i was just checking out the pics of the new 70 chevy pickup casting and the box of the truck seems to sag in the rear instead of flowing even with the body as it should. perhaps it is just the pic but this one appears to sag just like the dodge trucks greenlight has released. it just seems odd that all of their trucks seem to have the same problem.:confused:
http://www.greenlighttoys.com/assets/images/products/21665-1970_Chevy_C-10_Picku1.jpg

if you ask me, greenlight has the right idea, they just can't execute. The come up with great castings, and either mess them up, put too big of tires so they don't roll, make them too large or just never produce them. I haven't even had an opportunity to buy some greenlights in the store in about 6 months! How do they expect to grow or make any money? They will fail. Pray M2 and Shelby collectibles can keep it together because they are making the best diecast at the best prices right now. Sorry Greenlight, unless you get your act together, youve lost me as a customer.

JL had the same issue with the '65 Chevy pick up.
Those '70 trucks will probably be popular.

There is nothing that bugs me more than seeing the box of an
otherwise nicely done pickup truck not lining up with the cab.
(as the above picture example shows)

Mattel had the same problem with a lot of the pickups in the
100% line.

Wish someone could explain it to me - maybe there is a good reason, I dunno. :(

Wow, that thing is awesome!
It sags slightly, but only slightly.
It's kinda in your face in pics, but I don't think you'll even really see it so bad displayed.
The problem looks less so than any previous GLs or JLs.
Let's congratulate Greenlight for nice casting overall and be glad someone is finally doing a good '67-72 era icon of the asphalt!

(of course it's gonna sag when you frieght it...it ain't no International Harvester! :))

I'd be happier with one solid casting with nothing more than the opening hood. If you try to make it too complicated and have this as a result then you're just damaging the potential right out of the gate. But then I suppose there'd be some sort of sag in the rear because the chassis mounting points and the axles are making it look loaded or something....

I think this truck looks absolutely amazing other than the bed issue. I hope it looks a little different if and when I do see one.:thumbsup:

When I asked this question prior to the release of the BB dodge truck I was told by GL admin that the problem would be fixed before release and not to worry. Well, needless to say the problem remains. Maybe they'll straighten it up eventually but how many sales will be lost if it's not fixed now. stance plays a big part in the overall appearance af a scale vehicle. For example the stance of a HW 67 Camaro looks nice and muscular as it should but look at the Cuda that was the silver hunt casting, looks like a tijuana lowrider. I am Cuda NUT but I bet I own more HW 67 Camaros than I do HW Cudas, what does that tell you? Fix it GL! The casting is BEAUTIFUL but the bed sags, it's easy to spot with the 2 tone paint exaggerating it. On another note after months of complaining GL finally fixed the stance on the 68-9 GTX/RR casting, lowering the front end just a smidge, made a big difference. Hopefully we are heard sooner than later.:wave:

They make the box so it is interchangable but the bracket is too level and pulls the front of the box casting up. Nothing some QC work and some attention can't correct. Am surprised that they have not, given this was the problem with the Dodge as well.

if you ask me, greenlight has the right idea, they just can't execute. The come up with great castings, and either mess them up, put too big of tires so they don't roll, make them too large or just never produce them. I haven't even had an opportunity to buy some greenlights in the store in about 6 months! How do they expect to grow or make any money? They will fail. Pray M2 and Shelby collectibles can keep it together because they are making the best diecast at the best prices right now. Sorry Greenlight, unless you get your act together, youve lost me as a customer.

M2's QC is way worse then GL's IMO. I've seen so many M2 cars hanging on the pegs with loose parts, sagging rears, flattened tires (overtightened screws, I know) and horrible gaps in the doors and hoods. In the current Hemmings Muscle Machines magazine, they did a review of the M2 1/24 scale Bel Air and the biggest complaint was poor quality control. They raved about the details on the car but when it was taken out of the package, two parts fell off. They tried to replace one of the loose pieces and in doing so, the bumper fell off the car. M2 has a long way to go to get thier QC in order.

When I asked this question prior to the release of the BB dodge truck I was told by GL admin that the problem would be fixed before release and not to worry. Well, needless to say the problem remains. Maybe they'll straighten it up eventually but how many sales will be lost if it's not fixed now. stance plays a big part in the overall appearance af a scale vehicle. For example the stance of a HW 67 Camaro looks nice and muscular as it should but look at the Cuda that was the silver hunt casting, looks like a tijuana lowrider. I am Cuda NUT but I bet I own more HW 67 Camaros than I do HW Cudas, what does that tell you? Fix it GL! The casting is BEAUTIFUL but the bed sags, it's easy to spot with the 2 tone paint exaggerating it. On another note after months of complaining GL finally fixed the stance on the 68-9 GTX/RR casting, lowering the front end just a smidge, made a big difference. Hopefully we are heard sooner than later.:wave:

Hello everyone,

I wanted to address this issue and elaborate a little more. Rattlehed is right, I did comment that we were working on making the beds more level on the Black Bandit truck. And unfortunately the problem popped up again on some of the trucks. I personally feel responsible for this situation and was very thorough in my discussions about these points with the factory.

The fact is, we are working on all our QC issues as many of you point out. We hate, and I mean hate, having to deal with these. I wish all of our items were flawless but this isn't always realistic. What we have to do is focus on getting things as smooth as possible to help eliminate needless problems.

I read Hobbytalk as well as several other forums when I can. We take your comments very seriously. In a perfect world I could fix every single one of them. But believe me this isn't for lack of trying, effort or attention. This isn't a cheap, easy or simple operation of making these collectibles half a world away. Retailers, licensors, rising labor costs, shipping - they all affect the end product in massive ways. We do our best with our staff and in this economy which is greatly affecting all facets of manufacturing (not just the 1:1 cars!).

As always, thank you for all your comments both good and bad. And we do read them, really. The first comment two of us made about the truck was the bed so we are working on this right now. Thanks for the kind (and some not so kind) words,

- Matt

word:dude:

Matt from Greenlight, can I ask a few questions? 1) Do you have any plans to fix the tire size issue? It seems like half of the greenlights I have open for my son to play with don't roll very well at all. 2) Is there a reason for the 4-6 month hiatus from November/December through april/may? It seems like there has only been one or two releases in the last six months? I just wish you guys offered more products and more often(and at more places). 3) How come the changes to BJ AB 8? I have been waiting on this 74-76 firebird for what seems like an eternity since I first heard about it. Are there production issues or something?

The one thing I can say is that whoever is choosing what the new castings are going to be, is getting it right 100%. You are definitely listening to what we want.

M2's QC is way worse then GL's IMO. I've seen so many M2 cars hanging on the pegs with loose parts, sagging rears, flattened tires (overtightened screws, I know) and horrible gaps in the doors and hoods. In the current Hemmings Muscle Machines magazine, they did a review of the M2 1/24 scale Bel Air and the biggest complaint was poor quality control. They raved about the details on the car but when it was taken out of the package, two parts fell off. They tried to replace one of the loose pieces and in doing so, the bumper fell off the car. M2 has a long way to go to get thier QC in order.

You could be right, I only have 10-15 M2's. So far they have all been perfect, but that is a very small percentage. I do like the detail on them though. VERY realistic. I do have a few Shelby Mustangs where the door fit is off a smidge, but that is the price you pay for opening doors, which I consider a huge plus. If you compare the Shelby Mustangs, to the Greenlight Mustangs its a no brainer. Shelby's piece is spot on flawless at a cheaper price. However, they only make mustangs so they should be the best of the best.

I guess I am looking for Shelby Collectibles detail, Hot wheels Production Rates, Greenlight Model selection, in the old Johnny Lightning cardboard packaging at the Matchbox price!

I guess I am looking for Shelby Collectibles detail, Hot wheels Production Rates, Greenlight Model selection, in the old Johnny Lightning cardboard packaging at the Matchbox price!

Aren't we all my friend, aren't we all! :thumbsup:

Aren't we all my friend, aren't we all! :thumbsup:

:lol: True story! If only it were possible.

GL thanks for stopping by HT to check on ideas and feedback. I've stayed away from the whole truck discussion since I don't have any of GL's in my collection. If only they had made the number 1 pickup for how many decades?.. :rolleyes: :wave:

Bluehemi, I believe GL listens intently to direct input from the boards, especially their own. I was posting at UTH on the first day they were open. A thread was posted by a member asking what cars other members would like to see in the GL lineup. That thread stayed near the top for a long time. There were 2 castings I suggested that got a lot of positive response from other members. One of those is now a GL staple, and a car no one else had done proper justice to, the 1969 GTX. Not to mention not one but two members with GTX in their screen name may have lit the fuse. I also suggested a 1976 Trans Am, that too got a lot of positive response. I am sure that it WILL happen one day soon. It is a good idea. Also in that thread was a positive response from members regarding GL making trucks, now they are starting to roll them out, and of all the trucks the Dodges have traditionally been the most neglected so naturally the Dodge was first.
The selection of killer Mopars is my favorite thing about GL because the castings cannot be beat for quality or accuracy. But the greatest thing about GL is that they listen to us old hardcore codgers when all of the other big players ignore our ideas. I think they realize that our collective(no pun intended)experience outweighs theirs when it comes to collectible diecast. Finally, there is a company that owns up to it's own shortcomings(try to get that from mattel or learning curve, yea, right)and uses that information to improve their product. Their also seems to be a pattern over the few brief years of GL existence of striving to make cars that have been underdone or never done proper. Case in point, the Javelin AMX is coming! I think that due to all of the pluses listed, GL will be a major player for years to come as long as they continue to respond to US. Thanks Greenlight.

Matt from Greenlight, can I ask a few questions? 1) Do you have any plans to fix the tire size issue? It seems like half of the greenlights I have open for my son to play with don't roll very well at all. 2) Is there a reason for the 4-6 month hiatus from November/December through april/may? It seems like there has only been one or two releases in the last six months? I just wish you guys offered more products and more often(and at more places). 3) How come the changes to BJ AB 8? I have been waiting on this 74-76 firebird for what seems like an eternity since I first heard about it. Are there production issues or something?

The one thing I can say is that whoever is choosing what the new castings are going to be, is getting it right 100%. You are definitely listening to what we want.

Hello Bluehemi818,

I will do my best here to answer your questions.

1) Do we have plans to fix the tire size? - Yes, if you look at any of our recent '67 Mustang releases you will probably notice a Ford styled steel wheel. This is an example of the newer sizes of tires and wheels in development. Also check the wheels on the '67 GTO in Up in Flames. Over the next few series you should see one of the most common wheels (Magnum 500 style) showing up in this smaller diameter and width. This gives our castings a great overall stance so watch for it. Long story short, yes we are working on this but it takes time and there isn't an unlimited wheel and tire budget, if we all we did was update wheels and tires there wouldn't be any new castings.

2) Well, regarding the hiatus, this isn't exactly true. MCG 9 came out in late January/February at most stores. And County Roads 2 will be out later this month. But yes, I would love to release things more often. In a perfect world we would have 2 releases a month. And we are always working on our store/retail placement so stay patient.

3) Regarding the lineup changes to AB8, that lineup was set internally quite some time ago. As to why the cars you may want are not in the set, they were not ready. We don't want to release something that isn't done well or have the proper look and I am sure you and fellow hobbytalk members would not appreciate that either. When we finish and approve something, that is our brand name on the line. Releasing something just to have it done when it isn't right just doesn't fit our policy and desire to have correctly proportioned, well done castings.

I hope this covers things,

- Matt

Love it. Thanks for the response. If you really want to smooth things over with me you can send me a green machine of the 76 trans am as soon as its ready!:thumbsup:

Sorry for being so critical, but I genuinely appreciate how you guys really listen to us die hard collectors and actually do something about it.

Sorry, silly question. Is the bed on this and the Dodge truck a separate part from the cab?

I got it! Put a wooden stake bed on it!

Sorry, silly question. Is the bed on this and the Dodge truck a separate part from the cab?

yes, and so are some jl.

I have a few GL cars. Just got a truck the other day. I never noticed the flaw. I guess I should take another look. It is nice to have the GL guy post on this board. Thanks Matt for the info.

Any chance Matt that GL will do a full on, bad-ass 77 Z28?

I have been waiting a long time for this Camaro generation...77-81. Please, please, please, please.

Oh....and wouldn't a 94-96 Impalla SS look so good next to the 03-04 Maurader?

Good Job Matt and Greenlight.

Jeff

I have a few GL cars. Just got a truck the other day. I never noticed the flaw. I guess I should take another look. It is nice to have the GL guy post on this board. Thanks Matt for the info.

Any chance Matt that GL will do a full on, bad-ass 77 Z28?

DRDirtZ28 and Jeff,

We currently are developing the '74-'76 Firebird but we have no plans for a '77-81 Camaro. This isn't to say we will never do the car but there isn't one in our immediate future.

And Jeff - yes the Marauder often seems to be compared most to the '94-96 Impala SS doesn't it? We don't have that car on the immediate plans either but I know Revell made a very nice 1:64th model at one point.

Thanks,

- Matt

Great replies Matt, thank you. If I remember correctly the pic of the truck on page one of this thread was of a sample truck and not the final production piece. The problem may be adjusted before it hits the stores in the approved for retail version. Either way, this truck is going to look amazing and I doubt it will hang long on any peg - sagging bed or not -, even the regular version.

I'm going to chime in here and say that I am loving my copy of this truck!
http://glcollector.com/2008/crs1032B.jpg
courtesy glcollector.com

It sits just right and the detail is spot on! Looking forward to the next release of this beauty!:thumbsup:

40+ yr old trucks, worn out shocks, they sag.. :)

matt, thanks for the info. i just feel that this is something that should have never been overlooked before they hit production or certainly addressed before they were packaged and sent out to the consumer on the first round let alone on another new casting. one release and casting is bad enough but multiple castings and releases??? perhaps i jumped the gun by judging the final run by the sample pic but to see the same issue in the sample pic of yet another truck casting tells me the issue was overlooked once again.

i know it is a sample but i don't know why you would show a pic of the new chevy casting without making sure that it doesn't have the obvious issue that has been complained about in the past with another casting??? we have been waiting for a very long time to see some sample pics of the 74-76 firebird casting which i believe was announced long before the new chevy truck. if you don't mind posting samples of the chevy before some obvious issues are addressed then can't you feed us some hope by posting a pic of the 74-76 firebird casting?? :)

i know it isn't a perfect world and mistakes do happen but in this day and age i would hope that something on this level wouldn't happen multiple times over by the same company. i have to admit that it is a bit of a let down seeing these issues in a final run after reading what you stated in a post above:

3) Regarding the lineup changes to AB8, that lineup was set internally quite some time ago. As to why the cars you may want are not in the set, they were not ready. We don't want to release something that isn't done well or have the proper look and I am sure you and fellow hobbytalk members would not appreciate that either. When we finish and approve something, that is our brand name on the line. and desire to have correctly proportioned, well done castings.
- Matt

please understand that i'm not out to bash you or the greenlight brand. i am very pleased with a lot of the product you have released thus far. i'm just expressing my disappointment with the stuff i am unhappy about. i hope the issues can and are being addressed before this one is released. i hope you could understand where i am coming from by seeing a past issue show up on a pic of a new casting for a future release??

thanks for taking the time to not only come here and read our views but taking the time to reply to them too.:thumbsup: