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Dave P 04-23-2009, 10:49 AM Thought it was about time I shared something (and put in a shameless plug for Amazing Figure Modeler!).
I addition to the ParaGrafix photo etch and Fuzznoggin (Space Circuits) core lights I wanted to stuff as many instrument and blinking console lights in there as I could. Not counting the engine there ended up being 23 LEDs and at least 30 ft. of optics. I'm not very experienced with electronics, so I'm kind of surprised that this worked at all. But, I really like to push myself with each new project. It took about 4 1/2 months to complete.
The only disappointment came when the hull was buttoned up the ceiling light and exterior spots decided not to work.
The Smith figure is a combination of Tamiya & Fujimi 1/24 pit crew figures. It really doesn't look like him, but I think the pose makes the point.
The full build story is in the current issue of AFM, which is an all plastic issue with a lot of very well done builds. www.amazingfiguremodeler.com
Thanks!
Dave P 04-23-2009, 10:51 AM A few more shots.....
Trekkriffic 04-23-2009, 10:58 AM Beautiful build ! Love what you did with all the lights. The diorama turned out really well I think. Congratulations on getting this beauty published in AFM too. .
xsavoie 04-23-2009, 11:10 AM The Robot comes from the Chariot?Did you scrathbuild the Dr. Smith figure yourself.:thumbsup:
Antimatter 04-23-2009, 11:13 AM Simply amazing work. :thumbsup:
Dave P 04-23-2009, 11:17 AM Thanks! Yes, the Robot came from the Chariot. Too bad the upcoming separate Robot kit didn't hit sooner! Smith is a combination of pit crew figure parts modified with Aves apoxy putty and covered with Bare Metal Foil.
John P 04-23-2009, 11:25 AM GASP!!
:eek:
Steve244 04-23-2009, 11:29 AM dave.... dave.... I'm afraid dave... that you've done something quite wonderful...
robiwon 04-23-2009, 11:40 AM Very nice clean build. So many times lit models are strewn with wires and "over lit". Yours looks very scale in appearance.
jbond 04-23-2009, 12:43 PM Fantastic job...
steve123 04-23-2009, 12:54 PM Wonderful! Great work....
Steve
hedorah59 04-23-2009, 12:56 PM GASP!!
:eek:
Agreed!
I read that article and I find it incredible that you were able to glue that sucker together with all that wire and fiber in there! I think your Dr. Smith, while maybe not being a great likeness, works perfectly well. I don't think there is any mistaking who he is supposed to represent. Stellar work for sure!
My problem is I have a hard enough time finishing a kit even if its straight from the box - Seeing yours makes me want to use photo-etch and light the heck out of it as well! If I go down that road I will never have a built Space Pod! :freak:
PM Moderator 04-23-2009, 12:59 PM Hi Dave,
Thanks for posting the pics, It's fun to see what can be done with our kits.
Dave
Just Plain Al 04-23-2009, 01:05 PM Man that is just breathtaking. I'm at a loss for words.
Prowler901 04-23-2009, 01:10 PM WOW!! That's some incredibly beautiful work :thumbsup:
Carson Dyle 04-23-2009, 01:10 PM Probably the nicest Pod build I've seen.
Beautiful work.
I guess there was no way to fit a 9V into the model itself...
Steve244 04-23-2009, 01:17 PM Probably the nicest Pod build I've seen.
Beautiful work.
I guess there was no way to fit a 9V into the model itself...
that only works on pods with the tardis option.
Lou Dalmaso 04-23-2009, 01:19 PM WOW..just..WOW
even lites on the back wall...
how did you manage to join the Fiber optics to the brass etch without globbing?
Carson Dyle 04-23-2009, 01:19 PM that only works on pods with the tardis option.
Yeah, I haven't started on my Pod yet, but that was my impression.
Ah, well, stunning work nonetheless.
I'm going to have to try and track down that article...
gojira61 04-23-2009, 01:35 PM Outstanding! Simply outstatnding! :thumbsup:
beatlepaul 04-23-2009, 01:46 PM FANTASTIC WORK SIR!!!!!!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup ::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Dave P 04-23-2009, 02:04 PM Thanks all! Very much appreciated.
The etch parts come with holes for instrument lights. Once the kit's surface detail was removed and everything painted, the etch was glued on, holes drilled and optics fed through. The fibers were epoxied in place from behind. Solvents or super glues can ruin the fibers.
The rear wall was modified and a channel created to run the optics down and under the floor to reach the LEDs under the control console.
Even if you were able to get a battery in there you wouldn't be able to get at it without creating a nasty looking access door.
Sonett 04-23-2009, 02:14 PM What an amazing build! Now I need to go off, get another kit and TRY to do what you have done. Thank you so much for sharing this with us and for the inspiration!
GordonMitchell 04-23-2009, 02:36 PM Absolutely brilliant,cant wait till my AFM arrives to read this,sometimes you get so bogged down tryng to do commissions or other things that your own models suffer then along comes a piece like this and it gives you thekick up the pants that you need tpo get back into the modeling proper,thanks again for sharing this and the pics posted have really whetted my apetite,cheers,
Gordon......Scotland:thumbsup:
teslabe 04-23-2009, 04:03 PM Fantastic, just does not express how
fine a build you've done.......:thumbsup: Impressive, also seems so inadequate..... Where did my jaw go??? It hit the floor
and now I can't find it......
Great work. :eek::eek::eek::eek:
Paulbo 04-23-2009, 06:35 PM That looks FANTASTIC! I just ordered up a subscription, so your plug worked!
You didn't mention in your emails that you'd sculpted Dr. Smith. He looks great.
Speaking of shameless plugs: the photoetch is again available at my web site (http://www.paragrafix.biz).
Gemini1999 04-23-2009, 07:13 PM That model is just jaw droppingly beautiful! All those little winky-blinky lights and everything.... The only thing that model doesn't do is fly! One thing I find amazing is the amount of fiber optics that fit in that tiny little model, it just doesn't seem possible, but there it is.
Well done!
Bryan
AJ-1701 04-24-2009, 06:11 AM STRUTH!!! That is o u t s t a n d i n g... :thumbsup::thumbsup:
Dave P 04-24-2009, 12:09 PM THANKS EVERYONE.
This pic is the pod right before attaching the outer hull. The solution to fitting the fiber optics through the space where the outer hulls touch the inner bulkheads was to cut holes in the hull under the exterior tanks to create a space for the strands to pass through. The hydrogen tank on the right actually had to be moved down about 1/4 in. Surprisingly there was plenty of room under the "dash" to fit everything else.
fxshop 04-24-2009, 01:53 PM THANKS EVERYONE.
This pic is the pod right before attaching the outer hull. The solution to fitting the fiber optics through the space where the outer hulls touch the inner bulkheads was to cut holes in the hull under the exterior tanks to create a space for the strands to pass through. The hydrogen tank on the right actually had to be moved down about 1/4 in. Surprisingly there was plenty of room under the "dash" to fit everything else. Hello Dave P, Outstanding job on the lighting work and build up job, well done!!!!
Thanks for posting the project!
Randy Neubert
VoodooFX
650-568-3400
Prince of Styrene II 04-24-2009, 02:15 PM Probably the nicest Pod build I've seen.
"Probably" NOTHING!! That bugger is absolutely the nicest Pod I've ever seen! :eek: Lights, figures, diorama... it all comes together in an amazing scene right from the show! I bow to your superior build!!
Just... beautiful.
(Okay, now where's the bowing icon??)
Seaview 04-24-2009, 03:09 PM Absolutely magnificent, Dave! I envy you your talents!
I guess there was no way to fit a 9V into the model itself...
An excellent point! I'm hoping that the next step in technical evolution will be 9V batteries the size of either watch or hearing aid batteries. :dude:
Carson Dyle 04-24-2009, 06:03 PM As a general rule, if I can't figure out a way to seamlessly contain the power source within the model then I don't bother to light it.
Then a model like this comes along, which makes my no-exterior-power-source dogma look kind of small-minded and silly.
Thing is is, we've seen a lot of models with killer lighting effects on these forums, and all too often the coolness of the effect is compromised by a bad paint job or otherwise sloppy craftsmanship. What I love about this build is that it would be impressive even without the fancy lighting FX.
Dave P 04-24-2009, 06:18 PM Hi praise indeed. I've admired your work for a long time. Thank you.
teslabe 04-24-2009, 06:45 PM As a general rule, if I can't figure out a way to seamlessly contain the power source within the model then I don't bother to light it.
I try not to put batteries in my builds that have a room issue, instead I will use "Super Capacitors", which are much smaller, can be chargered over and over and will power most LED setups for a few minute after they are removed
from the power source. Here is a photo of the copper pads I put on the front two landing pads of my PL J2. When the ship is on the display stand it powers the unit but if it gets picked up, it will run the Fusion core and Flight console lights for about three minutes. I will do the same on my Space Pod. Just a thought.
P.S. Again, Dave your build makes me speechless.....
Paulbo 04-24-2009, 07:02 PM That sounds like something they'd come up with on ST: Voyager to get out of a dangerous situation. ;)
I'd be interested to learn more about this capacitor system, Teslabe - please share details!
Dave - the shot before adding on the outer shell looks complex enough to be a real spacecraft. That is so well done.
Carson Dyle 04-24-2009, 07:13 PM Very cool power source alternative teslabe. I too would like to learn more about this technique, but out of respect for Dave P we should probably take that particular discussion to a another thread. :)
Dave - the shot before adding on the outer shell looks complex enough to be a real spacecraft.
Lol, I thought the same thing.
Makes my head spin, some of the things you electronics whizzes can pull off. I'm lucky if I can change the batteries in my kid's Thomas the Tank Engine.
GKvfx 04-24-2009, 07:33 PM .........I'm lucky if I can change the batteries in my kid's Thomas the Tank Engine........
Yeah, we all know what Carson can do with a battery:
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa304/CarsonDyle/bat.jpg
Gene
teslabe 04-24-2009, 07:33 PM Very cool power source alternative teslabe. I too would like to learn more about this technique, but out of respect for Dave P we should probably take that particular discussion to a another thread.
You are so right and I am very sorry for going off topic.... I'm very sorry Dave P for my blunder....:wave:
Carson Dyle 04-24-2009, 07:51 PM Yeah, we all know what Carson can do with a battery
I know what I'd like to see you do with a battery, Gene. ;)
Question for Dave: How many batteries did you use -- or are you running off of AC?
RogueJ 04-24-2009, 08:07 PM Sheesh! That's fantastic! What a beautiful build up and then some.
wow,
Rogue
Thor1956 04-24-2009, 09:33 PM Holly Crud Batman!!!!!
That Pod Is Absolutely Gorgeous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well Done Dave!!!!
Thor1956 04-24-2009, 09:35 PM You are so right and I am very sorry for going off topic.... I'm very sorry Dave P for my blunder....:wave:
Teslabe ... Please elaborate in the "Model Lighting" Forum ...
Dave P 04-24-2009, 09:38 PM You are so right and I am very sorry for going off topic.... I'm very sorry Dave P for my blunder....:wave:
It's all good. No offense here. Nice bit of info.
Dave P 04-24-2009, 09:46 PM I know what I'd like to see you do with a battery, Gene. ;)
Question for Dave: How many batteries did you use -- or are you running off of AC?
Being pretty new to electronics I didn't want to wire the core and all the separate blinker boards as one, so it's running off 5 batteries and switches. 6 if you count the robot, although I need to replace his board. Everything's housed in the black box shown under the base.
Antimatter 04-25-2009, 10:27 AM Being pretty new to electronics I didn't want to wire the core and all the separate blinker boards as one, so it's running off 5 batteries and switches. 6 if you count the robot, although I need to replace his board. Everything's housed in the black box shown under the base.
Rocking! When you get done please do a Youtube video.
Paulbo 04-25-2009, 07:49 PM I've just started up a new thread in the Lighting forum to deal with Teslabe's "super capacitor" power source. I'm going to be keeping my eyes on this one!
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=252929
abacero 04-27-2009, 12:16 AM Dave:
It is an outstanding job!! Is a dream come true. It is a motivation and a challege to us modelers who want to make a good job with a good model. People like you that walks the extra mile shows that having a great model is still possilbe, of course, with a little help of a genius like you. ;)
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Best regards,
Alberto
"There are always possibilities".- Spock
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