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VegasJim
04-29-2009, 04:19 PM
Sneek peek of the new 5000mAh 40C 1S 3.7 Single Cell Battery. Currently at ROAR for approval, production units should be available within the next 2-3 weeks. Our early testing is very positive. I will post more info as we get it.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh205/vegasjim_racing/TP5000-1SPR-1A.jpg


TP5000-1SPR $64.99 MAP

swtour
04-29-2009, 05:15 PM
Jim,

Looks nice!~

katf1sh
04-29-2009, 05:41 PM
damn, like joe i wanted just one manufacturer to do single cell lipo..why does there need to be two different packs...i hope they are exactly the same......muahahhahahahaha

nickbell1390
04-29-2009, 06:00 PM
early testing very positive....WOW!!!!!

trailranger
04-29-2009, 07:37 PM
what is the dimensions in milimeters?

TinManSEP
04-29-2009, 08:00 PM
WTG Jim, looking forward to the future and eating my words and trying a single cell soon.

Alan Behler
04-29-2009, 08:18 PM
too bad it had to be more milliamps and a higher C rating:(

TinManSEP
04-29-2009, 08:56 PM
Progress and make a better mouse trap, would a new $60.00 batter every 6 months really make a difference? No one has any problem with a new body coming out (PS, nice job Dale!!) $26.00 body, Couple of rattle cans. and some custom made decals....not much difference in cost and of you race every week you'll spend more money on bodies than batteries.

Here in Florida we went from round cells to two 2 cell, from brushed to brushless, from 10.5 and 13.5 to 17.5 and 21.5. I truly think we'll spend even more due to the populairity of the new 1 cell, we spent alot, and will still spend more because we like new technology and seem to adapt to it faster than others, and most of all we love to race!!!

Not trying to start a fued but I like Jim's stuff and if Thunder Power makes it, I'll buy it.

Tin Man

katf1sh
04-29-2009, 09:12 PM
just busting joes chops..he hates bigge,better,faster....and well thats what we have now...

Alan Behler
04-29-2009, 09:27 PM
dont get me wrong here i love my thunder power 2 cell battery.
i hope we can lock in the 4000mah battery for a certain amount of time for 1 cell 13.5 and the new start up class 17.5. i can see us using the newer battery in 10.5 or more.

i guess thunder power will finally make a program in their charger for 1 cell now they are coming out with 1?
a few months ago i heard they didnt care about where the voltage was on the 1 cell with their charger.

again i still like thunder power stuff

Da One
04-29-2009, 11:35 PM
My question is, why make a battery that is outside the norm when 1 cell was meant to main stream the battery. Why not just go with a comperable 4000 mAh 25C pack. Make competition between manufacturers instead of going with more mAh/more cells. This just adds to the downward spiral of oval.

hankster
04-29-2009, 11:44 PM
Or they could just put a 4000mAh 25c label on it and call it good to go? ;)

Porksalot4L
04-30-2009, 12:06 AM
My question is, why make a battery that is outside the norm when 1 cell was meant to main stream the battery. Why not just go with a comperable 4000 mAh 25C pack. Make competition between manufacturers instead of going with more mAh/more cells. This just adds to the downward spiral of oval.


its the company's job to make new products for us to bye. its our job to buy what the rules allow us to run. if rules we abide by say 4000 mah 25c then our choice is simple. till then let the credit cards fly!

nickbell1390
04-30-2009, 06:49 AM
when the other guy has already stated hes going to build a 40c pack why would you build anything less?

Alan Behler
04-30-2009, 07:13 AM
when the other guy has already stated hes going to build a 40c pack why would you build anything less?

he said after he already knew that this battery was coming!!!

nickbell1390
04-30-2009, 07:14 AM
danny said he could and would make a 40c single cell not long after the first packs were built

98Ron
04-30-2009, 10:23 AM
Tinman, have you seen the light or are you off your meds??? See ya on the 30th

katf1sh
04-30-2009, 12:31 PM
don't worry guys the new oval sanctioning body will step up and put there foot down i'm sure! :)

Dpreston
04-30-2009, 12:42 PM
danny said he could and would make a 40c single cell not long after the first packs were built


Well if the TP single cell is anything like it's big brother (2 cell) it will mop the floor with an smc pack 28 or 40c it doesn't matter!

FLYINGFINN#8
04-30-2009, 04:58 PM
Most of the tracks in the northeast only allow the smc, I hope it doesn't change.

sportpak
04-30-2009, 05:06 PM
I think Roar will set the case size and that will slow the development of the batteries. I talked with Danny at SMC a while back, he has 5000 or 5200 40+C cell almost ready to rock. It will fit in the current 4000 case.

I plan to let things go crazy over the summer, and come fall I'll buy one or two of what everyone will have and be done with it until the following fall. I try not to bunch my panties too much anymore.

Ben

casper60
04-30-2009, 05:16 PM
Most of the tracks in the northeast only allow the smc, I hope it doesn't change.

considering the SMC is the only pack available right now, I don't think there are too many other options... lol

katf1sh
04-30-2009, 06:49 PM
i guess the best part is we only have two choices..so for 120.00 you will have all your bases covered

Da One
04-30-2009, 07:01 PM
its the company's job to make new products for us to bye. its our job to buy what the rules allow us to run. if rules we abide by say 4000 mah 25c then our choice is simple. till then let the credit cards fly!

I can't speak for any other parts of the country, but in western Pa and Eastern Oh this mindset has cost us 20+ weekly dedicated racers that just gave up on RC because of the high cost and constant change. Things need to just calm down a little bit and let people catch their breathes.

casper60
04-30-2009, 11:22 PM
This is where I see a problem with the mentality here. I think the manufacturers should be allowed (obviously) to build, market, and sell whatever they want for a product. It is up to the tracks and the sanctioning bodies to create the rules right? So why is it the manufacturers fault that when the release something new, we all have to go out and buy it? It's the fault of the tracks and the sanctioning bodies for not creating or enforcing the rules they did create.

Make it simple... Batteries are approved once a year prior to the start of the racing season (lets say fall, before the carpet season). Those batteries are then carried for the season, until manufacturers submit new packs for approval prior to the following season. This applies to all of the bigger "national" events as well

Very simple in theory, getting everyone on the same page is why things are the way they are. I think this is why we need someone to step up, like Pemberton is, and put this all together and make it reasonable. The problem is going to be getting everyone to go along with it. Until this happens, oval racing is what it is...

Swampy
05-04-2009, 08:43 PM
Da One i beleive said it all. As a racer of 5 yrs now, i beleive that the whole battery to lipo jump has the beginner or electronically challenged as i am not enjoying it as much. If it was not for all the help i continue to get , i would quit.......Just my opinion, Bobby

VegasJim
05-04-2009, 09:44 PM
We recieved our ROAR appoval as of May 1st alog with our sadle packs and 4 cell batteries for 1/8th scale.

James35
05-06-2009, 01:41 PM
This pack looks to be flat on the bottom (no cell humps) correct?

Seven
05-06-2009, 01:52 PM
This pack looks to be flat on the bottom (no cell humps) correct?

James, it was said on another thread that this pack was flat on both sides.

James35
05-06-2009, 01:53 PM
Excellent. I prefer them flat so we can position them anywhere we want.

jbm38
05-15-2009, 10:08 PM
Well if the TP single cell is anything like it's big brother (2 cell) it will mop the floor with an smc pack 28 or 40c it doesn't matter!


Not to start the Great debate but not true. Only because it will take more than battery to win an oval race as I have seen a SMC 3200 28C pack beat the 3200 40C packs on carpet already.

Alan Behler
05-17-2009, 09:42 PM
Not to start the Great debate but not true. Only because it will take more than battery to win an oval race as I have seen a SMC 3200 28C pack beat the 3200 40C packs on carpet already.

i would agree with that..... but at marshalls back to back runs i was 1.5 seconds faster with my TP pack

ta_man
05-18-2009, 12:10 AM
i would agree with that..... but at marshalls back to back runs i was 1.5 seconds faster with my TP pack
That is six tenths of one percent. Is it repeatable - did you go 1.5 seconds slower the next heat with the SMC? Or have the exact same time the next heat with the TP?

Alan Behler
05-18-2009, 06:26 AM
That is six tenths of one percent. Is it repeatable - did you go 1.5 seconds slower the next heat with the SMC? Or have the exact same time the next heat with the TP?

it is very repeatable. are you saying if you could go 1.5 seconds faster by changing a battery you wouldnt do that?

i let someone else use it as well and they went faster also

ta_man
05-18-2009, 08:11 AM
it is very repeatable. are you saying if you could go 1.5 seconds faster by changing a battery you wouldnt do that?

i let someone else use it as well and they went faster also
I would use it. But I probably wouldn't notice the difference since my variations from race to race are greater than 1%.

bush87
05-26-2009, 08:08 PM
Been Testing the 1 cell TP pack with oustanding results over the smc pack. I have run the pack and been 5 secounds faster with back to back runs. I have hade some of the locals run it in different Qualifiers and they have picked up 4 or 5 secounds just by switching batteries. It has about 30 to 35 runs on it and the cycle #s are still the same as when it was new.The voltage curve is about .15 + than the best smc I have seen cycled on my GFX. IR 2.6 RT 519 Voltage 3.72

This is the Little brother to the 2c TP Lipo packs all track records in 1c will fall.:thumbsup:

Andy Koback
05-26-2009, 09:43 PM
What amperage are you using for discharge?

bush87
05-27-2009, 07:04 PM
Discharge was @ 35 amps

swtour
05-28-2009, 01:39 AM
Been Testing the 1 cell TP pack with oustanding results over the smc pack. I have run the pack and been 5 secounds faster with back to back runs. I have hade some of the locals run it in different Qualifiers and they have picked up 4 or 5 secounds just by switching batteries. It has about 30 to 35 runs on it and the cycle #s are still the same as when it was new.The voltage curve is about .15 + than the best smc I have seen cycled on my GFX. IR 2.6 RT 519 Voltage 3.72

This is the Little brother to the 2c TP Lipo packs all track records in 1c will fall.


Bush,

You mentioned you ran this pack, and it ran 5 seconds quicker than the "OTHER" brand.

I didn't see where you mentioned what Motor you ran it with. (Since it appears the big push is 13.5/3.7v is this what you tested it with?

If so - can I also assume these were 4 minute runs?

If both of these are correct, what kind of mAh re-charge did it take

Have you run this with something like a NOVAK Sentry, so you can see PEAK Amp Draw and Max Voltage drop? (In the CAR - not on a test bench)

I'm very interested to see how this class pulls...

nickbell1390
05-28-2009, 07:15 AM
10.5 single cell
2500+- mah per run
yes 4 min

bush87
05-28-2009, 06:31 PM
swtour,

I have ran 1 cell with a 4.5 ,5.5, 7.5, 10.5 and 13.5 at our track and the battery holds very true to what I have posted. No I have not run a NOVAK sentry I use the old way with run time and 4 min. runs. As nick posted with the MAh 2350 to 2500 per run.Most of the runs are with a 10.5 and 13.5 from the locals test. Track run line is 355 to 363 run line.

katf1sh
05-29-2009, 10:35 PM
bush what motor mimmicks the speed of 17.5 2 cell what is closer 10.5 or 7.5 ?

Tornado_Racing
05-30-2009, 05:23 AM
bush what motor mimmicks the speed of 17.5 2 cell what is closer 10.5 or 7.5 ?

7.5/1s would get in the 17.5/2s range.

Fl Flash
05-31-2009, 06:00 AM
I had the opportunity to run the TP 40c 1 cell pack tonight in 1 cell 13.5 truck (
Thanks again ) very impressive, significantly more punch and instantly took .10 off my fastest lap. Also watched a very close and fast race with 10.5 1 cell cars looks like a great class :thumbsup: I believe were going to need a pack with this capacity to run 10.5/8.5 single cell.........whens it being released again???

FLYINGFINN#8
05-31-2009, 09:03 AM
It should be quicker it has more mAh and a higher c rating. Its a no brainer that it is faster. Just like 13.5 is faster than 17.5 lmao

katf1sh
05-31-2009, 12:55 PM
my duo 17.5 just doesn't run like my duo 10.5???? if you run 17.5 you need a 10.5 asap!

Fl Flash
05-31-2009, 01:30 PM
It should be quicker it has more mAh and a higher c rating. Its a no brainer that it is faster. Just like 13.5 is faster than 17.5 lmao

Just filling everyone in on my personal experience with a battery pack you and most others haven't ran.

JONW1020
05-31-2009, 02:49 PM
Lee, enjoyed having you come up to race yesterday, you picked a good day with 6 races and 2 classes you had plenty of time on the track.:) Any time you want to come back up let us know and will make sure you have a good group to run with. Just remember to stay up on the straights.

Jon Wilson

Andy Koback
05-31-2009, 04:49 PM
It should be quicker it has more mAh and a higher c rating. Its a no brainer that it is faster. Just like 13.5 is faster than 17.5 lmao

mAh is just like Viagra...don't perform any better. All you get is Longevity!!! ;)

Fl Flash
05-31-2009, 06:45 PM
Thanks for all your help Jon had a great time ( a little wore out ) I,m coming back up for your 4th July Sat night race, I think Ron and John might be coming also. Thanks again yall have a great group of racers.