saw it in 1990 but liked less and less upon repeated viewings, so I stopped watching it. A few years ago I caught it on tv and regained an appreciation for it. :confused:

Yeah, Back in the 80's i really liked "The Lost boys". Saw it the other night, OMG it's really a BAD movie.

Yeah, with regards to "A Few Good Men", I too loved it at first, but the buddy I saw it with was ex military and he was point-blank-range enraged by it.

He swore up and down there was no way a high caliber officer who was literally on his way to the joint chiefs would: 1) Order one of his men assaulted. 2) Order several other officers to cover it up. 3) Get nagged ever so slightly on the stand and then just lose it and confess Perry Mason style ("Can you imagine Shwartzkopf doing that!? Huh? Effing A you can't!!")

At the time I didn't think much of these plot holes, but as the years went on and my admiration for those in uniform increased, I've slowly come around to my buddy's way of seeing it. I saw the film on TV just a couple months ago, and yes, it's like I woke up from the Matrix or something. Now all I can see is just another "soldiers are all closet psychos" smear.

The Jason Bourne movies went the same way for me too. At first I quite liked them. But as the series progressed I found myself less and less enamoured of the "CIA are the real bad guys" motif. By the time we got to the third film and they were depicting Bourne's training as being mostly waterboarding, I was fully done. There are people and groups out there so evil they're like something out of a comic book. Yet the best these Greengrass and Damon idiots can come up with are self loathing stories about amnesiac whistleblowers being chased around by corrupt case officers?

Please.

The Jason Bourne movies went the same way for me too. At first I quite liked them. But as the series progressed I found myself less and less enamoured of the "CIA are the real bad guys" motif. By the time we got to the third film and they were depicting Bourne's training as being mostly waterboarding, I was fully done. There are people and groups out there so evil they're like something out of a comic book. Yet the best these Greengrass and Damon idiots can come up with are self loathing stories about amnesiac whistleblowers being chased around by corrupt case officers?

Please.

That's funny! :D I've come around the opposite way regarding the CIA movies mostly due to my politics shifting [self-deleted more details to avoid devolving into discussion of politics]. Suffice it to say that, though I more than fully see your point, I can enjoy these type movies now whereas I used to be (15 years ago) a bit more tolerant of certain things and couldn't enjoy movies like those of the Bourne series back then.

One movie that I can't seem to get enough of is "2001: A Space Odyssey." I tend to watch it whenever I come across it playing on cable. "Planet of the Apes" and "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" are two others I watch a lot when they're on. "Matrix," "Batman" (movie with Adam West and Burt Ward), and "The Wrath of Kahn" are three more I like more as I watch them on repeated viewings.

There are innumerable movies that I've seen that, though once seen and enjoyed the first time around, I can not BEAR to bring myself to watch them again. It's almost as if the experience was so intense in a negative way that I can't bear to go through it again.

I can see the fantasy appeal that "Lost Boys" had for a lot of younger fellows. I was a bit inoculated against it due to being older and having already gone through that stage of movie indulgence. Though it was mildly enjoyable upon first viewing, it is absolutely unwatchable for me now.

I think that things like the Bourne movies and such are more about the few bad eggs than about the organization. There are actually good guys in those movies too.

Yet the best these Greengrass and Damon idiots can come up with are self loathing stories about amnesiac whistleblowers being chased around by corrupt case officers?Blame Robert Ludlum, who wrote the original novels on which the films are based.

I loved E.T. when it first came out in 1982, and now I can't stand it.

I also felt the same about Lost Boys--when that first came out, I saw it in the theater and loved it. I saw it recently for the first time in years, and for the life of me I can't figure out what I thought was so great about it.

On the flip side, I hated Batman Returns when it first came out. But now I love it. Go figure...

Sean

Obviously this has a lot to do with relative age between first and subsequent viewings. I really can't think of a film I loved and later hated.

One movie I've always wanted to like more than I actually do is "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World". I don't think I've ever been able to make it through the whole thing in one viewing.

Blame Robert Ludlum, who wrote the original novels on which the films are based.

Ha! You've got that right--if the movies are faithful in that regard which I would assume they are. (I've never read much in that genre besides the James Bond series).

On the other hand, you could take that Hollywood cynicism towards certain issues and see that such an attitude extends to the publishing world as well, though far less in degree.

Obviously this has a lot to do with relative age between first and subsequent viewings. I really can't think of a film I loved and later hated.


I think you're right. There's a huge frackin' difference between what most of us as very young children might like vs. what we like in our teens and it probably keeps changing as we get older. The test of a movie we REALLY like is what holds up the longest as we mature.

One movie I've always wanted to like more than I actually do is "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World". I don't think I've ever been able to make it through the whole thing in one viewing.

Same here. Though I watched all of it once or twice growing up, the humor now is too bland and the action and goofiness seems over done. I like my slapstick in the silent movies now. I wish we could see more of them on TMC.

I've always been a huge Arnold Schwarzenegger fan. The Terminator movies, Predator, even True Lies are classics to me. But, in an attempt to introduce my 12 year old nephew to Arnold, I bought Running Man on DVD. We sat down to watch it and it was almost painful to sit through. Even though it was set in the near future, it was hard to get past the 80's hair and Spandex. I was almost embarrassed to tell my nephew I once liked this movie.

Also, remember all the hype surrounding The Phantom Menace? I remember have a pretty good time with friends at the midnight showing. Now, each time I stumble across it on TV, I have to turn it off. I can't stomach the performances of Jake Lloyd and, of course, Jar Jar. Even Natalie Portman has apologized for her zombie-like performance in the movie. Sad.

- JJ

In the Running Man, you shouldn't forget to mention the game show dancers that looked a lot like the Solid Gold dancers. Definately dates this movie to the 80's

. . . One movie I've always wanted to like more than I actually do is "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World". I don't think I've ever been able to make it through the whole thing in one viewing.No one seems to have a neutral opinion of IAMMMMW; it's a love-it-or-hate-it movie. No matter how many times I watch it, there isn't a single character, scene, line of dialogue or piece of business in it that I've ever found funny.. . . There's a huge frackin' difference between what most of us as very young children might like vs. what we like in our teens and it probably keeps changing as we get older.I first saw Disney's Mary Poppins at the age of 10, and I was blown away by the special effects, the period settings, the musical numbers, the whole schmeer. Although most of the effects sequences hold up remarkably well for a movie made 45 years ago, I can barely stand to watch that picture today. The sets look hopelessly fake and studio-bound. The songs by the Sherman brothers are easy for children to learn and sing, but mind-numbingly simple and repetitive to adult ears. And then there's Dick Van Dyke's travesty of a "Cockney" accent.I'd bet a lot of movies that Tom Cruise has been in haven't fared well with age.But he still looks so cute dancing around and playing air guitar in his underwear!

One movie that I continue to enjoy more and more is Jaws. At 11 when I first saw it was all about the shark attacks. Later as the years went by I came to appreciate the music more..not just the dum-dum...dum-dum but all of it. After that is was the acting and style of shooting. Some things you just appreciate more when you mature. This from a man who still likes to make starships!!

One movie that I continue to enjoy more and more is Jaws. At 11 when I first saw it was all about the shark attacks. Later as the years went by I came to appreciate the music more..not just the dum-dum...dum-dum but all of it. After that is was the acting and style of shooting. Some things you just appreciate more when you mature. This from a man who still likes to make starships!!

OH ! I completly agree!! Jaws still kicks butt!!

OH ! I completly agree!! Jaws still kicks butt!!

Or bites butt :p

.I first saw Disney's Mary Poppins at the age of 10, and I was blown away by the special effects, the period settings, the musical numbers, the whole schmeer. Although most of the effects sequences hold up remarkably well for a movie made 45 years ago, I can barely stand to watch that picture today. The sets look hopelessly fake and studio-bound. The songs by the Sherman brothers are easy for children to learn and sing, but mind-numbingly simple and repetitive to adult ears. And then there's Dick Van Dyke's travesty of a "Cockney" accent.But he still looks so cute dancing around and playing air guitar in his underwear!Now see, Mary Poppins is my favorite movie. I first saw it when I was 15. The obvious falseness of the sets, to me, just enhances the overall feeling of fantasy. I guess we'll just have to disagree about the Sheman Brothers lyrics; I think they're quite clever. And Dick Van Dyke's performance is so good and endearing that the slippage of his accent just doesn't bother me.

To each his own, I guess. I have a hard time thinking of a single way the movie could be improved. It's Walt's crowning achievement, in my eyes.

Qapla'

SSB

And then there's Dick Van Dyke's travesty of a "Cockney" accent. But he still looks so cute dancing around and playing air guitar in his underwear!Now, hold on a minute! I NEVER said Dick Van Dyke looks cute dancing around and playing air guitar in his underwear!

Which movie did he do that in? :tongue:

Now, hold on a minute! I NEVER said Dick Van Dyke looks cute dancing around and playing air guitar in his underwear!That's what I heard; that's what America heard! :tongue:

I don't know what movie that was in, but I'll bet it would have been more entertaining than seeing Cruise do it!

Qapla'

SSB

One movie that I continue to enjoy more and more is Jaws. At 11 when I first saw it was all about the shark attacks. Later as the years went by I came to appreciate the music more..not just the dum-dum...dum-dum but all of it. After that is was the acting and style of shooting. Some things you just appreciate more when you mature. This from a man who still likes to make starships!!I was 14 years old when Jaws hit the theaters. I loved it the first time I saw it, and to this day it's one of my all-time favorite films; I've easily seen it more than 100 times. IMO it's one of those films that's a "perfect storm" of acting, directing, writing, editing, musical score, etc..

Other than things like clothing, cars, haircuts, etc... Jaws stands up well to viewing today. It is a movie that I still enjoy. I can't imagine how many people thought twice before going into the water after seeing it.

One of the reasons Jaws was successful is the fact that they had so many problems with the mechanical shark. Because of this fact, they couldn't over-use shots of the shark. Suspense can sometimes be better built from a viewers own imagination. Too bad most directors with big budgets seem to forget this lesson.

One of the reasons Jaws was successful is the fact that they had so many problems with the mechanical shark.You mean the shark wasn't REAL??

Say it aint' so! :(

You mean the shark wasn't REAL??

Say it aint' so! :(



Nope, made of plastic but still looks pretty cool to me!:thumbsup: