http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/headlines/cup/05/06/mmartin.full.time.2010/index.html

Check out the picture of Mark Martin's car on top of the acticle page. I look at the car and I find it pretty good looking.

Notice though that there are two elements that have been cropped out of the frame: the splitter and the wing. All it would take for NASCAR to make their cars likeable again is to just do exactly like the photographer did, just chop off the splitter and the wing (and put a spoiler of course).

The wing was added for a reason though...the car is such a turd aero-wise, they needed the added stability.

I use to hate them, but now I dont mind them. The old cars didn't look right either.

They should make a template the FITS the showroom car, then run that. If Ford/Chevy/Dodge/Toyota is slow because of Aero, then they better get busy making a better car.

To heck with this "sorta template crap"!!! "Stock" car racing has not resembled their namebagdes in years. I say run 'em like they look in the showroom. I guess they had better get busy making some two door coupes. Those guys are going to look funny racing 4-door sedans. Well I guess no more funny than racing around in the shoeboxes they are now.

i have the protoform body if any body wants cot by proline racing part#1230-30

I think they should run the restrictor plate track bodies.

They should make a template the FITS the showroom car, then run that. If Ford/Chevy/Dodge/Toyota is slow because of Aero, then they better get busy making a better car.

has a cup car ever looked exactly like a showroom car??

has a cup car ever looked exactly like a showroom car??
uh huh

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii312/BudJ63/nascar-5-470-0209.jpg

has a cup car ever looked exactly like a showroom car??

He beat me to it. But yes they did.

There was an excellent segment on NASCAR NOW yesterday with Cale Yarborough and Joey Logano talking about Darlington and the changes to the track and the cars since Cale quit driving. Cale told Joey that they used to go get their cars from the local dealership, put in a big radiator, roll bar, paint 'em up and go racin'!

That is when stock cars looked like stock cars. :thumbsup:

Except for the spoiler

J-Dub back in the day they did not run spoilers, but they did run big block!!!

That body style Monti Carlo came stock with the spoiler on the street car

heck - they even had a LITTLE spoiler back then!!

http://www.mikecurb.com/images/curb-car-3.jpg

. Those guys are going to look funny racing 4-door sedans. Well I guess no more funny than racing around in the shoeboxes they are now.

http://www.knfilters.com/images/press/remington1.jpg

would be nice to see @ a cup race - lol

Could always go back to something likd this

http://rhost1.zfx.com/OZX/Blobs/blob58956.pjpeg

Mark Hurley of Jonesborough, TN in 1963 wheeled the No. 61 Ford Galaxy 500 in NASCAR Grand National Series races. This photo was taken at RAMBI Speedway in Myrtle Beach. The car was sponsored by Fred Ford Auto Sales in Blountville, TN. (Photo courtesy of Tony Morton)

Well they will never look like true "stock cars" again. In the start, the drivers drove their cars to the track, changed tires and ran them. Best tuners and drivers won.

As the dollars have increased, my interest has dropped.

....bodies are a funny thing...

At our local Saturday Night DIRT TRACK - we had a class called "Street Stocks", it was a SUPER Popular class, but the rules started getting away and the $$$ being spent went through the ROOF....of course the class entry number started to DIE.

3 years ago the cars still used STOCK Camaro body panels....

NOW they look like THIS

http://ccmsm.com/images/evw_superstreets.jpg

I liked the days back in the 80's and 90's when you had Thunderbird's, Monte Carlos and the Pontiac Gran Prix. They more resembled the stuff coming out of Detroit, and who can forget all the whining about who had the aero advantage.
Since NASCAR went to the aero equal cars, I have lost interest. At least with the new car, it takes some of the aero out and puts the driver back in.

My two cents!:thumbsup:

that is when racing was racing now it's more about marketing and making money!!! ROLLING BILBOARDS.....

Street Stocks anywhere have always seemed to be the class everyone loves to push the envelope on rules. When that happenes, the tracks give in more and more and suddenly you have a class that spins out of control. It's no different anwhere...

My first street stock... Car $2500, Motor $1500 2002

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/126/l_6132368e097922a542829fe2f7d70886.jpg

My last street stock... Car $11000, Motor $7800 2006

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/122/l_493ef9744d446c2dd2093a1195f66380.jpg

Fast forward to 2009.... A whole lot more money, a whole lot more fun even though I don't get to drive this one.

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/31/l_ebada70a50ba43d1a3bd3fbb52fff235.jpg

COT's look like some kid's touring car that lost its front bumper cover.

The last time I was at the World 100 at Eldora, the winner drove an old Chevelle with a vinyl top. Look at what they race there now.
:dude:

I liked the days back in the 80's and 90's when you had Thunderbird's, Monte Carlos and the Pontiac Gran Prix. They more resembled the stuff coming out of Detroit, and who can forget all the whining about who had the aero advantage.
Since NASCAR went to the aero equal cars, I have lost interest. At least with the new car, it takes some of the aero out and puts the driver back in.

My two cents!:thumbsup:


I liked the days back in the 60's,and 70's when the cars were the stuff coming out of Detroit.

NOW This was a RACE CAR!!

http://image.circletrack.com/f/9048560/ctrp_0711_01_z+fireball_grand_national+exterior_vi ew_front_end.jpg

Sweet 57 Ford 500 bet ya it,s got a 312 y-block in it......Love the doughnuts down the right side :thumbsup:

Those are some cool pictures!

Quote= Harry Hogg: "Ain't nothin' stock about a stock car!"

Sad

COT's look like some kid's touring car that lost its front bumper cover.

The last time I was at the World 100 at Eldora, the winner drove an old Chevelle with a vinyl top. Look at what they race there now.
:dude:

I personally liked Scotts silver car a few years back In practice for
the World 100 (IN the WALL):wave:

no one has any pictures of the first cup cars with wings dodge daytona/plymouth suprbird:thumbsup::thumbsup:

here are real race cars eventhough the C.O.T. is growing on me

no one has any pictures of the first cup cars with wings dodge daytona/plymouth suprbird:thumbsup::thumbsup:

How many do you want? Now they only ran them two years but I got you covered.

someone should post pics or vid of when the pit crew wore street clothes and had a cig hanging from there lips.

Here's a pic of one of MY favorite drivers back in the early 70's.... Ray Elder in the 96 car. I believe this was at RIVERSIDE INTERNATIONAL RACEWAY in CALIF. (Road Course) Note the GAS CAN on the RH Side!

http://www.bee70.com/indexpettycharger/This%20is%20my%20story%20of%20our%20car_files/image167.jpg

Check out THOSE uniforms.....I remember they looked more like Pajamas

Lots of good stuff in that pic.............check out the pit box!

I bet they had a open trailer too. I think the windows are real glass too