In my humble opinion , even racing magnatraction afx cars is not REAL slot car racing.
Old eldons , t-jets , non magnatraction , etc , cars with semi- realistic speeds that you actually had to drive is real slot car racing , all the rest are just like video games , there is no sport in it, like fishing in a bucket.

Slotcarkid------ How many magnet car races of any significance have you won? Do you have any experience racing either type? If you were able to race with adequate power it makes a big difference.

For a second post, that's a pretty brave one. Gotta say though, I'm with you 99%. I still willfully accept the magnatractions. Though unrealistically fast, you can still "drive" 'em and slide 'em. Tjets still my favs. Other than the obvious realism factor with my choices of rides, I guess the biggest thing that makes me agree with you is that I simply can't drive anything else aggressively with out letting my eye hand coordination limitations shine through.

Great 2nd post. I don't usually feed the trolls, but.... How about this... No slot cars are "real" racing. There's no suspension, no steering, no gear changing, the only control is throttle, yada, yada, yada. People who race 1/32 look down at HO. People who race RC look down at all slot cars. People who race 1:1 cars look down.... You get the idea. There's always someone further up the food chain who looks down at what you're doing. So what?

Define "real" racing. Magnet racing is as real as no mag racing. It's just different. I've raced magnet, no-mag, weak mag, etc. Generally, the faster the car, and stronger the magnets, the more adrenaline rush I get. Now I'm no longer able to control the modified or RO class cars at competitive speeds, but I still enjoy running them. Run what ya want & quit'cher bichin'.

Wow, what a great post..... I only hope yours get better between number 2 and number 16 like bemoore's.

Race what you like and leave the rest for others. Clearly you're trolling, just be give your humble opinion somewhere else, ok?

This is like a Nascar driver saying that F1 racing
is easy because of their downforce.My dad can
beat your dad.

Oh my , I am not being a troll at all , I said it was MY OPINION . I am 50 years old and have raced a lot of cars and won my share of many types of racing , but , I like realistic racing , not cars that you can put on a piece of track and hold the track upside down and shake it like hell to get it to fall off!
And the speeds are so unrealistic the only entertainment value is watching a cat try to catch it , and I don't like cats!
Yeah , they are like video games , I can play and win video games too , but with slot cars , I like to actually be able to see the car and the beauty of the model , not just a colored streak flying around the track at Mach V
No trolling intended , just an old school racer here.
I still have a photo of my Father and I , who died at age 76 in 1991 , racing on my old Eldon 2 in 1 set in 1967 , not that was fun racing , the speeds were realistic and you had to be a good racer to drive THOSE cars , lol.
Lighten up folks , I was just giving my opinion of scale auto racing at it's finest, the ones that were more than just "sucked to the track with mags and a ton of glue on the tires!~

* now that was fun racing

Oh my , I am not being a troll at all , I said it was MY OPINION . I am 50 years old and have raced a lot of cars and won my share of many types of racing , but , I like realistic racing , not cars that you can put on a piece of track and hold the track upside down and shake it like hell to get it to fall off!
And the speeds are so unrealistic the only entertainment value is watching a cat try to catch it , and I don't like cats!
Yeah , they are like video games , I can play and win video games too , but with slot cars , I like to actually be able to see the car and the beauty of the model , not just a colored streak flying around the track at Mach V
No trolling intended , just an old school racer here.
I still have a photo of my Father and I , who died at age 76 in 1991 , racing on my old Eldon 2 in 1 set in 1967 , not that was fun racing , the speeds were realistic and you had to be a good racer to drive THOSE cars , lol.
Lighten up folks , I was just giving my opinion of scale auto racing at it's finest, the ones that were more than just "sucked to the track with mags and a ton of glue on the tires!~

I could care less about your opinion. Just say you like the slow stuff and be done with it... No one wants to hear you bash the other large section of the hobby. None of it is realistic at 700 scale miles per hour and up. No one wrecks in a 4 car pile up 50 times in the course of an evening....

Reminisce about racing cars with your Dad, just leave the bashing to another site. Some folks like racing the so called "colored streaks", as there is a skill to it which you don't have.

Post crap like this elsewhere and post what you like here....

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dudes, lighten up on the new guy. jeez... all he did was state his opinion, one that we all might not share, but he's still entitled to it, isn't he?

I'm not as big fan of the magnetic lexan bullets either... but I LOVE magnatractions... you can still slide with them. So like Gearhead, I support any HT member's right to state their likes and dislikes about the hobby.

And what's with this "state it somewhere else" nonsense ... wouldn't THIS be the forum for it? Funny, you're bashing a guy for bashing magnet cars... while complaining about his stating his opinion.

I don't get the hub bub over this...but the hypocrisy is kinda funny though.

come on fellas, there's room on the track for all of us.

Brave post and this IS the place for it.
Stay strong and keep it in the groove, baby

Ha ha yer gone!

Cant say any form of "Richard" on this board even if ya are one. Someone please push the button on this. Although many of us aspire to the gutter.....we do have standards.

Lets start over after the language is adjusted...K?

Remember that opinions are like belly buttons....everyone's got one...but no one wants to hear about yers!
If I've learned anything here it's to "TRY" and present "my Belly Button" in a thoughful, interesting manner with some fashion sense.

Howz a tube top sound?

"there is no sport in it, like fishing in a bucket." Sounds like a bash to me....

As for your question.... typically only when someone comes in and tries to stir it up. Clearly the name calling indicates that the camp you belong in is not here.

I'll hope you land elsewhere.

dudes, lighten up on the new guy. jeez... all he did was state his opinion, one that we all might not share, but he's still entitled to it, isn't he?

I'm not as big fan of the magnetic lexan bullets either... but I LOVE magnatractions... you can still slide with them. So like Gearhead, I support any HT member's right to state their likes and dislikes about the hobby.

And what's with this "state it somewhere else" nonsense ... wouldn't THIS be the forum for it? Funny, you're bashing a guy for bashing magnet cars... while complaining about his stating his opinion.

I don't get the hub bub over this...but the hypocrisy is kinda funny though.

come on fellas, there's room on the track for all of us.

Brave post and this IS the place for it.
Stay strong and keep it in the groove, baby

Yer killin' me VJ.....

I have ZERO problems with likes or dislikes people may have. Just have a point to it. Saying A rocks and B sucks does nothing for anyone. Saying is A is great because I can see the detailing of the cars and I like the way they drive and B is not my thing because I think they are too fast and I can't see them is miles apart from the actual post here.

Not sure why calling someone to the floor is hypocrisy. Just because it's the internet doesn't mean it's all black and white and we all have to just shut up and listen....

I'm not bashing anyone for bashing magnet cars, his attempt at a post was trolling, he certainly got a response. It wasn't a brave post, it was simply a rude, troll with no valid point to be made or any type of argument.

I appreciate you feeling the need to stick up for him and argue your first amendment rights and all that VJ, but give me a break. This site isn't a democracy, it's Hank's world, we're just trying to enjoy living in it.

We can argue about this elsewhere I suppose, as this thread won't last much longer I am sure.....

maybe we should all pause, reflect and pray to the Jack Lord for guidence

hehehehe

these things I pray:

let our tires be true and our motors run strong
deliver us from shoddy overseas work and lead us all to the track, together.
A track where the straights a long and fast and where wives are forgiving of our spending, where the smell of burnt oil and ozone is as plentiful as the flowers and trees
A track where magnet and non magnet car drivers get along in the spirit of slot car fun.
Oh Jack Lord, please hear these things I pray!

To me "not racing" is:

1) Having a 4 lane where more time is devouted to putting your and your opponent's non-magnet car back on the track than racing it.

2) Non-magnet sets of old once sold to those new to the hobby only to be returned because "the cars won't stay on the track."

Magnets have probably promoted the hobby more than we know. To ensure greater odds that you and your 3 opponents better stay on the track make the faster speeds worth it.......if you like a close race. Which by the way is "better racing!"

Jim Norton
Huntsville, AL

A rocks and B sucks


No way, B is WAYYYYYYYYYYY better A is so overrated...

:wave::wave::tongue:

Nice! Kind of like walking into a bar and criticising people for what they drink. :drunk:

Thanks for helping me out though. Man all these years I thought I was racing. :freak:

Hmm... magnet racing is not real racing :confused: .

Well, I took the magnets out of my slot cars, put them on the track and they didn't move... unless I pushed them, like Hot Wheels. And, that was pretty boring ;) , at least for me.

So, I've decided I like racing little toy slot cars with magnets in them :thumbsup: .

Steve

You could have just rolled dice and made a board game out of them.Crap,I just rolled a blown armature!

Please keep in mind slotkarkid is in no way related to me...:tongue:

Well, I like to look at these issues as "Slot Car' racing and "Model Car" racing at the extreme opposite ends of this, regardless of scale. Magnets are not exclusive to H.O. cars either. There are some wicked fast 1/24th slot cars that look nothing like anything real and there are hard body classes that look very much like real cars in miniature....same goes for H.O. They are all still racing from the start to the finish. Rolling marbles down a board would be racing too. One of the great things about this hobby is that you can find an area anyplace between the extremes and have fun. I've raced slot cars (H.O.) with and against guys that race full size. One of them held the world record for a 3/8th oval in a winged supermodified at the time and he said he got more wound up and more of a rush running the faster slots. Wasn't any "Looking Down" on slot cars to it. It kept him sharp over the winter!......Just have fun with what you enjoy.

VJ - Loved your prayer to Jack Lord!

I personally prefer T-jets, but who doesn't like to slap a wizard on the track and rip off some fast laps? It's all good!

Jim

Two dudes put their cars on a track and try to outrun each other over a set distance or time.

That my friends is a RACE. :)

Magnets have nothing to do with it.

And when 8 do it, that is insane!

Magnets, or lack of, have nothing to do with it. Go troll somewhere else SKK.

6 posts and banned already LOL! That was fast! Maybe thats real racing LOL!!!
Good Luck to you slotkarkid!

Please keep in mind slotkarkid is in no way related to me...:tongue:

Are you sure? Maybe its slotcarillegitematekid?

Are you sure? Maybe its slotcarillegitematekid?

He say's he's 50, I'm 48.. It's not really possible.. Unless, of course I use that "new math" to figure it out... :lol::rolleyes::p:tongue::jest::roll:

P.S. I just don't want him getting mixed up with my slotcarkid... if ya know what I mean...:thumbsup:

".......and he's outta here......."

That might be a new record. ScottD eat your heart out.:rolleyes:

Please keep in mind slotkarkid is in no way related to me...:tongue:

I only thought about it for a second.....then i said NO WAY wrong spelling :)

".......and he's outta here......."

That might be a new record. ScottD eat your heart out.:rolleyes:

TFF! LOL!

".......and he's outta here......."

That might be a new record. ScottD eat your heart out.:rolleyes:

Was thinking the same thing Win. :eek: rr

Flingin this thing without MAG's is a blast. Hmmmm. Magnets are cool for motors (electrical type)

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Though I did not fully understand the reason for such hubbub about likes and dislikes of the HO scale racing, my thoughts are this: I love and always have loved the thrill of 1/64 HO scale racing, no mater what's under it. Just me alone trying to better my last lap speed, or as a group, out dueling the "other" guy. Mags are fun in their own right as are the t-jets. G plus can provide some very close racing while some of the other style motors I have not had the chance to run. If you say the guy was trolling for a response, then all posts I have seen on this board are trollers in one form or another. I race in a group that races t-jet,non mag,mag, and 440's. That's what we run. If I did not like the classes I would not run them. I do not go to big national shows not that I would not want to, but I just do not have what they have to run. Bottom line is fun is where you find it and leave it at that. If the guy was looking for others with the same likes to banter with, so be it. Now, maybe you can "pick" on me cause I stated my opinion.

No need to puff up your chest Grampa.... no one was picking on poor slotcarkid, he was trolling and got called on it.

State your opinion on anything you like, just be respectful about what others like as well.... I enjoy everything you mentioned racing as well. If they have 4 wheels and run around in circles, chances are I like it as well.

Grampa, I think some of us were just shocked by his rudeness and he crossed the line with some of his language. I sure didn't get the idea that he was looking for friends.

Imagine you're doing some boating out on the river there in Lacrosse this summer with your kids and grandkids. You stop to have a picnic on a sandbar and a guy suddenly pulls up in his boat and yells out to you that boats are for fishing and anyone who pulls tubes or water skiers is a fool. You comment that it's a big river and there's plenty of room for boaters of all interests. He responds by calling you names that you'd rather not have your grandkids hear. That's pretty much what SKK did here today.

Along with his banning, Hank might also suggest he looking into picking up a copy of Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People". Of course, VJ would probably also recommend some time in Jack Lord's Bible...

The way I see it is,
if you go to a big commercial H.O. slot car track and you don't have any high performance magnet cars.
You'll be just standing around scratching your backside watching everybody else racing.

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The way I see it is,
if you go to a big commercial H.O. slot car track and you don't have any high performance magnet cars.
You'll be just standing around scratching your backside watching everybody else racing.

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Kinda like going to a tank fight with a rifle, eh? I hear ya SF! Right On!

It is a little sad that every few months somebody has to dis all forms of slot car racing other than his own fav. Whether it is a matter of scale preference, chassis type, lexan versus hard body, etc., somebody gets all jumped up that they are in the center of the universe and everyone else is in the big suckage. One of the really cool things about our hobby is that there is truely something for everyone. Got lotsa of room? Go big scale. Short on room? Go small scale. Wanna go slow or fast? No, problemo, there is a car for you and dudes to share your passion with. This makes the hobby stong!

So, I wonder why we have these occasional out bursts of "my way or you're a big loser-zero-way"? At this risk of major cornage I will ask "why can't we slot heads all get along"? Is that really so much to ask?

All I am saying is give slot cars a chance...

Hutt out. :(

Well Russ,

HT membership requires more than fogging a mirror when shoved under yer nose. We like to see an SAT score at or near the level of a house cactus. Special writs (like the one they gave me) are available for those who cant score that high. They are available only on a case by case basis.

Equally important would be a people skill rating somewhere around the level of the common everyday turnip. Sadly this secondary requirement cannot be waved and many wannabe animals and vegetables will only ever be minerals.

Blessedly Hank insists on a level of decorum that exceeds the everyday garden variety blog boards, and online garbage holes. I always figured that if my cactus could do it that one day I too could master such a thing as well.

Until such time as I can score above plantlife, I'll continue to use my remedial writ of membership.

Note to self...hopping on board....doing lawn job on the magnet racers...then calling someone a Richard = not a good debut.

I don't like fishing, so fishing in a bucket can't apply to me. I race everything from tjets to stock tyco 440x2's, ITS ALL SLOTCAR RACING, just different levels and types of skills needed, some guys did better with the faster cars and some did better with slower cars, but we had fun racing all of them.
I have opinions on lots of things, most are better left unsaid.

Wow, I missed this one. Blatant flame baiting in a bucket and the guy got some nibbles.

I'm not at all offended by the first post. So the guy doesn't like magnet car racing and wanted to declare it publicly. One guy. One opinion. So what. Who cares? I don't care. I love magnet car racing, it's one of the most exciting competitive sports that I've ever engaged in, and I've engaged in almost every stick, ball, pin, and puck sport. (Preference for the puck, by the way.)

What someone else, anyone really, thinks about what I like or don't like at this level, a hobby for idle pastime enjoyment, pleasure, and outlet for creativity, is of no consequence to me. I don't need anyone's approval or sanctioning, tacit or declared, to believe in what I believe in. I also don't give a howling hoot about what anyone else likes or dislikes in the hobby. If what you're doing is cool with you, it's cool with me. As long as no real, physical toes are being stepped on, no harm, no foul, and the hot air simply rises into the heavens, and the ill will and misguided confrontation evaporates. Poof.

"stock" (I don' t like fastest magnet cars, for me the tomy turbo is the limit I appreciate) Magnet racing is great. Thursday, with my friends and brother we had great time, running nascar tomy turbos. A great racing evening !

People how don't know magnet racing think that the downforce make the driving easy. they are SO wrong.

The driving is diferent than magnetless cars, but no easiest, althought, it is more easy (on my own experience, with my friends) for beginners to have fun with a standard magnet car ( tomy turbo, 440x2, g+) than a stock tjet.



I love reduced down force cars too. For me, xtraction is a great all around chassis, for example. And I hope to try the gjet, one day.

I like tjets too, very interesting to tune, and drive. I like more powerfull custom magnetless cars too, like my tyco pan jet.


There is room for every one, magnet or non magnet fan. :thumbsup:

Race what you like, and be happy.

If others want to race something else, so be it. Who cares?

I grew up in the A/FX Magnatraction era. Never experienced T-jets until about 15 years ago. I prefer my magnet cars for HO, but I do see the appeal of non-mag racing.

In fact, for my 1/32 SCX digital world, I find non-mag racing to be simply awesome. I think the cars having a bit more bulk and weight makes them more fun to drive without mags then HO cars. But again, that is just my personal preference, and what works for me is not the one size fits all formula for everyone.

Saying one form of racing is superior to others is silly. Its just an opinion. I know some guys who watch nothing but NHRA drag racing and hate Nascar, some who love F1 but look down their nose at Indy, etc. In the end, its about what YOU like. Live and let live, baby...No need to bash anyone's preference.

[QUOTE=SuperFist;2819095]The way I see it is,
if you go to a big commercial H.O. slot car track and you don't have any high performance magnet cars.
You'll be just standing around scratching your backside watching everybody else racing.

What needs to be considered with a commercial track is that there are bills to pay to keep the doors open. Track time rental will not cover the overhead. Selling parts, etc. off the wall will. That means running cars that use and abuse and replace parts often enough to generate income to pay the rent, electric, insurance, etc. and still be compensated for your time and investment. AND the ever changing and upgrading of performance parts requires an ever changing and upgrading of inventory too. Then what do you do with last year's, month's, week's, parts that are obsolete and now unwanted? Box stock classes are great fun but just will not keep a business open.....so.......I guess that's why you see the fast cars at the commercial locations.

Note.....I have several track at home and have run a "basement series" with mine and others for nearly three decades & we're still having fun!....It would scare the daylights out of me to do a commercial deal! My admiration goes out to those brave souls that do.

You are all right and I stand corrected even though I think I may have stepped over a little it was my opinion just as was the first post. I still do not think he was asking for the abuse as much as a reaction. And you all gave him that. That said, this site is still the best on the net for our sport and I will keep reading and making comments but I think I should do a little better in my responses.
Thanks all

Resinmonger hit the nail on the head!! There's plenty of room for all of us, whether is a slow, slippy slidey T Jet or a magnet equipped blur, or anything in between. We all share a common ground... It's a little car, propelled by electricity guided by a slot and a pin. One version is not better or worse than the other.. What is important is that we stick together keeping the commonalities in mind. To keep this hobby alive we need each other (strength in numbers) to keep manufacturers, hobby shops, and suppliers in business. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Slotcarkid's first post was in Swap and Sell. He wanted to buy AFX Sears Super Traction weights. Don't these weights take all of the skill out of slot car racing and make it like a video game? He should be ashamed.

Slotcarkid's first post was in Swap and Sell. He wanted to buy AFX Sears Super Traction weights. Don't these weights take all of the skill out of slot car racing and make it like a video game? He should be ashamed.

Traction weights! Traction magnets! Next people will use sponge for rear tires! What is the world coming too?:tongue::hat:

Traction weights! Traction magnets! Next people will use sponge for rear tires! What is the world coming too?:tongue::hat:

Worse yet silicon coated sponge tires