I have an idea I want to pass on to all of you nitro guys. I was thinking of adding a new class to the GASCAR nitro series next year. It will be based around the new Protoform COT body. My initial thoughts were to run this body, with the splitter and rear intact, using the supplied wing only. The minimum weight of the car would be increased to 50oz, and use a fixed gear ratio of maybe 17/66. The engine would be an available .12 engine, maybe the Dynamite 12SPD, which is only $79 at Tower. The engine would have a fixed 1.20 restrictor, which we can have made. The class would be restricted to two front "S" tires, with two "R" rear tires, maybe in either Pink or Green, with a Net on the right rear. The front end would be the stock Associated with stock caster blocks.

This would give newbies or someone who wants a less "technical" venue that is slower and easier to learn nitro. It would replace the old "Sportsman Class" that we ran a few years ago. I dont want to use the .09 engine due to modifications that have to be made to the engine to make it useable. I want something easily purchased and ready to run. I want to make it easier to break into oval nitro.

Let me know what you guys think, okay? This is not in the works yet, just floating around in my head to add to the interest of nitro oval. Your input is welcomed, as always in GASCAR.

Sincerely,
Tim Smith, GASCAR

I don't know about the two R's on the rear or the two S's on the front. The dynamite SPD when tuned up good is actually as strong if not stronger than the .15, so might want to rethink that. Other than those two probs it just might go over O.K. I have wanted to try one of those COT bodies just to see what the car felt like. I vote we get KEVIN to test the idea. Since he is such a good test DUMMY. O.K-- well he's atleast a good dummy.

GOT TO GO __RED RIDER AWAY :p

Make the tires BSR Spec Radials. All Pink, 2L fronts, L LR, R RR with nets on the Right side.

Good idea on the BSR spec tire idea. I think that might be the way to go on this. As far as the Dynamite engine, only one i know of in the GASCAR series..... Chris Batchelor, one of our racers runs one. Has plenty of speed, but not faster than the OS12. Any engine we run will have to be restricted. Its a matter of availability. Thanks for the input guys. Keep it coming in.

Scott, the BSR spec caps come in S only with nets for the right an pro-lite on the left.
Rumming them this summer in 2400 spec.

I thought they came the way I mentioned, I was going from what was run for handouts at the last 2 Nats at Easley. What do I know? LOL

Are all 4 corners "S"?

The tire issue we can rectify with a call to John Foister. But I think the spec tire idea is a good thing, whatever the size.

Here are some thoughts from someone that is not racing right now.

The Spec tire idea always sounds good in the beginning but after you live with it for a while you see some holes in the idea. One: the idea of a class like this is to draw in new racers; making them buy different tires from what the normally run is a huge deterrent to that idea.

Two: Most all racers now days run Pinks, the Spec tires are all pinks. The cost for a set of Specs is the same as the cost for regular tires…………so where is the savings or the even playing field? All you are making them give up is stagger. PLUS you are completely alienating the guy that runs on a track like Rock Hill that can’t use Pinks.

Three: and this one I think is the biggest one. Most new nitro racers will not come from a brand new guy, they will come from the electric crowd and they already have their tires; you will be asking them to take a step backwards plus they will have to buy new tires that they can’t use anywhere else.

PLUS it’s just another thing that the tech guy will have to look at EVERY heat and main! Why make a rule that you can hardly enforce?

I guess I have always been biased against Spec tires from the beginning but all I have ever seen that they did was take away a tuning tool (stagger) that either the new guy needed to know how to use or the old guy was use to using.

Just my thoughts.

Hey Mclin- Any plans on running anytime soon? Hope your work has picked up with summer starting and all. Look forward to seeing you soon. O.K-enough with the being nice crap, Scott--YOU SUCK--- Kevin --you're mean, a bully-- Roger Douglas is my hero--!!

Later-RED RIDER:p

I sure am glad you car does not run like your yapper.

Oh Yeah- you're just mad because i get to go to Easely this weekend. Ya POOR looser. I get to go out run Kev and Old # 3. You get to sit at home and stew because we are all going to have fun. HEHEHEHEHE


RED RIDER AWAAAY:thumbsup:

The laugh is on you Little Red Riding Hood.

While you are at Easley staring at that black top I will be boarding a Cruise ship headed toward the Carribean.

Yo-Ho-Ho all the Rum for me!!!

Get all the practice you can Pfe-Phe from what I hear, you need it.

You guys better stop, before Hank comes in to this.

Scott- You're right,,,, I WANNA GO, I WANNA GO, I WANNA GO. I tell ya what there good buddy, You go to Easely and I will be the nice guy and carry your wife to the Carribean.

Hmmm let me think about that and get back to you.

Heck I'LL even kick in the RUM -- I don't like that stuff.
But you must baby sit Kevin while you're there. I normally put in time out' or in the WALL , which ever comes first.

RED RIDER AWAAAY:wave:

We may as well go ahead and add 1/4 scales too! Write a set of rules to go along!

We already race with 1/4 scales. Its our regular program at LPR...You don't want me writing rules for you guys, Tim.......lol

There are two totally different types of people you are going to attract to nitro racing: Those that can drive already and know at least a little about set up and those that do not know a thing. The best thing to attract the electric guys is to drive fast, drive clean and put on a good show. The best thing you can do to attract youth or newbies is to find an affordable slower (but not dog slow) car for them to lay laps down without having to dish out huge bucks or have several sets of tires and be a setup genius. This will require more Tech inspection effort to keep it fair.They need to concentrate on driving not complicated setups or tire selection. The biggest thing you can do for a newbie is what was done for me when I started, spend time with the young/new guys and help them enjoy the hobby. Nothing is more frustrating then not getting help when you are the new guy. The first thing that I got when I purchased my Coyote car was tech advise and a promise of some track time help to tune. Nothing can replace this in our hobby. I look forward to racing with you guys in Sept. Man, is it hot in Iraq!

P.S. I am glad you closed that "fluid on the track" thread. I have never heard anything so silly in my life. But it was entertaining.