View Full Version : Remakes, Remakes and more Remakes
Jaruemalak 06-07-2009, 10:55 AM OK, I'm not sure how I feel about this, but according to Scriptgirl, TOTAL RECALL, SHORT CIRCUIT and FLIGHT OF THE NAVIGATOR are all in the process of being remade.
Kinda wish Hollywood would come up with an ORIGINAL idea. I mean, remakes can work... they just don't usually!
Model Man 06-07-2009, 05:40 PM As long as they keep away from 'that film from 1968'.
No! Don't say it! They'll hear!
Old_McDonald 06-07-2009, 05:56 PM I know how I feel about it. I haven't seen a single re-make that has ever been as good as the original. I wish they'd move on to something new like Rama, Ringworld or the Forever War.
Atemylunch 06-07-2009, 06:33 PM As long as they keep away from 'that film from 1968'.
No! Don't say it! They'll hear!
I'm sure it's making it's way around Hollywood as we post.
They thought it would resonate with audiences better if it took place only on earth, and everybody looked like Matrix rejects. But it stalls out on the early man sequence, not for any PC reasons. But how can they have sunglasses and leather jackets if tools are still in the future.
Lucky for us the types who would redo this movie, would be out cold into the Jupiter flight, or otherwise distracted by their dates.
BEBruns 06-07-2009, 06:45 PM I wish they'd move on to something new like Rama, Ringworld or the Forever War.
You mean like:
Children of Men
Pan’s Labyrinth
Wall-E
Sunshine
A.I.
Minority Report
The Golden Compass
Hancock
The Spiderwick Chronicles
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Cloverfield
Eagle Eye
Up
Monsters vs. Aliens
Moon
As I've pointed out in other threads, there are plenty of original movies out there. I'm betting if you look at the current movie listings in your area, the vast majority will not be remakes or sequels.
And it isn't that Hollywood can't come up with new ideas. It's just a question of what can get financed. And something that is just like something else that was successful is always going to have an easier time getting money.
John P 06-07-2009, 07:35 PM ^ I agree there are plenty of original films out there. But I also wish they'd just stop with the awful remakes of things that were fine the last time they were made. I wish they'd take the effort and money being put into said remakes and use it for something new and amazing.
Capt_L_Hogthrob 06-07-2009, 08:48 PM Why don't Hollywood just take one of the MANY movies that didn't do so well at the box office and redo them? Might make them better then the original released versions. Bad movies can always be improved on! Just a thought. :thumbsup:
Atemylunch 06-08-2009, 01:40 AM ^ I agree there are plenty of original films out there. But I also wish they'd just stop with the awful remakes of things that were fine the last time they were made. I wish they'd take the effort and money being put into said remakes and use it for something new and amazing.
I agree as well, it's silly to remake a classic. Or at least find a way to vail the fact the movie is a remake. Like Independence Day it was a remake of WOTW, not completely but there was enough there to see where the idea came from.
Why don't Hollywood just take one of the MANY movies that didn't do so well at the box office and redo them? Might make them better then the original released versions. Bad movies can always be improved on! Just a thought. :thumbsup:
They have been doing that as well, consider, "The Last Starfighter" the last I heard it's being shopped around. It was only in theaters for a few weeks, to use the word bomb would be an understatement(I liked it, I wanted to see it again, but it was out of theaters before I had a chance).
WShawn 06-08-2009, 04:31 AM If they do remake "The Last Starfighter" they should build physical models and film them with motion control cameras.:)
Shawn Marshall
Portland, OR
Jaruemalak 06-08-2009, 10:28 AM I'm waiting for a modernized Robby the Robot, breaking into the soon to be classic song, "I Exist Only To Serve"!
Old_McDonald 06-08-2009, 12:34 PM You mean like:
As I've pointed out in other threads, there are plenty of original movies out there. I'm betting if you look at the current movie listings in your area, the vast majority will not be remakes or sequels.
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Yes, there are a great number of original movies, it's just that when a classic story has been told, let's move on to the many great stories yet to be told. With today's technology, I can imagine some great visuals on a movie like ringworld.
Also, I don't see sequels as being "remakes". Some sequels and pre-quels are actually very good and original stories such as Beneath the Planet of the Apes (which offered closure to the story of what happened to Taylor), the Star Wars prequels and sequels and Aliens sequel were excellent. What I personally don't like are movies re-telling the same story for the sake of updated visuals. Not only is it seeing a repeat, there is the spoiled factor since one already knows the story
Eric K 06-08-2009, 01:21 PM I haven't seen a single re-make that has ever been as good as the original.
Soooo, you never saw "The Maltese Falcon"?
Lou Dalmaso 06-08-2009, 01:40 PM or the Wizard of Oz?
PhilipMarlowe 06-08-2009, 02:11 PM or Disney's "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea"
Fury3 06-08-2009, 03:30 PM Just leave the original JAWS alone! To me, that movie is a masterpiece.
Old_McDonald 06-08-2009, 03:52 PM or the Wizard of Oz? Remember "The Wiz"? that was a remake
sbaxter 06-08-2009, 03:55 PM Remember "The Wiz"? that was a remakeI'd consider that one more of an adaptation of the novel -- in some ways, it was closer to the source than the 1939 MGM musical. But just how old was Diana Ross when that was made? Too old for Dorothy, that's for sure.
Qapla'
SSB
Old_McDonald 06-08-2009, 03:55 PM Soooo, you never saw "The Maltese Falcon"? Which one? the 1931 or 1941 version?
Eric K 06-08-2009, 04:05 PM That's kinda the point...
WarbirdTA 06-08-2009, 04:23 PM I was watching AMC the other day,
And while they were showing Red Dawn, they came on (the two people "Hosting the movie") and said that it too, was going to be remade.
Not sure that one would be good as the original.
George :cool:
Old_McDonald 06-08-2009, 04:55 PM I was watching AMC the other day,
And while they were showing Red Dawn, they came on (the two people "Hosting the movie") and said that it too, was going to be remade.
Not sure that one would be good as the original.
George :cool:This opens the door for a good discussion. Topic: what movies should NOT be remade?
My votes go to:
1) 2001: A Space Oddyssey
2) Forbidden Planet
3) Earth vrs. the Flying Saucers
Atemylunch 06-08-2009, 05:37 PM I was watching AMC the other day,
And while they were showing Red Dawn, they came on (the two people "Hosting the movie") and said that it too, was going to be remade.
Not sure that one would be good as the original.
George :cool:
They have make that one in about 10 years. ;)
This opens the door for a good discussion. Topic: what movies should NOT be remade?
My votes go to:
1) 2001: A Space Oddyssey
2) Forbidden Planet
3) Earth vrs. the Flying Saucers
Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea
Logan's Run
Star Wars
Zorro 06-08-2009, 06:19 PM This opens the door for a good discussion. Topic: what movies should NOT be remade?
2,000 Maniacs
Plan 9 From Outer Space
The Last Remake of Beau Geste
John P 06-09-2009, 09:21 AM Soooo, you never saw "The Maltese Falcon"?
or the Wizard of Oz?
Remember "The Wiz"? that was a remake
Which one? the 1931 or 1941 version?
ZIP! Right over his head!
Lou Dalmaso 06-09-2009, 10:13 AM howza 'bout the ten commandments?
PhilipMarlowe 06-09-2009, 10:48 AM Logan's Run
You must not have ever read the book. i wouldn't mind seeing a more faithful version of the book, though I'm not sure it could be done. It's very much a book of it's time.
Daikaiju1 06-09-2009, 11:51 AM Yeah, guys at my work (Corporate Express, a div.of Staples Inc.) have been going on about I am Legend. When I pointed out it was a remake of The
0mega Man they were speechless...
Charleton who..?
Daikaiju1 06-09-2009, 11:54 AM [QUOTE=Old_McDonald;2859067]This opens the door for a good discussion. Topic: what movies should NOT be remade?
Robot Monster I love it, but once was enough.
Zorro 06-09-2009, 01:08 PM Yeah, guys at my work (Corporate Express, a div.of Staples Inc.) have been going on about I am Legend. When I pointed out it was a remake of The 0mega Man
... which was a remake of "The Last Man On Earth" starring Vincent Price.
And I'll be honest, I'm not so sure I don't consider "I Am Legend" to be the best movie of the three.
seaQuest 06-09-2009, 04:54 PM This opens the door for a good discussion. Topic: what movies should NOT be remade?
My votes go to:
1) 2001: A Space Oddyssey
2) Forbidden Planet
3) Earth vrs. the Flying Saucers
A remake of Forbidden Planet is currently under development at Warner Bros.
And I just saw a production still of Sam Worthington as Perseus in the remake of Clash of the Titans, also starring Liam Neeson and Ralph Fiennes.
miniature sun 06-09-2009, 05:09 PM Rendezvous With Rama has been in development hell for a long time now. Morgan Freeman bought the rights and tried to develop it with David Fincher directing but so far it's come to nothing.
I agree though that there is a vast amount of written SF that screams out to be filmed but is passed over for the more formulaic varieties.
Maybe with the release (and hopefully, success) of Moon, we might see a resurgence in intelligent SF films.
I remember around the time of Blade Runner, Ridley Scott saying that he thought that any story could be told through SF and that it might not be a bad thing to be known as the John Ford of the SF film....come on Ridley, how about a return to your roots...
seaQuest 06-09-2009, 05:17 PM Rendezvous With Rama has been in development hell for a long time now. Morgan Freeman bought the rights and tried to develop it with David Fincher directing but so far it's come to nothing.
I agree though that there is a vast amount of written SF that screams out to be filmed but is passed over for the more formulaic varieties.
Maybe with the release (and hopefully, success) of Moon, we might see a resurgence in intelligent SF films.
I remember around the time of Blade Runner, Ridley Scott saying that he thought that any story could be told through SF and that it might not be a bad thing to be known as the John Ford of the SF film....come on Ridley, how about a return to your roots...
He IS returning to his roots. He's slated to direct a prequel to ALIEN.
Hey, anybody remember the development of Roger Zelazny's Lord of Light series of novels as movies in the late '70's? The ones where the sets were going to do double-duty as a theme park? Turned out it was all just a scheme to bilk backers.
John P 06-09-2009, 05:20 PM ... which was a remake of "The Last Man On Earth" starring Vincent Price.
And I'll be honest, I'm not so sure I don't consider "I Am Legend" to be the best movie of the three.
If they'd gone with the original ending, they'd have aced it.
DarthForge 06-10-2009, 01:05 AM I know how I feel about it. I haven't seen a single re-make that has ever been as good as the original.
May I also throw in "The Thing". Carpenter's adaption never put me to
sleep like the original always did.
darkwanderer 06-10-2009, 01:26 AM Plan 9 From Outer Space
I don't agree. For a movie that's considered the absolute bottom of the barrel, there's no place to go but... but then again we're talkin' Hollywood and it could set a new standard of low. LOL :tongue:
John P 06-10-2009, 09:36 AM May I also throw in "The Thing". Carpenter's adaption never put me to
sleep like the original always did.
Oh, the original never put me to sleep, I think it's still an awesome film. But I agree the remake is excellent as well.
Old_McDonald 06-10-2009, 08:39 PM A remake of Forbidden Planet is currently under development at Warner Bros.
And I just saw a production still of Sam Worthington as Perseus in the remake of Clash of the Titans, also starring Liam Neeson and Ralph Fiennes.
Well, we can hope they don't screw up the C57D. When they remade LIS, I thought the saucer was cheesy being almost shaped like a kidney bean.
John P 06-11-2009, 09:43 AM Looked more like one of those little-kid's change purses to me. :)
Zorro 06-11-2009, 09:57 AM Well, we can hope they don't screw up the C57D. When they remade LIS, I thought the saucer was cheesy being almost shaped like a kidney bean.
I'd say the shape of the spaceship was the least of that movie's problems.
PhilipMarlowe 06-11-2009, 11:45 AM I'd say the shape of the spaceship was the least of that movie's problems.
Yeah, even Mimi Rogers and Heather Graham in skintight rubber suits couldn't save that one. Even if the Jupiter II had been completely faithful to the TOS J2, the movie still would have been a turkey.
TAY666 06-11-2009, 07:55 PM Yeah, even Mimi Rogers and Heather Graham in skintight rubber suits couldn't save that one. Even if the Jupiter II had been completely faithful to the TOS J2, the movie still would have been a turkey.
I guess I must be one of the few that actually liked the LIS movie.
Gemini1999 06-11-2009, 10:23 PM I guess I must be one of the few that actually liked the LIS movie.
No, there is another.....(what movie is that from, eh?)
I liked the general concept of the LiS film. I was somewhat disappointed with the production design as it just seemed too removed from anything that was from the Irwin Allen version, but I knew that it would be updated and so I was willing to live with that.
The story......ehh....I'm not too sure about the time travel bit. I would have liked to seen something that focused more on the Robinson's struggle to survive marooned in space, but in the film, we have our monster, we have a bit of time travel, we see everyone die, but then *poof* the reset button is pushed and everything's back to normal and they escape their island in space after only a day or two.
My other gripe with the film is that the modern version of the Robinson family was just too hopelessly dysfunctional. I know that was an attempt to have something for audiences to identify with since an alamingly large percentage of modern American families would seem to mirror that way of life. It's just that if this family were chosen to go into space as one of the first colonists, you'd think that they would choose one that got along.
I do pull the DVD out about once a year just for a bit of a look back at it. I think that one of the biggest disappointments was the hopes that the studio had for re-launching the franchise. The film was supposed to be the first of at least 3 films, it had already launched a comic book series that picked up where the movie left off and there was supposed to be an animated series as well. (This is all from memory from an article written way back when, so if it's not quite right, just feel free to correct me on this). When the studio was less than pleased with the final box office numbers, all of the other proposed material was left behind.
Bryan
Just Plain Al 06-12-2009, 02:38 PM I, also, like the LIS movie. I pull out the DVD every couple of months, I do, however, agree with Bryan about the dyfuntionality of the Robinsons.
IndyRC_Racer 06-12-2009, 02:46 PM No, there is another.....(what movie is that from, eh?)
Empire Strikes back said by Yoda to Obi Wan Kenobi.
I thought LIS movie was okay. Nothing I would add to my DVD collection but good enough that I'd watch it if I happened by it on Cable.
Arronax 06-12-2009, 04:02 PM A bit OT but wasn't Peter Jackson supposed to film a remake of "The Dam Busters?" Great WW2 film that could stand updating. And what changes could you make to a Lancaster bomber?
Jim
72challenger 06-12-2009, 04:50 PM Time Cop, with John Cena as the lead :thumbsup:
I hear a re-start of Ghostbusters is in the works. That should be interesting.
John P 06-12-2009, 06:05 PM A bit OT but wasn't Peter Jackson supposed to film a remake of "The Dam Busters?" Great WW2 film that could stand updating. And what changes could you make to a Lancaster bomber?
Jim
They'd have to rename the squadron dog, thus violating canon. :D
Jaruemalak 06-13-2009, 05:34 AM They'd have to rename the squadron dog, thus violating canon. :D
I've heard that is actually quite a problem with the remake; how to handle the dog's name. (For those who don't know, let's just say it was a dark brown dog who's name is a racially offensive term that starts with "N" and Chris Rock uses in his act... a LOT.)
If it were just changing a dog's name, no problem... but the dog's name was used as a code name for the successful breaching of the Möhne Dam, thus historically important. So the problem Jackson faces is: if he goes with historical accuracy and uses the name, a lot of people will be offended because of the use of the word. If he CHANGES the dog's name, a lot of people will be offended because history is being pushed aside for political connectedness. As he put it in an interview, "I'm damned if I do and I'm damned if I don't!"
John P 06-13-2009, 09:49 AM As he put it in an interview, "I'm damned if I do and I'm damned if I don't!"
There's a joke with the movie title in there somewhere, but I just woke up.
PhilipMarlowe 06-13-2009, 02:29 PM Speaking of remakes, I've been surprised how good the reviews of The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 have been. Based on the other Tony Scott/Denzel Washington flicks, I pretty much figured this was going to be really bad.
Still, I'm too much a fan of the original to check it out till it hits DVD. And based on the trailers, John Travolta's villian is going to be a huge switch from how Robert Shaw played his villian. And while Washington can be good in some roles, he's no Walter Matthau. And Matthau was really good in the original.
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