what do you guys think for classes next season?

my opinion is:
10.5, 13.5, 17.5 pan car
All classes SMC 25C single cell, Novak motor, Nationwide body.

Have an in-eligable list for 17.5...if you have TQ'd or Won an A-main at a NEOT, BRL, or Snowbirds, you are not eligable to run 17.5.

bump-ups in all classes.

i personally think that the 17.5 class could be the cot class that is gaining popularity at a lot of northeast tracks. as far as 10.5 single it could be good but also the is alot of of people that presently have 21.5 gear and could see that as the faster class for 1 more year. just my 2 cents

Tommy have you tried 10.5 1 cell yet and if so how was it?

i personally think that the 17.5 class could be the cot class that is gaining popularity at a lot of northeast tracks. as far as 10.5 single it could be good but also the is alot of of people that presently have 21.5 gear and could see that as the faster class for 1 more year. just my 2 cents


IMO two classes only 13.5 single cell and 21.5 two cell pan car.

Yes keep it simple. Just have 13.5/1c and 21.5/2c.

how about before we plan classes for next year we make sure we will have a tour. i was hoping to see more people support what heath had started.
we really do not need 3 classes..... 1 cell 17.5 class should belong to the guys starting out or whorun at the back of the feild of 13.5. that class should be a learning class with help from some of the guys in the faster classes.

How about SK only :p

See you all in the fall..

1 cell 17.5 cot body for the learning racers and 13.5 single cell pan car for anyone and i think 10.5 single cell/21.5 2 cell mix and it will fix itself by the end of the season.just like 17.5 4 cell with 13.5 single cell did here in this area. just my 13 cents

Why give the beginners the COT body, don't you think it would be harder to dial that body in? I say make the faster classes run the cot bodies.......

just my .02, can't spare the other .11 ;)

spec truck bodies worked!lol

Even thou I couldn't attend many events this year (NOET or other) I'm not really happy with any of the one cell classes, 13.5 is just a tad to slow for me and 10.5 is a little to fast for some of the tracks. I think we need two classes to keep it seperated, I think the best would be 1 cell 13.5 and 17.5, even thou I don't like either class. I think it will be the best for the majority.

I think we should have 2 sk classes. One with battery slots and one without battery slots, it seems to be a big issue with some. They all seem like nice guys and I think we should cater to them.:thumbsup:

I think 2 classes is good. 1cell 13.5/ 2cell 21.5.

Why have to buy two different batteries? 1 cell/2 cell?
Walsh, people who run unapproved cars shouldn't make jokes, give me a ring sometime left number on other stupid thread.

Not that I plan on running the whole tour except for maybe Glens Falls and Maximus, but...

I would go with 13.5 1 cell, and either 10.5 1 cell or 21.5 2 cell.

I hope that we stick with Novak motors and the current SMC 25c pack for 13.5 at least for another year.

I think there should be 3 classes 13.5 1cell, 21.5 2cell and I think that the 17.5 1cell with Macallister COT and Spec tires should be included as a New England Spec COT
Class. The Macallister COT because, it's going to be more durable and it's the body that 3 other New England tracks are going to use for the COT Class to keep it uniform and help keep cost down.

Bob T

i only ran one neot race so far but i'm looking to run it more next year. i agree with valentine... 17.5 single cell and 13.5 single cell.

ban novak motors... at least untill i finally find a good one LOL.

I Don't get it. If Dirt oval can run 2 cell 17.5 and 13.5. WHY CAN"T CARPET GUYS DO IT! What can't handle the speed? Why don't you all run 1cell 21.5, maybe that might be to fast.

I think we should have 2 sk classes. One with battery slots and one without battery slots, it seems to be a big issue with some. They all seem like nice guys and I think we should cater to them.:thumbsup:

I think 2 classes is good. 1cell 13.5/ 2cell 21.5.

you had to see that coming, when a big time company gets involved they do what they want, its the people who run in the class that allow it to happen should be just as much to blame. Way to ruin the class, might as well put shocks on it and let it rip...

you had to see that coming, when a big time company gets involved they do what they want, its the people who run in the class that allow it to happen should be just as much to blame. Way to ruin the class, might as well put shocks on it and let it rip...

Don't even.

Don't even.

i did

you had to see that coming, when a big time company gets involved they do what they want, its the people who run in the class that allow it to happen should be just as much to blame. Way to ruin the class, might as well put shocks on it and let it rip...

are you freakin kidding me???

how many different chassis did you make???
oh and you changed the stock SK body as well and only had it for the KSKT team for a little while. now a company puts battery slots in and it is the end of the class. huh???
maybe eric can make more sense!:drunk:

we could go back to the way the class started

are you freakin kidding me???

how many different chassis did you make???
oh and you changed the stock SK body as well and only had it for the KSKT team for a little while. now a company puts battery slots in and it is the end of the class. huh???
maybe eric can make more sense!:drunk:

we could go back to the way the class started

Alan you have NO CLUE what your talking about....so this time dont bother puting your useless 2 cents in it.

I designed my own SK body for a reason, we were tired of getting beat around with pricing my the other current sk body provider, I could make it and produce much cheaper than we were buying it.
As for having a body for only the Team drivers is a bunch of crap, I gave out 5 bodies FOR FREE for strickly TESTING!!!

I do hope eric can take it to the next level it deserves but I am sure it wont involve chaning drastic chassis changes from the current rules that have been put forth.

I made 3 different tplate chassis, one basicaly for each year.
1 solid chassis plate....

One car of which you drove at the birds....

If you lowering the battery .120 is not going to make a difference. This is not Formula1, btw Nmih are on the way out so you don't even need slots.

this horse is dead stop beating it
battery slots wont even matter any more with lipo packs
as far as my useless 2 cents you were not there. you didnt see anything.

It's not about lowering the batterys, it's about having holes in the chassis. It give the car flex and an advantage. the class was to be lowtech, and if you don't stop it soon the class is over.

that car did not flex much at all in fact the KSKT car has more flex to it

hi pace:wave:
ya you too ron

for the NEOT next years we should go with 1cells 13.5 and 1cells 10.5...with the sk class!! we should keep the batterie and motors rules...novak and SMC packs!

Pace

for the NEOT next years we should go with 1cells 13.5 and 1cells 10.5...with the sk class!! we should keep the batterie and motors rules...novak and SMC packs!

Pace

the ral question is would you run more than 1 class? lol.....:tongue:

How about 17.5 2cell? Lift and drive.:woohoo: Not peg and steer.:tongue:
Just wondering.:beatdeadhorse:

Heath Who won the car I donated for this class? I would like to know thanks...
also any chance of getting those decals to me or eric this summer?

Tommy have you tried 10.5 1 cell yet and if so how was it?

I have not tried it. Jason tried it and said it felt very similar in speed to 13.5/4cell.


we really do not need 3 classes.....

But you run 4 classes sometimes? what is wrong with 3 pan car classes? most will run 10.5/1 cell and 13.5/1 cell OR 13.5/1cell and 17.5/1 cell. Some will just run 1 class of course.

Why give the beginners the COT body, don't you think it would be harder to dial that body in?



From what I've seen, the COT body slows the car down and makes it turn much less aggressive than the Nationwide body. The cot body appears to be easier to drive.

Not directed at jbm:

I think running COT bodies is opening a can of worms. Some tracks that run the COT are going with McAllister only. This creates a problem...they will most likely not be competitive at tracks that allow any COT body. Racers from tracks that allow any COT will have to change bodies to go to the McAllister only track. Now, this really isn't an issue for the track I'm talking about because they get a decent turnout every week, but at other tracks (Maximus), they cannot afford to turn away racers (due to a non approved body). It will also be very difficult to switch from one class to another because of the body. It seems like the hobby has went through enough transitions lately, I don't get why we'd want to create any more than we need to. I can just see the whole COT deal causing problems. But the guys that run that class can do whatever they want.

as far as 10.5 single it could be good but also the is alot of of people that presently have 21.5 gear and could see that as the faster class for 1 more year. just my 2 cents

Aren't you going to buy new batteries next season anyways? You could save $60 if you ran the single cell. I know for a fact there are SEVERAL racers interested in running 10.5/1 cell that will not buy a 2 cell because of the expense.

I'm not really happy with any of the one cell classes, 13.5 is just a tad to slow for me and 10.5 is a little to fast for some of the tracks. I think we need two classes to keep it seperated, I think the best would be 1 cell 13.5 and 17.5, even thou I don't like either class. I think it will be the best for the majority.

10.5 is too fast? It's the same speed as 13.5/4 cell and we had great racing last season. 17.5/1 cell is reallly slow ya know.

tommy you are all good!!! lol....:wave:

Mr. Behler....i prefer running one class and doing good than running 4 class and running so so!! remember.. lol... if you want to beat i guy who have win 3 snowbirds nationals...you better focus on 1 class....and you know what?? i m doing that and i beat you 2 time in a row at maximus!!! hahahaha:tongue::thumbsup::wave: you open the door my friend!!

i hope next time you will run only one class ......so you will not say that i beat you because you running 2 or more class!!:tongue:

see you and be ready for the next one!!

Pace

Mr. Behler....i prefer running one class and doing good than running 4 class and running so so!! remember.. lol... if you want to beat i guy who have win 3 snowbirds nationals...you better focus on 1 class....and you know what?? i m doing that and i beat you 2 time in a row at maximus!!! hahahaha:tongue::thumbsup::wave: you open the door my friend!!

i hope next time you will run only one class ......so you will not say that i beat you because you running 2 or more class!!:tongue:

see you and be ready for the next one!!

Pace

you clearly had a better car and that is purely my fault. no excuses
can you beat me in 2 classes lol.....lol:tongue:
1 class for me next time

not too sure about the 2 times in a row though unless your last name is miller???
i finished 2nd in 21.5 at iron maximus

pacedont make me buy a 2 cell lipo!!!!hahaha and i will beat behler too hahahaha

all im saying is every guy out there that has 2 cell stuff then needs to go buy a new 90 paperweight because they dont have 10.5 motors. it is a viscous circle right now, but all i said is 21.5 is the biggest class at most tracks and guys are allready geared up for it.

run 21.5 with 10.5 1cell and let them work it out later in the year. i think there about the same speed just like 13.5 4cell was nearly identical to the 21.5 2cell. look at the laptimes at just about any track. i personaly dont care what the rules are because ill probly only be able to run a few of the tour races. but i know ill be running 1cell classes

joe thats what i said before.now we are beating on the same drum

finally someone agrees with me. yayyyyyyy

no tour 2010 ask bo jo

It will be interesting to see if anyone does
step up to the plate to take it over...
Seems like a lot of hard work, lots of time..
And the rewards are pretty thin.. http://planetsmilies.net/angry-smiley-166.gif (http://planetsmilies.net)

Too many people want to be catered to. Just make the classes and if you want to run, get the equipment.

And how in the hell can something be too fast for some tracks??? JUST LET OFF THE THROTTLE.

What's more accurate is, too fast for the talent out there.

Hold it wide open and steer??? NO FUN FOR ME.

Ken, I think at the very least you should have the courtesy to e-mail and tell me why you can't pay me.

Too many people want to be catered to. Just make the classes and if you want to run, get the equipment.

And how in the hell can something be too fast for some tracks??? JUST LET OFF THE THROTTLE.

What's more accurate is, too fast for the talent out there.

Hold it wide open and steer??? NO FUN FOR ME.

YES!!!! I agree with the Lift and No fun part. Over power and drive the hell out of it in the corners. Thats what they do in dirt oval. 17.5 and 13.5 2 cell.

Too many people want to be catered to. Just make the classes and if you want to run, get the equipment.


You're right, Bret..
But that still doesn't address the problem of so much work,
to do it right, with nearly nothing to gain..
Except more bellyaching and grief... :(

You can go through all the trouble and BS to do a great job
on nearly everything, for the whole season,
inject new life into a dead horse,
and can't even get a 'bye' on one controversial decision.....

Hopefully, for the guys that really enjoyed the tour atmosphere,
someone steps up.
But I sure don't envy the guy that tries it.

Someone asked something about where were the 'locals'...
If 'locals' means, the ordinary guys that race on a weekend,
and would never have a prayer in a big event,
I'd say a lot of them just can't afford it...
Heck, the 'local scene' saw quite a drop in attendance just in weekly races..

If we could ensure 75 people at each event, that wouldn't bitch, I know a few people that would step up and run the tour. None want to spend all that time and effort to try and help and get a few people that complain at every event. We all don't like each other, but that shouldn't prohibited us from spending a day at the track enjoying RC. We take time away from our families to race toy cars, but some of us always find a way to bitch the entire time. Bash away

If we could get people who like to race and have fun and not alter rules both the racer and DIRECTOR as they go to see fit for themselves than we all would have a good time racing under the same roof. There was a time once that we all use to share laughs, food, help one another but that since went away.

Its no wonder we have been losing tracks in the northeast. Dont think for one second there is one particular group or one person who has ruined or help screw it up. 3 different directors have help mess it up just as much as the racers involved 2 of which were both the director and racer. I for one will be glad to see someone else take it over and hopefully bring it in the right direction. OK bash away.<----- someone should have that as a hobbytalk handle

Ken, No more bashing from me. We have both made mistakes and see those actions of ourselfs and others in different ways. We both want to see racers at the track having fun. Arguing over what has happened is not going to help. Hope to see you a track soon to talk and move on. If you want to talk more you have my number or we can PM. Mike

It's not about lowering the batterys, it's about having holes in the chassis. It give the car flex and an advantage. the class was to be lowtech, and if you don't stop it soon the class is over.
The sks stopped being lowtech years ago....Still don't see why center shocks haven't been allowed yet...:rolleyes: