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Ductapeforever 04-21-2009, 02:19 AM Well, its been one hell-of-a ride folks. But as Picard said "All good things must come to an end." Tonight I was witness to one of the most childlike displays I have seen in all my years in model building. I feel that my interests,and talents will be better served elsewhere. So I bid a fond farewell to some of you, as for the rest "Frankly, My Dear..."
John P 04-21-2009, 07:37 AM NOW what did I miss?
Auroranut 04-21-2009, 07:40 AM PM mate.
Chris.
teslabe 04-21-2009, 09:26 AM Well, its been one hell-of-a ride folks. But as Picard said "All good things must come to an end." Tonight I was witness to one of the most childlike displays I have seen in all my years in model building. I feel that my interests,and talents will be better served elsewhere. So I bid a fond farewell to some of you, as for the rest "Frankly, My Dear..."
This is just nuts......:freak:
Rebel Rocker 04-21-2009, 10:35 AM Wha' happin'??
Wayne
Trekkriffic 04-21-2009, 10:40 AM Man there's been a lot of drama lately. WTF ???
toysoldierman20 04-21-2009, 10:53 AM Could someone please fill me in on whats going on here? I joined this site in hopes of making friends and learning about building models,dioramas,etc from others.
All I've seen here so far is people getting pissed off and a lot of long time members leaving!
Whats causeing this?
Could someone please fill me in on whats going on here? I joined this site in hopes of making friends and learning about building models,dioramas,etc from others.
All I've seen here so far is people getting pissed off and a lot of long time members leaving!
Whats causeing this?
There are not a lot of long time members leaving as far as I can see. Only duct has made that declaration. We all hope he reconsiders. Hes a great modeler and I have enjoyed looking at his work.:thumbsup:
As to what happened. Its to much to get into and really to silly. I will say this, most people here are great and willing to help new members out, unfortunately a few misinterpret things and sadly made things a little uncomfortable around here the last couple days. We shoud all help new members get aquainted with posting in these forums instead of chastizing them. Assuming things about people is never a good thing. It only results in hurt feelings.
Zorro 04-21-2009, 11:02 AM Happens here every few years or so. Usually as fallout from some new, big personality who arrives in a flourish and sort of dominates the board. It's an interesting internet phenomenon. Several other BBs have resulted from member exodus in the past.
Seaview 04-21-2009, 11:31 AM :eek::jest::thumbsup:
BrianM 04-21-2009, 11:40 AM ...well, I don't understand why people who feel the need to "leave" have to hold a press conference! Just go and save us all the drama.
Zorro 04-21-2009, 11:48 AM ...well, I don't understand why people who feel the need to "leave" have to hold a press conference! Just go and save us all the drama.
Ditto.
teslabe 04-21-2009, 11:52 AM ...well, I don't understand why people who feel the need to "leave" have to hold a press conference! Just go and save us all the drama.
Sometimes the drama helps us back down earth....:rolleyes:
Zorro 04-21-2009, 11:54 AM Yea, I know what you mean.
I hate those kind of people too.
Just an observation based on long-time membership. No "judgments" made or implied.
Seaview 04-21-2009, 11:54 AM How about this for a solution?
A sub-forum for this site that we can call "The Lounge" for discussing anything we want to. Who wants to be a moderator for it and arrainge things with Hankster to make it so?
Gemini1999 04-21-2009, 12:00 PM ...well, I don't understand why people who feel the need to "leave" have to hold a press conference! Just go and save us all the drama.
There are those out there that just hate the idea of them leaving a board and nobody noticing, so they do the "goodbye cruel BBoard" type of post. It's just an attention getter and they'll stop by afterwards to see what happens in their wake.
I moderate on two other boards and it happens with amazing regularity.
Bryan
Trekkriffic 04-21-2009, 12:24 PM I nominate Stuntman for moderator of the Sci-Fi Lounge (or whatever you want to call it). I think his collection speaks volumes for his dedication to our hobby and to sci-fi in general.
Seaview 04-21-2009, 12:28 PM SECOND! But it needs to go to Hankster first.
Antimatter 04-21-2009, 12:28 PM Happens here every few years or so. Usually as fallout from some new, big personality who arrives in a flourish and sort of dominates the board. It's an interesting internet phenomenon. Several other BBs have resulted from member exodus in the past.
These things gotta happen every five years or so, ten years. Helps to get rid of the bad blood. Been ten years since the last one.
robiwon 04-21-2009, 01:07 PM I like the idea of an off topic lounge. Several of the boards I belong to have this type of area.
off topic is good but i would add that cutting a thread off before it gets too nasty is usually a good idea. Heading it off at the pass you might say. Alot of people start with good intentions but go "off" at the slightest things sometimes.
starseeker 04-21-2009, 03:55 PM ...well, I don't understand why people who feel the need to "leave" have to hold a press conference! Just go and save us all the drama.
It's one thing to leave because whatever no longer meets your needs or you've outgrown it. Then by all means, just stop posting. But if you're leaving, say, this forum, because it seems to be turning into something uncomfortable, if not downright toxic - then it's probably a good thing to say that this is why you're leaving. If nothing else it lets the moderators know that something is amiss.
Ducttape's modeling was a lot of fun to follow and I'll very much miss him. I got some good ideas and much needed inspiration from his threads and posts and over the last year it was a pleasure to follow the work of one of the few people here who actually did build things. Whenever a group like this loses someone enthusiastic and skilled, we all lose.
John P 04-21-2009, 04:00 PM Sometimes when people announce things like that in public, they are reaching for others.
Hey, man, I don't any of you guys reaching for me in public!
starmanmm 04-21-2009, 04:27 PM Well, if he wants to bow out... maybe it is more to take a break from the BS, if that is the issue.
I would hope you would pop back.
Like life, BB change... so don't be a stranger. Look back on us from time to time ductapeforever.
Don't know what happen, but I appreciated your participation on this site. :wave:
bert model maker 04-21-2009, 05:00 PM The Idea of the lounge forum sounds good to me too.
Seaview 04-21-2009, 05:15 PM feh! I guess I'm like a genius or somethin'. :hat:
BTW, that music was quite appropriate for the subject matter, and the drum beat very nicely matched the screen action.
swhite228 04-21-2009, 05:38 PM [QUOTE=Stuntman;2798467]
If we as adults can't show restraint, imagine how our children will turn out...
QUOTE]
I've worked at multiple schools and I fear I know the answer! FYI...these are the kids who will be the ones deciding on when or if to pull our plug.:(
teslabe 04-21-2009, 06:18 PM Here I was at 17, just finished basic training, and on my way to Viet Nam.
so yes, I do love this country and know the value of it's people.
http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp21/startrekstuntman/DonRickles-1.jpg
101st Airborne division, Ft. Campbell KY.
"All THE WAY"
http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp21/startrekstuntman/eaglepatch.jpg
Air Force here, 1974-1978.... The best thing I ever did......:thumbsup:
gojira61 04-21-2009, 07:10 PM and then there is the sad pics......
I took this picture of Jonathan Harris, Dr. Smith, signing my first season laser pistiol and it wasn't too long before he left us.
http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp21/startrekstuntman/jh2.jpg
Well there's a blast from the past...The Icons Showroom.
Yes, it's sad that Jonathan Harris is gone, a true gentleman.
Carson Dyle 04-21-2009, 07:12 PM I feel that my interests,and talents will be better served elsewhere.
Judging from the direction this forum has taken lately, I’m afraid you’re probably right.
If we as adults can't show restraint, imagine how our children will turn out...
“Restraint” doesn’t appear to be part of your collection.
Seriously Stunts, if this keeps up you and yourself are going to need to get a room.
Speaking on behalf of the self-respecting adults in the audience (I know you’re out there, guys), this relentless campaign of self-indulgent, self-congratulatory self-promotion is bordering on the pornographic. Have you no shame, man? You’re averaging 13 vanity-fueled posts a day, few of which have anything to do with the purpose of this website, i.e. model making. Are you really that desperate for attention? If so, I suggest you start your own website forum, where you can post pictures of yourself to your heart's content.
In the meantime, give the personal PR campaign a rest. Moebius didn’t start this forum so visitors could watch you worship at the altar of yourself. You’re a guest here for God's sake. If you want to be an exhibitionist try exhibiting more styrene and less bull****.
Trekkriffic 04-21-2009, 07:16 PM Man...this forum is looking more like the Gladiator section at RI every day.
Steve CultTVman Iverson 04-21-2009, 07:29 PM Thank you Rob!
toysoldierman20 04-21-2009, 07:36 PM Cann't we all just try to get along? I would hate to see such a great model site go by the wayside because of a few ego's!
If you don't care for a particular post then by pass it! No one is forced to read or look at anything here that they don't want to.
More model talk and less insults should be the new order of the day!
Where is the moderators while all this is going on?Time to step up and make some decisions as to what direction this site needs to take:thumbsup::wave:
Scheisseler 04-21-2009, 07:40 PM Stuntman - I have to agree with Rob above. I don't post here often enough to get worked up about anything (or at least I don't stay worked up very long) -- but just the way that Duct's farewell thread here somehow morphed into your personal campaign to become a moderator is, I think, pretty telling in itself. Your professional accomplishments are impressive and prideworthy, but dude -- get a blog.
david merriman 04-21-2009, 07:40 PM Thank you, Rob. Well done. And thanks for using the sharp knife.
David,
Seaview 04-21-2009, 07:57 PM All the more reason HobbyTalk should have a "lounge" section, like many other message boards.
If you want to read or write anything that's not strictly topical, that's the area to go. If you do NOT want to read anything that's not topical, that would be the area to avoid.
I rest my case.
bert model maker 04-21-2009, 08:02 PM Teslabe & Stuntman & those here that served our Country, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
Carson Dyle 04-21-2009, 08:09 PM No one is forced to read or look at anything here that they don't want to.
How I wish that were the case, but the last few days it's gotten so I can't open a thread without coming face to face with yet another shot of Mr. Pisani with his arm around some ashen-faced B-list celeb.
Enough is enough. I'm honestly not looking to incite a flame war, and I have nothing against Mr. Pisani personally. I just don't think he has the right to turn the Moebius Forum into his own personal peep show. It's rude to the visitors, it's disrespectful to the hosts, and, whether he knows it or not, it's humiliating to the poster.
"Restraint" indeed.
:rolleyes:
CARSON and CULT, why the venom??:? This thread was started because duct was leaving due to Cults(non moebius) negative thread last night. Stuntmans only crime is his enthusiasm. Why all the negativity????? Hes not making non moebius threads any longer. He did not start this one. BIG deal hes putting some personal pictures in this thread to lighten the mood up. As mentioned above dont come into the thread if it bothers you.
If people want to get technical maybe the Moebius Fans PICTURE THREAD should go. Most of the people there are not discussing Moebius models but rather themselves. That fun thread that it is maybe it SHOULDNT be there as well. Its masked as a moebius thread but we all know most people that post in there have a picture of themselves doing NON MOEBIUS things and are discussing NON MOEBIUS stuff. Plus many post all over the hobbytalk forums so they are not 100% moebius. :lol::lol:Just a thought.
starseeker 04-21-2009, 08:16 PM I suggest you start your own website forum, where you can post pictures of yourself to your heart's content.
Seconded. Well, seventhed.
Auroranut 04-21-2009, 08:19 PM If we as adults can't show restraint, imagine how our children will turn out...
Stuntman, please refer to your post (#84) on your "In Response" thread....
Chris.
Carson Dyle 04-21-2009, 08:26 PM Deleted due to double post.
Also look at #26, 79 and 82 in that thread.(The result which was#84) Plus Cults thread (which was complety erased last night)that was not kind but said some unkind things.Again instead of you guys Chastising a new poster tell him in civil terms what hes doing wrong in instead of trying to be mini-moderators and being unkind. We are supposed to be here to help each other.
teslabe 04-21-2009, 08:29 PM Teslabe & Stuntman & those here that served our Country, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
Thank you very much model maker.....:wave: It was and still is my honor.....:thumbsup: I have work for over 30 years in the defense
industry. I've always been very proud of my country and know we
will get things in order soon.....:thumbsup:
GKvfx 04-21-2009, 08:29 PM ...........If people want to get technical maybe the Moebius Fans PICTURE THREAD should go. Most of the people there are not discussing Moebius models but rather themselves. .........
Actually, that would have been the most appropriate place for Stuntman to post. But instead, there are all sorts of threads that he started within the "Moebius Models" section that have nothing whatsoever to do about the assembling, or tips on how to assemble, Moebius models. That's what I, as a satisfied customer of Moebius and HobbyTalk, come here for. Though I find aspects of his posts interesting, the sheer number of posts that Stuntman has made in the past few days, makes it cumbersome to navigate and get any real info.
My 2 cents....
Gene
Carson Dyle 04-21-2009, 08:32 PM CARSON and CULT, why the venom?
No venom. Just a call for a little self-control.
Stuntmans only crime is his enthusiasm.
I have no problem with enthusiasm. Unfortunately Stunts is a tad overly enthused about himself, and this is not the place to repeatedly indulge in that particular, ah, pleasure.
Actually, that would have been the most appropriate place for Stuntman to post. But instead, there are all sorts of threads that he started within the "Moebius Models" section that have nothing whatsoever to do about the assembling, or tips on how to assemble, Moebius models. That's what I, as a satisfied customer of Moebius and HobbyTalk, come here for. Though I find aspects of his posts interesting, the sheer number of posts that Stuntman has made in the past few days, makes it cumbersome to navigate and get any real info.
My 2 cents....
Gene
As I said above Stuntman has not started any more non moebius threads. They have all been moved or closed. He understands now. He was new to forums in general.I did not see any of the people who have a problem with him actually help him but chastise right off the bat. This is the only thread today that Stuntman has posted non moebius material.(which is pretty much a non moebius thread to start with. :lol: which he did NOT start) Again he just lightening the mood up.
Ductapeforever 04-21-2009, 08:38 PM I returned here to clean out my reference photos, and I see the war is still ging on. MY GOD, It's safer in the Gaza strip. Models people, the site is about models. How it turned into Vanity Fair is beyond me. My decision stands...
I returned here to clean out my reference photos, and I see the war is still ging on. MY GOD, It's safer in the Gaza strip. Models people, the site is about models. How it turned into Vanity Fair is beyond me. My decision stands...
The fight only continues in a thread you started Duct. People are wondering why you are leaving???They are discussing why??? You kinda unwilling added fuel to the fire.
Carson Dyle 04-21-2009, 08:40 PM you have to be the biggest hypocrite I have ever met in my life!
Dude, wise up. I was attempting to take a good-natured poke at you with the VanPattan thing. I'd hope you'd take the hint that some of us don't appreciate the shameless Photo-Op grandstanding. Obviously you were too thrilled being noticed to notice.
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