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Micro_Racer 04-22-2009, 08:19 AM I am happy to report that the brushless class is an official trophy series this summer!!! :thumbsup:
We had a few cars throughout the 2008-2009 Indoor series, and should have a full class this 2009 Summer series.
I have donated a race computer to Freddies Hobbies. This computer has both the Castle and Tekin software loaded, and the USB cable attached. I will have with me both the Castle and Tekin computer interfaces for every race I attend. (I would recommend getting your own interface, or talking Freddie into have one available). I have also created folders to save your Castle profile to, and you should be able to print out your set-up as well. Finding the right ESC settings for your driving style is very important!!!!! This will now give you the ability to change, save, print, and compare Castle settings...
Feel free to add any tips or suggestions to this thread! I have been in contact with the Tekin brushless guys, and will try a new set-up at the first race...:tongue:
BudBartos 04-23-2009, 08:49 AM Thanks Micro :thumbsup:
Micro_Racer 04-25-2009, 12:32 PM Bud - do you run drag breaks in your Tekin?
martian 710 04-25-2009, 03:10 PM Bud - do you run drag breaks in your Tekin?
Just don't oil your bushings. It works the same and you don't need a computer!!!:tongue::wave:
BudBartos 04-25-2009, 09:43 PM Bud - do you run drag breaks in your Tekin?
None at all !!!! You don't need brakes when it's flat punched all around. Except in the 10 car main I did alot of rolling and watching and listening in that one. Yes drive with Your ears !!!!!!
Micro_Racer 04-26-2009, 10:09 AM That's what I thought - thanks
Hangtime 04-27-2009, 01:18 PM Wayne uses 10%
TangTester 04-27-2009, 03:20 PM Wayne and I were both flat punched.......brakes don't do any good then. It was so weird, I had to keep telling myself not to lift going into the corner.
Tang
martian 710 04-27-2009, 04:30 PM It was so weird, I had to keep telling myself not to lift going into the corner.
Tang
I wondered who you were talking to???:drunk::wave:
I hope I get a chance to get a new LTO brushless car together for next race. My car was a handfull Friday.:(
BudBartos 04-28-2009, 12:28 PM You have to know when to lift and when not too !!!!! That is what 30 years of RC racing will do for You. And nothing else trust Me :p
Hangtime 04-28-2009, 01:27 PM Brett - You have a PM
Mike Clark 05-03-2009, 05:57 PM My Castle motor will not fit the side pod, What the heck? Is there a secret hand shake or something?
martian 710 05-03-2009, 06:08 PM My Castle motor will not fit the side pod, What the heck? Is there a secret hand shake or something?
Are you using the Big Block motor plates for the associated motor?
If so twist the motor around until the widest mounting holes line up with the plate slots?:thumbsup: You'll probably have to trim the shaft down so it doesn't hit the tire. Also I recomend using a press and puller when installing and removing pinions or you will end up with excessive endplay in the shaft.
Mike Clark 05-03-2009, 08:43 PM Are you using the Big Block motor plates for the associated motor?
If so twist the motor around until the widest mounting holes line up with the plate slots?:thumbsup: You'll probably have to trim the shaft down so it doesn't hit the tire. Also I recomend using a press and puller when installing and removing pinions or you will end up with excessive endplay in the shaft.
The big block motor plates? The car I purchased has one side of the pod a
16D side plate and on the other I guess the Associated plate. I have a set of Bud's pinions so won't be pulling and pressing hopefully. Got a part number for the Big Block motor plates? I am dying to get this thing outside on our asphalt oval to see what see will do.
Mike
BudBartos 05-03-2009, 08:55 PM The castle motor should go right in. It does go on the right side of car. opposit the slot car motor.
Hangtime 05-03-2009, 10:33 PM I had to file the bolt slots toward the center. At first it wouldn't bolt up. It didn't take a lot.
Mike Clark 05-04-2009, 09:53 AM The castle motor should go right in. It does go on the right side of car. opposit the slot car motor.
Is there a Big Block plate for the left side of the pod?
BudBartos 05-04-2009, 11:22 AM No just 16D plates.
Micro_Racer 05-09-2009, 11:20 AM For you guys running the Castle ESC - they just released a new version of software. I had the Beta version running in practice last night. I did notice a difference in how smooth the power was....
For you Tekin guys - I found profile 2 and only advancing the timing to 20% fit my driving style. I pulled off 61 laps - my personal best...
Hangtime 05-09-2009, 01:38 PM Thanks for the tip Micro & nice to see you having some good runs last night. (no pun intended) As for me I really enjoyed racing with everyone, but am disappointed in my own results being many laps off the pace. I need to step it up an really work on my game. Thanks to Wayne for the help.
BudBartos 05-09-2009, 02:17 PM Wayne ?? Wrong garage :)It's brushless all the motors are the same ;)
Wayne ?? Wrong garage :)It's brushless all the motors are the same ;)
LOL... I'm glad I changed my motor :)
Micro_Racer 05-10-2009, 08:41 AM darn 4100kv motor sg1 got at the nats!
darn 4100kv motor sg1 got at the nats!
It wasn't as fast as yours!!
Micro_Racer 05-10-2009, 09:30 AM yep - I use a 4200Kv! I had a 100 more horses under my hood!
TangTester 05-10-2009, 10:17 AM SG1 did you ever get those motors from castle?
SG1 did you ever get those motors from castle?
They are STILL on back order...... I'll call again Monday to see the status.
Micro_Racer 05-10-2009, 11:53 AM It looks like the price went up on Castle :( they are now $59.95 retail.... Good thing I jumped on this order!!!!
all4fun 05-10-2009, 01:40 PM For you guys running the Castle ESC - they just released a new version of software. I had the Beta version running in practice last night. I did notice a difference in how smooth the power was....
For you Tekin guys - I found profile 2 and only advancing the timing to 20% fit my driving style. I pulled off 61 laps - my personal best...
Micro......did the new Beta version of software make a difference in speed, along with how smooth the power felt? :)
Thanks, Dave
Micro_Racer 05-10-2009, 07:28 PM Not sure on speed. I did not run the Castle car in the heats or main, but it looked a little faster. But no lap times to compare. If you make it out to the next race, we can load the new version on your ESC - and see if it makes a difference in speed.
all4fun 05-10-2009, 09:26 PM Not sure on speed. I did not run the Castle car in the heats or main, but it looked a little faster. But no lap times to compare. If you make it out to the next race, we can load the new version on your ESC - and see if it makes a difference in speed.
OK....great. Thanks Micro. :thumbsup:
BudBartos 05-11-2009, 09:23 AM I tried VooDoo and Niftech the Niftech was faster :thumbsup: On the ball bearings :)
OrangeRacer 05-11-2009, 07:33 PM Hi guys, I think it's time to make a brushless #14, any recomendations on an ESC? If I can't get to the track at least I can do some wrenching :thumbsup:
martian 710 05-11-2009, 07:36 PM The Tekin is a lot easier to program. "Indeed" sorry Ross!!!:p
BudBartos 05-11-2009, 07:49 PM Hi guys, I think it's time to make a brushless #14, any recomendations on an ESC? If I can't get to the track at least I can do some wrenching :thumbsup:
TEKIN !!!!!!
Micro_Racer 05-11-2009, 09:04 PM Tekin seems to be the popular choice, but the Mamba Micro Pro is also very nice. If you don't have a computer to program (I bring mine to every race) the Tekin is easier...
Which Tekin system are you using?
If I ever get a chance to race, I may convert from the Mambe to Tekin.
Don
Micro_Racer 05-12-2009, 06:42 AM Tekin Mini Rage....only 1/18th ESC are legal!
OrangeRacer 05-12-2009, 09:19 AM Sounds like the Tekin Mini Rage is the winner. Thanks guys :thumbsup:
Micro_Racer 05-13-2009, 02:50 PM UPDATE - the castle motor is now $59.00 - they have discontinued the $20 special. At this time it may be cheaper to get the castle system, rather than getting the Mini Rage, and the motor separately.....
fozzy767 05-13-2009, 04:43 PM we are gonna try the reedy 5500 80 bucks lock stock and barrel,let you guys know how they work
Micro_Racer 05-13-2009, 05:17 PM I am also looking at cheaper motor alternatives. Hope to have some suggestions soon.
Hangtime 05-13-2009, 09:26 PM Here is a cheaper alternative. Bud gonna love this one. lol
http://cgi.ebay.com/4200KV-14L-Brushless-Inrunner-Motor-w-Free-Gift_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a 2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q 3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZite m439827d09bQQitemZ290315554971QQptZRadioQ5fControl Q5fPartsQ5fAccessoriesQQsalenotsupported
martian 710 05-13-2009, 09:54 PM Here is a cheaper alternative. Bud gonna love this one. lol
http://cgi.ebay.com/4200KV-14L-Brushless-Inrunner-Motor-w-Free-Gift_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a 2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q 3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZite m439827d09bQQitemZ290315554971QQptZRadioQ5fControl Q5fPartsQ5fAccessoriesQQsalenotsupported
Yah!!! 4 bucks for the motor and 18 bucks for the shipping.:drunk: Maybe Bud will take a trip to Hong Kong in the BRP yacht and save us some shipping.:thumbsup::tongue:
martian 710 05-13-2009, 09:55 PM I am also looking at cheaper motor alternatives. Hope to have some suggestions soon.
Just stick to what we're running!!!
Micro_Racer 05-13-2009, 11:13 PM Here is a cheaper alternative. Bud gonna love this one. lol
http://cgi.ebay.com/4200KV-14L-Brushless-Inrunner-Motor-w-Free-Gift_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a 2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q 3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZite m439827d09bQQitemZ290315554971QQptZRadioQ5fControl Q5fPartsQ5fAccessoriesQQsalenotsupported (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5335809854&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2F4200KV-14L-Brushless-Inrunner-Motor-w-Free-Gift_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a 2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q 3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZite m439827d09bQQitemZ290315554971QQptZRadioQ5fControl Q5fPartsQ5fAccessoriesQQsalenotsupported)
The problem is most of the brushless motors from "over seas" have a 2.3mm shaft. Our pinions fit a 2.0mm shaft. Plus that motor wont fit in the rear pod....
Micro_Racer 05-13-2009, 11:16 PM Just stick to what we're running!!!
I would live to stick with what we are running, but if someone wants to run brushless, they will have to spend a lot more. And what do we do when the motor we have gives out - they wont last forever.... Nothing is changing, just looking to see what is available at a reasonable price....
all4fun 05-14-2009, 07:32 AM I would live to stick with what we are running, but if someone wants to run brushless, they will have to spend a lot more. And what do we do when the motor we have gives out - they wont last forever.... Nothing is changing, just looking to see what is available at a reasonable price....
Hi guy's........I've been running the Castle 4200 for almost 2 years now in most all of my 1/18th cars in Toledo......and with most all of them powered by a 2c 7.4 lipo and they are still going strong. One of them is now in my BRP LTO car I race at Freddies. One thing that is a positive, is that with a brushless motor there is absolutely no maintenance what so ever. No brushes or springs to replace or change or com to keep clean or shiny!!!! Just put a drop of oil on the shaft once in a while and go play. :) It makes an excellent "spec" class motor. Between rounds, now all you need to worry about is car setup, or if there are any more munchies left over to snack on.....if there are any left...LOL !!! :) :thumbsup:
Dave Berry
martian 710 05-14-2009, 07:43 AM I would live to stick with what we are running, but if someone wants to run brushless, they will have to spend a lot more. And what do we do when the motor we have gives out - they wont last forever.... Nothing is changing, just looking to see what is available at a reasonable price....
It will still be a lot cheaper than brushed motors they will outlast several of them. No motor spray or com drops. :thumbsup:
OrangeRacer 05-14-2009, 08:25 AM Looked at local Hobbytown yesterday. It'll cost about $120 for the Mamba Micro Pro system or about $150 to buy the castle motor and Tekin Mini-Rage seperately. Is the Tekin worth the $30 extra?
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